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Brave engineer at Google states biological facts

By someone else   Aug 7, 9:04am   6 links   6,058 views   319 comments   watch (1)   quote      

Woohoo! There is a small break in the dam holding back scientific truth about gender.

http://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-the-full-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320

A software engineer’s 10-page screed (sic) against Google’s diversity initiatives is going viral inside the company, being shared on an internal meme network and Google+. The document’s existence was first reported by Motherboard, and Gizmodo has obtained it in full.

In the memo, which is the personal opinion of a male Google employee and is titled “Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber,” the author argues that women are underrepresented in tech not because they face bias and discrimination in the workplace, but because of inherent psychological differences between men and women. “We need to stop assuming that gender gaps imply sexism,” he writes, going on to argue that Google’s educational programs for young women may be misguided.

And some delightful nuggets of truth which have so far been repressed by shaming, straw-man exaggerations, and even firing of anyone with the balls to speak:

TL:DR

Google’s political bias has equated the freedom from offense with psychological safety, but shaming into silence is the antithesis of psychological safety.
This silencing has created an ideological echo chamber where some ideas are too sacred to be honestly discussed.
The lack of discussion fosters the most extreme and authoritarian elements of this ideology.
Extreme: all disparities in representation are due to oppression
Authoritarian: we should discriminate to correct for this oppression
Differences in distributions of traits between men and women may in part explain why we don’t have 50% representation of women in tech and leadership. Discrimination to reach equal representation is unfair, divisive, and bad for business.

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1   someone else   Aug 7, 9:35am     ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike   quote    

I read the whole thing and I love this guy! Such balls in the face of leftist authoritarianism! He's a man!

Of course the usual head-chopping reaction will happen, and has already started. His calm and rational analysis has been labelled a "screed" in that article, and Google's (always female) diversity officer stated that it contained "incorrect assumptions about gender", simply denying the overwhelming and universal evidence of biological differences between male and female preferences.

The leftist authoritarians will dispose of this guy as usual as a blasphemer against the leftist Koran, but at least he sacrificed himself for a good cause.

2   errc   Aug 7, 9:46am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

How will the right wing authoritarians and their army of mindless minions save us here?

3   someone else   Aug 7, 9:47am     ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike   quote    

There are no right wing authoritarians anymore.

All of the "agree or we will stomp on you" intolerance is from the left these days.

All of it.

4   errc   Aug 7, 10:00am     ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

Patrick says

There are no right wing authoritarians anymore.

All of the "agree or we will stomp on you" intolerance is from the left these days.

All of it.

Lol, you might try leaving your cave more often. Or tune out the propaganda.

So then, how will the Republicans save us from the evil leftist Authoritarians?

You do realize that Trump was elected solely because he is an Authoritarian, right?

5   errc   Aug 7, 10:06am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

Authoritarian- favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.

6   someone else   Aug 7, 10:08am     ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Lol, you might try working the SF Bay Area. Or take an honest look at the pervasive leftist propaganda.

Trump is authoritarian? Can I get fired for criticizing Trump? Nope, you can get fired only for supporting Trump. Completely one-sided. I have repeatedly heard executives making explicitly political anti-Trump statements, in effect telling their employees: "This is the political opinion you better have if you want to remain employed here."

7   someone else   Aug 7, 10:09am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

errc says

Authoritarian- favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.

Good description of the left these days.

8   socal2   Aug 7, 10:12am     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

errc says

So then, how will the Republicans save us from the evil leftist Authoritarians?

When Democrat politicians and Corporate managers realize that the majority of the people have had enough of this SJW nonsense and are willing to throw them out (like they did with Hillary in November), they will stop pandering and empowering these crazy Leftists.

9   errc   Aug 7, 10:18am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533

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10   errc   Aug 7, 10:25am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

errc says

Authoritarian- favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.

Good description of the left these days.

The left is the people favoring strict obedience to authority?

Nobody bothered to welcome me to bizarro world.

So when jackbooted police bust down my door, and rob me and harm me, they're leftists in a left wing government, enforcing left wing values? Lmao. Here's a hint, that is all right wing, anti-American behavior.

I have no interest in working in the SF Bay, yous have always made it to sound like overpriced slums. Either way, it is not representative of this country as a whole. Try visiting middle America once. It's a big Christian wasteland out there, chocked full of hardcore Authoritarians

11   someone else   Aug 7, 10:25am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Maybe give a tl;dr summary of what makes you think Trump is authoritarian and leftist squashing of dissent is not?

