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Patrick's 40 Proposals

By Patrick   Feb 19, 6:18am   270 links   44,504 views   288 comments   watch (3)   quote      

The common theme is ending the entrapment and exploitation of US citizens.

Copyright

Crime and Prisons

Discrimination

Education

Foreign Policy

  • End all visas for Saudis and freeze their US assets until they establish freedom to change religion and freedom of speech, stop murdering gays, and stop sponsoring terrorism.
  • Ban oil imports from countries without democracy, freedom to change religion, or freedom of speech.
  • Put compensating tariffs on foreign goods from countries with lower wages or lower environmental standards.

Freedom of Speech

  • Prohibit job termination based on political activities outside of work.

Immigration

Medical Care

Men's Rights

Money

  • Define the dollar as one ounce of pure silver minted by the US government.
  • Audit the Federal Reserve and make all their books and operations completely open to the public.

Real Estate

Regulation

Taxes

  • Require every employer and financial company to use the exact same printed and online format for every W-2, 1099, etc, and to make all financial data available to customers via standardized REST APIs. All fields must always have exactly the same names and be in the same positions. HR Block etc lobby to make sure this does not happen.
  • Increase taxes on non-productive rent-seeking and decrease taxes on income from productive work or sales. Swap the current maximum tax rates on income from work vs capital gains.
  • End Prop 13 in California.
  • Prohibit sales tax on used property that was already taxed per the full retail price when first sold.
  • Prohibit all public sector unions, especially teacher's unions and prison guard unions.

Transit

  • Give official federal priority to fast safe cheap rail transit in place of subsidies and favoritism for cars, oil, and highways.

Voting

  • Require proof of US citizenship to vote.
  • Establish the inalienability of the right to vote for all US citizens, whether in prison or not.
  • Publicly fund all congressional and presidential campaigns
  • Publicly post all bills two weeks in advance of Congressional vote. Require that Congressmen personally read entire bill before voting on it.
  • People should have a right to petition Congress regarding a specific proposal, and if they get enough signatures require a roll call vote in both houses of Congress on the verbatim topic of the petition, without amendments.

How you can help: If you agree with any or all of these proposals, please add your own feedback on the proposals and post links to the proposals on other websites.

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1   BayArea   Feb 19, 6:28am     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

No sales tax on used cars/boats/motorcycles that were already taxed per the full retail price when those items were first sold. I would extend that out to used anything that was already taxed at full retail price previously.

Eliminate permanent housing subsidy prop-ups like section-8.

Eliminate BS visual inspections during smog checks. If it passes the tailpipe test (what actually affects the environment), it passes! As you can see I'm bitter for being hassled about some air filter that CA didn't see as compliant even though the tailpipes test was clean as a whistle.

2   Booger   Feb 19, 6:30am     ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Remove tax incentives for having children.

3   Tenpoundbass   Feb 19, 6:49am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

* short clear written presentation of non-emergency medical costs before treatment, universally fixed costs for emergency treatment

I remember if you got hurt or really sick, they encouraged you to go the Hostpital. The Emergency Room was just a waiting room with nurses.
There were blue signs with a White H on the route to the Hospital. What ever they do Emergency Room related medical costs should still be considered as to cap roving Doctors that pop in to Hospital billing offices and sign their name on medical records they had nothing to do with. Bills still come 9 months later.

I think killing the insurance industry will pull medicine back in line. It's not like nobody will make medicine if Billionares aren't making 700% profit on it.

4   Tenpoundbass   Feb 19, 6:51am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Booger says

Remove tax incentives for having children.

Or replace it with just one Family tax break regardless of family size.

5   MrEd   Feb 19, 7:55am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

To mitigate global warming outlaw gasoline powered vehicles and convert carpool lanes to chariot lanes pulled by teams of illegal aliens.

6   CBOEtrader   Feb 19, 8:09am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

"* a ban on corporate and university kangaroo courts"

This would be the anti SJW immediate attention grabber.

Post an article about how the "The Hunting Grounds" and other extreme rape activism movies are fake news, anti-civil rights, etc... I know the producer. She inherited $100million from her father (her brother is my good friend), but she soapboxes about white male privilege and rape culture. Annoying AF. Ill tweet it to her and start a shitstorm:)

7   BayArea   Feb 19, 8:24am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

I have kids and I'm for eliminating the tax break for having kids because I cannot defend it in a debate.

8   Patrick   Feb 19, 9:19am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

BayArea says

No sales tax on used cars/boats/motorcycles that were already taxed per the full retail price when those items were first sold. I would extend that out to used anything that was already taxed at full retail price previously.

Yes, seems very unfair to get taxed twice on the same thing. Added above.

9   indigenous   Feb 19, 9:21am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Any angle on shrinking the 4th branch of government.

10   Patrick   Feb 19, 9:22am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

BayArea says

Eliminate permanent housing subsidy prop-ups like section-8.

I'm not so sure about this one. What about elderly or disabled people? They got to be somewhere and have not means of working to pay rent.

