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  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 15, 3:58am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
What a total fucking joke. A 1 paragraph post on a blog? Nothing else? It's true because I say it's true.
Tax rates in other countries are no secret. But instead of whining, post a link with contrary information.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 15, 5:00am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

bob2356 says
That's why it's called compensation package not salary.
But now Uncle Sam pays the benefit. Poof!

Uncle Sam: The new single payer plan signed into law by President Sanders provides a boost to both consumers, in the form of an average $5,000 raise, but also to employers, who see a more improved bottom line.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 15, 3:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

LeonDurham says
Companies no longer send YOUR money to the insurance company so they obviously send it to YOU instead.
If it is your money, than surely the employer will turn it over to you if you ask. Wanna bet on the odds?
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 15, 4:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
Average employer premium last year was 18,000 according to NCSL. That's money you don't get paid. You contribution isn't the total cost of the plan. plus you kick in on top of that out of pocket.
I think you should read your own links. As previously posted, for an average family, employee pays roughly 1/3, employer 2/3. So employer's contribution is $18k-minus employee's contribution, which is around $12k. Why is it that the empty barrels always make the most noise?

The 2016 KFF survey looked at annual average employer contributions to health insurance:

For single plans, employers paid 82% of premiums ($5,306)
For family plans, employers paid 71% of premiums ($12,865)
Employees paid the remaining 18% ($1,129) for single plans and 29% ($5,277) for family plans.

https://www.kff.org/health-costs/press-release/premiums-for-employer-sponsored-family-health-coverage-rise-slowly-for-sixth-straight-year-up-3-but-averaging-18764-in-2017/
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 15, 4:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Heraclitusstudent says
"Health care spending per person is expected to surpass $10,000 in 2016 and then march steadily higher to $14,944 in 2023."
To be a bit more honest, and accurate, for those covered by the employer:

The 2016 KFF survey looked at annual average employer contributions to health insurance:

For single plans, employers paid 82% of premiums ($5,306)
For family plans, employers paid 71% of premiums ($12,865)
Employees paid the remaining 18% ($1,129) for single plans and 29% ($5,277) for family plans.

https://www.kff.org/health-costs/press-release/premiums-for-employer-sponsored-family-health-coverage-rise-slowly-for-sixth-straight-year-up-3-but-averaging-18764-in-2017/
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 15, 4:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
Comparing nominal tax rates instead of effective tax rates is useless.
In France, I'd be paying 17% more income tax, and there seems to be some sort of pesky wealth tax there, too. But it is true that unbiased analyses are rare, France provides broader social services than healthcare, etc. It is possible that taxes will go up if the USA adopted single payer, and that higher income folks would pay more than they do under employer sponsored plans, and out-of-pocket continue to increase, a la Medicare. But even exchange costs under Obamacare are less as a percentage for higher earners.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 15, 4:25pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
This is why most gainfully employed people dont realize the extent of the problem. Try pricing out an Obamacare policy without a subsidy. Prices are absurd.
Indeed and that data is available, too.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 15, 4:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

RecentCost says
Yeah, if rent were cheaper all of the junkies and those with severe mental illnesses would magically become productive members of society.
You don't think in some areas, junkies and the mentally disabled can afford a shitty room somewhere?
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 16, 5:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
Averages in healthcare are a flawed measure of normal.
Indeed. And if you want to look at employee costs for healthcare as a percent of income (a tax), $5,000 on $60k earnings is 8.3%, but only 1.67% of $300,000. And likewise, if that cost goes away, a better tax cut, percentage-wise, for the lower earner. The unknown is where the resulting balance will reset under socialized medicine. Will that 1.67% go up to 6% or greater? And don't doubt that there would not still be out-of-pocket expenses under socialized medicine, as there are under Medicare. Even in the UK, one can buy supplemental insurance.

But I do think it is disingenuous to flatly state that everyone will pay less, that the employer will return their contribution to the employees its "their money', etc. Inflexible rigidity on the part of liberals, associated with TDS, means they lose again and again.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 16, 5:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Also, the USA is still leading the world in pharma and biotech, a relatively clean and high-paying industry. Someone must pay, and it is disproportionately US citizens versus socialized medicine countries that do. Will implementing socialized medicine in the USA cause a rise in prices around the world? Will it continue the trend of an ascendant Chiner in this field? And will Bernie get elected on 2020?
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 16, 6:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

LeonDurham says
I said that for sure some number of people will pay more, but the overall cost to Americans will be 1/2 of what it is now.
I doubt that you'd find any bona fide analysis to back up your POV. You can of course assume the costs will be similar to costs in EU countries with socialized medicine, i.e., 1/2, but that analysis is very simplistic, and leaves out other possible costs, e.g., increased taxes, etc.

