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Ten Reasons It's A Terrible Time To Buy An Expensive House

By Patrick   2015 Jul 11, 12:58pm   705,569 views   324 comments   watch (33)   quote      

  1. Because house prices in expensive areas still dangerously high compared to incomes and rents. Banks say a safe mortgage is a maximum of 3 times the buyer's annual income with a 20% downpayment. Landlords say a safe price is set by the rental market; annual rent should be at least 9% of the purchase price, or else the price is just too high. Yet in affluent areas, both those safety rules are still being violated. Buyers are still borrowing 6 times their income with tiny downpayments, and gross rents are still only 3% of purchase price. Renting is a cash business that proves what people can really pay based on their salary, not how much they can borrow. Salaries and rents prove that affluent neighborhoods are still in a huge housing bubble, and that bubble seems to be getting more dangerous by the day.
  2. On the other hand, in some poor neighborhoods, prices are now so low that gross rents may exceed 10% of price. Housing is a bargain for buyers there. Prices there could still fall yet more if unemployment rises or interest rates go up, but those neighborhoods have no bubble anymore.

  3. Because it's usually still much cheaper to rent than to own the same size and quality house, in the same school district. In rich neighborhoods, annual rents are typically only 3% of purchase price while mortgage rates are 4% with fees, so it costs more to borrow the money as it does to borrow the house. Renters win and owners lose! Worse, total owner costs including taxes, maintenance, and insurance come to about 8% of purchase price, which is more than twice the cost of renting and wipes out any income tax benefit.

    The only true sign of a bottom is a price low enough so that you could rent out the house and make a profit. Then you'll know it's pretty safe to buy for yourself because then rent could cover the mortgage and ownership expenses if necessary, eliminating most of your risk. The basic buying safety rule is to divide annual rent by the purchase price for the house:

    annual rent / purchase price = 3% means do not buy, prices are too high

    annual rent / purchase price = 6% means borderline

    annual rent / purchase price = 9% means ok to buy, prices are reasonable

    So for example, it's borderline to pay $200,000 for a house that would cost you $1,000 per month to rent. That's $12,000 per year in rent. If you buy it with a 6% mortgage, that's $12,000 per year in interest instead, so it works out about the same. Owners can pay interest with pre-tax money, but that benefit gets wiped out by the eternal debts of repairs and property tax, equalizing things. It is foolish to pay $400,000 for that same house, because renting it would cost only half as much per year, and renters are completely safe from falling housing prices. Subtract HOA from rent before doing the calculation for condos.

    Although there is no way to be sure that rents won't fall, comparing the local employment rate (demand) to the current local supply of available homes for rent or sale (supply) should help you figure out whether a big fall in rents could happen. Checking these factors minimizizes your risk.

  4. Because it's a terrible time to buy when interest rates are low, like now. House prices rose as interest rates fell, and house prices will fall if interest rates rise without a strong increase in jobs, because a fixed monthly payment covers a smaller mortgage at a higher interest rate. Since interest rates have nowhere to go but up, prices have nowhere to go but down. When housing falls, you lose your equity, but not your debt.

    The way to win the game is to have cash on hand to buy outright at a low price when others cannot borrow very much because of high interest rates. Then you get a low price, and you get capital appreciation caused by future interest rate declines. To buy an expensive house at a time of low interest rates and high prices like now is a mistake.

    It is far better to pay a low price with a high interest rate than a high price with a low interest rate, even if the mortgage payment is the same either way.

