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Ben Carson says what Americans think

By Quigley   2015 Sep 22, 6:22am   2 links   23,662 views   56 comments   watch (2)   quote      

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/ben-carson-wont-back-down-from-comments-about-129572984511.html

And he gets publicly excoriated by the media. Even other GOP candidates called him out for it. For saying something that is 100% true! Islam is a clear and present danger to the Western world. And from what I see on the comments to this article (which is totally blowing up btw), the grand majority of people believe the same thing Dr. Carson says. He might be establishment but with this bold statement I'm putting Carson on the fast track for the top. Quit the campaign? Hardly, this statement will rise him to the top.

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17   Strategist   2015 Sep 22, 5:14pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

bgamall4 says

Strategist says

bgamall4 says

The ignorant people who think all Muslims are violent would think this. If that is a majority of the people the Zionists have done what they set out to do, make the US into the hateful image of Israel. You must be proud, Bigsby.

No one thinks all Muslims are violent. Grow up.

You are correct, but they hate non violent Muslims the same, and Pam Geller has stated that.

Muslims hate Zionists, and so do you. I really don't give a damn.
I hate the Shariah laws, and so should the Muslims.

bgamall4 says

So, the Zionists have succeeded if they get people to fear peaceful Muslims, too. You are a retard, Strategist.

I could say the same thing by switching "Zionists" with "Muslims"

18   Strategist   2015 Sep 22, 5:17pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Quigley says

errc says

my first glimpse of the Carson fella on the TV. He has one hell of a tan

Makes Obama look positively Aryan!

Probably a lot smarter than the dictator in chief as well.

You are half right.
Carson comes across as too rational, too brilliant. Does he have any emotions?
Reminds me of the Vulcan Spock.

19   Strategist   2015 Sep 22, 6:35pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

bgamall4 says

Well, as it turns out, Charlie Hebdo did provoke and the editor of Charlie Hebdo was a Pam Geller type, pro Israel and not interested in free speech so much as putting Israeli views into the mix. And that is exactly what is happening here. Israel wants us to hate all Muslims, peaceful or not. Pam Geller was sponsored by Israeli lobbyists. Strategist thinks this sort of bigotry is just fine, or at least that is the impression I get. I have a short fuse with him, sorry. He may just be a disgusting troll, I don't know.

But America has had a history of tolerance, and it is written into the constitution. So, the US is being wrongly turned to bigotry, and it is paid for by Zionist in Israel and their globalist friends.

This is exactly the kind of thinking we are talking about. We can provoke politicians with cartoons, we can provoke any other religion with cartoons, but we cannot do the same with Islam without facing the death penalty. The Shariah laws have been enforced upon us, and our government is powerless to stop it.

20   Strategist   2015 Sep 22, 7:37pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

bgamall4 says

But that is not the reason why it was done.

Really? Why were they killed?

bgamall4 says

Sharia law is practiced by few Muslim nations.

They all do in one form or the other.

bgamall4 says

Muslims are fleeing the ISIS Caliphate. Give it a chance and it will work out, Strategist.

What is working out to you?

bgamall4 says

Trust me, the Zionists have caused all the problems that now exist in the Middle East. They have funded and engaged in regime change, they have funded one Muslim group against another, they have caused the refugees in Europe. They are the primary reason there is hell in the middle east and God will so judge them for this, from Cheney, to Netanyahu to all the rest.

Trust me, it's all due to Islam.

21   TwoScoopsMcGee   2015 Sep 22, 7:37pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

bgamall4 says

Trust me, the Zionists have caused all the problems that now exist in the Middle East.

Bwahahahahaha. Before the Zionists showed up, the Middle East was a peaceful place, where Sufis, Salafyi/Wahabis, Ibadi, and Shi'a all sang kumbayah around the fire. Kindly Sheiks and Noble Kings dispensed wealth as proclaimed by the Koran, to the poor and suffering. There was no slave trade, and little girls were not sold to Sheiks, or children made into cripples to beg for money. Everybody had two camels.

22   Strategist   2015 Sep 22, 7:42pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

thunderlips11 says

bgamall4 says

Trust me, the Zionists have caused all the problems that now exist in the Middle East.

Bwahahahahaha. Before the Zionists showed up, the Middle East was a peaceful place, where Sufis, Salafyi/Wahabis, Ibadi, and Shi'a all sang kumbayah around the fire. Kindly Sheiks and Noble Kings dispensed wealth as proclaimed by the Koran, to the poor and suffering. There was no slave trade, and little girls were not sold to Sheiks, or children made into cripples to beg for money. Everybody had two camels.

