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  • On 22 Oct 2014 in Just show the damn ID. This was made for Dan., CDon said:

    Dan8267 says

    You have no problem with bold-face lying, do you? Here's what I actually said...

    Dan8267 says

    Yep I made a mistake. I meant to say the police would have booked her rather than arrest her. Contrary to popular belief, I'm not perfect. Occasionally, I err.

    I still stand by that my statement that handcuffing a person is a form of arrest as defined here. And to back that up, New York v. Quarles, supra; United States v. Purry (D.C. Cir. 1976) 545 F.2nd 217, 220.

    Actually, I have a huge problem with baldface lying so I sincerely apologize if you think I was accusing you of that.

    I seriously did not think you were going to rely on Quarles, the landmark Supreme Court public safety case for exceptions to Miranda as being relevant here. That is a pretty extraordinary view.

    You also cite US v. Purry. As you know these cases are very fact specific, and Purry involved shotguns, skimasks, getaway vehicles, tear gas, the works! Putting aside this was in the DC circuit so its only persuasive authority for California (9th) - in what way are the facts of Purry relevant to a person being handcuffed in broad daylight in the middle of Studio City?

    Put another way, how is a woman being handcuffed for alleged prostitution by an assholeish, snarky, bullying cop a "form of arrest" under the maxims set forth in Purry and especially Quarles??? Really???

    I mean, we can get back to the other parts of your view of what happened later, but I simply don't see how someone as anti-law enforcement as you would ever advocate for a case like Quarles as being even persuasive authority. Did you really mean that???

  • On 21 Oct 2014 in Just show the damn ID. This was made for Dan., CDon said:

    Dan8267 says

    Even then, she was arrested, not for having sex in public, but rather for refusing to show ID. So the arrest itself was illegal regardless of any charges made after the fact.

    The arrest itself WAS A CRIME. So she is an innocent victim as far as that arrest is concerned.

    Remember that in the state of California, where this arrest took place, a person is under NO legal obligation to present ID to the police. Period. That's the bottom line.

    The arresting officer should lose his job and be prosecuted for false arrest. If she isn't convicted for lewd behavior, any officer or DA pressing such charges should be arrested as well for filing false charges.

    Please don't start this again Dan. You have again turned yourself around here. Go back to post 94 - you yourself admitted she was NOT arrested.

    After that, please go back and review the caselaw surrounding Terry vs. Ohio. Understand this, and I promise you, all your misunderstandings about what happened back in September when she was legally detained will become much much clearer.

  • On 20 Oct 2014 in American Housing Survey finds 1 in 3 homes is a rental, CDon said:

    Call it Crazy says

    You STILL want to blame the anonymous posters here. For what ever reason, you just can't let go that she based the most important purchase of a lifetime on comments made by a bunch of unknown people...

    While I do feel sad for her, my overriding principle is one of accountability. If you say something, and it is obvious you are not just making a joke or what have you, you should be held to account for it. How many times have you seen a reporter go back and ask some politician why they said X or Y, only to let that interviewee skate away from the question?

    While our motivations are different, in many ways what I am doing here is EXACTLY the same as you continuously and mercilessly taking Iwog to task for gold not dropping to $1,000. Personally, I think you are taking that portion of what he said too far, but overall I applaud what you are doing in keeping people accountable for what they said. We need a lot more of that here.

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