    • A low price lets you pay it all off instead of being a debt-slave for the rest of your life.
    • As interest rates fall, real estate prices generally rise.
    • Your property taxes will be lower with a low purchase price.
    • Paying a high price now may trap you "under water", meaning you'll have a mortgage debt larger than the value of the house. Then you will not be able to refinance because then you'll have no equity, and will not be able to sell without a loss. Even if you get a long-term fixed rate mortgage, when rates inevitably go up the value of your property will go down. Paying a low price minimizes your damage.
    • You can refinance when you buy at a higher interest rate and rates fall, but current buyers will never be able to refinance for a lower interest rate in the future. Rates are already as low as they can go.
  5. Because buyers already borrowed too much money and cannot pay it back. They spent it on houses that are now worth less than the loans. This means most banks are still actually bankrupt. But since the banks have friends in Washington, they get special treatment that you do not. The Federal Reserve prints up bales of new money to buy worthless mortgages from irresponsible banks, slowing down the buyer-friendly deflation in housing prices and socializing bank losses.

    The Fed exists to protect big banks from the free market, at your expense. Banks get to keep any profits they make, but bank losses just get passed on to you as extra cost added on to the price of a house, when the Fed prints up money and buys their bad mortgages. If the Fed did not prevent the free market from working, you would be able to buy a house much more cheaply.

    As if that were not enough corruption, Congress authorized vast amounts of TARP bailout cash taken from taxpayers to be loaned directly to the worst-run banks, those that already gambled on mortgages and lost. The Fed and Congress are letting the banks "extend and pretend" that their mortgage loans will get
    paid back.

    And of course the banks can simply sell millions of bad loans to Fannie and Freddie at full price, putting taxpayers on the hook for the banks' gambling losses. Heads they win, tails you lose.

    It is necessary that YOU be forced deeply into debt, and therefore forced into slavery, for the banks to make a profit. If you pay a low price for a house and manage to avoid debt, the banks lose control over you. Unacceptable to them. It's all a filthy battle for control over your labor.

    This is why you will never hear the president or anyone else in power say that we need lower house prices. They always talk about "affordability" but what they always mean is debt-slavery.

  6. Because buyers used too much leverage. Leverage means using debt to amplify gain. Most people forget that debt amplifies losses as well. If a buyer puts 10% down and the house goes down 10%, he has lost 100% of his money on paper. If he has to sell due to job loss or a mortgage rate adjustment, he lost 100% in the real world.

    The simple fact is that the renter - if willing and able to save his money - can buy a house outright in half the time that a conventional buyer can pay off a mortgage. Interest generally accounts for more than half of the cost of a house. The saver/renter not only pays no interest, he also gets interest on his savings, even if just a little. Leveraged housing appreciation, usually presented as the "secret" to wealth, cannot be counted on, and can just as easily work against the buyer. In fact, that leverage is the danger that got current buyers into trouble.

    The higher-end housing market is now set up for a huge crash in prices, since there is no more fake paper equity from the sale of a previously overvalued property and because the market for securitized jumbo loans is dead. Without that fake equity, most people don't have the money needed for a down payment on an expensive house. It takes a very long time indeed to save up for a 20% downpayment when you're still making mortgage payments on an underwater house.

    It's worse than that. House prices do not even have to fall to cause big losses. The cost of selling a house is kept unfairly high because of the Realtor® lobby's corruption of US legislators. On a $300,000 house, 6% is $18,000 lost even if housing prices just stay flat. So a 4% decline in housing prices bankrupts all those with 10% equity or less.

