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PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Aug 30, 8:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

The West in general is losing ground. The elites are moping up while the working class is on the hook for not just personal debt but national debts as well!

Debt: Use it Wisely, Fiscal Monitor, October 2016 - IMF
International Monetary Fund | October 2016 63
Table A1. Advanced Economies: General Government Overall Balance, 2007–21
(Percent of GDP)
2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021
Australia 1.5 –1.1 –4.6 –5.1 –4.5 –3.5 –2.8 –2.9 –2.8 –2.9 –2.5 –1.7 –0.8 –0.2 0.0
Austria –3.9 –3.9 –5.3 –4.4 –2.6 –2.2 –1.3 –2.7 –1.2 –1.6 –1.5 –1.1 –1.0 –0.8 –0.7
Belgium 0.1 –1.1 –5.4 –4.0 –4.1 –4.2 –3.0 –3.1 –2.6 –2.7 –2.2 –2.0 –2.2 –2.3 –2.4
Canada 1.8 0.2 –3.9 –4.7 –3.3 –2.5 –1.9 –0.5 –1.3 –2.5 –2.3 –2.0 –1.6 –1.2 –0.9
Cyprus1 3.3 0.9 –5.5 –4.8 –5.7 –5.8 –4.4 –0.2 –1.4 –0.5 –0.6 –0.5 –0.1 –0.1 –0.1
Czech Republic –0.7 –2.1 –5.5 –4.4 –2.7 –3.9 –1.2 –1.9 –0.4 –0.6 –0.6 –0.4 –0.4 –0.4 –0.5
Denmark 5.0 3.2 –2.8 –2.7 –2.1 –3.5 –1.1 1.5 –1.7 –0.9 –1.9 –1.7 –1.5 –1.3 –1.1
Estonia 2.4 –2.9 –1.9 0.2 1.0 –0.4 –0.3 0.7 0.4 0.2 0.2 0.1 –0.1 –0.1 –0.2
Finland 5.1 4.2 –2.5 –2.6 –1.0 –2.2 –2.6 –3.2 –2.7 –2.4 –2.4 –2.0 –1.5 –1.1 –0.6
France –2.5 –3.2 –7.2 –6.8 –5.1 –4.8 –4.0 –4.0 –3.5 –3.3 –3.0 –2.7 –2.1 –1.5 –1.0
Germany 0.2 –0.2 –3.2 –4.2 –1.0 0.0 –0.2 0.3 0.7 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.4 0.5 0.6
Greece –6.7 –10.2 –15.2 –11.2 –10.2 –6.5 –3.5 –4.1 –3.1 –3.4 –2.7 –1.7 –1.7 –2.0 –2.6
Hong Kong SAR 7.3 0.1 1.7 4.1 3.8 3.1 1.0 3.6 0.6 1.5 1.5 0.9 1.2 2.1 2.1
Iceland 4.9 –13.1 –9.7 –9.8 –5.6 –3.7 –1.8 –0.1 –0.5 14.7 0.5 0.6 1.1 0.7 1.1
Ireland1 0.3 –7.0 –13.8 –32.1 –12.6 –8.0 –5.7 –3.7 –1.9 –0.7 –0.5 –0.3 –0.1 0.2 0.4
Israel –0.6 –2.7 –5.6 –4.1 –3.4 –5.0 –4.2 –3.4 –3.1 –3.4 –3.9 –3.9 –3.9 –3.9 –3.9
Italy –1.5 –2.7 –5.3 –4.2 –3.5 –2.9 –2.9 –3.0 –2.6 –2.5 –2.2 –1.3 –0.5 –0.1 0.0
Japan –2.1 –4.1 –10.4 –9.3 –9.8 –8.8 –8.6 –6.2 –5.2 –5.2 –5.1 –4.4 –3.9 –3.2 –3.1
Korea 2.2 1.5 0.0 1.5 1.7 1.6 0.6 0.4 0.3 0.8 1.1 1.6 2.1 2.2 2.3
Latvia 0.6 –3.2 –7.0 –6.5 –3.1 0.1 –0.6 –1.7 –1.8 –1.2 –1.2 –0.1 –0.4 –0.5 –0.5
Lithuania –1.0 –3.3 –9.3 –6.9 –8.9 –3.1 –2.6 –0.7 –0.2 –0.3 –0.5 –0.5 –0.5 –0.5 –0.5
Luxembourg 4.2 3.4 –0.7 –0.7 0.5 0.3 0.8 1.7 1.3 1.2 0.0 –0.1 –0.3 –0.3 –0.3
Malta –2.3 –4.2 –3.3 –3.2 –2.6 –3.6 –2.6 –2.0 –1.5 –0.8 –0.7 –0.6 –0.5 –0.5 –0.5
