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Predictions for 2016 election

By Quigley   2016 Feb 5, 10:04am   1 link   16,159 views   49 comments   watch (1)   quote      

Feel free to post yours. The more detailed and thoughtful the better!

Here's mine:
1) the Republican nomination goes to Marco Rubio.
a)Cruz and Rubio and others stay in long enough to secure a bunch of delegates, and when they bow out (all except Rubio) they endorse Rubio thus assigning their delegates to him. Trump gets about 35-40% of the delegates, but Rubio gets all the rest. The superdelegates are assigned to Rubio by party elders and the gay Cuban is crowned.

2) Bernie eeks out a win for the Democrat nomination.

3)Trump runs as a third party candidate. He's never really been a Republican and he feels no loyalty to a party that didn't want him. The GOP party leaders go into apoplexy. Trump reminds them that he never actually promised!

4) a significant amount of Republican voters abandon their party and vote Trump leaving Rubio with no chance of a win.

5) Bernie gets 45% of the vote. Trump gets 30% of the vote, and Rubio gets 25%.

6)America becomes socialist and CiC's brain explodes.

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10   Bellingham Bill   2016 Feb 6, 4:35pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

anything but Clinton vs. Bush plz.

not because of the peeps, just the names.

11   iwog   2016 Feb 6, 4:39pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

tatupu70 says

How awesome would a Sanders/Warren ticket be?

That would go a long way in repairing the inevitable rift with the feminists that would occur if Hilary doesn't become the nominee.

12   Quigley   2016 Feb 6, 5:27pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

That would go a long way in repairing the inevitable rift with the feminists that would occur if Hilary doesn't become the nominee.

Let them be angry! It's funny to watch the IHLs out on the sidewalk in their man-clothes trying to out-butch each other as they menace passers-by with leaflets about the vagina.

13   iwog   2016 Feb 6, 5:38pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

I don't want them to be angry at the expense of giving the White House to an Ayn Rand sociopath. Let them swoon over Lizzy as VP then they can all collectively fuck themselves.

14   errc   2016 Feb 6, 6:18pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

I kinda wanna Hillary to beat out Sanders. He wouldn't be able to implement much if any of what he's promised. And i want the world to see what true phonys the Democrat party is; that they'd have the chance to elect someone who actually stands for everything they claim to believe in, and instead, bend over, grab their cankles, and gobble up a giant fart sandwich of Clinton bullshit.

15   iwog   2016 Feb 6, 6:26pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

If you give Republicans an Ayn Rand disciple president, you'll mark that as the pivotal moment when the final slide into oblivion began.

Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, and Ted Cruz are all FANATICAL Ayn Rand religious zealots. It's staggering to think that almost everyone voting for one of these three men has never read Atlas Shrugged.

It's like deciding to become a rabid fundamentalist Christian without having the slightest idea what's in the Bible, or more accurately a Muslim suicide bomber without ever having read the Quran.

16   Entitlemented   2016 Feb 6, 7:35pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Quigley says

3)Trump runs as a third party candidate. He's never really been a Republican and he feels no loyalty to a party that didn't want him. The GOP party leaders go into apoplexy. Trump reminds them that he never actually promised!

I think Trump loves this country more than this. I think Trump actually likes Rubio, a lot.

17   indigenous   2016 Feb 6, 8:36pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

iwog says

Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, and Ted Cruz are all FANATICAL Ayn Rand religious zealots

Always funny to see how the mutts conflate Austrian economics with Ayn Rand

18   mell   2016 Feb 6, 8:54pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

iwog says

Rand Paul, Paul Ryan,

...that almost everyone voting for one of these three men

Neither one of them are running for President, but thanks for showing us how clueless you are.

indigenous says

iwog says

Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, and Ted Cruz are all FANATICAL Ayn Rand religious zealots

Always funny to see how the mutts conflate Austrian economics with Ayn Rand

Technically Rand Paul is still on the ballot (so he can get votes), but he suspended his campaign and has no chances of winning. I'm not sure why we always have to come back to childish rants about Ayn Rand who wrote interesting books raising legitimate questions and topics just because somebody doesn't like her ;)

19   errc   2016 Feb 6, 9:13pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

It's all about his fears (and his total immaturity

Says the moron that posts a half dozen threads a day about Bernie sanders and 50+ posts all day everyday, the majority of which are pre-teen esque memes and pictures popular amongst the double digit IQ crowd

20   iwog   2016 Feb 6, 9:45pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

mell says

I'm not sure why we always have to come back to childish rants about Ayn Rand who wrote interesting books raising legitimate questions and topics just because somebody doesn't like her ;)

You've never read Atlast Shrugged, have you.