  7. Because the housing bubble was not driven by supply and demand. There is huge supply because of overbuilding, and there is less demand now that the baby boomers are retiring and selling. Prices in the housing market, even now, are entirely a function of how much the banks are willing and able to lend. Most people will borrow as much as they possibly can, amounts that are completely disconnected from their salaries or from the rental value of the property. Banks have been willing to accomodate crazy borrowers because banker control of the US government means that banks do not yet have to acknowledge their losses, or can push losses onto taxpayers through government housing agencies like the FHA.
  8. Because there is still a massive backlog of latent foreclosures. Millions of owners stopped paying their mortgages, and the banks are still not forclosing on all of them, letting the owner live in the house for free. If a bank forecloses and takes possession of a house, that means the bank is responsible for property taxes and maintenance. Banks don't like those costs. If a bank then sells the foreclosure at current prices, the bank has to admit a loss on the loan. Banks like that cost even less. So there is a tsunami of foreclosures on the way that the banks are ignoring, for now. To prevent a justified foreclosure is also to prevent a deserving family from buying that house at a low price. Right now, those foreclosures will wash over the landscape, decimating prices, and benefitting millions of families which will be able to buy a house without a suicidal level of debt, and maybe without any debt at all!
  9. Because first-time buyers have all been ruthlessly exploited and the supply of new victims is very low.
    From The Herald:
    "We were all corrupted by the housing boom, to some extent. People talked endlessly about how their houses were earning more than they did, never asking where all this free money was coming from. Well the truth is that it was being stolen from the next generation. Houses price increases don't produce wealth, they merely transfer it from the young to the old - from the coming generation of families who have to burden themselves with colossal debts if they want to own, to the baby boomers who are about to retire and live on the cash they make when they downsize."

    House price inflation has been very unfair to new families, especially those with children. It is foolish for them to buy at current high prices, yet government leaders never talk about how lower house prices are good for American families, instead preferring to sacrifice the young and poor to benefit the old and rich, and to make sure bankers have plenty of debt to earn interest on. Your debt is their wealth. Every "affordability" program drives prices higher by pushing buyers deeper into debt. Increased debt is not affordability, it's just pushing the reckoning into the future. To really help Americans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the FHA should be completely eliminated. Even more important is eliminating the mortgage-interest deduction, which costs the government $400 billion per year in tax revenue. The mortgage interest deduction directly harms all buyers by keeping prices higher than they would otherwise be, costing buyers more in extra purchase cost than they save on taxes. The $8,000 buyer tax credit cost each buyer in Massachusetts an extra $39,000 in purchase price. Subsidies just make the subsidized item more expensive. Buyers should be rioting in the streets, demanding an end to all mortgage subsidies. Canada and Australia have no mortgage-interest deduction for owner-occupied housing. It can be done.

    The government pretends to be interested in affordable housing, but now that housing is becoming truly affordable via falling prices, they want to stop it? Their actions speak louder than their words.

  10. Because boomers are retiring. There are 70 million Americans born between 1945-1960. One-third have zero retirement savings. The oldest are 66. The only money they have is equity in a house, so they must sell. This will add yet another flood of houses to the market, driving prices down even more.
  11. Because there is a huge glut of empty new houses. Builders are being forced to drop prices even faster than owners, because builders must sell to keep their business going. They need the money now. Builders have huge excess inventory that they cannot sell at current prices, and more houses are completed each day, making the housing slump worse.

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1   someone else   2015 Jul 11, 1:29pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

The post that made this site famous is now a regular forum post, not a separate html page.

2   HEY YOU   2015 Jul 11, 10:04pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Those that can't afford an expensive house could always overpay for a POS & think they have joined the elite snobs.

3   LikeAMachine   2015 Jul 14, 12:09pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

This is probably the best article I've ever read on this topic. Thanks

4   KgK one   2015 Jul 14, 1:48pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Bought triplex each with 2 br/1 bath / kit/liv. 2400 sq ft for 220,000. rent is 2700 /month. Since its 30 yrs old, expecting some repairs. Good deal, any suggestion on good site for landlord. ? Mentally I feel elite now that I am land lord LOL. Eventhought i still have less $$ for now.

5   K2   2015 Jul 15, 10:35pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Excellent point about how you can lose your down payment when there is a deline in housing prices. Good information. I saved this one to refer back to again. Some articles are useless. Lots of useful information.

6   Buster69   2015 Jul 23, 12:33am     ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike   quote    

I think people just need to learn to be patient and watch these overpriced homes loose their equity go down the toilet. People are selling their home at overpriced value so they can get out of their underwater mortgage. And basically they need to find someone else to take there place in order to get out. So, by you paying that much overpriced just because you think houses will never go down again, well guest what! You are the sucker for paying that much for a house. Just save your money and buy when you are comfortable with you monthly payment. Stop buying overpriced home that will force you to eat left over cause you could barely afford your mortgage.

