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  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 18, 7:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Tenpoundbass says
What are you paying for rent right now? Why are you angry at Kushner for it?

Own, don't rent, not a problem for me. If I did rent, the cost would be between the landlord and myself and of no concern to you.

Angry at Kushner, heavens no. The more of this stuff that bubbles up from the sewer concerning the Kushners the better. Same for the Trump camp with the "newly sober" Donald Trump Jr.

So if he is newly sober, kind of wonder what the thought process in his not so sober brain before that. Maybe slippery Larry K. can get him to a few 12 step meetings or the other way around and if things really go to hell. at least they will each have a drinking buddy.
Back on Feburary 15th someone posted a thread about poor Jared going into debt to save our bacon from liberals. Any ideas of the originator ?
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 18, 7:19pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Must protect the 2nd amendment, the hell with the 1st as long as we can have guns. Spiffy.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 19, 2:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

theoakman says

Normal Accidents: Living with High-Risk Technologies is a 1984 book by Yale sociologist Charles Perrow, which provides a detailed analysis of complex systems conducted from a social sciences perspective.

It was the first to "propose a framework for characterizing complex technological systems such as air traffic, marine traffic, chemical plants, dams, and especially nuclear power plants according to their riskiness". Perrow says that multiple and unexpected failures are built into society's complex and tightly-coupled systems. Such accidents are unavoidable and cannot be designed around.[1]

Perrow's argument, based on human error, is that big accidents tend to escalate, and technology is not the problem, the organizations are. Each of these principles is still relevant today.

The book shed light on a big problem when it was written and will be more timely with the rollback of regulations in safety etc.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 19, 2:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

When Is Home Equity Debt Deductible?

Last year, credit rating agency TransUnion forecast that 10 million people would take out home equity loans in the four years after the date of its prediction. Among the reasons are that, as home values have surged from the housing collapse, people simply have more to borrow against. Among the things that may slow the process, and the amount of the value of home equity loans nationwide is that banks are still reluctant to allow homeowners to take on more debt, in particular against the value of their homes. It usually takes a strong credit score for a bank to even consider these loans.

The definition of loans which qualify for tax deductions is narrow. According to

For starters, it’s important to understand the concept of “acquisition debt” versus “home equity debt.”

“Acquisition debt is a loan to buy, build, or improve a primary or second home and is secured by the home,” explains Amy Jucoski, a certified financial planner and national planning manager at Abbot Downing.

That phrase “buy, build, or improve” is key. Most original mortgages are acquisition debt, because you’re using the money to buy a house. But money used to build or renovate your home is also considered acquisition debt, since it will likely raise the value of your property.

Home equity debt, however, is something different. “It’s a home equity debt if the proceeds are used for something other than buying, building, or substantially improving a home,” says Jucoski.

This distinction is clear enough so that most people who do their own taxes should understand it, and apply it correctly. Certainly, all tax accounts do.

Homeowners are up against one of the most complicated tax seasons a year. “Home equity” deductions may help tens of thousands of people who can no longer take state and local deductions. That is if people know that the loans really are.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 19, 2:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Criminalizing protest is not the path this country needs to go down given the results it has brought in other countries as history has recorded.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 19, 4:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Another Update from "New Civil Engineer" Magazine/Website.

FDOT has released its own statement clarifying that it had, “at no time, from installation until the collapse of the bridge”, received a request to close the entire highway.

It also said that it was not made aware by FIU’s design and build team of any scheduled “stress testing” of the bridge following installation and has no knowledge or confirmation from FIU’s design build team of “stress testing” occurring since installation.

FDOT has said that had this been the case then the road should have been closed to traffic before any work was carried out.

“Per standard safety procedure, FDOT would issue a permit for partial or full road closure if deemed necessary and requested by the FIU design build team or FIU contracted construction inspector for structural testing,” it said.

UK bridge experts who have spoken to New Civil Engineer have suggested compression failure caued by poor concrete in the top flange could be a cause. The Guardian newspaper has obtained and posted CCTV footage that captures the moment of the collapse which appears to shows the failure beginning in the top flange, close to the central pier.

Full Article:
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 19, 8:29am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

CBOEtrader says
Lol, this is such a left field straw man, all i can do is LOL.

Have fun guys - you all are some of the reasons people left here - actually most of the reasons
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 19, 8:31am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@Patrick - wasn't there a time not so long ago when purposely goading and "triggering" someone was cause for getting a comment deleted ?

