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Passing on Bernie was really, really stupid

By Dan8267   2016 Sep 15, 5:04pm   3 links   3,222 views   31 comments   watch (1)   quote      

Some brain-dead women will vote for Hillary because any woman no matter how bad. Some brain-dead old white men will vote for Trump because they are racist morons who think Trump is going to keep his xenophobic promises. The vast majority of people hate both and are simply voting for the one they hate less, usually according to their geopolitical borders.

The only man most people like was Bernie Sanders. All those independents would have voted Democrat if he had been nominated. Hillary supporters and those who fear Trump have no one to blame but the Hillary camp if Trump is elected.

Bernie has a long history of supporting civil rights including getting arrested to support equality. Hillary Clinton said "I was a Goldwater girl" referring to Barry Goldwater, the asshole who establish the modern Republican platform and voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. She also called African Americans "superpredators".

Bernie stood up in Congress and defended homosexuals against an asshole politician. Hillary Clinton strongly opposed marriage equality until it became political suicide to do so.

Bernie was against the Bush wars, which were illegal by international law. Hillary Clinton voted for every way she could and every military action she could.

Bernie has a lifetime record of fighting for equal rights for women including economic rights. Hillary Clinton slut-shamed and blamed a 12-year-old girl who was raped so brutally that she could not have children ever in her life.

Bernie is a strong supporter of real action to fight pollution and climate change. Hillary is in the pockets of big oil.

Passing on Bernie Sanders for Crooked Hillary was a very, very stupid move.

#TheBernGoesOn

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1   NuttBoxer   2016 Sep 20, 1:26pm     ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Choose your turd sandwich or giant douche like everyone else, and stop complaining. Old queef is off the ballot, end of story.

2   Ceffer   2016 Sep 20, 1:29pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Bernie has great Perma-Pest creds. Do we really want him to be an empowered pest with Fed control and in front of the world?

He's what is known as an oppositional defiant. He will oppose ANYTHING that has the tiniest consensus as long as it draws attention to himself.

3   TwoScoopsMcGee   2016 Sep 20, 1:30pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Yep. And Trump's victory is inevitable. The media doesn't even bother hyping the debates next week. The internal polling must be atrocious, the Oligarch Blogs are panicking, and even TDS sufferers are feeling exhaustion from trying to find something to pin on him.

If Bernie was running, we'd have a policy debate. All the Hitlery-Bush-Obama camp does is ignore their track record of failure, hinting they'll stay the ineffective if not counter-productive course of Bad Econ and Foreign Policy. This crew who fucked up the middle east bad with countless interventions, drone bombings, coups, etc., while screaming Trump is reckless and dangerous

4   Dan8267   2016 Sep 20, 2:32pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

NuttBoxer says

Choose your turd sandwich or giant douche like everyone else, and stop complaining. Old queef is off the ballot, end of story.

Irrelevant. It is always important to understand cause and effect even when you cannot change a situation. The value lies in making future decisions based on pass mistakes. So, yes, there is great value in discussing the stupidity of the democratic establishment and their media puppets. There are lessons to be learned here, and those who do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.

5   truth will find you   2016 Sep 20, 2:39pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

I liked Bernie better, and voted for him in my state primary, but not without reservations:

1. $15 minimum wage will work in high priced coastal cities; It is way too big a hike for poorer areas of the country, and will lead from $10 an hour job to no jobs for lots of people. That isn't just my opinion, that is the opinion of most economists.

2. ZERO foreign policy to speak of, and dodged questions. In the debate, given an open ended question about "threats to america" he pivoted to global warming. FFS, we know your opinion on this, you just got an opportunity to let us know about your plans for the middle east, china, russia, and ran back to your talking points..... DEEPLY disappointed...

3. Free college. Don't buy it. Take our system, and strengthen it, but just making it free, even for the very rich, will lead to its own set of unintended bad consequences. students that enroll, don't try, just drop, cause hell its free so why bother? Already common actually, but will get worse.

that's just off the top of my head. Like I said, I sent in my ballot for him, but I had a hell of a lot of reservations, so lets not pretend he was a perfect candidate.

6   Dan8267   2016 Sep 20, 2:39pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

even TDS sufferers are feeling exhaustion

Transit Disorientation Syndrome? Is that a real thing?

I've heard of hibernation sickness, but that only applies if you are frozen in carbonite.

7   FP   2016 Sep 20, 3:18pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

truth will find you says

let us know about your plans for the middle east, china, russia

What plans for the Middle East, China and Russia do you expect to hear in 2 minutes? You think anybody has a solution for the Middle East after Bush, Obama and Clinton? Why do we need any plans for Russia?

