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We are probably fighting cold war 2.0 with Russia ... right now

By Rew   Jul 7, 7:45pm   1 link   289 views   12 comments   watch (0)   quote      

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I'm probably wrong. I HOPE I'm wrong, but watching these things line up, it looks very bad.

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Raqqa : the issue here now is which side will hold the city AFTER it is liberated. Russia/Assad/Iran or US/US-Syrian-backed-forces. This is the primary reason, with the chemical attack trigger, for a continued conflict between the 'coalition' forces right now. The noose tighten around the city by two different armies, essentially. The Jet was shot down because of this. Iranian drones shot down for encroaching.

A new 'ceasefire' on the table as Russia appears to have probed, and lined up : "Power plants, espionage, and elections, oh my" :
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/06/politics/russia-steps-up-spying-efforts-after-election/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/technology/nuclear-plant-hack-report.html
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-expanding-military-nato-not-sure-why-632344

Putin has cemented control of Russia (9/10 Russians approve, dissenters tend to die) and his approval has skyrocketed in the right wing nationalist movements of the US (mostly by GOP leaners) as well as UK/UKIP madness.

I sure hope we are up to this. We have the worst prepared and ill equipped head of armed forces, potentially, in history with Trump.

These were the opening moves. Russia is hoping US now entangles in N. Korea/China or Iran/more mid-east fun. With that it will move on former satellite Eastern European countries. Russia is highly encouraged by new US and European distancing. Russia's moves will come in the forms of subterfuge, intelligence wars, and offering to help with the 'growing threat of refugee terrorism' aimed at Eastern Europe. They will come as a champion of the West, and they will be anything but.

Our house is in ruins and I believe Europe is in deep trouble now.

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1   Rew   1136/1136 = 100% civil   Jul 7, 7:46pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

https://worldview.stratfor.com/themes/echoes-cold-war

of the Cold WarFrom the battlefields of the Middle East to the borders of Eastern Europe, Russia and the United States are clashing once again. As a global power, Russia is a shadow of its former self, but that wont stop Moscow from using every means at its disposal its military, security services, financial tools, cultural ties, propaganda, political connections and

2   Booger   624/624 = 100% civil   Jul 7, 8:08pm  ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike   quote    

3   Rew   1136/1136 = 100% civil   Jul 7, 8:10pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

You may one day regret such childish self expression.

4   BayAreaObserver   1054/1055 = 99% civil   Jul 10, 4:12pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

I think "probably" is past tense and has been for some time.

5   Quigley   883/889 = 99% civil   Jul 10, 4:15pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

If by Cold War you are referring to the war of propaganda waged against USA citizens by oligarch owned media companies and complicit politicians, then yes. Russia is just doing its thing, trying to advance itself and its interests, same as every other nation on the planet. If we can't get along with them, it's because we aren't good at diplomacy.

6   Rew   1136/1136 = 100% civil   Jul 10, 6:44pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Send in Trump! He is great at diplomacy!

I believe our new diplomatic measures in Africa are military only. Good stuff. Cannot wait to see the fucking nation lose its mind over the infectious disease issue that will flare up in a Trump's term. Gonna be the most backwards response possible.

7   BlueSardine   833/850 = 98% civil   Jul 10, 7:14pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

In the age of global warming there is no such animal...
Rew says

We are probably fighting cold war 2.0 with Russia ... right now

8   Strategist   2010/2015 = 99% civil   Jul 10, 8:03pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Rew says

I'm probably wrong. I HOPE I'm wrong, but watching these things line up, it looks very bad.

I think you are wrong. Trump loves Putin. Besides, Russia is not a Superpower any more. They already lost the cold war, and surrendered most of their communist values.
Our real war is......World vs Islam, and Russia is on our side.

9   Tenpoundbass   1414/1416 = 99% civil   Jul 10, 8:07pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

America is fighting a Cold War with the Fascist Socialist Left and Russia is our ally

10   Rew   1136/1136 = 100% civil   Jul 10, 9:44pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Strategist says

Our real war is......World vs Islam, and Russia is on our side.

Russia is on the side of weakened democratic alliances to further its own nationalist gains. It would love nations to promote nationalist interest and especially anti-Islamic ones. It is very "Make Russia Great Again". Please see Ukraine. Please see Eastern European nations who have warned of us their scaled up counter intelligence and election meddling. Please see a unanimous statement by our intelligence services that Russia hacked and sought to influence our election for Donald Trump. Please see continued aggression and attacks against our power plants and grid. Please see intelligence reports about the fact that have stepped up their intelligence activities against us. Please see Putin having a reported 9/10 approval rating ... because he kills the opposition and journalists.

Islam is a freaking blip compared to the maneuvers of the Bear.

Tenpoundbass says

America is fighting a Cold War with the Fascist Socialist Left and Russia is our ally

I assume you count people like me in that number. If so, America has already lost.

11   Strategist   2010/2015 = 99% civil   Jul 10, 9:49pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Rew says

Strategist says

Our real war is......World vs Islam, and Russia is on our side.

Russia is on the side of weakened democratic alliances to further it's own nationalist gains. It would love nations to promote nationalist interest and especially anti-Islamic ones.

Is this a joke? There isn't a nation that has Muslims in the minority that does not fear Islam. Who would not fear ISIS like barbarism?

12   Rew   1136/1136 = 100% civil   Jul 10, 10:02pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Strategist says

There isn't a nation that has Muslims in the minority that does not fear Islam.

Based on populist fear and the mob, sure. Countries themselves, especially leadership, nope! Plenty of representative nations NOT afraid of their Muslim minorities.

This is the Ebola scare on steroids.

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