What ever happened to that or is this part of new PatNet ?

If you want to increase daily visits - this thread isn't helping.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 5:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

lostand confused says
Wow democrats have now become the party of free trade and globalization!!!

Heraclitusstudent says

Funny to see people on the left defend the trade practices that benefit disproportionately to multinationals and rich people, and swallow their propaganda whole.

BlueSardine says
Of course it won't.
But it's fun to watch the 3 dimensionals bitchslap each other over an ORE... (occams razor event)

The Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania has become a leftist organization now ?
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 6:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

60 Minutes’ Embarrassing Interview with Mohammed bin Salman.

The 60 Minutes interview with Mohammed bin Salman was predictably not very informative and served as little more than a platform for the crown prince to spread propaganda. Perhaps the most egregious failure by 60 Minutes was this summary of what has happened in Yemen:

The United Nations says thousands of civilian deaths in Yemen are the direct result of Saudi airstrikes and a blockade, since lifted, of Yemen’s port that temporarily stopped food and medicine from getting to hundreds of thousands of people.

The interview mostly consisted of letting the crown prince offer up self-serving spin. His arguments for the intervention in Yemen were not countered or put in context, and there was absolutely no pushback on any of his assertions. Consider this exchange:

Norah O’Donnell: Do you acknowledge that it has been a humanitarian catastrophe, 5,000 civilians killed and children starving there?

Mohammed bin Salman: It is truly very painful, and I hope that this militia ceases using the humanitarian situation to their advantage in order to draw sympathy from the international community. They block humanitarian aid in order to create famine and a humanitarian crisis.

It is not surprising that Mohammed bin Salman is trying to shift the blame for the humanitarian crisis to everyone except his government and their allies, but his evasion prompts no relevant follow-up questions or challenges from the interviewer. The coalition has been strangling Yemen for three years.

They have been delaying and diverting ships that were already inspected and found to have no weapons on board. It is the blockade that is primarily responsible for driving more than eight million people to the brink of famine and millions more to suffer from severe malnutrition.

The average viewer tuning would come away from this interview knowing none of that.

Leave aside the crown prince’s stupidity in emphasizing relative Iranian weakness before warning that they are the Nazis of our time, and note that the interviewer fails to point out that it is the Saudi government and its allies that are engaging in an aggressive invasion of a neighboring country.

If this were an interview with the de facto ruler of an adversary, we would not be watching this ridiculous kid gloves treatment of a known war criminal.

There is some news value in interviewing foreign leaders and getting them to explain themselves and their policies publicly. That can be informative, and it can help hold those leaders to account for their actions.

There is no news value in giving a foreign leader a major news program to use as his megaphone to spread misinformation and lies. Unfortunately, 60 Minutes allowed itself to be used in just this way, and in so doing they have done a huge disservice to the American public and especially to the suffering people of Yemen.

  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 6:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Homeowners and appraisers are seeing more eye-to-eye when it comes to home values. Appraised values in February were, on average, just 0.53 percent below homeowner estimates—the fifth consecutive month where the gap between the two groups has been less than 1 percent, according to the National Quicken Loans Home Price Perception Index.

Still, more than three-quarters of metro areas had appraised values that were higher than owner estimates. Dallas owners may be the most upbeat; appraisals there were, on average, 2.72 percent higher than what owners expected.

“The Home Price Perception Index is a perfect example of how localized housing is across the country,” says Bill Banfield, executive vice president of Quicken Loans Capital Markets.

“The fact that appraisals are showing home values nearly 3 percent higher than expected in Dallas, but the average appraisal is lower than the owner estimates by almost 2 percent in Philadelphia, illustrates this to a tee. Dallas is an incredibly hot housing market right now, and appraisers are seeing just how fast home values are climbing.

When shopping for a home—or even refinancing a current mortgage—consumers should always keep the changes in their local market in mind before estimating a home’s value.”
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 6:14am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

15 Years in Iraq: A Shameful Anniversary

On March 19, 2003, America initiated its worst foreign policy blunder since Vietnam. Has anyone learned anything since?

Today marks the 15th anniversary of the most disastrous U.S. foreign policy decision since President Lyndon Johnson’s 1965 escalation in Vietnam: the invasion of Iraq, a military campaign that ended up costing the United States trillions of dollars, killing more than 4,500 U.S. troops, and realigning the Middle East power structure to Iran’s advantage.