Netherlands 0.2 0.2 –5.4 –5.0 –4.3 –3.9 –2.4 –2.3 –1.9 –1.1 –0.7 –0.4 –0.2 0.0 0.2
New Zealand 3.2 1.3 –1.7 –5.9 –5.4 –1.8 –1.0 –0.3 –0.2 –0.4 –0.3 0.0 0.6 0.9 0.9
Norway 17.0 18.5 10.3 10.9 13.2 13.5 10.5 8.4 5.5 3.0 3.2 3.5 3.6 3.5 3.5
Portugal –3.0 –3.8 –9.8 –11.2 –7.4 –5.7 –4.8 –7.2 –4.4 –3.0 –3.0 –2.9 –2.9 –2.9 –2.9
Singapore 10.1 6.1 0.0 6.0 8.7 7.9 6.7 5.5 2.6 2.4 2.4 2.5 2.9 2.8 3.2
Slovak Republic –1.9 –2.3 –7.9 –7.5 –4.1 –4.3 –2.7 –2.7 –3.0 –2.3 –2.2 –2.0 –1.9 –1.9 –1.9
Slovenia 0.3 –0.3 –5.4 –5.2 –5.5 –3.1 –13.9 –5.8 –3.3 –2.3 –2.3 –2.4 –2.6 –2.7 –2.8
Spain1 2.0 –4.4 –11.0 –9.4 –9.6 –10.4 –6.9 –5.9 –5.1 –4.5 –3.1 –2.7 –2.3 –2.2 –2.1
Sweden 3.3 2.0 –0.7 0.0 –0.1 –0.9 –1.3 –1.5 0.0 –0.4 –0.7 –0.4 0.1 0.3 0.3
Switzerland 1.6 1.8 0.6 0.3 0.5 0.0 –0.2 –0.2 –0.2 –0.3 –0.3 –0.2 –0.2 –0.2 0.0
United Kingdom –2.9 –4.9 –10.5 –9.5 –7.6 –7.7 –5.7 –5.6 –4.2 –3.3 –2.7 –2.2 –1.1 –0.7 –0.7
United States2 –2.9 –6.7 –13.1 –10.9 –9.6 –7.9 –4.4 –4.2 –3.5 –4.1 –3.7 –3.3 –3.5 –3.6 –3.7
Average –1.2 –3.5 –8.8 –7.7 –6.3 –5.5 –3.7 –3.3 –2.8 –3.0 –2.8 –2.3 –2.1 –2.0 –2.0
Euro Area –0.6 –2.2 –6.3 –6.2 –4.2 –3.7 –3.0 –2.6 –2.1 –2.0 –1.7 –1.4 –1.0 –0.7 –0.6
G7 –2.1 –4.5 –10.0 –8.8 –7.4 –6.4 –4.4 –3.8 –3.2 –3.6 –3.3 –2.8 –2.6 –2.5 –2.5
G20 Advanced –1.8 –4.2 –9.5 –8.3 –7.0 –6.0 –4.1 –3.6 –3.0 –3.4 –3.1 –2.6 –2.4 –2.2 –2.2
Source: IMF staff estimates and projections. Projections are based on staff assessment of current policies (see Fiscal Policy Assumptions in text).
Note: For country-specific details, see Data and Conventions in text, and Table B.
1
Data include financial sector support. For Cyprus, 2014 and 2015 balances exclude financial sector support.
2
For cross-country comparability, expenditure and fiscal balances of the United States are adjusted to exclude the imputed interest on unfunded pension liabilities and the imputed compensation of employees,
which are counted as expenditures under the 2008 System of National Accounts (2008 SNA) adopted by the United States, but not in countries that have not yet adopted the 2008 SNA. Data for the United States
in this table may thus differ from data published by the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 1, 5:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

under orders of his pupputmasters
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 3, 6:41pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