I'll take a good meaning and intelligent person with no immediate plans over a hawk like Hillary any time.

8   FP   2016 Sep 20, 3:20pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

truth will find you says

That isn't just my opinion, that is the opinion of most economists

Nonsense

9   FP   2016 Sep 20, 3:23pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

truth will find you says

Free college. Don't buy it.

Check Germany.

Even if it does not work, big deal. We get a man in the White House who actually wants to do good and fix a few things for the benefit of our county and the world. When was the last time we had this?

10   NuttBoxer   2016 Sep 21, 9:30am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says

The value lies in making future decisions based on pass mistakes.

Not when future decisions will always come down to choosing between a turd sandwich, or a giant douche.

11   HEY YOU   2016 Sep 21, 9:42am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

I'm sure that electing Clinton or Trump will solve america's problems & will eliminate all my problems in future lives.
Everyone knows that one person is the solution.
Democrat & Republican voters need an emergency operation to remove their stupid gene
& a psychiatrist to make sure there are no residual effects.

12   Dan8267   2016 Sep 21, 10:17am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

NuttBoxer says

Not when future decisions will always come down to choosing between a turd sandwich, or a giant douche.

Especially when the decision comes down to choosing between a turd sandwich and a giant douche because the greater evil can be significantly greater.

13   Dan8267   2016 Sep 21, 10:19am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

HEY YOU says

Democrat & Republican voters need an emergency operation to remove their stupid gene

And what exactly would you have the voters do? Note: This is a trap. If you say vote third party, I'll make you look foolish. But hey, it's your choice.

14   NuttBoxer   2016 Sep 22, 1:09pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says

Especially when the decision comes down to choosing between a turd sandwich and a giant douche because the greater evil can be significantly greater.

If you've tied great significance to voting for evil, regardless of the degree, you need to take a big fuckin step back and re-evaluate. Or you've given up. Either way, I feel sorry for you.

15   Dan8267   2016 Sep 22, 3:10pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

NuttBoxer says

If you've tied great significance to voting for evil, regardless of the degree, you need to take a big fuckin step back and re-evaluate.

Press a button and your daughter gets a nasty scar across her face for the rest of her life. Don't press that button and she gets raped to death. Are you really making the case that not pressing the button is the wiser or morally right thing to do?

Not choosing to act is still choosing. You are still responsible for your choices even when the choice is inaction.

16   TwoScoopsMcGee   2016 Sep 22, 4:06pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

17   FP   2016 Sep 22, 4:22pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says

Press a button and your daughter gets a nasty scar across her face for the rest of her life. Don't press that button and she gets raped to death. Are you really making the case that not pressing the button is the wiser or morally right thing to do?

Poor example, Dan. A single person's decision whether to vote or not is statistically insignificant. In contrast, in the example that you have given the consequences depend 100% on that choice. Furthermore, the election is a long process. Threatening not to vote in the final round if the two finalists are "a turd sandwich and a giant douche" is a valid strategy to influence the process.

18   mmmarvel   2016 Sep 22, 4:47pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

What is the problem with Bernie?? Pretty much everything.

19   Dan8267   2016 Sep 22, 5:59pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

FP says

Dan8267 says

Press a button and your daughter gets a nasty scar across her face for the rest of her life. Don't press that button and she gets raped to death. Are you really making the case that not pressing the button is the wiser or morally right thing to do?

Poor example, Dan.

Depending on what you think this is an example of.

This example illustrates the principle that choosing between the lesser of two evils, although not ideal, can be very important.

20   Dan8267   2016 Sep 22, 6:08pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

mmmarvel says

OK, so on one hand we have a funny picture. On the other hand we have detailed analysis from a professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst who says Bernie's plan will actually save us $20 trillion over the next decade. Hmmm, funny pictures vs. actual math. Hard to determine which side is right.

Because of the nearly $10 trillion in savings, it is possible to fund over $4.5 trillion in additional services while still reducing national health care spending by over $5 trillion. With these net savings, the additional $14.7 trillion in federal spending brings savings to the private sector (and state and local governments) of over $19.7 trillion.

Math is hard and requires think work. Let's just go with the funny picture.

21   mmmarvel   2016 Sep 23, 5:53am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says

Math is hard and requires think work. Let's just go with the funny picture.

Then let's look at some more funny pictures

22   Dan8267   2016 Sep 25, 11:09pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

mmmarvel says

Then let's look at some more funny pictures

Yep, that's the best Bernie's opposition can do. Put a couple of lies on a picture and call it a meme. Doesn't make it true.