Damn Zionists. Make me sick.

23   Strategist   2015 Sep 22, 8:07pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

bgamall4 says

Zionists

I wonder if he gets a nickle every time he posts that here? Seems to be his favorite troll word.

Seems like a dollar to me.

24   Strategist   2015 Sep 22, 8:23pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

Strategist says

I wonder if he gets a nickle every time he posts that here? Seems to be his favorite troll word.

Seems like a dollar to me.

Wow, if so, he should be rich enough to afford a house in the bay area based on the number of times he's posted it!

He could have, but I think he spent it on booze.

25   BlueSardine   2015 Sep 22, 8:33pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

wasn't he on Bonanza?

Quigley says

Ben Carson says what Americans think

26   BlueSardine   2015 Sep 22, 8:37pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    


if you tolerate islam, you are helping to spread violent intolerance.

if you do not tolerate islam, you are not tolerating a religion, which is against the constitution.

what is the answer?

27   Bigsby   2015 Sep 22, 8:39pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

bgamall4 says

The ignorant people who think all Muslims are violent would think this. If that is a majority of the people the Zionists have done what they set out to do, make the US into the hateful image of Israel. You must be proud, Bigsby.

I live in an Arab country and have done for a long time you blathering fool.

28   BlueSardine   2015 Sep 22, 8:43pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

ya know how ya know? cause he/she/it gets a keyboard with an apostrophe key...

Entitlemented says

Some people believe god exists, some dont.

But if she/he/diety does exist, its almost certain that hes smarter than us mortals.

29   Bigsby   2015 Sep 22, 8:50pm     ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Quigley says

Not all Muslims are violent of course!

Quigley says

And Obama's administration (via his appointee Kerry) just announced that we will be importing 100,000 of these terrorists into our country each year.

Do you ever think about what you post?

30   landtof   2015 Sep 22, 8:54pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Quigley says

errc says

my first glimpse of the Carson fella on the TV. He has one hell of a tan

Makes Obama look positively Aryan!

Probably a lot smarter than the dictator in chief as well.

yeah if you're gonna go with a black president, go with a real black-ass motherfucker, thusly:

"anytime"

31   HEY YOU   2015 Sep 22, 9:10pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

If Carson is a Christian & eats any pork,shellfish or fish/sea food without scales,he'll probably burn in Hell. No Christian that does these things should be President. How's that belief that America was founded on Judeo-Christian Propaganda,Carson?
Rightwing religious nuts.

God don't play hypocrisy.

32   Quigley   2015 Sep 23, 5:35am     ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

It's always amusing when atheists quote Jewish law at Christians to prove they are bad bad bad! Christianity puts the teachings of Jesus over the law of Moses. Christians look to the law for guidance but not mandate, and consider grace and mercy to be paramount, superceding the harsh old law.

America isn't a Christian nation and hasn't ever really been. A lot of Christians of different flavor have lived here, but actual followers of the teachings of Jesus? Maybe the Amish. Everyone else was busy fighting for their share of the American pie.

33   CL   2015 Sep 25, 11:21am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

Does that mean that you won't let him remove your brain?

It means he must've practiced lobotomies on himself.

mell says

It's funny in a tragic way how the progressive leftoids always disregard or trivialize brutal killings of apostates, (mostly female) adulterers and yes even homosexuals by a huge and growing force to reckon with as long as they can point their finger at somebody who says they think homosexuality is a sin (or evolution should be questioned) but otherwise fully supports the constitution and the same civil rights for everyone. Why would you hate Christians and your Christian ancestors so much that you are ready to excuse anything as long as you can point their finger at them?

I don't hate Christians, or our primitive ancestors. I hate stupidity, or pandering masked as stupidity.

I'm open to the idea that we sprang from the a giant Lotus flower from the Buddha's belly. I don't believe it though because all of our historic, scientific and rational thought indicates that is a silly idea.

Carson believes that religion can exclude a candidate AND claims to believe in the Constitution. He believes in fairy tales as a scientist, and so on. He might've prescribed himself too many oxys, but he appears to be an idiot savant. Socially awkward, crazy, confused but pretty good at a task where he doesn't have to interact with normal people.

34   Strategist   2015 Sep 25, 1:32pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

HEY YOU says

If Carson is a Christian & eats any pork,shellfish or fish/sea food without scales,he'll probably burn in Hell. No Christian that does these things should be President. How's that belief that America was founded on Judeo-Christian Propaganda,Carson?

Rightwing religious nuts.

God don't play hypocrisy.

That would leave cardinal Mahoney and the Pope as the only Presidential candidates.
One protects pedophiles, and the other can't speak English.

