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Patrick   2017 Oct 7, 4:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
OK, what about it?
Patrick   2017 Oct 7, 5:43pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Thanks curious2. Very frustrating that KSA is immune from criticism by mainstream media and politicians.
Patrick   2017 Oct 8, 10:00am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Just sayin that it's not a good sign when some category of infidel can simply be erased from public discourse. It's a sign of things to come, and people of intellectual courage should be protesting and organizing boycotts on behalf of the banned Nazis. Yes, you read that right.

The ACLU did have the courage to do it back in 1977:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

We seem to have lost our principles since then.
Patrick   2017 Oct 8, 3:10pm   ↑ like (6)   ↑ dislike (6)     quote        
I think the VP was right to do it, even if planned.
Patrick   2017 Oct 8, 3:40pm   ↑ like (7)   ↑ dislike (7)     quote        
The unity of the country is at stake when the media is 24/7 about identity politics of various divisive subgroups.

We will die as a country without unity.

No unity, no United States.
Patrick   2017 Oct 8, 3:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
joeyjojojunior says
Would you feel the same if ISIS wanted to march in San Francisco?


ISIS advocates murder of all unbelievers who refuse to submit, exactly as Islam teaches them to do.

The Daily Stormer was explicitly opposed to violence:

We here at the Daily Stormer are opposed to violence. We seek revolution through the education of the masses. When the information is available to the people, systemic change will be inevitable and unavoidable.
Anyone suggesting or promoting violence in the comments section will be immediately banned, permanently.


You may question their sincerity in that disclaimer, but the ticket to discussion should be condemnation of violence, and they possessed that ticket, and yet were shut down anyway.

If so-called moderate Muslims want to publicly march in San Francisco, I would actually defend their right to do so given that they publicly renounced violence.
Patrick   2017 Oct 8, 3:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Lol, I met Marissa Mayer once. Maybe it rubbed off. (Not physically, damn. She's pretty hot imho.)

I want newcomers to patrick.net to understand it very quickly. I think that's a weak point at the moment, so making titles behave in the conventional way seems like an improvement.

anonymous says
With this change, aren't you more likely to divorce the comment section from the content of the article?

It's pretty clear that many (most) of your high volume commenters do not read any further than the headline before they flame away in the comment section. With this change, won't you make that tendency worse?


I'm hoping it actually gets people to read the external link a bit before commenting.

Also considering removing post author names from post lists in the hopes that people will not be so quick to rush to judgement based on what they "know" about that user.
Patrick   2017 Oct 8, 3:57pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Sure, lost a boatload on Polycom years ago. Various other failures linger in my portfolio. Fortunately, they are more than offset by the winners. Here are the biggest failures I still hold, just out of spite at my own stupidity:

BGFV
DSW
QCOM
GPS
GWW
Patrick   2017 Oct 8, 8:15pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Yes, I can pick and choose by whether the group is violent or not.

Antifa is violent. Therefore they should be banned.
Patrick   2017 Oct 9, 10:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Thanks for telling me! Did you get an email saying it was marked uncivil?
Patrick   2017 Oct 9, 8:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Yup, seems about 10 rounds per second:
Patrick   2017 Oct 9, 8:07pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Again, about 10 rounds per second:
Patrick   2017 Oct 9, 8:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Not perfectly spaced though. Makes me think it's not military equipment, which I would expect would be higher precision.
Patrick   2017 Oct 9, 8:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Everyone has the right to their own political opinions, but that doesn't mean that everyone has the right to abuse their employer's resources to express them.
Patrick   2017 Oct 9, 9:10pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
anonymous says
The question thus is must YOU tolerate all info - no matter how despicable and repugnant you may find it - or may you exercise discretion and pick and choose what info you allow on your site?


I may pick and choose because I don't have any significant market share, sadly.

Now if I had a near monopoly over forums, or was an organized group of megacorporations synchronizing their blocking of DNS records (godaddy), search (google), and hosting (cloudflare) then it would be de-facto censorship if I were to pick and choose who gets heard, based on politics.
Patrick   2017 Oct 9, 9:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Yes, that would not be hard. Thanks for the idea!
Patrick   2017 Oct 9, 9:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Never said she deserved her money. I definitely deserve at least $540 million if she does.

I stand by my assertion that she's hot though. Or was.
Patrick   2017 Oct 9, 9:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
It's still available, in the footer, broken into 3 parts:

10 reasons it's a terrible time to buy
8 groups who lie about the housing market
37 bogus arguments about housing

But yes, hoping to make the site more about specific topics instead of continuous flame war, and housing should be one of the top 3.

Looking for people who want to be moderators for a given hashtag (topic). Moderators will have:

moderation power for comments and posts for their topic
ability to whilelist or blacklist users for their topics
ability to free comments in their topics from comment jail
ability to upload a css stylesheet to be used for their topic
a donation link (paypal, patreon, or bitcoin)

also thinking they should be able to appoint deputy moderators
Patrick   2017 Oct 10, 6:54am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
joeyjojojunior says
The title of your post is about Nazis. I don't believe Nazis are advocates of peace.


