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Patrick's Predictions

By someone else   2016 Nov 7, 8:46pm 9743 views   156 comments   watch   quote      

I don't know whether Trump will win the election or not. I think he has a better chance than polls predict, because the majority of Americans have been strongly conditioned not to speak their actual views through decades of threats of job loss or expulsion from school, and this probably carries over when speaking with pollsters.

If Hillary wins, I predict that Trump's movement against establishment politicians will continue to grow, because the conditions which gave rise to Trump will continue. Hillary will continue to aggressively export US jobs, import foreign labor to depress wages, restrict free speech, attack traditional values, and start additional wars around the world. That would make the next election unfortunately even more interesting.

If Trump wins (very much like the Brexit), the dollar will drop, and therefore US exports will surge. There will be tariffs against China, and US manufacturing will in fact revive. Some form of the wall with Mexico will be built, and millions of illegals will leave or be deported (so the cost of vegetables, maids, and construction work will go up). People will feel free to support traditional values like clear gender roles and heterosexual marriage, and the declining marriage rate will reverse and start rising again. We will withdraw militarily from many countries. Iran will invade and take over Saudi Arabia's mostly-Shiite oil fields, and Saudi Arabia will plunge into civil war, raising the price of oil. Oil production in the US and other countries will go up to compensate and oil prices will fall again. Overall US prosperity will increase for the masses, while the super-wealthy find their wealth stagnating because they depended so much on Hillary's policies. So the gap between rich and poor will decline.

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117 Strategist   2016 Dec 18, 5:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says

Iran will invade and take over Saudi Arabia's mostly-Shiite oil fields, and Saudi Arabia will plunge into civil war

Iran dare not attack Saudi Arabia. They will be sorry.
I could care less for Saudi Arabia, as long as we control them.

118 HEY YOU   2016 Dec 18, 5:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says

I could care less for Saudi Arabia, as long as we control them.

g.w.bush had complete control over Saudis on 9/11.
Hope you washed that foot before you stuck it in your mouth.lol
Who's this"we" you speak of? The 1% control all economic benefits.
"We" will be receiving our share of profits soon.

119 Strategist   2016 Dec 18, 5:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

HEY YOU says

Strategist says

I could care less for Saudi Arabia, as long as we control them.

g.w.bush had complete control over Saudis on 9/11.

Hope you washed that foot before you stuck it in your mouth.lol

Obviously, Bush did not control them enough, and we still don't.

HEY YOU says

Who's this"we" you speak of? The 1% control all economic benefits.

"We" will be receiving our share of profits soon.

We as in Americans, or the world of democracy.

120 zzyzzx   2016 Dec 18, 6:10pm   ↑ like (5)   ↑ dislike (5)     quote      

Patrick says

People will feel free to support traditional values

People at work were openly saying Merry Christmas, and I do not recall that happening all that much before.

121 Strategist   2016 Dec 18, 6:15pm   ↑ like (5)   ↑ dislike (5)     quote      

zzyzzx says

Patrick says

People will feel free to support traditional values

People at work were openly saying Merry Christmas, and I do not recall that happening all that much before.

I'm a fucking Atheist, and i say "Merry Christmas" because it is Christmas.......Duh!

122 Mrs Wonderful   2016 Dec 18, 7:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

As opposed to an eunich Ztheist?

Strategist says

I'm a fucking Atheist

123 marcus   2016 Dec 19, 8:07am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

IT's well known that there has been a war on Christmas led by liberal politicians and openly satan worshippong companies such as Starbucks.

By next year, nobody will be allowed to say happy holidays anymore. Thanks goodness.

Boycott these pagans.

124 TwoScoopsMcGee   2016 Dec 19, 8:52am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote      

Rashomon says

It has - have you noticed the exchange rate as one obvious example? And this is several years before we are even likely to leave. The leave campaign was based on a very clear set of lies and demonstrates (just like with Trump in the US) how easy it is to mislead an ill-informed electorate. Just look at the Brexit battle bus and the utterly flagrant £350m a week lie they peddled the entire campaign. Of course, they reneged on it the day they won the referendum.