7   Confused99   2015 Jul 24, 4:57am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

I need help. I believe what you say and feel this way but everyone is telling me to buy. Here's the thing though, I will never be able to save enough cash to buy a decent home all cash. I'm okay with coming out even or even moderate risk I just don't want to be a complete wash-over. Here's the numbers $430,000 house, $3.5% (15,000) about $2800 a month but that's with property taxes and FHA loan ins so maybe I'm only paying in less to the home. What would have to be my annual income to afford this?

8   marco   2015 Jul 24, 5:36am     ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Do housing prices go down when no water comes out of the taps ?

9   zzyzzx   2015 Jul 24, 6:44am     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

marco says

Do housing prices go down when no water comes out of the taps ?

They go down when there are riots in your city. Yes I do live in Baltimore.

10   Strategist   2015 Jul 24, 6:50am     ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

zzyzzx says

marco says

Do housing prices go down when no water comes out of the taps ?

They go down when there are riots in your city. Yes I do live in Baltimore.

If they burnt down more homes, there would be a shortage, and prices would go up.
You guys just don't understand the benefits of rioting.

11   Strategist   2015 Jul 24, 7:21am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Call it Crazy says

If they burnt down more homes, there would be a shortage, and prices would go up.


You guys just don't understand the benefits of rioting.

Exactly, just look at Detroit... It's a beaming light of housing capitalism!!!

Unions, Call Crazy, unions. Where you have unions, you don't need rioters.

12   just any guy   2015 Jul 24, 7:23am     ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

marco says

Do housing prices go down when no water comes out of the taps ?

Housing goes down when people are having anal sex. I've seen it happen in my neighborhood.

13   zzyzzx   2015 Jul 24, 10:58am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Strategist says

If they burnt down more homes, there would be a shortage, and prices would go up.

You guys just don't understand the benefits of rioting.

They were more interested in stealing drugs and toilet paper.

14   Vicente   2015 Jul 24, 11:02am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

It's crazy here in Davis right now.

DUMPS selling for north of $500K because some friend heard they were selling it, never even reaching the listings.

A Chinese friend told me, that 50% of the sales are to Chinese parents who are willing to pay cash. They buy the house, their kids lives in it and goes to school, renting out the other rooms. When the kid graduates, they sell or keep running it as remote slumlords I guess.

Maddening as we are looking for a house. We see a nice house, a few days later it's gone.

15   jvolstad   2015 Jul 24, 12:32pm     ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

But you are not a "Real Estate Professional." Talk to a Realtor. I'm sure the Realtor will tell you the truth.

16   ChapulinColorado   2015 Jul 24, 8:45pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Finally the reason why l liked this site to begin with, housing.

17   mell   2015 Jul 24, 9:08pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Vicente says

It's crazy here in Davis right now.

DUMPS selling for north of $500K because some friend heard they wermay raise re selling it, never even reaching the listings.

A Chinese friend told me, that 50% of the sales are to Chinese parents who are willing to pay cash. They buy the house, their kids lives in it and goes to school, renting out the other rooms. When the kid graduates, they sell or keep running it as remote slumlords I guess.

Maddening as we are looking for a house. We see a nice house, a few days later it's gone.

Housing looks pretty toppy here, the short ETFs are showing a 6-month uptrend. Fed may finally raise rates and price acceleration is slowing significantly. If the market does not well the next months, prices may stagnate or reverse. Especially in a market where stocks in general retreat but the market is sustained by a few big outliers.

18   jingz317   2015 Jul 26, 10:04am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

interest rate is high at inflation and housing price is high. interest rate is low at deflation and housing price is low. so her point 3 is wrong.

19   AG   2015 Jul 27, 5:59am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

why are you mixing housing with xx ? we can't recommend your site if we can't be sure of the topic.