35   Bigsby   2015 Sep 26, 6:03am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

bgamall4 says

I know, which is why you should be saying most Muslims are peaceful and oppose Pam Geller and Ihor Kolomoyskyi. You are a fool if you don't, Bigbsy. But I never hear stuff like that from you. I only hear silence. Speak out, Bigsby. Quit being a troll, only.

Why do I need to state the obvious about Muslims? And it doesn't matter what I say anyway as you'd keep posting your deranged nonsense irrespective.

36   Bigsby   2015 Sep 26, 6:37am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

bgamall4 says

Because many people in America are starting to reject the truth that most Muslims are peaceful. It is called Islamophobia. You aren't aware of that Bigsby?

Yeah, and the whole population of the US reads Patrick.net, do they? Ignorant people make up their own reality irrespective of the facts - just look at you.

bgamall4 says

I have my own religious views, but America is supposed to be a tolerant nation which gives us strength as a nation. We must be tolerant,and cannot hate entire religious or racial or ethnic groups like Geller and Kolomoyskyi do.

Is it? According to whom? And you aren't really best placed to talk about tolerance given the offensive drivel you post day in and day out.

bgamall4 says

You are like Trump, who has many Muslim friends but is at least xenophobic at heart, and maybe worse.

Straight into the top ten stupidest sentences you've posted on here.

37   Bigsby   2015 Sep 26, 7:33am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

bgamall4 says

Education is a slow process. But apparently you aren't willing to engage in that important part of society's well being.

Yes, yes, pointing out the bleeding obvious on a forum read by a handful of people is obviously an important educational opportunity.

bgamall4 says

Tolerance is the opposite of bigotry. That does not mean one accepts the views of others as his own. We aren't advocating thought police. People have a right to their own views. But America is the opposite of bigotry, probably more than any other nation on the face of the earth.

America isn't the opposite of bigotry. It's a relatively young nation with some good and bad history. And that includes plenty of intolerance and bigotry. To state otherwise is ridiculous.

38   Strategist   2015 Sep 26, 9:12am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Bigsby says

bgamall4 says

I know, which is why you should be saying most Muslims are peaceful and oppose Pam Geller and Ihor Kolomoyskyi. You are a fool if you don't, Bigbsy. But I never hear stuff like that from you. I only hear silence. Speak out, Bigsby. Quit being a troll, only.

Why do I need to state the obvious about Muslims? And it doesn't matter what I say anyway as you'd keep posting your deranged nonsense irrespective.

LOL.
Bigs, your debating skills are very powerful. You should be a trial lawyer.

39   komputodo   2015 Sep 26, 12:38pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

errc says

Just caught my first glimpse of the Carson fella on the TV. He has one hell of a tan

yeah, he's trying to identify as black.

40   Strategist   2015 Sep 26, 1:35pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

bgamall4 says

Strategist says

LOL.


Bigs, your debating skills are very powerful. You should be a trial lawyer.

If the jury was made up of 12 Bigsbys, I would give up my law license.

If you were on trial, the jury would unanimously find you guilty.

41   Bigsby   2015 Sep 26, 9:01pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

bgamall4 says

If the jury was made up of 12 Bigsbys, I would give up my law license.

You have to have one before you can give it up.

42   Reality   2015 Sep 26, 9:41pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

HEY YOU says

If Carson is a Christian & eats any pork,shellfish or fish/sea food without scales,he'll probably burn in Hell. No Christian that does these things should be President. How's that belief that America was founded on Judeo-Christian Propaganda,Carson?

Rightwing religious nuts.

God don't play hypocrisy.

Levitucus doesn't apply to Christians who follow the New Testament (allegedly) establishing a new covenant via Christ.

IMHO, 12th century Christians waging wars on pagans would not qualify to be a POTUS. JFK the first Catholic POTUS qualfied only after he clarified that he would put US Constitution above commands from the Pope. In today's world, a self-identified Muslim would be fine by me if he puts the US Constitution above the Quoran, but then he would be disowned by just about every Imam in the world! It would not be wise to have a US president who is an automatic declared enemy of all muslims of the world (for "apostasy"). Therefore the reality is such that I would not advocate a muslim to be the POTUS at this time either. Not because of that candidate's personal beliefs, but because of the politics of the world. Just like I would not advocate a Fundamentalist Mormon practicing polygamy to be the POTUS despite my personal non-discrimination against polygamy or Mormanism of any form. Ben Carson should have explained better.