The particular website claims to be non violent.

The point is that we have a few corporations dictating what we are and are not allowed to read, and they have significant power in that regard.

That's not a good thing. How would you feel if there were a coordinated blackout of news about BLM by corporations?
Patrick   2017 Oct 10, 6:56am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Google is a near-monopoly, and the others are not too far behind.

When in actual fact they become monopolies and are telling you what you may not read, will you be concerned? Or not, because after all, they can choose to lose you as a customer ... to nobody?
Patrick   2017 Oct 10, 7:13am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
I answered the question: when you are nowhere near a monopoly.

To have powerful corporations colluding to suppress content is also wrong.
Patrick   2017 Oct 10, 8:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Got to the city for work and it reeks of smoke.
Patrick   2017 Oct 10, 3:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Heraclitusstudent says


Holy crap. Had no idea it was that bad.
Patrick   2017 Oct 10, 6:11pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
CoC = Chamber of Commerce

Appropriate.
Patrick   2017 Oct 10, 7:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
anonymous says
Anyway - to carry your answer to the logical extreme of my sterilization hypothetical, is it fair to state your position as:

When an entity is at or near monopoly power it MUST accommodate all ideas, even if those ideas/info are potentially destructive to civilization itself. Is this correct?


Ideally, there would be no near-monopolies in the media.

But if there are, they should be bound to present all non-violent sides without political discrimination. Remember the "equal time" doctrine?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule
Patrick   2017 Oct 10, 7:21pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
This is another good reason to support my plan to create a city with good jobs up at Klamath:

https://patrick.net/post/1310664?offset=0#comment-1446089
No fires there.
Patrick   2017 Oct 10, 8:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
anonymous says
Ok - so per the all ideas deserve equal time rule - the Paul Erlich contemporaries who openly advocate for someone to spike our water supply with "temporary sterilants" to deprive anyone from having children deserve as much a voice as anyone else. Correct?


All nonviolent ideas deserve at least a hearing, so sure, even Paul Erlich should be heard.
Patrick   2017 Oct 10, 8:11pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
They need to be earthquake-proof as well. So maybe not brick and tile.
Patrick   2017 Oct 10, 8:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
I suppose it's a kind of poisoning, which is somewhat like violence. But if we assume the effect is temporary and harmless, maybe not.

Anyway, my principle is that nonviolent ideas do not deserve censorship.
Patrick   2017 Oct 11, 7:03am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
What do you mean? Trump has not tried to censor anything.
Patrick   2017 Oct 11, 9:30am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
What you do on your own time should not be used against you at work. But when you are at work, you should just work like you are being paid to.

But none of that has anything to do with the censorship of minority views which corporations are imposing lately.
Patrick   2017 Oct 11, 7:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Where-fires-burning-Northern-California-Napa-where-12264391.php
Some cool footage on that page, including a guy driving through the fires.
Patrick   2017 Oct 11, 9:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
I agree with most of those points @joshuatrio

Just can't cope with really hot weather though.

Where is that Irish pub with the good food?

TV and news out here is definitely completely one sided.
Patrick   2017 Oct 11, 9:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
joeyjojojunior says
Patrick says
What you do on your own time should not be used against you at work. But when you are at work, you should just work like you are being paid to.

But none of that has anything to do with the censorship of minority views which corporations are imposing lately.


So you're 100% behind Google for firing the engineer that wrote the internal memo then, right?


He was writing about his own working conditions, not some irrelevant agenda from outside. Nor was he showing any disrespect to the country or abusing his employer's resources.
Patrick   2017 Oct 11, 9:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
By Union Square? I like them too.
Patrick   2017 Oct 12, 8:11am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
anonymous says
"Patrick either you think businesses can fire employees for conduct that they deem harms their image or they can't. You're trying to have it both ways


Not at all. I'm saying that corporations should not have the ability to fire or discriminate based on political activity while not at work. There is already a California law to that effect, but not enforced.

Google may have the the right to fire Damore, but you're ignoring the fact that his memo was about his own working conditions, not an attempt to abuse his position to publicly promote a certain unrelated agenda. That's quite a bit different from NFL players essentially stealing highly valuable media time to promote an agenda that has nothing to do with their own working conditions. Is Kaepernick forced to sit in the back of the bus?
Patrick   2017 Oct 12, 8:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
At work, yes, unless he has some compliant about his job.
Patrick   2017 Oct 13, 7:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
KimJongUn says
anonymous says
Davaite tovarishi uberaites na yug - tab v alabame takiye nizkiye nalogi, vasha babushka kotoraya ne odnova dnya ne rabotala v america i poluchayet posobiye budet vstrechena ka osvoboditelnitsa!


Wow, Patrick, you're moving up in this world: they've assigned a second Russian operative to your forum. This one, unfortunately, can't write in English and is unable to switch on Cyrillic keyboard on his device....So it's more like 1.5 Russian operatives. Nonetheless, still a progress.


Hmmm, Google translate cannot deal with it. Anyone know enough Russian to translate? No doubt just spam.

I can recognize the words comrade, grandmother, work, but that's about it.

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