“One of my all time heroes, Ayn Rand, in Atlas Shrugged described how the parasitical class would put into place arbitrary power. Standard-less rules precisely so the productive citizens in the private sector would have to come on bended knee to those in government seeking special dispensation, seeking special favors because that arbitrary and standard-less rule empowers the political class and disempowers the people."

~ Ted Cruz

"I don’t know about you, but I believe in the Jesus who died to save himself, not enable lazy followers to be dependent on him. He didn’t walk around all willy nilly just passing out free healthcare to those who were sick, or food to those who were hungry, or clothes to those in need. No, he said get up, brush yourself off, go into town and get a job and as he hung on the cross he said,”I died so that I may live in eternity with my Father. If you want to join us you can die for yourself and your own sins. What do I look like, your savior or something?""

~ Ted Cruz

21   Tenpoundbass   2016 Feb 7, 6:51am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Bill Gates has already decided this and we're all wrong.
It's going to be a tight race between Hillary and Bush. He's still accepting the highest bid.
That's why they are both franticly still raising money, when it would seem neither of them stands a decent chance.. That Bill Gates is a ball buster, he calls each one of them every day and says... "TICK TOCK!" then hangs up.

22   mell   2016 Feb 7, 9:28am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

“One of my all time heroes, Ayn Rand, in Atlas Shrugged described how the parasitical class would put into place arbitrary power. Standard-less rules precisely so the productive citizens in the private sector would have to come on bended knee to those in government seeking special dispensation, seeking special favors because that arbitrary and standard-less rule empowers the political class and disempowers the people."

~ Ted Cruz

"I don’t know about you, but I believe in the Jesus who died to save himself, not enable lazy followers to be dependent on him. He didn’t walk around all willy nilly just passing out free healthcare to those who were sick, or food to those who were hungry, or clothes to those in need. No, he said get up, brush yourself off, go into town and get a job and as he hung on the cross he said,”I died so that I may live in eternity with my Father. If you want to join us you can die for yourself and your own sins. What do I look like, your savior or something?""

~ Ted Cruz

I don't like Cruz, but that doesn't mean he cannot get it right sometimes (and sometimes wrong). What he describes in the 2nd part is the calvinistic view that has dominated the US for a long time. The political class is definitely parasitical and needs to be kept in check at all times. Obamacare was a disaster and made things worse, although I favor free basic healthcare for the people in combination with a free market model and price discovery. He also got it right when he said we must prevent Loretta Lynch to become AG (of course that didn't work out). So whatever, I'd love to have seen a stronger Rand Paul, but Trump is good in my books, the rest are just establishment politicians. If Hillary or Bernie becomes president, this country is fucked. But at least let it be the career politician Bernie, not the criminal Hillary. Have some decency!

23   iwog   2016 Feb 7, 9:59am     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

As always, you're missing the fucking point and are dishonest about his connection to Ayn Rand. He is not utilizing a couple of her good ideas. He's a convert. An evangelist. A tool. He's the embodiment of everything evil about Ayn Rand. He's LITERALLY ready to allow people starving in the streets to die.

He doesn't want low taxes, he wants no taxes. He doesn't want moderate government controls, he wants no government controls. An Ayn Rand disciple will argue that laws against ejecting toxic cancerous sludge into rivers used for drinking water is FINE because people will stop buying products from the company producing the toxic cancerous sludge and the market will correct the infraction.

Just as in 2004, this election is about good versus evil. About informed versus ignorant. About people who have an IQ over 100 and people who have an IQ under 60. Republican politicians are minions of the aristocracy and a return to feudalism. They at least have a purpose. Republican voters on the other hand are naive, stupid, ignorant dumbfucks who think giving a blowjob is an impeachable offense. You shitheads are too stupid to even realize that nearly every policy, tax, and trade agreement currently in effect was originated and pushed through by REPUBLICANS. Nearly all of you embrace the things you hate because you're too stupid to know the difference.

Republicans bitched and moaned and organized tea party rallies because of Solyndra and the apparent waste of well under 1 billion dollars. Yet you ridiculous assclowns never even blinked when Bush wrote Halliburton, an oil company, a check for $100 billion in part to provide pre-cooked meals for the armed forces. You people are a joke. A blight on the species. I'd argue these points with a Republican but Republicans don't argue. They don't provide support. They don't explain their positions. They speak their talking points then run away and hide.