The absolutely guaranteed offshoring of British Rx hasn't happened. In fact several are expanding operations.

McD's international business HQ is moving from the EU and into Britain.

British Services are up big league.

FTSE 100 is up like 10% just since Brexit. From around 6300 to over 700.

The rapey-murdery-assaulting-stone throwing Calais barbarians will never be forced on Britain by the EU.

125 finehoe   2016 Dec 19, 9:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

zzyzzx says

People at work were openly saying Merry Christmas

Why do cons/republicans obsess over such silly bullshit? All of the things happening in the country and the world and this is what they spend their time worrying about.

126 jazz_music   2016 Dec 19, 9:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

marcus says

By next year, nobody will be allowed to say happy holidays anymore.

Why is that? You sound like you feel that Merry Christmas is the only acceptable holiday greeting.

If that is true, it looks like you are waging war.

Your comment doesn't even sound like you. Are you being sarcastic?

127 joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 19, 9:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

I find that Satan Worshipping companies have better quality and customer service. I know--it's kind of ironic.

128 Blurtman   2016 Dec 19, 9:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

The prediction about Anna Nicole Smith rising from the dead to lead a zombie horde against all that is corrupt and impure was spot on.

129 someone else   2016 Dec 19, 9:23am   ↑ like (6)   ↑ dislike (6)     quote      

finehoe says

zzyzzx says

People at work were openly saying Merry Christmas

Why do cons/republicans obsess over such silly bullshit? All of the things happening in the country and the world and this is what they spend their time worrying about.

I think it is actually important to be able to say Merry Christmas openly and without fear of reprisal. Not silly bullshit.

If you cannot speak freely, you cannot even think freely. To control speech is to control thoughts.

It's a war of slippery slopes. The left claims that Merry Christmas is a step towards a Christian theocracy, which is obviously nuts because people said Merry Christmas for close to two centuries here without any theocracy before the saying became effectively outlawed.

For the right, the outlawing of Merry Christmas is a step down the slippery slope towards complete globalization and the effective destruction of all national borders and identities. This would benefit international corporations and their elite owners at the expense of everybody else. All labor and environmental laws are made pointless by globalization if the elite can just move production to wherever the laws are weaker. The true irony is that labor and environmental laws were largely created by the left, and now the left is aggressively encouraging their utter destruction through globalization.

130 Strategist   2016 Dec 19, 9:26am   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote      

Patrick says

I think it is actually important to be able to say Merry Christmas openly and without fear of reprisal. Not silly bullshit.

The same people that refuse to say "Merry Christmas" probably have no problem saying "Happy Ramadan" or some shit like that.

131 jazz_music   2016 Dec 19, 9:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

finehoe says

Why do cons/republicans obsess over such silly bullshit?

Here's one typical example.

132 finehoe   2016 Dec 19, 9:41am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote      

Patrick says

without fear of reprisal.

And when has this ever happened?

Patrick says

the outlawing of Merry Christmas

Where has it been "outlawed"?

133 mell   2016 Dec 19, 10:00am   ↑ like (4)   ↑ dislike (4)     quote      

Patrick says

I think it is actually important to be able to say Merry Christmas openly and without fear of reprisal. Not silly bullshit.

Absolutely. Note that this is not a US only trend, but is happening in much of Western Europe as well. Kids being prohibited from performing the crib play at school, singing certain songs etc. It's one the most important topics because free speech is at stake. Doesn't get much more important than this.

134 finehoe   2016 Dec 19, 11:04am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote      

mell says

this is not a US only trend

Except it's not; it's a figment of the wingnut imagination. No one is being reprimanded for saying Merry Christmas, nor are they going to jail for saying it.

You guys will swallow the most ridiculous fantasies hook, line, and sinker.

135 Fucking White Male   2016 Dec 19, 1:45pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote      

finehoe says

mell says

this is not a US only trend

Except it's not; it's a figment of the wingnut imagination. No one is being reprimanded for saying Merry Christmas, nor are they going to jail for saying it.