20   novaZ06   2015 Aug 7, 11:59am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Most insightful and accurate analysis on this topic I have seen. Should be required reading.

21   Mels138   2015 Aug 10, 10:30am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Great article!

22   iwog   2015 Aug 10, 3:15pm     ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote    

That's the true Pat.net spirit!!!

This is the time when all the bears should start to come out of the woodwork, all the home ownership calculations should be paraded around, and all the doomsayers should be having their field day. Maybe a year or two left until we reach the top, but time to start ramping it up!

23   iwog   2015 Aug 10, 3:16pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (3)   quote    

Vicente says

Maddening as we are looking for a house. We see a nice house, a few days later it's gone.

In Davis? If I was in your position, I'd rent for now and wait until 2019-2020 to buy. Otherwise I'd aim for Dixon or somewhere away from the UC campus.

24   Bellingham Bill   2015 Aug 10, 7:53pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

mid-late 70s boom, early 80s crash (Volcker recession)
mid-late 80s boom, early 90s crash (S&L crisis)
late 90s boom, early 00s crash (dotcom / Worldcom / Enron / NASDAQ madness)
mid-late 00s boom, late 00s crash (systematic mortgage fraud bubble bust)

early-mid 10s boom, late 10s crash??

dunno man. You say the fed did nothing 2009-2011, and 2013-2014, but I think it demonstrated that it indeed had a money gun and was willing to use it.

the previous upstrokes had the seeds of their downfalls in them -- I understand the 1990s recession the least but it had to do with WW2 & cold war aerospace leaving LA, the oil patch collapsing due to oil price collapse, and a real estate bubble on the east coast, too

I don't actually see what's all that wrong -- "unsustainable" -- with the current economy.

shows that if this decade is like the 1990s, we've got another 10M jobs to gain.

Demographically, we're totally different compared to 2000.

The baby boom was age 36 to 54 that year, prime work years. 2020, they'll be age 56 to 74, edging off into retirement, opening up jobs for Gen X and promotions.

Plus as they start dying they'll be distributing their estates to Gen Y, and before they die they'll be spending their retirement savings.

Each year of the baby boomer cohort is 4M people! Health care demand alone is going to be colossal. Plus restaurants and hospitality since old people are tired of cooking.

shows the deficit coming down (this graph is adjusted to 2015 dollars) so that's not unsustainable

I don't pretend to understand the macro picture, trade with China or our deepeningly negative NIIP.

25   iwog   2015 Aug 10, 9:04pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Bellingham Bill says

I don't actually see what's all that wrong -- "unsustainable" -- with the current economy.

Bellingham Bill says

shows that if this decade is like the 1990s, we've got another 10M jobs to gain.

Demand side crisis. I think everyone knows average wages are falling although it's hard to measure with the top heavy becoming even more top heavy. The jobs aren't coming and technology is working to make most jobs obsolete. (computers put all paralegals out of business) People are scraping by and now we've got rents mopping up whatever excess is in the system. The idle cash owned by the rich has ensured much more efficiency in the real estate market so, as you so frequently point out, the economy is going to be a lot better at taking the last few dollars away.

All it needs is a trigger and then you've got the layoff/default/falling demand spiral which has no bottom now that the government is broken and the fed has reached 0%.

We're WAY past 1929 thanks to social safety nets, however that's not a good thing because the economy runs on disposable income and almost all of it is based in services unnecessary for human life.

Here's what I see on your graph. Keep in mind that all things being equal, this should be a low logarithmic increase, not an graph that appears to be on the brink of turning permanently negative:

26   iwog   2015 Aug 10, 9:06pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Bellingham Bill says

shows the deficit coming down (this graph is adjusted to 2015 dollars) so that's not unsustainable

I don't think deficits ever matter. Even if they did matter, there are plenty of nations that prove we could easily double or triple our debt without consequence. In fact considering how much our economy has relied on deficit spending, declining deficits are just another nail on the coffin.