Indeed, it is not an exaggeration to argue that the sectarianism, terrorism, and Iranian expansionism that defines today’s Middle East can be traced back to that fateful decision in March 2003.

The Iraq war, in fact, has turned out to be such a calamity that an entire cottage industry has risen up to investigate the invasion, the occupation, and their aftermath.

Dozens of books have been written by war correspondents and heavy hitter journalists like the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward and the Wall Street Journal’s Michael Gordon chronicling the decision-making process in Washington leading up to the conflict and the endless mistakes that occurred during the subsequent insurgency.

The list of errors committed by U.S. officials is so long that one can easily imagine documentary filmmaker Ken Burns tackling the Iraq war as his next public service project for PBS.

We don’t need to reprise all of the hubris, stupidity, and neoconservative babble that helped tear Iraq apart—there is so much material available that it is difficult to determine which mistakes were catastrophic and which were merely devoid of common sense.

Fifteen years removed, it is incredibly difficult to point to anything positive that resulted from Washington’s decision to oust Saddam Hussein from power.

Yes, a tyrant was kicked out of his palace in Baghdad, but the prime ministers who have since taken over have either been grossly unprepared for the job (Ayad al-Alawi); in league with Iranian-sponsored militias (Ibrahim al-Jaafari); intensely paranoid, conspiratorial, and selfish (Nouri al-Maliki); or left with no option but to play the game in the hopes of reforming it (Abadi).

Not even the most diehard proponent of the invasion can argue with a straight face that the Middle East is better off now than it was before 2003, when Saddam Hussein served as a useful bulwark against Iran.

And what about the neoconservatives’ central rationale for the war, that regime change in Iraq would serve as a powerful example for the people of the Middle East to demand democracy and freedom in their own societies?

To state the obvious, those arguments were disproven the moment the Iraqi state itself collapsed.

Has the foreign policy establishment learned the lessons of Iraq?

Not at all, and now some of the same people who trumpeted the war in 2002 and 2003 are being seriously considered for senior national security positions in the Trump administration.

The majority of Americans who are tired of the U.S. military serving as the sheriffs of the Middle East and who pine for realism, restraint, and a little humility in their foreign policy may need to wait a while for the elites to catch up.

  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 6:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

A ‘Stomach-Churning’ Recipe for Endless War.

Steven Cook makes some shockingly bad recommendations for U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East:

For those keeping score at home, Cook wants to send more Americans into at least two wars and possibly more, he wants the U.S. to back more Israeli wars against their neighbors, and he wants the U.S. to do this to make sure that our clients don’t fall into Moscow’s orbit. It’s as if Cook tried to think up the worst possible policies for the U.S. and the worst justification imaginable. If that was the goal, he has succeeded.

Cook says, “If these countries share the broad interests of the United States, then it is important for Washington to support them in word and deed.”

That raises two obvious questions: do these states still share our “broad interests” and does supporting them have to mean giving them carte blanche and indulging all of their worst behavior?

I submit that most of the clients in the region that Cook wants the U.S. to embrace more closely have interests that are increasingly diverging from ours, and their usefulness as clients has also diminished significantly. However, even if they do still share our “broad interests,” it is one thing to “make a commitment to the security of” certain states and quite another to encourage them in their most reckless and destructive behavior. Cook is calling for the U.S. to do the latter.

Current U.S. support for the war on Yemen is already indefensible and harms our security interests. Escalating the U.S. role in Yemen and using our forces to attack a country that our government has already helped to bomb and starve for three years wouldn’t just be a “stomach-churning moral compromise.” It would be absolutely despicable. It would also be foolish and unnecessary.

It is not our government’s responsibility to take over the unnecessary wars that our clients start, and it would be wrong and pointlessly destructive to intensify a conflict that has already caused enormous suffering.

The best way to bail the Saudis out in Yemen is to stop providing military assistance and to pressure them to accept a compromise that allows them to end their intervention before it drags on any longer.

Intensifying U.S. involvement in this war makes no sense for U.S. interests, and it would exacerbate the humanitarian crisis that is already the worst in the world.

The policies Cook recommends are terrible, but the reason he gives for doing these things is even worse. He is claiming that if the U.S. doesn’t do these awful things it will “hand parts of the Middle East over to Moscow.”