24   iwog   2016 Feb 7, 10:07am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

By the way I'm pretty sure none of you morons ever bothered to check.......Ted Cruz, like Ayn Rand, is an atheist. Oh he'll claim otherwise, in fact he'll say atheists don't belong in government, but read what he said about Jesus above. He butchers the Bible and he has no discernible religious convictions. He has you all suckered.

25   mell   2016 Feb 7, 10:28am     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

Republicans bitched and moaned and organized tea party rallies because of Solyndra and the apparent waste of well under 1 billion dollars. Yet you ridiculous assclowns never even blinked when Bush wrote Halliburton, an oil company, a check for $100 billion in part to provide pre-cooked meals for the armed forces.

Bush got a lot of flak for halliburton, and rightfully so. I think Bush should have been at least probed for the Iraq war and the halliburton connection. But how likely is that to happen when this war was supported by influential Democrats as well and even after the resolution was passed nobody staged any significant protest regarding it being non-constitutional. Ron Paul was one of the few that continually voiced opposition (Trump is on the record speaking against the Iraq war as well). But that is somewhat irrelevant to your diatribes against Ayn Rand (who may have opposed that war as well). It's ok if you don't like a contender for their position(s), but going on a rant of good vs evil doesn't make sense. Nobody here is a Cruz fan AFAIK, so what's the issue?

26   FortWayne   2016 Feb 7, 10:45am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

If Democrats win again, we are all going to be pretty much fucked. Seen this happen before in other countries, same socialist shit always has same shit outcomes.

27   indigenous   2016 Feb 7, 10:49am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

FortWayne says

If Democrats win again, we are all going to be pretty much fucked. Seen this happen before in other countries, same socialist shit always has same shit outcomes.

That ship sailed between 4 and 8 years ago.

Although a case could be made that the pathology started at 1800 with John Marshall, Hamilton's legacy through Lincoln and on to Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Obama, and now likely Clinton.

28   tatupu70   2016 Feb 7, 11:02am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

You got that part right:

-

And once again, CIC demonstrates he doesn't know the difference between intelligence and age.

If anything, young people are more worried about the future of the country than seniors.

29   tatupu70   2016 Feb 7, 11:03am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

mell says

Ron Paul was one of the few that continually voiced opposition (Trump is on the record speaking against the Iraq war as well).

As was Sanders.

30   indigenous   2016 Feb 7, 11:07am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

tatupu70 says

mell says

Ron Paul was one of the few that continually voiced opposition (Trump is on the record speaking against the Iraq war as well).

As was Sanders.

That is the ONLY similarity.

31   tatupu70   2016 Feb 7, 11:08am     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

indigenous says

That is the ONLY similarity.

Not really--Sanders is against the Patriot Act.

You'd be surprised at the similarities.

32   tatupu70   2016 Feb 7, 11:12am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

Sure, because everyone knows kids between 17 and 29 are ALL rocket scientists!

Just how many gallons of Sander's Kool-aid do you drink every day?

Are you incapable of making a logical argument?

I said there is no correlation between age and intelligence and your response is this:

Ironman says

Sure, because everyone knows kids between 17 and 29 are ALL rocket scientists!

What is wrong with you?

33   tatupu70   2016 Feb 7, 11:13am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

Of course they are, they want everything GIVEN to them, and don't want to work for it. The seniors have already paid their dues and worked hard for 40 years.

I'm sorry your kids are spoiled brats, but I can assure you that all children aren't this way. Most had better family role models.

34   indigenous   2016 Feb 7, 11:18am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

my concern is that one is a Libertarian and one is a Communist; Which IMO are not similar at all.

35   tatupu70   2016 Feb 7, 11:29am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

You "say" a lot of things but NEVER back them up with FACTS or DATA... You're "opinion" doesn't mean shit here!

I didn't think anyone would disagree with that statement. Did you attend any schooling?

If anything, the prevailing theory is that intelligence declines with age, especially when you reach senior citizenship. Studies are being performed to try to measure the effect and determine if's related to senses or intelligence.

36   iwog   2016 Feb 7, 11:45am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

FortWayne says

If Democrats win again, we are all going to be pretty much fucked.

Why don't you explain exactly by what mechanism we're going to be fucked? You think Canada is fucked? You think Germany is fucked?

You're typical of most Americans who don't even have a passport and think entering a foreign country is like crossing the river styx.

37   errc   2016 Feb 7, 11:58am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Only someone with a double digit IQ would think that age has anything to do with intelligence

I was in 2nd grade when they pulled me from class to do an IQ test, score me a 150, and begin advanced classes so i was able to graduate by the end of Sophomore year of HS

I moved out of my parents house at 17 and now with multiple properties and businesses, I'm ready to vote for Sanders

Put that in your stupid pipe and feel the Bern!

