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  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 4, 9:46am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

"Kremlin hack of GOP e-mails proves Trump-Putin collusion" -CNN
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 4, 9:50am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Toll Brothers Slumps Most Since May After Home Orders Plunge.

Toll Brothers Inc. reported its first drop in orders since 2014, led by a big falloff in California demand, a sign that high-end property markets are cooling. Shares slumped.

The luxury-home builder’s fiscal fourth-quarter results, announced Tuesday, included a decline in orders of 13 percent from a year earlier. The average estimate from analysts was for an increase of 5 percent.

Toll Brothers is heavily focused in segments and geographies that are cooling -- high-end homes and California, specifically. In California, which is facing an affordability crisis and a decline in foreign demand, orders fell 39 percent.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 4, 1:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Killing a witness is a crime but Bill is not guilty just because right wingers say that ( just like Pizzagate) . If you have enough proof present it ( and not just because Alex Jones says so)

OK, if you insist.... I know it's just a coincidence.... right?

1 – James McDougal – Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

5 – C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992… Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor.”

7- Ed Willey – Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fundraising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21- Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives and Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.


28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died stabbed 113 times, November 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes.”

34 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

35 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 – Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37 – Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 – Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 – Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 – Major General William Robertson 41 – Col. William Densberger 42 – Col. Robert Kelly 43 – Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 – Steve Willis 45 – Robert Williams 46 – Conway LeBleu 47 – Todd McKeehan

48 -World-renowned “space economist” Molly Macauly was brutally murdered in Baltimore park.

49-John Ashe- The former President of the UN General Assembly was awaiting trial on bribery charges when he turned up dead in June, apparently having crushed his own windpipe while lifting weights in his home…

50-Victor Thorn-Prominent CLINTON Critic VICTOR THORN Found Dead Of Apparent Suicide On His Birthday

51-Seth Rich-Still No Clues in Murder of DNC’s Seth Rich, As Conspiracy Theories Thicken

52- Joe Montano-Filipino American activist and aide to Sen. Kaine, dies at 47

53-Shawn Lucas-Death of DNC Lawsuit Processor Shawn Lucas Adds to Seth Rich Conspiracy Theories

54-Seth Rich-Family’s private investigator: There is evidence Seth Rich had contact with WikiLeaks prior to death

55-Klaus Eberwein Found Dead Before Testifying Against Clinton Foundation in HAITI COVERUP

56-Man who sought Clinton’s emails from Russian hackers committed suicide

Oh, and for extra points:

Dr. Dean Lorich, an acclaimed trauma surgeon who famously criticized Bill and Hillary Clinton’s relief efforts in Haiti, was found dead in his New York City apartment.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 4, 1:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Defend your point and not go in the weeds.

So, what does Rachel Maddow have to say about that list?
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 4, 7:13pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HappyGilmore says

“The mob takes the Fifth Amendment. If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Trump said at a campaign rally in Iowa

That's before the Democrats did their dog and pony show and character assassination on Kavanaugh, with zero evidence. Why should Stone do anything for those assholes?

....""Rather than engage in hair splitting and frivolous arguments regarding semantics, Mr. Stone has challenged Congressman Schiff to provide any evidence he has that Mr. Stone had advance knowledge of the source or content of the WikiLeaks disclosures including any allegedly hacked or allegedly stolen emails ultimately published by Wikileaks," Smith said."

He's going to let the Democrats hang themselves first, before he says anything.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 4, 7:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Seriously, this is a good argument for gun ownership.

Yep, and saves the tax payers a ton of money and removes a useless eater from the planet!

...."McLaughlin had been in and out of the Pickens County jail about a dozen times on charges ranging from drug possession to assaulting a police officer to shoplifting.

He was currently awaiting trial on first-degree burglary and grand larceny charges, according to sheriff's office records."
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 4, 7:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

SunnyvaleCA says
Well, that's just it. If you had leased it you would have had a new vehicle every 2 or 3 years.

I could have financed it for 2 or 3 years if I wanted to. Would of had even more equity in it compared to leasing, which would have been 0 equity after that time. Investing the money, instead of paying cash, paid for the finance charges, so it's like getting a zero percent deal when buying a new appliance.

SunnyvaleCA says
Instead, you're driving a 5 year old vehicle.

So what, it's like brand new. I just put the first set of replacement tires and brakes on it. Zero repair issues, just normal oil and filter changes.

SunnyvaleCA says
That said, I am driving a 10 year old vehicle and like it just fine.

That's my plan too, right now, I have no need for a new vehicle and this truck does everything I need it to do.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 4, 7:55pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Well, talk about backtracking... I thought this was a slam-dunk, proven Russian collusion arrest. Gee, maybe Mueller really DOESN'T have shit..