You guys will swallow the most ridiculous fantasies hook, line, and sinker.

I know you could get a complaint against you at my workplace if you say it to the particularly wrong asshole.

I imagine Ribas might be like that.

136 joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 19, 1:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote      

If there isn't a guy dressed as Santa on every corner yelling "Merry Christmas" at the top of his lungs 24/7, then we're at war with Christianity.

137 jazz_music   2016 Dec 19, 1:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

joeyjojojunior says

If there isn't a guy dressed as Santa on every corner yelling "Merry Christmas" at the top of his lungs 24/7, then we're at war with Christianity.

That notion qualifies you to host a AM radio mic-bully show.

Learn how to shed real tears for war on Christmas and make your veins bulge while looking pissed for war on entitlements and you can be a talking head on Fox.

138 Blurtman   2016 Dec 19, 3:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

But is Die Hard a Christmas Movie?

139 joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 19, 6:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote      

jazz music says

That notion qualifies you to host a AM radio mic-bully show.

Hey that sounds good. Does it pay more than being a DNC stooge?

140 someone else   2016 Dec 19, 6:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote      

Fucking White Male says

I know you could get a complaint against you at my workplace if you say it to the particularly wrong asshole.

I imagine Ribas might be like that.

Bingo.

Try saying Merry Christmas at work and see how long it takes you to get a complaint.

Keep saying Merry Christmas after that, and you're out of a job.

Saying Merry Christmas is definitely illegal in fact if not in law yet.

141 zzyzzx   2016 Dec 19, 9:38pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote      

Instead of saying Merry Christmas:

Should piss off liberals more anyway.

142 joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 20, 5:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

"Try saying Merry Christmas at work and see how long it takes you to get a complaint."

I've yet to have one complaint filed against me in 20 years for saying Merry Christmas.

Here's a test for your Patrick. Why don't you go around alternating between Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and Happy Ramadan and see which one gets a complaint first. (I know it's not Ramadan season)

143 finehoe   2016 Dec 21, 7:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says

Saying Merry Christmas is definitely illegal in fact if not in law yet.

IF this is true (a big IF), it has nothing to do with the government or who's president. It's funny; cons/repugs believe that corporations should be able to do whatever they want without restriction, and yet here they don't want to follow their company's rules. I believe the standard con response is, "If you don't like it there, get another job".

144 TwoScoopsMcGee   2016 Dec 21, 7:05am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote      

Patrick says

It's a war of slippery slopes. The left claims that Merry Christmas is a step towards a Christian theocracy, which is obviously nuts because people said Merry Christmas for close to two centuries here without any theocracy before the saying became effectively outlawed.

I say Merry Christmas, always have without thinking about it.

Funny thing is you don't have to say "Happy Holidays" around Labor Day/Eid al-Adha.

The whole Happy Holidays is one more aspect of word policing.

145 joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 21, 7:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

"The left claims that Merry Christmas is a step towards a Christian theocracy"

Who says this? I've never seen anyone say anything like this?

146 finehoe   2016 Dec 21, 8:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

joeyjojojunior says

Who says this? I've never seen anyone say anything like this

Exactly. This whole thread is full of statements that the wingnuts "know" to be true, yet they can't back any of it up with empirical data.

147 joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 21, 11:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

"The whole Happy Holidays is one more aspect of word policing."

Or perhaps it is a way for people to greet someone, even if they're not sure that they are Christian. I know I can't always tell if someone is Jewish at first glance--Happy Holidays covers Hanukah and Christmas.

The hilarious thing about this "War on Christmas" though is that it's not the left or liberals who are waging it. It's corporations that are doing it because they want to appeal to the widest audience possible. So Republicans created this monster themselves. Not sure how Trump is going to be able to force Starbucks to say Merry Christmas.

148 finehoe   2016 Dec 21, 11:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

Ironman says

Here is Obama's "Christmas" card this year.