12   Quigley   Aug 7, 10:31am     ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Quash all ideological difference = rise of authoritarian control. We got fucking lucky that Trump was elected. It gives us a chance to get rid of and suppress the cultural marxists who want to bring back the Nazi party in the name of political correctness.

13   errc   Aug 7, 10:36am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Trump appointed Sessions as Attorney General , knowing full well that he would double down on the Anti American war on Drugs, which the majority of the populace has voted against, by legalizing cannabis in more than half the states.

Civil asset forfeiture double down.

Him and his supporters frequently, but vaguely, referring to a "return to law & order"

I could bury you under a mountain of evidence, however, so long as you are unwilling to consider it and change your mind, it's all for naught.

You're convinced some freaks and losers are the Authoritarians that run the show, from the left.

The reality is, ours is a right wing government, through and through. It's silly to suggest you're being controlled by leftists. Move out of San Francisco then for Chris sakes, this country is teeming with right wing (authoritarian) losers, if that's really who you'd rather neighbor up with

14   iwog   Aug 7, 10:37am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (4)   quote    

Patrick says

There are no right wing authoritarians anymore.

All of the "agree or we will stomp on you" intolerance is from the left these days.

All of it.

You're absolutely wrong on this one.

First of all Trump is not an authoritarian. He's too lazy and he's ignorant of any kind of leadership skills which would enable him to be authoritarian. Instead of cultivating his demagoguery, he's wasting it and degrading it. Despite cries that the polls are wrong, Trump's support is dropping quicker than any president in modern times.

However Trump's supporters are absolutely without a doubt hungry for an authoritarian leader to come to power and smite those they hate. The clearest example on this board would be Tenpoundbass who has repeatedly said he would love to see Trump use the military to crush his opponents and in his own words "would piss on the graves of liberals". I don't think any of this is hyperbole on his part. I think he'd be part of the cheering mob if Trump become a dictator. It think there are millions of other Americans who would do the same.

There is ample historical precedent for this to occur exactly right now in our history. Here's an excellent analysis by Sargon who unfortunately misses the fact that Trump is the would-be dictator who doesn't want the job. Sulla is coming.

15   socal2   Aug 7, 10:41am     ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

errc says

So when jackbooted police bust down my door, and rob me and harm me, they're leftists in a left wing government, enforcing left wing values? Lmao. Here's a hint, that is all right wing, anti-American behavior.

Most people don't have to worry about cops busting down their doors and taking their weed and meth.

More people have to worry about losing their jobs (or friends) because they used the wrong pronoun or didn't want to service a gay wedding.

More people have to worry about losing a job or being suspended from school because they are falsely accused of rape.

More people are forced to waste countless hours taking diversity training courses just to take a job.

In California, State legislators are blackballing any private contractor that works on the new border wall.

These are just a few examples of Left-wing authoritarianism that apparently hasn't passed your radar.

16   iwog   Aug 7, 10:43am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

I'll also comment on Antifa and clear up the confusion that they are liberal.

Antifa is unequivocally NOT LIBERAL. They are shameless anarchists who are fighting for the destruction of government which is exactly the opposite of what liberals want. It is astounding that a group that wants to eliminate government completely is spun by the right wing press into a group that is somehow supported by big government Democrats and it is being done to brainwash people into seeing Democrats every time they witness an Antifa protest.

They are also communist which is a bit of a contradiction until you understand that in their broken ideology, communism will naturally arise once all the leaders are executed. Most of us know this is nonsense but it doesn't matter. These aren't liberals.

17   someone else   Aug 7, 10:58am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

But back to the topic of the OP: Will this guy's calm call for tolerance of blasphemous viewpoints (instead of the echo chamber status quo) get him executed?

My bet is that it will.

He is getting too close to the biological truth of innate sex differences, and once that fact gets past the censors, the whole reality-denial project could crumble. So he must be silenced.

(PS by "executed" I mean fired and given a large cash payment which will be legally taken back if he speaks publicly about this issue at all. This is the normal way that Bay Area tech corporations prevent the free flow of information. Could be worse I guess.)

18   socal2   Aug 7, 11:14am     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

iwog says

Antifa is unequivocally NOT LIBERAL. They are shameless anarchists who are fighting for the destruction of government which is exactly the opposite of what liberals want. It is astounding that a group that wants to eliminate government completely is spun by the right wing press into a group that is somehow supported by big government Democrats and it is being done to brainwash people into seeing Democrats every time they witness an Antifa protest.

