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  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 12:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Quigley says
Your link provided verification rather than refutation

Ahhh no it does not. What verification? Someone's accusations? How does that verify anything? A simple statement by an accuser offers no more proof than does her denial of the accusation.
Please point out what proof that Ahmed Nur Said Elmi is her brother. There is no more proof that they are siblings than we are siblings. Just because I say you are my brother doesn't make it so.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 12:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
If someone tries to kill you, you kill them right back. End of story.

2 wrongs don't make a right. What happened to thou shall not kill? I guess that is why I'm not a fan of Christians they can be such big hippocrates
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 5:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Quigley says
Your link provided verification rather than refutation


Here is another link

https://medium.com/@dbrauer/a-few-thoughts-on-the-ilhan-omar-marriage-story-cc70c4f96c29

I like the quote from Bannon, I guess it was written when he still was with Breitbart
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 7:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
Now you are just trolling


How so? Did you bother to see if there actually was a qoute?

From the link.

There’s an excellent Bloomberg BusinessWeek piece that’s just resurfaced on Donald Trump’s new campaign CEO, Steve Bannon. Bannon runs Breitbart News, but amid all the bigotry and misogyny, he deploys researchers who dig up actual documents and facts. He then passes them on to mainstream sites like the New York Times, understanding that, say, a Hillary Clinton hit is more effective coming from the Times than Breitbart — even filtered through the Times’ MSM standards.

Bannon’s money quote:

“’What you realize hanging out with investigative reporters is that, while they may be personally liberal, they don’t let that get in the way of a good story. And if you bring them a real story built on facts, they’re f — -ing badasses, and they’re fair.’”
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 7:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
What happened to defending yourself?


Which commandment is that?
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 7:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Furthermore if she did actually marry her brother wouldn't there be more on this than way back in 2016.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 7:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

curious2 says
FPBT says
your belifes do not constitute facts


Neither do yours. Worse, when people post actual facts, you persist in counterfactual beliefs. (Please note the correct spelling of beliefs.)


When did I say my beliefs did? When did I dispute actual facts? Sorry if my speeling doesn't meat you're stanedirds, i culd giv a phuck.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 8:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Here is some more from the above link

Today, Omar’s supporters are touting her latest response, and lacerating media racism. Omar IS judged differently. The bigots are more likely to provoke, and more likely to find takers in a majority-culture ignorant of how the Muslim faith works. (This also constrains us from evaluating claims based on faith.) Some is pure circumstance: Omar is from a culture of relatively recent immigrants.

But there are other media-training lessons here. Ad hominem attacks on bigots’ motives — however valid — won’t sway good reporters. Calling a source an Islamphobe or Donald Trump, Jr. may be excellent politics, but it doesn’t suffice as a response. I don’t care who gives me the tip, though I’ll try to characterize my source honestly in my story — if it runs.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 8:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

FortWayne says
911 showed us exactly how their faith works. Actions speak louder than words.


For example, in the Crusades (circa. 1095 to 1270 C. E), Christians killed Muslims in the name of Jesus and Muslims killed Christians in the name of Allah. Is it not a contradiction to Christianity for a Christian to say, in effect, to a Muslim, "I love Jesus but I will kill you"? Similarly, is it not a contradiction to Islam to say, in effect, to a Christian, I love Allah but I will kill you"?

What shocks outsiders of Christianity and Islam, especially atheists and agnostics, is how could men who were dedicated to Jesus and Allah kill each other for religious purposes? No matter what moral and religious justifications may be offered for such killings, they are clearly wrong and deserve categorical and unequivocal condemnation by believers and non-believers alike.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 8:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

curious2 says
FortWayne says
Dan


I miss Dan, who did acknowledge honestly the current differences in behavior between different religions.

FP/FPBT does not.

Also, Dan could spell, unlike FPBT:

FPBT says
a qoute?


FP could spell too, which makes me wonder what has happened.
Maybe there are others who don't fault all for the actions of some
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 9:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

curious2 says
FortWayne says
Dan


I miss Dan, who did acknowledge honestly the current differences in behavior between different religions.

FP/FPBT does not.

Also, Dan could spell, unlike FPBT:

FPBT says
a qoute?


FP could spell too, which makes me wonder what has happened.


I see you must default to personal attacks.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 9:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

curious2 says
I miss Dan, who did acknowledge honestly the current differences in behavior between different religions.