North Korea is all hot air. The would not dare attack the US or our allies. The threat is a phantom threat made by a guy with nothing to gain and everything to lose by actually using his weapons. The world media is creating hysteria over nothing but saber rattling. Gee that's a nice saber Kimfuck. To bad you don't have the balls to use it. You are never going to be anything more than a punk with a bad haircut. Kim wouldn't dare attack. Now, if Kim was dead, all bets are off. We should consider some reverse psychology here and tell Kim how great he is and and how glad we are his people are finally safe from western oppression.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 3, 6:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

mell says
Bellingham Bill says
iwog says
If you think the Nazi movement was "deeply rooted in socialism", why don't you fucking prove it? Support your assertion for a change! Pretend you're in high school and the entire class is going to laugh at you unless you give arguments and examples.




https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/03/13/leftists_become_incandescent_when_reminded_of_the_socialist_roots_in_nazism_121913.html

The above linked article pretty much sums it up nicely.


That doesn't fit the newspeak narrative. The powers that be are attempting to rewrite history. In their "reality" anything that does not support the narrative must be demonized. The usual scapegoats are conservatives, Christians, and white people in general.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 3, 7:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Nukes are not necessary if all we want is to take out the little leader. Send in every drone we have and they would find him. But I don't see how killing the bad haircut boy helps anything. If Kimfuck is dead, the military of NK might just take over and start a real war.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 3, 7:07pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Dan8267 says
@Patrick, you got rid of ban. Tolls being ignored can still comment on the author's thread. Ignore is a worthless function. We need ban.


I disagree, it is so much better to just hit ignore and remove all the noise from the excess posters (spammers). A reasonable adult is capable of ignoring trolls. Patnet doesn't need to cater to the safe space crowd.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 3, 8:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Strategist says
Our friend Jazz only reads anti American trash, which is why he is


... anti- American
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 3, 8:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Strategist says

The devil we don't know cannot be worse than the devil we know...Kimfuck the third.


kimfuck may be NK's Sadam. that can of worms should not be opened by US. let china deal with their minion.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 4, 6:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Patrick says
marcus says
The biggest question is why are some people so ready to be moved by irrelevant noise from the extremes of the other political side, as an excuse to NOT talk about issues that matter. Instead of talking about global warming, energy, corporate income taxes or debating what our countries foreign policy should be,


Maybe the goal of the media is actually to divide us all with stupid partisan shit precisely so that we do not talk about issues that really matter.

I would not put it past the oligarchy to have this agenda, and the means to carry it out.


And this is exactly why threads like this are pure bullshit wastes of time. The truth is Demcrats and Republicans have been co-opted by the oligarchs to perpetuate their continued and more extreme domination of people who are not only clueless about how they are being taken advantage of by the very people who claim to "represent" them in government but that these government officials are almost all bought and paid for by the oligarchs themselves. The myth that my blue tribe or red tribe is better than the other political side of the aisle is just a bullshit farce that hides the fact that both sides are complicit in the policies and travesties that INSURE the oligarchs maintain their power and wealth while the rest of us are fighting over the scraps and distracted by partisan bickering.

There is enough wealth and resources in the nation and even in the world as a whole to insure every person has quality housing, quality food, quality time for family and proper exercise, quality health care, clean energy etc...

