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Will Trump prove once and for all he's a cucked pussy? STAY TUNED!!!!!

By iwog   Jun 25, 9:06am   476 views   11 comments   watch (0)   quote      


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1   APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   1342/1342 = 100% civil   Jun 25, 9:08am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

A real Republican has the guts to shoot the sick, the poor and the elderly in the face and piss in the wounds, exactly as the Founding Fathers intended.

2   iwog   2214/2216 = 99% civil   Jun 25, 11:59am  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

I wonder if any Donald Trump supporters will go on record saying they agree or disagree with the elimination of Medicaid?

My guess is absolutely not. With Trump's decision shortly in the balance, NONE OF YOU have the balls to actually render an opinion on this before it actually matters.
You're going to wait and see if the bill passes congress first and then what Trump will do with it second. Why? Because you don't care about issues, you only care about ego.

Prove me wrong. I'll wait...........

3   APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   1342/1342 = 100% civil   Jun 25, 1:35pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

A TRUE! CONSERVATIVE! wouldn't even waste the bullets. He'd use a bayonet, exactly the way the Founding Fathers intended.

4   Straw Man   712/717 = 99% civil   Jun 25, 1:55pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

elimination of Medicaid?

Where is the elimination of Medicaid proposed?

5   BayAreaObserver   1054/1055 = 99% civil   Jun 25, 3:35pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

6   BayAreaObserver   1054/1055 = 99% civil   Jun 25, 3:39pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Why Senate health-care bill has a better chance of passing than you think. (Commentary/OpEd)

The health care bill unveiled by Senate Republicans Thursday morning should, by the standards of the normal laws of politics, have approximately a snowball's chance in hell of passing.

But it's not dead. It might fail, but the chances of passage are very real — with most advocates on both sides now believing the GOP will succeed. Because ever since Donald Trump rode down the escalator at Trump Tower to say he was running for president to stop Mexico from flooding our country with rapists and murderers, nothing about the laws of political gravity have been operating the way they're supposed to. A fairly transparent grifter got himself elected president of the United States with 2 million fewer votes than his opponent, so anything can happen.

Donald Trump's explicit campaign promise to eschew cuts to Medicaid is thrown overboard in favor of drastic reductions. Promises that Mitch McConnell himself — and many other Republican legislators besides — made to address the high deductibles experienced on the Affordable Care Act exchanges are betrayed in favor of a program that will push people into even higher-deductible plans. Protections for patients with preexisting conditions are stripped away, as are financial protections that limit older Americans' exposure to sky-high insurance premiums.

The result is legislation that's opposed by America's hospital groups, by the AARP, and by virtually every relevant interest group under the sun. It also polls dismally, even as Obamacare has finally become modestly popular legislation now that it's under scrutiny.

Republican senators who a couple of months ago were criticizing the House bill's Medicaid cuts as too harsh are now warming up to a Senate bill whose cuts are even harsher.

The watchwords of Trump-era politics are "LOL nothing matters." If you're in a jam, you just lie about it. If you're caught in an embarrassing situation, you create a new provocation and hope that people move on. Everything is founded, most of all, on the assumption that the basic tribal impulses of negative partisanship will keep everyone on their side, while knowing that gerrymandering means Republicans will win every toss-up election. If you happened to believe that Republicans in office would deliver on their health care promises, well, you might be interested in a degree from Trump University.

More: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/23/health-bill-might-pass-in-trumps-era-of-nothing-matters-commentary.html

7   PeopleUnited   433/433 = 100% civil   Jun 25, 3:39pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Straw Man says

iwog says

elimination of Medicaid?

Where is the elimination of Medicaid proposed?

Its not, it is another strawman. The proposal is to reduce the expansion. So in reality under the new plan medicaid will expand, albeit slower than earlier planned. Oh noes!

8   HEY YOU   1055/1055 = 100% civil   Jun 25, 4:08pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

If one doesn't follow Trump on twitter how can they know anything?

9   iwog   2214/2216 = 99% civil   Jun 25, 5:26pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

BayAreaObserver says

Straw Man

PeopleUnited says

it is another strawman.

When you lunatics type "Straw man", do you think you just might be able to identify the fucking straw man? Just once?? To humor me??

I'm going out on a giant limb here and say you think that "eliminating medicaid" is the straw man. When did I say that? Quote me. All I did is ask for opinions.

Read the first fucking thing Trump said: "The Republicans that want to CUT SS and Medicaid are wrong." Agree or disagree? Take a position.

10   iwog   2214/2216 = 99% civil   Jun 25, 5:29pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

PeopleUnited says

The proposal is to reduce the expansion. So in reality under the new plan medicaid will expand, albeit slower than earlier planned. Oh noes!

Yeah that's just bullshit. Any funding that grows slower than inflation is a cut. Always. No exceptions.

11   BayAreaObserver   1054/1055 = 99% civil   Jun 26, 2:51am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Kellyanne Conway Says the Senate Health Care Bill Doesn't Cut Medicaid. That's Not True

White House Senior Adviser Kellyanne Conway denied that the Senate's health care bill would cut Medicaid, even though the draft revealed Thursday suggests otherwise.

"These are not cuts to Medicaid,"Conway told George Stephanopoulos on ABC's This Week. "This slows the rate for the future and it allows governors more flexibility with Medicaid dollars because they're closest to the people in need."

But the draft of the health care bill Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell released on Thursday includes steep cuts to Medicaid, aiming to phase out the federal funding implemented under Obamacare for states to expand Medicaid eligibility.

http://time.com/4832206/kellyanne-conway-health-care-bill-medicaid-cuts/

GOP Medicaid cuts would hurt much more than health care

The Senate’s new health bill, the Better Care Reconciliation Act, proposes even deeper cuts to Medicaid than the House bill. At risk is a program that provides relatively low-cost care to nearly 75 million Americans — including children, pregnant women, disabled individuals and elderly people in nursing homes.

As physicians, we are dismayed by the prospect of millions of patients losing access to the medical care they need. But what is often lost in the debate about who should have health care and who should pay for it is the larger fact thatMedicaid helps people live healthier, fuller and more productive lives. The unavoidable reality for those trying to dismantle the program is that the health of people is intimately linked to the health of communities, local economies and the nation as a whole.

The economic consequences of Medicaid ripple beyond those directly covered by the program. Federal health care funds pay doctors, nurses and hospitals — often the largest employers in a given city — but they also indirectly help local economies. Facilities pay for rent and equipment, and employees and businesses purchase goods like housing, food and transportation.

A report from the Commonwealth Fund last week found that the House's American Health Care Act would have large negative economic consequences. By 2026, the analysis estimates, nearly 1 million jobs would be lost (725,000 in health care), gross state products would decrease by $93 billion and business output would decline by $148 billion. Forty-seven states would suffer job losses in the coming decade, with Medicaid expansion states experiencing the biggest declines. Three of the top four losers — Florida, Pennsylvania and Michigan — voted for President Trump.

More: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/06/26/republican-medicaid-cuts-damage-more-than-health-column/426939001/

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