Why would a Muslim from Kenya send out a Christmas card?

149 Philistine   2016 Dec 21, 11:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says

Try saying Merry Christmas at work and see how long it takes you to get a complaint.

I work in a business around people who are either Jewish or Christian-descent (meaning, culturally and ethnically, if not actually regliously). I can say Merry Christmas to whoever I want, but the Jewish guys might snicker and think I'm a shmendrik. The *liberal* Jews, anyway, have a hell of a sense of humor and don't take offense to much as far as I can tell. We have a few snowflakes in the office, but they all are quite fine with the idea of Christmas (free shit! lazy time at work! lots of days off!).

Blurtman says

is Die Hard a Christmas Movie?

Absolutely. So is 'Less than Zero,' 'Gremlins,' and 'Eyes Wide Shut'.

150 TwoScoopsMcGee   2016 Dec 21, 11:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

VA Hospital did ban Christmas Trees in Public Areas:

UPDATE: A letter from the Salem VA Medical Center to all employees stating Christmas trees will not be allowed in public areas this holiday season ignites a debate. But, after a heated meeting Friday afternoon — management is going to deck the halls and light the tree after all.

Christmas trees have always been a part of Christmas at the Salem VA Medical Center.

For veteran Vicki Jackson, the tree symbolizes overcoming a hard time in her life. “It brought me over a big hump, because Christmas is hard for me, it’s real hard for something that happened years ago,” said Jackson. “And, to see that tree gone it’s not Christmas.”

It’s not just Jackson; it’s a message that provoked Salem VAMC employees, veterans and others in the community. And, after a closed meeting between management and up to 150 staff members; now, a tree will stand tall this holiday season at the Salem VAMC. “It was very tense in there with the director and amongst the employees,” said Jckson. “I wasn’t supposed to be there, but I went anyhow.”

In a statement the Salem VAMC public affairs officer said, “it was determined that Christmas trees could be displayed in public areas so long as they were accompanied by the respective symbols of the two other faiths that celebrate holidays during this holiday season – namely symbols commemorating Hanukkah and Kwanzaa. The decision comes after a letter from the Salem VAMC to employees which read, “trees have been deemed to promote the Christian religion and will not be permitted in any public areas this year.”


http://wsls.com/2015/11/20/salem-va-bans-christmas-trees-as-holiday-decorations/

Why do Christmas Trees need to be accompanied by other shit? Anybody read about Christmas Trees in the Bible? It's religious, not cultural.

A Big Bloody Jesus on a Cross is one thing, Santa and Lights is something else.

151 joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 21, 11:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

"Oh, JoJo, you're such a DNC Shill and stooge.. Here is Obama's "Christmas" card this year. Please tell us where the word "Christmas" is printed on it anywhere"

So, just by saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas--that's a War on Christmas?

152 TwoScoopsMcGee   2016 Dec 21, 11:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

Yes. Christmas is an official federal holiday, and it's not called "One of the Happy Holidays"

I hope no federal official, or city/state insititution wishes "Good Eid" or "Happy Ramadan" - that would be the ultimate in hypocrisy if a state/city/PS celebrated a Muslim Holiday by name but wants a euphemism for Christmas & Hannukah & NY combined.

153 joeyjojojunior   2016 Dec 21, 11:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

Is that in response to me?

154 finehoe   2016 Dec 21, 12:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote      

As a child, I always interpreted "Happy Holidays" as shorthand for "Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year".

155 casandra   2016 Dec 21, 2:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote      

Back in the 50s and 60s Edward Cayce predicted a prediction that I cannot find anywhere or mention of on the Internet.

He predicted way back when the queen of england had not really been on the thorn terribly long, it was like this....

"Finally there will be a King on the throne of England, and he will be the last !"

Has anyone heard any mention or remember this, that is if you even remember who Edward Cayce was. I would think that those who know about this are trying to keep the old goat alive long enough to outlive Charles, so that a much younger King, his son, will take over and give the monarchy a bit more time to survive.

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