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  • On Thu, 26 Mar 2015, 9:54pm PDT in ER physicians urge action to reduce gun deaths, bob2356 said:

    Call it Crazy says

    Seems the E.R. physicians need a new calculator...

    32,719 Auto fatalities versus 8,454 Firearm murders in 2013...

    Brush up on your reading skills. He said homicides and suicides. That's about 32k a year.

  • On Thu, 26 Mar 2015, 9:11pm PDT in To Answer Iwog's Idiocy, bob2356 said:

    indigenous says

    By definition monopolies require government force to control a market. Otherwise a company cannot price anyone out of the market as some have tried and died, likewise they cannot restrict competition without government force.

    You've never explained which government force allowed De Beers to control 95% of the world diamond market for 100 years. I'm sure you'll dance around the point again.

    To which I responded:

    The flavor of force favored by De Beers is through a cozy deal with the South African government in which all mineral rights are owned by the government and leased to De Beers, even Russia has the same deal with De Beers. BTW since the blood diamond thing De Beers share of the diamond market has gone from 90% to 33%.

    Very funny. So you wiped the floor with this one eh? You really are a legend in your own mind. What exactly was the cozy deal you are talking about with the south african government? What south african government? There was no south african government until 1910. The british and dutch were colonists prior to that fighting 2 major wars with each other and one with the zulu's. Debeers started in 1869 and by 1888 owned all the diamond mines in south africa. In case you are date challenged that's 22 years before a south african government existed. Mineral rights were done on a republic by republic basis prior to 1910. After the formation of the union of south africa in 1910 there was a unification of all the various mineral rights laws of the republics called the land settlement act of 1912. This was overturned in 1917 and all mineral rights went back to the land owners except public lands where the state retained mineral rights. In 1925 the reserved minerals act made state lands the were sold to private owners subject to royalty payments. But not control. The base minerals act of 1942 gave the state the right to assign a third party to prospect if the land owner was not prospecting for minerals of national strategic interest, due to the shortages of WWII. The full value still went to the landowner. After the founding of the republic of south africa in 1961 the the mining rights act of 1967 was passed consolidating all mining legislation but again leaving mineral rights with the land owners except public land. The mineral rights act of 1991 eliminated state rights over former state land that had sold to private ownership.

    So do you care to document what this sweet deal was and when exactly it happened? Na, never happened. Yep you sure "won" that one.

    BTW the blood diamond thing was over 100 years after debeers gained control of the diamond market. Date challenged again I see.

  • On Thu, 26 Mar 2015, 2:19pm PDT in Tax breaks that mainly help the rich, bob2356 said:

    zzyzzx says

    uh. Poor people don't pay taxes.

    Duh, there are people between rich and poor.

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