Anarchism historically has been a branch of Socialism. Virtually all Anarchists are Socialists, but not all Socialists are Anarchists.

Antifa and Liberals are joined a the hip with the various SJW nonsense.

Antifa (like Liberals) think there is a white racist behind every tree and are instrumental in shutting down conservative speakers at college campuses.

Antifa uses violence to shut down Republican events (Portland Parade etc.) but not Democrat events.

So it isn't hard to understand why people rightfully link Antifa to the political Left.

19   Heraclitusstudent   Aug 7, 12:30pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

Excellent comparison with Rome: the work of citizens devalued by slavery. Something I noted earlier.
Who are the slaves now, inside the US? out of the US?

You can still put your "useless class" on drugs, which drug companies are eager to do.

20   Heraclitusstudent   Aug 7, 12:32pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

It's a comparison that rightfully puts us not longer before the republic is overthrown. All we need is a hero/Cesar.

21   someone else   Aug 7, 12:43pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

It's amusing how the left's exaggerated claims of impending fascism are used to impose fascism from the left.

At least I try to be amused!

22   iwog   Aug 7, 1:09pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

socal2 says

Antifa uses violence to shut down Republican events (Portland Parade etc.) but not Democrat events.

I see you deleted my evidence that you're not telling the truth. I wonder why?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/01/25/black-bloc-anarchists-turn-on-obama-with-inaugural-riot/

Antifa is not liberal. Antifa is anti-liberal.

23   socal2   Aug 7, 1:21pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

iwog says

Antifa is not liberal. Antifa is anti-liberal.

You really telling me that Antifa wouldn't be thrilled to have Bernie as President?

From your link:

" the Black Bloc anarchists are closely aligned with the Occupy Wall Street movement."

24   Dan8267   Aug 7, 1:36pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

There are no right wing authoritarians anymore.

Except
- the war on drugs
- anti-decency laws
- domestic spying
- police brutality and murder
- body cavity searches at traffic stops
- routine strip searches and body cavity searches in jails and prisons
- voting being a privilege instead of a right

But other than that, all the authoritarianism is on the left.

Let's face it, the left and the right both suck. Go orthogonal, go liberal.

#GoOrthogonal

25   Dan8267   Aug 7, 1:37pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

iwog says

Antifa is unequivocally NOT LIBERAL.

Calling Antifa liberal is the most dumb ass stupid thing a person can say.

26   Dan8267   Aug 7, 1:39pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

socal2 says

Anarchism historically has been a branch of Socialism.

It is literally impossible for anarchists to be socialists as socialism, by definition, is government.

I was wrong. Calling Antifa liberal isn't the most dumb ass stupid thing a person can say.

27   Dan8267   Aug 7, 1:44pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

The response to the anonymous memo validates what the memo says.

28   TwoScoopsMcGee   Aug 7, 1:56pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Caesar.html

Definitely from the Left side, but everything he writes about Paid Rioters, Assassinations (before Caesar), Theft of Veteran's Lands, Slumlordism, Nepotism, Theft of Government Property, etc. by the "Heroes of the Republic" like Cato and Cicero are historical facts.

29   epitaph   Aug 7, 2:09pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Really great read, stuff I think we all already knew but I'm glad it's being addressed.

30   Dan8267   Aug 7, 2:17pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

A cursory Google -- no pun intended -- search of this memo demonstrates that it's the Red Pill documentary all over again. Every news organization is blatantly lying about the contents of the memo. That proves beyond a doubt which side is wrong.

31   Dan8267   Aug 7, 2:21pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Patrick says

In the memo, which is the personal opinion of a male Google employee

No where in the memo does the author identify his or her gender. Isn't it sexist to presume the gender? It would be hilarious if the author turned out to be a honey badger.

32   Dan8267   Aug 7, 2:29pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

In his defense, the memo writer tried to draw Google a picture, but that didn't work either.

33   iwog   Aug 7, 2:29pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

socal2 says

You really telling me that Antifa wouldn't be thrilled to have Bernie as President?

socal2 says

Antifa uses violence to shut down Republican events (Portland Parade etc.) but not Democrat events.

Are you ready to admit you were wrong before we continue or you just want to duck out of this one? Antifa doesn't want Bernie as president. Antifa doesn't want anyone as president. What part of anarchy + communism do you have trouble with?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/01/25/black-bloc-anarchists-turn-on-obama-with-inaugural-riot/

34   Fucking White Male   Aug 7, 2:36pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Women(and minorities in tech):

I went to one of California's most well known schools for engineering...Cal Poly Pomona.