Citing 'substantial assistance' to probe, Mueller recommends no prison time for former Trump adviser Michael Flynn.

Special counsel Robert Mueller is recommending no prison time for retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, citing the former national security adviser’s “substantial assistance” in his ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

“Given the defendant’s substantial assistance and other considerations set forth,” the special counsel wrote, “a sentence at the low end of the guideline range—including a sentence that does not impose a term of incarceration—is appropriate and warranted.”

(Translation, we didn't get shit from him that warrants incarceration or proves collusion, and instead, we're going to get reamed for it)
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 5, 7:25am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Herdingcats says
MrMagic says
So, what does Rachel Maddow

Does someone have a thing for Rachel Maddie?

Hubba hubba

That's Tim's pipeline to the most accurate and factual reporting of news on Trump available today!

Wonder why he hasn't reported back on that Hillary/Bill hit list.... Hmmmm...
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 5, 7:36am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

adarmiento says
Now they are saying Trump took bribes from Russia during his campaign (ie, Trump Tower in Moscow), the problem is that the US Code states that the bribe has to be made to an appointed or nominated official.

That's the part that's so laughable, and the CNN, WaPo and MSNBC followers are so breathlessly waiting for impeachment, because Trump was looking a real estate deals in Russia. Trump was doing in January 2016 the same thing as all the other 15+ candidates (Senators, Governors, Businessman) that were running. Attending to his business, as he had no idea if he was going to be the winning candidate at that time, and if he didn't win, he would have just gone back to his regular job, just like all the other candidates did when they lost.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 5, 6:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Evan F. says
I doubt she's either pissed or terrified.

True, she's not pissed... it's just her "normal" face..

We are so lucky she isn't sitting in the W.H.!
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 6, 12:25pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump: "Can we get out of here, I've got trade deals to work on and some tweets to send".

Melania: "I hope I make it to the Mall in time for the Sales today".

Obama: "I'm still the most wonderful and the prettiest one in the room".

Michelle: "What's on the lunch menu, it better be lobster or I'll be pissed".

Bill: "What does Michelle look like naked, and I'm wondering if she really has a penis?"

Hillary: "What the fuck... I'm still not President!!!!!!!!!".
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 6, 7:41pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I hadn't noticed:

  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 6, 7:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
My feeling is that the declines in SF Bay Area housing will continue for a few years at least.

So, when are you buying?
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 6, 7:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

They have no regrets because they're always stoned on legal pot, and only worry about their Cheetos stash.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 7, 3:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
In the last photo of the OP, has tech not come far enough with wireless mic technology? For fucks sake, looks like she's got a shoebox under the back of her shirt/dress.

That technology is called a IFB, so they can hear the producer. It's not a wireless mic.

  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 8, 8:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
That said, she was a capable administrator with a good team and would have done much better than the Dotard who seems lost as a president.


Care to share with us all her wonderful accomplishments with her good team as Sec of State and Senator of NY?

I'm sure that's a really long list, right?
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 11, 8:53am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
Most of us are bots and so can't attend in person, but maybe someone can hire crisis actors to simulate the drama that is PatNet. Pay close attention to their arms, that's always the tell.

Ha ha ha ha Ha ha

That one was great!!!!!

Also, pay close attention to the water bottles, they always give clues!
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 11, 8:56am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CL says
Anyone ever do a Solo

I do.

But sometimes, it's always a difficult choice which color.

  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 11, 2:24pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
Obama: the only president that didn't grow the government:

Yep, he didn't grow much of anything else positive either..

Not the economy

Not jobs

Not incomes

But, he did a bang up job DOUBLING the national debt.

Should we give him a cookie for that?
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 11, 2:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rbirchtree says


Was it all a ruse and a set up with the meeting?
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 12, 8:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
When he took office, the deficit for 2009 was projected to be $1.4 trillion. The deficit at the end of 2014 will be $514 billion, That's a nearly $1 trillion reduction in five years.

I guess we'll just ignore the years in between, right?

As the OP shows.... TDS, it's real!
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 12, 8:39pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
just three percent of GDP.

Hmmm, speaking of 3% GDP, that's a hell of job O'bozo did growing it, right?

  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 12, 8:43pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
First of all, this line depends entirely on voters not understanding the difference between the deficit and the debt.

Since you mentioned debt. O'boz wins again!!

  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 12, 8:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Food Stamps and Unemployment Benefits.

Thought you'd never ask:

  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 12, 8:51pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
The president promised to cut the deficit in half. He's doubled it!" No. No he hasn't.