That grossly exaggerates Russia’s ability to “take” these parts of the region, and it overrates the importance of the region to the U.S. Suppose for the sake of argument that the U.S. is in danger of “losing” some of these states to Russia’s orbit.

Is that worth sending more Americans to kill and die in wars in Syria and Yemen? How many, and for how long?

Cook would have the U.S. engage in multiple unnecessary wars for the sake of keeping bad clients happy and out of Moscow’s orbit, but the clients simply aren’t worth that much to the U.S. and we should continue to modify our relationships with them accordingly.

  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 6:33am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Groundwater depletion around the West. (It hasn't gotten better since this - article from 2003)

A new report says we're draining our aquifers faster than ever.

People have mined southern Arizona's aquifers for more than a century -- pumping groundwater faster than precipitation can seep back underground to replenish it.

As a result, land in more than a dozen spots has buckled and subsided. It's one of 40 cases of groundwater pumping detailed in a recent U.S. Geological Survey report that shows how people are draining the nation's aquifers, often at accelerating rates.

Between 1900 and 2008, the U.S. has lost enough underground water to fill Lake Erie twice. That volume jumped by 25 percent after 2000.

As the West continues to grow, with ever more people and industries vying for the same shrinking resources, the days of water policies that treat aquifers as infinite resources seem numbered.

"At some point, the problems are going to be more and more frequent in more and more places -- and people may not notice until it's really severe," says Leonard Konikow, the USGS hydrologist who assembled the data. Here are some of the report's highlights (or see the data as a map or graph):

Central Valley, California

Las Vegas Valley, Nevada

Arizona alluvial aquifers

Snake River Plain, Idaho

Denver Basin, Colorado

High Plains (Ogallala)

Image below in article and can be enlarged to show detail.

  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 11:35am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@justme and Fivelbsbrowntrout

Thanks for the comments on the following thread:

Should there be any other of my threads and or comments containing resource links you find useful, it would be prudent to copy and paste those links to your own device for future reference/use.

Such links are based in "ephemerality" due to the nature of the things and I suspect you will be able to figure this all out without me having to spell it out.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 11:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Quigley says
What is absolutely clear is that the most tempting targets for deranged individuals are “soft” targets without defenders.

That is just common sense - malls are probably going to be the next big thing after the next few rounds of wannabes get done at the schools.

Then again look around the tarmacs and infrastructure at most major airports - anyone bent on doing something stupid can have a field day and we have done nothing about it except talk, put up some useless fences with gaping security holes and talk some more.

The real headlines are going to come when someone/some group does something new and exciting that will have not only CNN but every media outlet of every description everywhere - right, left, middle, communist, democratic - you name it talking and oohing and aweing and soul searching.

Kind of suspect something attention grabbing in the vein of 9-11 and anyone that has been following the events of the last few years can pretty much get some ideas of what is coming to the United States.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 11:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

How come no mention of the two recent cases of accidental firearm discharges in the schools where the "good guys" were demonstrating their skills ?
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 11:55am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

socal2 says
Because it was never the goal to steal Iraq's oil.

And how was this war supposed to pay for itself as promised. Seems my memory says it would be the oil revenues. And to think the big oil companies and the U.S. would just let that go on with their cut. Too funny.

socal2 says
America spent billions of dollars and thousands of lives trying to keep the Muslims from killing each other.

This the reason for the invasion ? I never realized Dubya, Rummey, Bolton, Cheney and the rest were such humanitarians.

What was our excuse for Afghanistan ? We went, we saw, we got bogged down and didn't have the sense to pull out like the Russians did and now all these years later it's become a right of passage for young men in the military to take a tour over there just like Dad. Hell, maybe even with Dad !

Can you just picture it, an entire infantry company of Father & Son cannon fodder and what great photo ops that will make. Great campaign stories too about the "sacrifice" being made to keep us safe from (insert appropriate boogey man/excuse here) and we might have "Mission Accomplished" in say 15-20 more years, maybe or at best one or two more generations of cannon fodder or however long some politician or party or defense contractors can milk the thing for their own gain.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 2:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
How about a link to the "promise"?

How about trying to do some research ?
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 2:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Just wanted to point out to those who thought foreign policy was better in Hostile Hillary's Hands.

At what point anywhere has anyone including myself mentioned Hillary ?

Maybe time to let Hillary go and stick with Trump won but then Potus can't give up on her either.