11   indigenous   Feb 19, 9:23am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

BayArea says

No sales tax on used cars/boats/motorcycles that were already taxed per the full retail price when those items were first sold. I would extend that out to used anything that was already taxed at full retail price previously.

Yes, seems very unfair to get taxed twice on the same thing. Added above.

End subsidies that keep single mothers single.

12   Patrick   Feb 19, 9:23am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

indigenous says

Any angle on shrinking the 4th branch of government.

What group do you actually mean there? Lobbyists?

13   indigenous   Feb 19, 9:28am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Lobbyist's is a tough one because it is a constitutional right.

I'm thinking the Federal department of education, energy, agriculture, FEMA, Homeland Security, etc.

14   FortWayne   Feb 19, 9:35am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

* mandatory jailing (not fines, jail) of employers of illegal immigrants for 30 days per violation

That would stop illegal hiring on after the first news report of a dude going to jail for a year after hiring around 10 illegals.

15   Patrick   Feb 19, 9:37am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Yup.

16   indigenous   Feb 19, 9:39am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

mandatory jailing (not fines, jail) of employers of illegal immigrants for 30 days per violation

Only if in conjunction with stopping the subsidies for immigrants. 1/3 of US welfare goes to Calif...

17   Patrick   Feb 19, 9:40am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

CBOEtrader says

"* a ban on corporate and university kangaroo courts"

This would be the anti SJW immediate attention grabber.

Post an article about how the "The Hunting Grounds" and other extreme rape activism movies are fake news, anti-civil rights, etc... I know the producer. She inherited $100million from her father (her brother is my good friend), but she soapboxes about white male privilege and rape culture. Annoying AF. Ill tweet it to her and start a shitstorm:)

Hey @iwog want to write this one?

18   landtof   Feb 19, 9:59am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

i second the kangaroo court issue. corporations have completely caved in to the SJW, and it's not a passive issue.

definition: SJW in corporate-speak is called "diversity and inclusion" and what it actually is in practice is anti-white-hetero-male

the executive body sets up a "hotline" run by SJW's to receive SJW complaints and perceived violations of policy. investigations are then conducted by SJW's.

19   indigenous   Feb 19, 11:17am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Another one could be how Saul Alinsky has created the current kerfuffle with the leftys and created HRC and Obama and the multicultural BS

20   Tim Aurora   Feb 19, 11:45am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

I think if you are looking for agenda driven Website count me out. I say that because it would be an Alt-right driven agenda and I do not want to be a part of an extreme. I can always go to a different forum

21   Patrick   Feb 19, 11:47am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Single-payer is alt-right?

22   Patrick   Feb 19, 11:56am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

indigenous says

Another one could be how Saul Alinsky has created the current kerfuffle with the leftys and created HRC and Obama and the multicultural BS

But what would be the desired new law, or changed old law?

23   Dan8267   Feb 19, 12:02pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

More ideas anyone?

Damn, Patrick for president. I agree with everything, except physical gold and silver money, which are too easily manipulated. I'd prefer a crypto-currency solution to the problem of countering currency debasement.

As for more ideas, many, but I don't have time for a long post right now. So a short list...
- Rewrite the Constitution
- Voting is a right, not a privilege, and that right cannot be taken away.
- Ban all searches that constitute rape or sexual assault.
- Revoke the freedom of religion clause of the First Amendment. Religion should have no privileges.
- Shore up the freedom of press and speech by having an explicit list of specific exceptions and anything not on the list is protected speech.
- Anyone in one branch of the government can never run or work for another branch.
- Anyone with a parent, child, or sibling who holds any public office cannot run for office.
- Unlimited IP telephony / Skype services for prisoners. It can be monitored, but access not limit except for demonstrable security reasons. And it should not cost anything.
- Demilitarize the police and replace occupation with community policing
- Emphasize rehabilitation
- End the war on drugs
- Physically move Israel, including all the "holy" dirt so someplace far from the Middle East. It's less expensive than all this warfare.
- Single payer clearinghouse that publishes all prices for medical services and streamlines all billing and collection
- Nationalize all health insurance. It's more economically efficient.
- Seize the farms of any farm owner who uses illegal labor knowingly
- End all property forfeiture and prosecute those who use it to commit robbery
- Create a national virtual university that is free for all students of any ages and thoroughly tests students with high standards. Later expand to high school.

24   Patrick   Feb 19, 12:29pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

I agree with many of these and incorporated some of your ideas into the original post above. I especially love the idea of a free national virtual university, end to property confiscation, a single-payer clearinghouse of prices by provider, Skype for prisoners, inalienable right for US citizens to vote.

I'd rather not touch the Constitution. I agree voting should be an inalienable right for US citizens. I don't see searches being sexual assault to any significant degree, and there remains the practical problems of searching for weapons. I'm against political dynasties, but don't want to explicitly forbid anyone from holding office, just like I would not take away their right to vote. The war on drugs has definitely failed (except for huge profits for the prison industry) so marijuana at least should be federally legal. Not sure the country would survive legalization of, say, heroin or cocaine.

The holy land isn't just the dirt. It's the physical spot on earth. They would fight anyway.