43   resistance   2015 Sep 27, 9:48am     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Reality says

JFK the first Catholic POTUS qualfied only after he clarified that he would put US Constitution above commands from the Pope. In today's world, a self-identified Muslim would be fine by me if he puts the US Constitution above the Quoran, but then he would be disowned by just about every Imam in the world!

bingo! that's exactly it.

44   monkframe   2015 Sep 27, 10:43am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

I haven't looked at Patrick's Web site in a long time. This thread (and Patrick's surprising rant about religions on another thread) remind me why I stopped looking here for useful information. Re Dr. Carson: I think that his and Mr. Trump's popularity reflect a deep frustration with a broken political system and an increasing ignorance in the public's knowledge about how a democracy is supposed to work. If there was more activism from informed people in our political system, we'd be a helluva lot better off than we are, but people are so pressed to the wall trying to survive that that's unlikely.

45   Patrick   2015 Sep 27, 11:49am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

monkframe says

Patrick's surprising rant about religions on another thread

rant? no anger, just observation and interpretation. do you think the interpretations are wrong?

http://patrick.net/religion/Constituencies+of+the+Three+Religions

46   Strategist   2015 Sep 27, 12:50pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    


Reality says

JFK the first Catholic POTUS qualfied only after he clarified that he would put US Constitution above commands from the Pope. In today's world, a self-identified Muslim would be fine by me if he puts the US Constitution above the Quoran, but then he would be disowned by just about every Imam in the world!

bingo! that's exactly it.

I like that logic, Reality. But what about Obama?
His father was a Muslim, therefore, as per Islam, Obama is a Muslim too. He is now an apostate, as he has accepted Christianity.

47   Strategist   2015 Sep 27, 12:52pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    


rant? no anger, just observation and interpretation. do you think the interpretations are wrong?

It was much too mild. No one who reads Patnet can ever be offended after reading the daily insults here.

48   Reality   2015 Sep 27, 1:05pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

IIRC, Obama's father left before Obama was even born, and saw Obama only for a month, when Obama was 10 years old. Obama attended Catholic school when his mother was remarried to an Indonesian man.

49   Strategist   2015 Sep 27, 4:02pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Ironman says

Strategist says

But what about Obama?


His father was a Muslim, therefore, as per Islam, Obama is a Muslim too.

Yep, he is.... He spent the first 4 or 5 years in an Indonesia school. These are the formative years in a kid's development, so what do you think his religious foundation is based on?

No doubt he has Islamic influence, but his mother was a Christian, and mothers play a very strong influential role.
I also believe Obama is a closeted atheist, enabling him to shake off any Islamic beliefs.

50   Bigsby   2015 Sep 27, 7:38pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Ironman says

Yep, he is.... He spent the first 4 or 5 years in an Indonesia school. These are the formative years in a kid's development, so what do you think his religious foundation is based on?

Indeed, and as he went to the Santo Fransiskus Asisi Catholic school for the first couple of years, what does that suggest to you?

51   komputodo   2015 Sep 27, 7:51pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

landtof says

yeah if you're gonna go with a black president, go with a real black-ass motherfucker, thusly:

baby steps...

52   Bigsby   2015 Sep 28, 4:42am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

That he's definitely NOT a Catholic, otherwise he'd be going to church on Sundays.

Fine, so feel free to explain how those formative years in a Catholic school make him a Muslim.

53   lostand confused   2015 Sep 28, 4:45am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

He is definitely not Muslim. Michelle has his balls in her purse.

No Muslim man will be a hen pecked husband.

54   Bigsby   2015 Sep 28, 8:22am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

Did he spend his time 24/7 in school? Never went outside? Never traveled around the country? Never interacted with anyone else in the population?

In the 2010 Indonesian census, 87.18% of Indonesians identified themselves as Muslim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Indonesia

Remind us all again how old he was. And what exactly do you think Muslims/Sikhs/Hindus... in America are surrounded by? I take it that they are all now Christians according to your logic.
But, hey, feel free to post up your next stupid argument. We all know you're good for it.

55   Bigsby   2015 Sep 28, 8:24am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

Sure, we'll never know... It's too bad video cameras haven't been invented yet, otherwise the Press would be capturing Obama going to church on Saturday.

Good job they've posted up all those videos of him going to the local mosque 5 times a day. Oh, hang on...

56   Rew   2015 Sep 28, 9:52am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

BayAreaObserver says

Okay now once again - read very very slowly

Waste of your time BayAreaObserver. That person is an angry troll who "wants to be right on the internet" more than they want to learn, adapt, and grow. Not worth the physical effort to punch a key to talk to them. It's never a conversation. (There is no logic that can be used to get through to them, especially when it comes to Obama. They are lost to the dark side. Walk away ... walk away ...) :)

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