Hillary is as corrupt as Dubya, Trump and the rest.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 2:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

socal2 says
Yet we are going to risk war, billions of dollars and thousands of lives to swipe Iraq's oil?

Beats going out drilling for something with unkown results now doesn't it ?

socal2 says
we had total control, we developed their Constitution, helped pick their candidates, set up voting systems and trained their security and military apparatus.

"Total Control" - the U.S. never had "control" - only the perception of such things.

socal2 says
Our purpose in Afghanistan was to deny Al Qaeda a base of operation to train and attack western targets

And the purpose now for our presence after all these years ? We are getting bled dry financially year after year, they are still around and moving pretty much at free will whenever they fell like it - just like before - just like when the Russians were there.

Is the next one we defeated ISIS who simply packed up their shit and moved to Southeast Asia? They are doing quite well thank you and will make their presence known over and over and over and over and over for years to come.

While ISIS is doing that in Southeast Asia - we will continue to piss away money and lives using tactics that didn't work for us in Vietnam, the MIddle East, Afghanistan etc. while lying to the American Public we are saving them from being attacked.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 2:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
The Media can't either. Tell the #MSM to stop quoting her in the papers and on TV with her hatred for half the country, and all the married women, and the Russians. And the kids who didn't vote. the Single Women who netflixed and wined thinking it was in the bag (lovely blowback from her MSM Cheerleaders) etc. etc. etc.

Trump has to keep bringing her up because someone else does ?
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 2:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
More corrupt than Trump, she's been at it far longer.

That's a good one for an office pool or Vegas.

Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the most corrupt of them all ?
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 2:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

socal2 says
could use another half dozen in SoCal ASAP

Not happening. As soon as the ratepayers see their bills - their will be public lynching's.

Then again those bills are coming down the path eventually. The time is fast approaching where a gallon of water will cost more than a gallon of gas and I'm not talking bottled water either.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 2:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Like Texas?

Texas is not Nirvana in every corner of the state and for every family. Spent more than my fair share of time there to know that.

The best part of Texas for me was always the sign that said "You are leaving" along the Interstate or seeing the ground drop away as the plane took off.

Of course I also had this feeling leaving other areas of "enlightenment" or rather the lack of it which coincidently were all pro-Trump.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 2:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Don't really give a rat's patootie anymore why someone keeps bringing her up - she needs to go away - permanently.

I would rather listen to Dubya which is a major milestone for me and he is not exactly brightest bulb in the package.

The very last thing we need in this country right now is another war for another "noble" cause to fight another "boogeyman" that is coming to get us when we have enough home grown boogeyman to do the job.

Maybe try to get realistic just one time - just once with striking a balance between tax cuts, revenue intake and what we can or can not get accomplished without lining the pockets of some inept fucks.

That would be nice and give another generation a war free opportunity in their teens, 20s and 30s.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 5:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

socal2 says
To believe that Republicans and oil companies were too scared and risk adverse to try and develop our own energy resources but were cool going half a world away and start wars over oil is idiotic IMO.

Drilling a well is an expensive proposition with no grantee of a return on the investment. Why would a corporation want to tie up their capital drilling holes in the ground when they can have someone else tie up their capital and when the game is done, turn over the spoils just because.

Of course those bribes (campaign contributions, secretive kickbacks, insider trading information etc.) doesn't hurt one bit either.

Errc has already outlined the scenario quite eloquently.

On a side note refineries etc. are loaded and dependent on 2nd and 3rd party entities to run "utilities" that are essential to their operation. Those "utilities" are some of the same ones most people would consider as a "utility" and many the guy on the street would not consider a "utility".

The reason - the 2nd and 3rd party whatever, puts up their capital, builds the unit, takes the risk, guarantees operability and on stream performance, suffers financial penalty for failing to meet contract terms and the host corporation has not invested a dime of their capital and can do whatever else they want with it.

Same thing for the oil and refining/transportation facilities in the Middle East and elsewhere. Let the U.S. taxpayers foot the bill, take risk, lose the lives, get the bad rap, deny involvement - win win for everyone inside the loop so to speak.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 5:32pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Tell the MSM to stop giving airtime to her sore loser rants. Don't blame the audience for laughing when the crazy comedienne says crazy things.

Like someone else who is frequently in the news I make full use of my mute button or other options to avoid prolonged contact. For the good of the country she needs to go back to her digs in upstate New York or wherever and play Martha Stewart.