How many American soldiers pray to God before they go into battle? How is every Iraqi killed in Iraq not killed in God we trust?
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 9:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Unfortunately, religious terrorism has been a reality throughout many part of the world. Catholics and Protestants have killed each other in Northern Ireland. Israeli Jews and Palestinian Muslims continue to kill each other in the Holy Land. Orthodox Serbian Christians have fought Catholic Croatians and Bosnian Muslims in Yugoslavia. Hindu Sikhs have fought with Muslims in India. Muslim extremists have killed in the name of Allah in Africa and the Middle East. In short, religion can be used to justify intolerance and murder.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 9:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

For example, radical Christians who gun-down abortion doctors are religious terrorists. They also commit terroristic acts in bombing abortion clinics. Such Christians "fight" for the unborn child’s right to life but they deprive the doctor of his or her right to life. They believe that all human life is sacred but they attack the doctor’s sacredness of life. However, in doing so, Christian extremists are murdering doctors.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 9:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Another example is radical Muslims, such as suicide bombers, believe that they are dying for Allah or God and will be rewarded by him. They believe that what they are doing is right. However, believing something does not make it so. In other words, belief does not create reality. No matter how sincere the suicide bombers’ belief (the subjective factor of the moral act) that they will be rewarded by God, their sincerity does not make the act of killing innocent human beings (the objective factor of the moral act) right. In fact, it is murder!
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 9:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

A criticism of Right-Wing or radical Muslim terrorists should not be construed as a criticism of Islam per se, the religion to which the terrorist belongs. Of course, not all Muslims are terrorists. However, there are Muslims who justify their own beliefs by "proof-texting," that is, wrenching a religious text from its context as a pretext or cover-up to justify terrorism.

Likewise, a criticism of Right-Wing Christians should not be construed as a criticism of Christianity per se. Not all Christians are, theologically and politically, on the far Right. In the words of John Warwick Montgomery, a scholar of international law, "[I]t is hardly fair to attribute to the Christian religion acts or opinions that in fact are in direct opposition to Christ’s own teachings."
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 9:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Just as men and women in positions of government can be morally corrupt, so can members of churches, synagogues and mosques. When that happens, their respective communities need to be purified or corrected, with a change in moral philosophy and leadership. Therefore, religion should not be the major cause of the world’s problems. Rather, it should contribute to peace on earth and good-will toward human beings (cf. Luke 2:14b).
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 10, 11:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
Dates wasn’t something he comprehended.

When 75% of Americans identify with Christianity and Americans drop bombs on Muslim in 2000's that is not in the past. The Muslims think their killing is justified just like you feel our killing is justified. Me I think killing is wrong, just like Jesus Christ does. Heck maybe I'm more Christian than you.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 11, 8:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

How many Indonesians do we see blowing shit up? They idetify 87% as Muslim. I'm not saying Islam is a great religion what I'm saying is that all Muslims aren't bad.

When I was growing up I remember shit getting blown up in Ireland. Was that Muslims? No it wasn't. It was Catholics against Protestants. Does that mean all Catholics or all Protestants are bad?

I find it ironic when a religions states that it is wrong to kill yet people go around killing in the name of their religion weather it be Islam or Christianity.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 11, 8:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

MrMagic says
Nothing...

Close thread.

De Nile ain't just a river in Egypt.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 11, 9:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
When you figure a difference you let us know. Use that brain of yours.


There is no difference when one uses a religion to justify killing. It also doesn't mean all in that religion are bad because of the actions of some. Use that brain of yours.

FPBT says
For example, radical Christians who gun-down abortion doctors are religious terrorists. They also commit terroristic acts in bombing abortion clinics. Such Christians "fight" for the unborn child’s right to life but they deprive the doctor of his or her right to life. They believe that all human life is sacred but they attack the doctor’s sacredness of life. However, in doing so, Christian extremists are murdering doctors.

FPBT says
Another example is radical Muslims, such as suicide bombers, believe that they are dying for Allah or God and will be rewarded by him. They believe that what they are doing is right. However, believing something does not make it so. In other words, belief does not create reality. No matter how sincere the suicide bombers’ belief (the subjective factor of the moral act) that they will be rewarded by God, their sincerity does not make the act of killing innocent human beings (the objective factor of the moral act) right. In fact, it is murder!

FPBT says
A criticism of Right-Wing or radical Muslim terrorists should not be construed as a criticism of Islam per se, the religion to which the terrorist belongs. Of course, not all Muslims are terrorists. However, there are Muslims who justify their own beliefs by "proof-texting," that is, wrenching a religious text from its context as a pretext or cover-up to justify terrorism.