Please consider that socialized medicine was even a third rail issue to Hillary and the Democrat party in general. Bernie was an outsider, and you saw what happened to him.

If this becomes a presidential campaign issue, here is the rhetoric against:

Higher taxes.
Longer wait times.
Death panels!
Look at the UK.
Illegal alien magnet.
Work harder, deadbeats.

For:

Much lower cost.
More money in your paycheck.
No more medical bankruptcies.
More competitive businesses.
Hand it over, fat cats.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 16, 12:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Quigley says
Most of those criminals are citizens.
Citizen privilege!
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 17, 5:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

George W. Bush - our first "intellectually disabled" president.

  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 17, 5:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The correlation between rising home prices and homelessness is undeniable. Kill the bankers.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 17, 6:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
Reagan? Really?
He has the blood of AIDS fatalities on his hands.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 18, 5:07pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Suzanne Somers has more credibility and better jugs.

  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 19, 2:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Hank Paulson made quite a bit of money milking this cow, and Pelosi sucked his dong for a mere curtsy by Hank. The sad fact is that the bankers run the USA, and the sheeples' representatives voted for a major criminal, Paulson, to head up the Treasury Department, after his reign of fraud at Goldman Sachs, leading to the Pelosi BJ and rescue of AIG so that gamblers could be paid by taxpayers. Slimy Obama, a few months into his first term, with absolute zero investigation of Wall Street fraud, proclaimed on his first Leno show appearance that the banks had committed no crimes. The only way out is to kill the bankers.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 19, 4:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
How come none of these teacher's nudes ever leak? Just out of curiousity.
Some of our best men are working on it. The Arabs will pay anything for exclusives.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 19, 6:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Asians can complain about it and not be accused of racism. Whitey, not so much.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 20, 3:09am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The only good pizza in the USA is in New Jersey/New Yawk. It's the petrochemicals in the water.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 20, 3:10am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Far oot, aye.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 20, 3:13am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
Yes, and this is actually federal law: no institution which discriminates on race may receive federal funding.


All schools practicing affirmative action or diversity would lose federal funding. I wonder if there would be a legal basis to a class action lawsuit by those who were discriminated against based upon race.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 20, 2:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
!. Paulson was appointed by what president? Hint rhymes with tush (as in asshole).
Yes, W Bush nominated Pauslon, but both Democrat and Republicans voted to confirm Paulson.

bob2356 says
AIG bailout nov 2008, when was Obama's inauguration date?
The architects of the AIG bailout were Ben Bernanke and Tim Geithner, head of the NY Fed. And Obama was so disgusted with Geithner's shameless bankster fellating, that he nominated him to head up the US Treasury.

But Geithner is the epitome of the inside swamp dweller, a toadie bankster suck-up who was well-loved by both Democrats Obummer, as well as Bill Clinton, and Republicans like W Bush.

And under Obama, Geithner was responsible for such amazing policies like paying the bonuses to the same AIG fuck-ups who bankrupted the company.

Obama did not want to wind up like Kennedy, plus selling out pays a lot better.

  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 20, 3:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Librul dimwit poster objects when economics is described as a pseudo science.

  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 22, 3:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
Humans will not be satisfied until there is nothing left to destroy
Probably an infinite number of planets out there.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 22, 3:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

"Lock her up!"
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 22, 4:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Only good service when needing to do lines.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 22, 4:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

And policies like affirmative action allow liberals and closet racists to practice back-door discrimination against the white debils, whilst getting the rush without the guilt. Of course, now we'll need affirmative action for those who were discriminated against by affirmative action.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 22, 3:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

More arms for the revolution, capitalist running dogs!

  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 22, 5:25pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

When will Elizabeth Holmes do porn? Americans deserve to know now!
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 22, 6:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Esos son grandes melones!
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 23, 4:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I forget if it was Ulysses S. Grant or Teddy Roosevelt who lamented the Indians becoming pathetic beggars after their way of life was obliterated.
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 23, 9:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I think Lisa Bloom would be fun.

  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 23, 12:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

This is how Frank Jordan cleaned up Art Agnos' homeless mess in The Beautiful City by the Bay back in the day, I tell ya.

  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 24, 4:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
It also discretely avoided any overt expression of racism or white supremacism.
And also avoided any overt expression of Marxism, Buddhism, nihilism, as well as any references to Marvel comics characters. Hmmmmm......
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 24, 5:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Lock and load, junior!!!
  MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 24, 7:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

C'mon, SJW's. It's bullying. Where you all at?



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