Take care of the grandkid - something - anything.

The woman is as annoying as the Kardashians and has about as much to offer as well.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 5:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Must fight Russia with every Breath!!

Russia is not going to be the problem in the Middle East. It will be China.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 11:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Quigley says
Truly enlightened discourse!

Heraclitusstudent says
Nah, I was talking about you.

On the first quote doing my best to play along with everyone else - am I getting it down now ?.Needs some polishing I I will continue to work on this.

On the second comment - might be surprised at the entire "package" of beliefs since it doesn't fit a standard label. Quite able to get behind a lot of things provided they are done for sound reasoning, a risk vs. reward analysis has been done (more than once) and boring things like that before making a response to an event or set of circumstances.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 11:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
Saudi Arabia was, and is, the greatest sponsor of terrorism in the world. We should have attacked them instead.

We can do it financially and with embargos, better yet stop fighting their wars for them. Maybe time to go bail out Venezuela, closer to home nad potentially far less problems down the road.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 11:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Soo, how's that research going? Any results yet?

No idea, not doing any at least on the Iraq War courtesy of Dubya and company. I am quite busy on other on research covering a few other areas. though. Perhaps I will post on them sometime down the road and then maybe not, at least not here.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 20, 11:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says
It's the growing of lettuce and grapes in the quasi-desert.

It's the growing of a lot of things in a desert that will eventually go back to being a desert that would be better served to be grown elsewhere in the country however this will not happen until the water runs out or the political influence of those growing the stuff runs out.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 21, 2:03am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@Patrick. Took my thread down on the same topic with the same source. Didn't see yours.

Here is the "memo" referenced in the article:
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 21, 6:37am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

From the article: “The wall could pay for itself even if it only modestly reduced illegal crossings and drug smuggling,” Steven A. Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies.

The "Center for Immigration Studies" was founded by white nationalist activist John Tanton, "a retired Michigan ophthalmologist who openly embraces eugenics and a fondness for extreme “population control” measures.

someone else says
But the biggest benefit is that US wages to our poorest citizens would go up

Wages have barely gone up for anyone since the late 1970s so this is going to be the magic panacea to get employers to give up a larger share of the profits in the form of better wages and benefits ?

Anyone notice on the Lego box from Booger's post "Warning, Choking Hazard, Small Parts, Not For Children Under Three Years Old" was strategically placed near Trump's hands ?

Then again it could be a reference to another part of Trump's anatomy and it didn't specify Three Years Old as mental ability of physical age.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 21, 6:42am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

While we are building walls, other will be digging tunnels.

bob2356 says
It's all a big show to fire up the base, including building a wall. The last thing in the world corporations want is effective enforcement of illegals.

This is exactly the desired intent. Fire up the base, ignore everything else including reality.

For all the American jobs for American workers with good pay and benefits the "base" more so than most will not be able to afford what comes with that reality, even at Wal-Mart but as long as the sound bite and photo op keep things fired up - it's a go in the finest tradition of the Cariier deal.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 21, 6:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

bob2356 says
The steel producers are the ones crying they need tariffs.

Just like Harley claimed they were being victimized by foreign competition when the reality was a self inflicted wound of bad to shitty management which by the way is the same situation the country's steel producers suffer from.

The steel producers want the tariffs so they won't have to pay money to upgrade facilities or get decent management yet the steel users are the ones who going to pay for the tariffs in terms of lost jobs.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 21, 6:51am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Here's a novel idea - how about we cut the "corporate welfare" in all of it's various forms, get a sliver of financial responsibility and accountability going at the Pentagon, put an end to the 5 wars we are currently engaged in, administration officials stop blaming their wives for over the top expensive purchases, - maybe just some plain old fashioned responsibility and accountability in fiscal matters all the way around from the Federal Government all the way down to the smallest city/town.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 21, 6:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

bob2356 says
When trump actually does something praiseworthy I'll be first in line

Here here ! I second that thought and will be right behind you ! Given the current state of things however there will be no rush to get in line.
  Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Mar 21, 7:00am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Called Facebook a data mining company from the start with no redeeming qualities and of course had to endure the wrath of those enamored with it and it's many wonderful qualities which were going to make life better for everyone and keep us "connected".

Social Media in and of itself is something that should be avoided at all costs in addition to Google and other companies.

The less exposure you have to technology other than for the necessary - the better.