No he hasn't?? Must be using Marcus math:

Looks more like doubled to me than cut in half.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 14, 7:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

APHAman says
TPB I agree with accessibility. However, left is arguing for universal healthcare, universal always ends in utter failure and death. Just listen to Bernie Sanders and millions of leftist followers. What he proposes destroys all incentive in healthcare to make it affordable or to even provide it. It simply becomes unaffordable for the country. Even CA, a very left leaning state, failed to pass universal healthcare, because we'd be broke in a few short years.

Lolol holy shit, someone should start a thread, How fucking retarded are right wing morons? They gotta be so fucking stupid to buy into all the nonsense they ape. Holy shit

Buzzzz....... Wrong...

Your boy, Bernie, tried to implement Universal Healthcare in his home state of Vermont. What they found out was either they had to raise taxes like +20% to pay for it, or find money and get bailed out by the rest of the country.

Some great plan, right? It collapsed into a heap of burning rubble...

If Bernie implemented Universal Healthcare in the country, what OTHER country would he go to for bail out. Or, he would just jack up taxes in the country the same amount.

That's winning... Amirite?
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 14, 8:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

APHAman says
Show some data that proves your point

The charts and data have been stuck in front of your face for over a year. We can't help you if you won't open your eyes.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 14, 8:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
Debt is slavery and this kind of debt shouldn’t exist. Americans can’t be productive consumers with “the price of admission to the workforce” hanging over their heads the rest of their lives.


The government needs to protect stupid people from themselves... you know, the ones that don't know how to use a calculator.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 14, 7:45pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

APHAman says
So what y’all are saying is we have to do away with Medicare?

Medicare IS NOT universal healthcare. Why am I not surprised that you don't know the difference...

LastMan says
I implied that it would let someone die because they can't pay. Tell me, what does someone do who can't afford to pay?

They get life supporting treatment at a hospital, like they always have. That hasn't changed.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 14, 7:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
You don't see Republicans going after a lot of things because so many at the top are guilty of all sorts of shit just like top democrats.

  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 14, 7:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
I think high school students qualify as “stupid people” considering we give them zero courses in economics or personal finance before encouraging them to dive deeply into debt to someday (hopefully) obtain their dream job.

True, they definitely need s course explaining how bad taking on that debt is.

Quigley says
We shouldn’t allow corporations and institutions to take advantage of the naivety of youth to enslave the next generation and each successive one.

We don't. That's why there's this thing called "their parents". You do know many parents sign on to Parent Plus loans for their kids. What do you propose we do about the financially illiterate and stupid parents?

MegaForce says
Except they signed up for it voluntarily. Can't claim it is slavery in this case.

But, but , but the banks just gave me the money.... sounds a lot like the last housing blow up, doesn't it?
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 15, 11:58am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ThreeBays says
Did you miss the part where the it's the GOP & Trump tax changes that made it unconstitutional?

Oops... nope..

The original unconstitutional part was when Roberts ruled that the individual mandate was a tax.

The GOP corrected that error, and the judge just ruled accurately.

APHAman says
So first you require that we dismantle the horrific Republican Socialism Failure that is Medicare,

Is that the same thing you say about the failure know as your homeowners insurance, car insurance, life insurance, etc.?
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 15, 3:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
What changed?

You've been Un-Grubered....

  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 16, 3:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
Lab is now 18 months.

Whoa, did not looks at the dates. Did not know it was from Xmas 2017.

Ha Ha

That's correct, he's 18 months now, and still here. Had a couple of instances where a one-way ride to the Korean restaurant was possibly in the cards, but he managed to skate past it. He's actually developing into a pretty solid creature and accomplishing a lot with the different training classes.

Ceffer says
and to the rest of you dogs.

I second that. Another early Merry Christmas to all you mutts and dogs. Hope Santa is good to you!

Merry Christmas from the pup too!

  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 16, 3:16pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Carnival. All you need to know.

Out of all the different cruise lines we've been on, Carnival is definitely the most fun, not to mention, the most "entertaining", watching the other guests.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 16, 6:15pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Waiting for Marcus to show up in 5, 4, 3, 2,.... to tell us he's worth every dollar of that pension.
  MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 16, 6:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee citizens the right to own whatever weapons they choose.

Interesting. I do not know, but in 1820, a time when the writers and original interpreters of the Constitution were still around, was a common person allowed to own a cannon? They were allowed to be Privateers, owning fully equipped warships.

They were able to own the same equipment the government owned back then.

Today, not so much....

The Housing Trap
You're being set up to spend your life paying off a debt you don't need to take on, for a house that costs far more than it should. The conspirators are all around you, smiling to lure you in, carefully choosing their words and watching your reactions as they push your buttons, anxiously waiting for the moment when you sign the papers that will trap you and guarantee their payoff. Don't be just another victim of the housing market. Use this book to defend your freedom and defeat their schemes. You can win the game, but first you have to learn how to play it.
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