27   someone else   2015 Aug 10, 9:19pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

I don't think deficits ever matter.

why don't deficits matter? you'd think that borrowing to spend has to catch up with you eventually.

28   iwog   2015 Aug 10, 9:43pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    


why don't deficits matter? you'd think that borrowing to spend has to catch up with you eventually.

Cept it never catches up. It has been 35 years since the deficit spending "revolution" and as I said, other nations have shown that we could double or triple our debt and still not worry about any economic catastrophe.

It's actually necessary redistribution. The rich rake in billions, loan it to the government, and it returns as wages, benefits, and contracts before the rich scoop it up again. Now if wealth disparity stops increasing, we'd need debt to stop increasing as well to maintain equilibrium, but I don't see that happening soon.

29   Bellingham Bill   2015 Aug 10, 10:40pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Federal interest payments (2015 dollars):

Interest payments as % GDP:

Hello ZIRP trap. How to get risk-free rates back up to 5% is the tricky bit.

30   Bellingham Bill   2015 Aug 11, 7:54am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

Keep in mind that all things being equal, this should be a low logarithmic increase

red is age 16+, purple is core working age population, flat since the boomers started aging out of this segment in 2000

31   SFace   2015 Aug 12, 5:41pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

"1.Because house prices are in expensive areas still dangerously high compared
to incomes and rents."

Flawed logic. Homes are expensive because people pay for them and will pay even more for them. It's proven prime homes gets people rich. Buying cheap homes keeps you broke. location, location, location is not going to change, ah maybe location x5.

32   SFace   2015 Aug 12, 5:43pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

"2.Because it's usually still much cheaper to rent than to own the same size
and quality house, "

flawed logic. whether it is cheaper to own or rent is based on future unknown factors (future rent and future price). The lifetime owner in Palo Alto is at least 10 time richer than the liftetime renter in Palo Alto.

33   SFace   2015 Aug 12, 5:46pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

"3.Because it's a terrible time to buy when interest rates are low, like now."

While that may true, interest rate have trended down in one direction for 30 years. Good luck waiting for interest to be back to 1980, which is never. Low interest makes carrying assets cheaper. Most homes are now off the market forever because of low interest rates. record low inventory amid record prices proves this

34   SFace   2015 Aug 12, 5:48pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

"4.Because buyers already borrowed too much money and cannot pay it back."

That is a 2005 argument, not 2015.

35   SFace   2015 Aug 12, 5:50pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

"5.Because buyers used too much leverage. Leverage means using debt to amplify
gain"

This is also so 2005. real estate leverage is pretty low.

36   SFace   2015 Aug 12, 5:51pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

"6.Because the housing bubble was not driven by supply and demand. There
is huge supply because of overbuilding, and there is less demand now that the
baby boomers are retiring and selling."

This is also so 2005 when 2M homes were built for 5 straight years, most in suburbs and exburbs. For the past 8 years, homes are underbuilt, less than 1M, which drives the supply problem now. Boomers are not selling for another 20 years which means the generation x will pay for it.

37   SFace   2015 Aug 12, 5:54pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

"7.Because there is still a massive backlog of latent foreclosures"

It's 2015 not 2009.

38   SFace   2015 Aug 12, 5:55pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

"8.Because first-time buyers have all been ruthlessly exploited and the
supply of new victims is very low."

Prices are at record in-spite of record low home ownership rate. Money buys home not first time buyers.

39   SFace   2015 Aug 12, 5:56pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

"9.Because boomers are retiring. There are 70 million Americans born between
1945-1960. One-third have zero retirement savings. The oldest are 66. The
only money they have is equity in a house, so they must sell."

The boomer will not sell for another 20 years.

40   SFace   2015 Aug 12, 5:57pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

"10.Because there is a huge glut of empty new houses. Builders are being forced
to drop prices even faster than owners"

It's 2015 not 2009.

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