P.S. The military is the largest socialist program ever.

23   Ceffer   2016 Sep 25, 11:23pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

If it ain't free shit, it ain't Bernie.

24   Dan8267   2016 Sep 26, 9:11am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

From those hippies at Military.com

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1. Blue Star Theatres
2. Build a Sign
3. National Parks
4. eKnowledge
5. Tutor.com
6. FICO Scores
7. Amusement Parks
8. Museums
9. Holiday Freebies
10. Seasonal Freebies

Oh, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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26 Deals & Freebie Offers For Veterans And Active Servicemembers Today
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Damn entitled servicemen. They must all be Bernie supporters.

It's funny how people object so dearly to socializing the cost of college, something that western European nations have done for decades with great success, but they are completely OK with other groups like soldiers and big corporations and farm owners getting shitloads of free stuff. By the way, I don't object to soldiers and veterans getting free stuff, but I do object to the hypocrisy of those who support that and yet call students wanting education to be paid for by the state a bunch of freeloaders. And I completely object to all the free stuff that transnational corporations and farm owners get at our expense.

25   mmmarvel   2016 Sep 26, 10:17am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says

I don't object to soldiers and veterans getting free stuff, but I do object to the hypocrisy of those who support that and yet call students wanting education to be paid for by the state a bunch of freeloaders. And I completely object to all the free stuff that transnational corporations and farm owners get at our expense.

People in the military give the country something ... time, defense when needed, humanitarian causes and efforts. WHAT exactly do students do besides whine??

26   NuttBoxer   2016 Sep 26, 10:57am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says

Press a button and your daughter gets a nasty scar across her face for the rest of her life. Don't press that button and she gets raped to death. Are you really making the case that not pressing the button is the wiser or morally right thing to do?

Not choosing to act is still choosing. You are still responsible for your choices even when the choice is inaction.

Your mind is completely jailed. If a game gives options that poor, the best bet is not to play. When a system is broken, you don't still engage it, you scrap it and start over. My choice is to act like I'm the only one responsible for my life, and the lives of my family. To teach myself independence, and self sufficiency. If the system collapses, I'm fine. If it continues, I'm fine. But I wouldn't bet on the former.

27   Dan8267   2016 Sep 26, 11:40am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

mmmarvel says

WHAT exactly do students do besides whine??

You could say the same thing about elementary school and high school. Should the state not pay for them as well?

The entire purpose of socializing the cost of education is to increase the educational level of the general population. A low education population is bad for civic duty, voting, and our economy. Just look at the Middle East. That's what you get with poor education.

Now if you want to make the case that college shouldn't be that expensive in the first place, that's a whole 'nother topic.

NuttBoxer says

Dan8267 says

Press a button and your daughter gets a nasty scar across her face for the rest of her life. Don't press that button and she gets raped to death. Are you really making the case that not pressing the button is the wiser or morally right thing to do?

Not choosing to act is still choosing. You are still responsible for your choices even when the choice is inaction.

Your mind is completely jailed. If a game gives options that poor, the best bet is not to play. When a system is broken, you don't still engage it, you scrap it and start over.

Of course the optimal solution to to throw away our electoral system and rewrite it from scratch. But that's not going to happen.

If forced to make that choice, and if not choosing is effectively choosing the greater evil, then one must choose the lesser of the two evils.

Again, in the scenario I stated above, would you not press the button or would you let your daughter get raped to death by refusing to play the game?

28   BayArea   2016 Sep 26, 1:28pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

How the liberals dropped the ball and chose Hillary over Bernie is still leaving me scratching my head...

29   Dan8267   2016 Sep 26, 2:17pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

BayArea says

How the liberals dropped the ball and chose Hillary over Bernie is still leaving me scratching my head...

We didn't. Leftists voted for Hillary. We liberals were appalled.

Just listen to Noam Chomsky on any well known liberal on Hillary Clinton. Some may prefer Hillary over Trump, but they are all disgusted by her and would have gone with Bernie regardless of whether or not they strongly disagreed with his economic policies.

A lot of liberals aren't even registered Democrat because that party is too despicable, even though the Republicans are more so.

30   BayArea   2016 Sep 26, 2:25pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says

aren't even registered Democrat because that party is too despicable,

Well we certainly agree there.

31   jazz_music   2016 Sep 26, 3:10pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Sure I'll accept those memes unquestioningly as god intended.

I can't bear the thought of people like Trump not having dominion over us working people.

Have you found anyone to rent out a bedroom to yet?

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