Likewise, a criticism of Right-Wing Christians should not be construed as a criticism of Christianity per se. Not all Christians are, theologically and politically, on the far Right. In the words of John Warwick Montgomery, a scholar of international law, "[I]t is hardly fair to attribute to the Christian religion acts or opinions that in fact are in direct opposition to Christ’s own teachings."
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 12, 5:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

MrMagic says
marcus says
Reality has a well known liberal bias.


Yep, I didn't think you could defend any of your crazy assertions.


What i'd like to know is why didn't the author tell us about line 8? $172,579,474. Contributions and grants. I guess it didn't fit his narrative.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 12, 5:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tenpoundbass says
. I don't think he planned exposing everyone that will end up exposed now.


You mean like Scott Pruitt?
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 12, 5:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
She should be in jail, paying back to donors she scammed.


I thought that was the first order of business for Trump?
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 12, 6:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
Can I sue my neighbor in small claims court for filling the neighborhood with smoke from his fireplace?


Yes you can. Will you win is a different question.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 12, 7:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

MrMagic says
What exactly do you need explained about it?
nothing, now that you pointed out that it was revenue. MisterLefty says
$5.1 MILLION WHICH IS LESS THAN 3% OF TOTAL REVENUES!


But shouldn't we be comparing the $5.1 million with total expenses and not total revenue, since they didn't spend all the revenue?
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 12, 9:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

MrMagic says
That's the WHOLE problem. They DIDN'T spend all the revenues for charitable purposes, but held on to them for more of the scam expenses.

Duh.....

Liberals and math..... Geez....


Well one would have to see the next year's tax return to see what the did with revenue that wasn't spent. If it's not spent it's not an expense. They didn't spend all the revenue period. They didn't spend it on scam expenses or for any other expenses for that matter... At least not in 2014. Basically they didn't spend 49% of the revenue.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 12, 9:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says
In CA if you fart too much, your neighbor will probably sue you for global warming!


Unless one captures the farts and turns them into energy!
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 12, 11:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
Bob using Clinton foundation statement on Clinton foundation site as proof?

Yeah that honor system did wonders for Bernie Madoff.


Actually if you want to see if you hey are legit you could pay for access here

FPBT says
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16680

Four stars from charity navigator!


Go towards the bottom and see IRS data. You can access 990 for 2016 and prove Bob wrong.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 12, 11:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
Bob using Clinton foundation statement on Clinton foundation site as proof?

Yeah that honor system did wonders for Bernie Madoff.


Actually if you want to see if they are legit you could pay for access here

FPBT says
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16680

Four stars from charity navigator!


Go towards the bottom and see IRS data. You can access 990 for 2016 and prove Bob wrong.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 13, 7:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Goes to show Republicans just aren't that smart.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 13, 12:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

MrMagic says
FPBT says
and prove Bob wrong.


That's done on a daily basis here, but he still keeps coming back.


Ok then put your money where your mouth is. Fork out the dough to prove him wrong or STFU.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 13, 12:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

MrMagic says
FortWayne says
Bob using Clinton foundation statement on Clinton foundation site as proof?


Amazing stuff, right??


If the information is wrong then prove it.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 13, 12:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

MrMagic says
Should I go get Big Bird to help explain what that RED arrow is pointing to?


I see you can't stay away from making personal comments.

bob2356 says
duh. Where do people think infowars junkies going to go to read infowars postings?.


If I may, Bob is trying to say that Infowars junkies now only have 1 site to go to so of course it will "explode" with traffic.

And the "duh" part means that anyone who can't understand this is a total dumb fuck.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 13, 12:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Quigley says
Either nut up and declare your love of statism and censorship or agree that it’s wrong no matter which side puts it into practice.
so you are saying I won't be censored if I make comments on Infowars or gateway pundit?

What is the difference between those sites and say Facebook? If people don't like what a site is doing they don't have to go their.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 13, 1:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

ThreeBays says
Similar Websites by Audience Overlap
1. breitbart.com
2. thegatewaypundit.com
3. dailycaller.com
4. wnd.com
5. drudgereport.com

That's hilarious. The Trump storm troopers love them some fake news.


They eat that shit up
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 13, 1:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
They should stop handing out drug needles to drug addicts. Maybe that’ll finally slow down the number of bum addicts.
no, it will just increase what is spent on emergency rooms which you and I will pay in higher health insurance costs.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 13, 1:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

MrMagic says
I would say don't quit your day job. Being an Internet lawyer seems to be a dead end as your career.


Personal comment king! Good thing we got all those moderators to clean this shit up.
  FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 14, 6:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
This must be a lot like Trump and Putin's meetings.
without the strap on.



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