-ALL of my close friends from high school went there as well and majored in EE. As did family.
-At minimum I am PERFECTLY familiar with the demographics of the engineering programs there.
-At the time I attended(early to mid 90's) there was a sizable black population in Altadena, Pasadena, and Pomona with a smaller population in Monrovia. IOW on demographics alone, there were I'd guess, a black enrollment comprising 10-15% of the campus.
-One black student in the EE major. FUCKING ONE! This despite a Cal State wide, and school specific program to enroll black students into engineering major. Men outnumbered women in the courses by about 20-1
-I was a business major. There were a handful of black students at best. Most of my major specific classes had none, a few had one or two.
-I was first a math major. One of the classes we had to take was FORTRAN. I was dumb enough to take it 3 times before figuring out that I needed to change majors. Not one black student in any of those FORTRAN courses. Men outnumbered women in these courses around 10-1
-I was also a Information Systems minor. Six courses for the minor. A collective 2 black students in those courses. Women and men were equal in numbers.

My total college cost for 5 1/2 years inclusive of books, etc was $5K. About half the price of a low end car at that time(current JC 2 years plus cal state 2 years is about $20K, higher than the cost of a low end car).

Gee I cannot imagine why there are few women and almost no blacks working in tech fields

35   socal2   Aug 7, 2:39pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Ooh - iwog found one example of Antifa rioting against a Democrat.

Antifa is stock full of beta male Bernie Bros.

36   iwog   Aug 7, 2:43pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

socal2 says

Ooh - iwog found one example of Antifa rioting against a Democrat.

It's a massive example. The 2nd Obama inauguration no less and you're going to pretend it means nothing? Do you seek intellectual honesty within your own ethics or do you just abandon them for pride and party every time? Antifa will protest and riot against any government in power. In Europe they have led violent protests against actual Socialists. You don't know what's going on but I'll help you out a little bit.

The group Antifa most resembles to the point where it's difficult to even tell them apart is these guys. Their tactics and rhetoric are almost identical. Guess which side of the political spectrum they hail from? I believe all of them voted for Donald Trump.


37   Fucking White Male   Aug 7, 2:46pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Just as an aside since the term was used earlier in this post.....Authoritarian is socially conservative + fiscally liberal. Absolutely does not describe Trump.

Who it does describe is the city councils in the west coast big cities..Seattle, San Francisco, Santa Monica, Los Angeles....those people think they know what is best for you and I and govern as though it was so.

The most epic example of this was when the LA City Council voted in a law that made it so the police could seize a vehicle of someone SUSPECTED(ie not even arrested or charged) with committing a narcotics, prostitution, or street racing crime. The only recourse would be to argue in a CRIMINAL COURT(you read that correct) where the standard, despite it being a criminal court, is only preponderance of the evidence. http://articles.latimes.com/2004/feb/20/local/me-onthelaw20

CIty of LA at the time had exactly one Republican as a councilperson(Out of I believe 15). Oakland which had the same law...I doubt they had any conservative/republican.

The California Supreme court overturned it, but the intent was clear. Seeing as the Democrat supermajority in the state assembly and senate are contemplating similar laws, I think its very fair to say the authoritarian threat is entirely from the left.

38   Dan8267   Aug 7, 2:49pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

socal2 says

You really telling me that Antifa wouldn't be thrilled to have Bernie as President?

Guilt by association? Well, then, how bad is Trump since he's been officially endorsed by terrorists!

KKK’s official newspaper supports Donald Trump for president

39   iwog   Aug 7, 2:49pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Fucking White Male says

Just as an aside since the term was used earlier in this post.....Authoritarian is socially conservative + fiscally liberal. Absolutely does not describe Trump.

That's not what authoritarian means and I think it's an absurd definition.

Fucking White Male says

Who it does describe is the city councils in the west coast big cities..Seattle, San Francisco, Santa Monica, Los Angeles....those people think they know what is best for you and I and govern as though it was so.

So it looks like you're going to take this fictional definition and run with it, asking questions that arise based on a conclusion with a false premise. Why don't you prove your assumption FIRST then move on afterwards?

40   someone else   Aug 7, 3:01pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says

No where in the memo does the author identify his or her gender. Isn't it sexist to presume the gender? It would be hilarious if the author turned out to be a honey badger.

Lol, bet you $100 the author is male.

Such honey badgers do not exist, at least I have not run across one like that yet.

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