25   indigenous   Feb 19, 12:30pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

indigenous says

Another one could be how Saul Alinsky has created the current kerfuffle with the leftys and created HRC and Obama and the multicultural BS

But what would be the desired new law, or changed old law?

It is not a law, it is about ignorance and a culture of ignorance.

26   BayArea   Feb 19, 12:52pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Absolutely legalize cocaine, no question

27   Dan8267   Feb 19, 6:59pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

It's the physical spot on earth.

The Earth's core is molten and rotating. That physical spot is in constant motion. Make them choose between the sacred latitude and longitude coordinates or the sacred land. They can't have both.

We could move the land and the holy buildings to some nice spot west of Europe or Africa and give Israel ten times the land it currently has. I think the Israelis are practical enough to appreciate that.

The fact is that the Muslim world is not ready to grow the fuck up and accept living around Jews. It's just not happening.

28   Dan8267   Feb 19, 7:00pm     ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

BayArea says

Absolutely legalize cocaine, no question

Why should the possession and use of any drug be illegal? How does throwing drug addicts in jail help cure addiction? Sweden has the right model. Swedish models are usually quite beautiful.

29   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   Feb 19, 7:30pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Booger says

Remove tax incentives for having children.

30   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   Feb 19, 7:33pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

legalize prostitution

31   Patrick   Feb 19, 10:03pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

legalize prostitution

I don't feel very strongly about that either way. I can see that prostitution has some real harms, like psych damage to the prostitute, and spreading disease. But otoh, people should be able to fuck up however they want as long as they are not hurting others.

Dan8267 says

Why should the possession and use of any drug be illegal? How does throwing drug addicts in jail help cure addiction? Sweden has the right model. Swedish models are usually quite beautiful.

Again, if people want to fuck up their own lives, they should have the right. But otoh again, some drugs are pretty damaging and hard to resist once the user is hooked. On the third hand, the drug trade and the drug war itself are massively damaging, mostly because the drug are illegal. The only one I'm absolutely sure should be legal is pot.

32   WorkInProgress   Feb 19, 10:08pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

I want Patrick.net to help do some truly useful politically incorrect things. I'm trying to come up with a list of very simple clear campaigns to make or change laws. Here's my initial group:

  1. mandatory paternity testing at birth with zero child support obligations for non-biological fathers unless they voluntarily adopt the child
  2. a ban on corporate HR and university PC kangaroo courts; no firing or expulsion unless government court determines law has been broken
  3. proof of US citizenship as requirement to vote
  4. mandatory jailing (not fines, jail) of employers of illegal immigrants for 30 days per violatio and seizure of any farm who's owner who uses illegal labor knowingly
  5. short clear written presentation of non-emergency medical costs before treatment and universally fixed costs for emergency treatment
  6. single payer healthcare, no private insurance companies
  7. publicly funded congressional and presidential campaig...

Oh Patrick, how quaint. Simply makes too much sense and takes money out of the pockets of those in control.

33   indigenous   Feb 19, 10:17pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

You have quite a laundry list, could it be summed up by saying you after individual liberty?

34   Patrick   Feb 19, 10:23pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Yes, I was just trying to summarized them, and they are mostly about liberty, about not being manipulated, trapped, marginalized, and exploited.

35   indigenous   Feb 19, 10:25pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

A red pill type of a deal?

I first heard of you from Chris Martenson, he has a similar purpose.

I have since decided I disagree with him about peak everything, which has proven about peak oil.

36   Patrick   Feb 19, 10:35pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

I actually met Christ Martenson. He's a smart guy, but he was just very wrong about oil.

I first read in The Skeptical Environmentalist that we're actually proving more reserves per year, every year. It's just harder to get at.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Skeptical_Environmentalist

37   indigenous   Feb 19, 10:39pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Not to mention how quickly technology is changing and alternative sources, e.g. fracking is only the beginning which (I believe) in effect has made the US independent on oil. Which has been a goal (the mandate of the dept of energy, BTW why do they exist then?) for many decades, really mind blowing that hardly even is mentioned.

Chris is an example of how the scientific method gets it wrong.

38   CBOEtrader   Feb 19, 11:58pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

i want women to buy the first drink in a bar. I'm worth it dammit!

39   BayArea   Feb 20, 5:51am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

Yes, I was just trying to summarized them, and they are mostly about liberty, about not being manipulated, trapped, marginalized, and exploited.

Patrick says

mandatory paternity testing

should we change the paternity testing statement to "if either party requests" ?

40   Dan8267   Feb 20, 8:04am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

BayArea says

should we change the paternity testing statement to "if either party requests" ?

An often cited reason for legally requiring a man to submit to paternity testing even if he's not agreeing to raising the kid is that the child has a human right to know his or her family medical history, and this right trumps the privacy of either parent. Well, wrong information is way worse than no information. If a child thinks his parent is one person, who's family has a history of heart attacks, when it's really another person, who's family has a history of cancer, decisions made on the basis of that false information could cost the child his life and also endangers his children and grandchildren who also receive incorrect medical history information.

So yes, paternity testing should be mandatory. There is no downside unless you consider revealing affairs to be a downside.

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