38   indigenous   2016 Feb 7, 12:04pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

errc says

I was in 2nd grade when they pulled me from class to do an IQ test, score me a 150

Apparently before you discovered mota.

39   iwog   2016 Feb 7, 12:04pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

mell says

Bush got a lot of flak for halliburton, and rightfully so.

Right......so much flak he was re-elected in 2004.

My point wasn't the fact that you morons abandon your central arguments the moment the sides change. My point was that you consider crony capitalism under $1 billion to be a serious threat while $100 billion, of which a federal court ruled much of it was overcharge, doesn't even register on Fox news. That's over 10,000% worse but you don't really care do you.

You are simply not capable of judging reality and neither is any Republican. You're a brainwashed minion and you vote accordingly.

40   FortWayne   2016 Feb 7, 12:17pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

Why don't you explain exactly by what mechanism we're going to be fucked? You think Canada is fucked? You think Germany is fucked?

Democrats will raise taxes, economy will drop like a dead goose. Hordes of bricks in the wall who only know how to pound chest and scream for entitlements will never be productive and we'll end up no better than every other socialist nation that is either dying in poverty or has collapsed.

41   tatupu70   2016 Feb 7, 12:26pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Actually, you've furthered my point. After 50 all lines are going down pretty quickly according to that study.

But, like I said, there are many studies going on now, and there is general disagreement.

42   tatupu70   2016 Feb 7, 12:51pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

No, it blew your point out of the water. We weren't discussing "after 50", we were discussing the 17 to 29 age group and intelligence and where Bernie gets the highest percentage of supporters, but thanks for trying and smoke screening you being proven to be an ass.... again...

Did you read the article? Let me provide a few other quotes for you:

"As expected, the research found that some skills, like our ability to think quickly and recall information (also known as fluid intelligence), follow the familiar pattern: peaking at about 18 and falling over the rest of our lives."

"At almost any given age, most of us are getting better at some things and worse at others," lead study author and MIT department of brain and cognitive sciences researcher Joshua Hartshorne told Business Insider"

Ironman says

tatupu70 says

there are many studies going on now, and there is general disagreement.

So you think posting one study that partially agrees and partially disagrees with my statement somehow proves that there ISN'T disagreement??? You are the biggest clown on pat.net

43   tatupu70   2016 Feb 7, 12:53pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ironman says

We weren't discussing "after 50", we were discussing the 17 to 29 age group and intelligence and where Bernie gets the highest percentage of supporters, but thanks for trying and smoke screening you being proven to be an ass.... again...

btw--who's we? I was very clearly stating that intelligence and age are not correlated. You, on the other hand, have the crazy idea that young adults aren't as intelligent as seniors.

44   B.A.C.A.H.   2016 Feb 7, 1:15pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

It'll be rigged. Maybe more like the riggings in 1960 and 2004 than in 2000.

45   iwog   2016 Feb 7, 1:24pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

FortWayne says

Democrats will raise taxes, economy will drop like a dead goose.

Like what happened when Reagan raised taxes? No? How about when Clinton raised taxes in 1993? No?

Soooooooooo Democrats are going to raise taxes less than Reagan did and FAR less than Europe or Canada, but somehow in your peabrain you think we're fucked.

46   Bellingham Bill   2016 Feb 7, 1:29pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

tatupu70 says

You, on the other hand, have the crazy idea that young adults aren't as intelligent as seniors.

wisdom, on the other hand . . .

47   mell   2016 Feb 7, 3:27pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

mell says

Bush got a lot of flak for halliburton, and rightfully so.

Right......so much flak he was re-elected in 2004.

He was re-elected based on 9/11. On incidents like this a country usually unites with their leader, no matter if they're weak or strong in the polls - esp. if they promise swift answers.

The rest of your rant is not worth addressing, but I (like many) supported Obama's first term. We're not part of the sports team herd and mentality.

48   iwog   2016 Feb 7, 4:57pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

mell says

We're not part of the sports team herd and mentality.

Anyone who votes to put Republicans in government deserves Republicans in government. I can't make it more clear than that.

49   mell   2016 Feb 7, 9:55pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

mell says

We're not part of the sports team herd and mentality.

Anyone who votes to put Republicans in government deserves Republicans in government. I can't make it more clear than that.

Pick your poison, I'd say with the current state of the Democrats the Republicans are the lesser of two evils (wasn't always that way). Of course now with the rise of the Cuckservatives we may be trending towards equally bad now. But that's where Trump comes into the equation..

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