But the powers that be don't want to share and are forcing an increasing percentage of us (near majority) to be completely dependent on them. That is they way they want it, they want us all to come crawling to them.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 4, 6:41pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

ban
noun: official forbiddance
synonyms: boycott censorship embargo injunction prohibition refusal restriction interdiction limitation proscription stoppage suppression taboo a thou-shalt-not don't

I love the fact that on Patnet the above are used very sparingly and the snowflakes can't hide in a safe zone but rather must be held accountable by the other users for what they say by allowing anyone to respond in a civil manner like people do in a civilized world. The ban was always a bad idea and the ultimate form of incivility. Ignore is the epitome of civility on the other hand, allowing the children and the immature throw their tantrums and allowing us the civil people of Patnet to not respond to their idiocy or stoop to their level. This isn't a court room or a church service. It is a website for the exchange of ideas free from censorship. It is one of the last hold outs in an age of increasing censorship, intolerance and opposition of true free thinkers. Thank you for bringing back ignore and retiring the ban.

I liken it to this, suppose the KKK had a rally and the media didn't cover it. Hardly anyone would notice and therefore there would be no disturbance. Just let the racists have their puny rally and then be on their way. Suppose black lives matter had a march and the media didn't cover it it. Hardly anyone would notice and therefore there would be no disturbance. Just let the racists have their puny rally and then be on their way. Ignorance is bliss in these cases. There is NO NEED TO BAN people or comments just because you disagree with them, even if they are vile and hateful comments. Just ignore them. Or shun them with a strongly worded civil comment if you must virtue signal, but banning is not the answer. Tolerance is.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 4, 6:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Dan8267 says
Real reform of the immigration process would entail the following.
1. Deportation of all illegal immigrants.
2. Illegal immigrants get put in the back of the line behind all the legal immigrants.
3. Reducing the time required to become a U.S. citizen to at most two weeks. We live in the Information Age. There is nothing the government cannot vet that it cannot vet within two weeks.
4. Honest, publicly decided caps on immigration including caps on Mexican immigration specifically.
5. Honest, publicly decided education, language, and skill standards for immigration.


This sounds about exactly like what Trump campaigned on. Glad you finally caught up with the rest of the Trump nation.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 4, 6:49pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Dan8267 says
And again, if America needs to absorb 20% or more of the Mexican population because Mexico is such a clusterfuck shithole failed state, then the U.S. should simply take over that state, effectively uniting most of the North American continent into a single economic zone. The Mexicans who don't want to become Americans can move to the south of Mexico, and the amount of land Mexico gets to keep will be proportional to the population that stays Mexican.


Good idea, and make the division in a narrow part of the Mexican mainland so that the border wall can be shorter in length and save on costs.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 4, 6:51pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says
joeyjojojunior says
Nice strawman. What exactly does it have to do with DACA?


What are you talking about?

This is exactly the issue. Are unlimited numbers of poor unskilled illegal aliens allow free entry, or not?

Certainly our corporate masters would love it if wages were driven to starvation level for poorer American citizens through unlimited free immigration for illegals.

Using children to support illegal immigration is the using children to support oligarchs' interests.


Well said Patrick, I don't know why people don't understand that DACA exploits the very people it claims to help. And in the end everyone (in the working class that is) pays for it in higher taxes, lower wages, and decreased social stability due to the lack of rule of law and proper integration into society of the immigrant population.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 4, 7:01pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
Fucking White Male says
Don't worry, there will be another Left wing created Trump based hysteria next week. It's what leftists do.


Just fyi--special counsel was appointed by a Republican. House Investigation is led by a Republican. Senate investigation is led by a Republican.

No leftists in sight.


Republican establishment hates Trump more than Hilary. Ask the Bush's who they voted for.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 5, 6:22pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Right about here...
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 5, 6:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says
If you're not shooting by now, you're DEAD!

You're adorable.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 6, 6:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Dan8267 says
Patrick says
I'm certain iwog is not gay, but he may indeed hate Trump regardless of what he does.


I'm pretty sure Iwog hates Trump because of what he does.


I'm pretty sure Iwog hates Trump because haters gonna hate.

PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 6, 6:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Ceffer says
global warming nutters


These normal climate deniers are ignoring all the facts and peer reviewed research that the temperature of the hot air from Al Gore's ass has actually decreased since he installed the bidet in his mansion.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 6, 6:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        



Well America, you chose not to let Bill and I to bring rapists back to the White House so I wrote this book to profit from all the idiots who worship us. My goal is to outsell that guy who stole the election from me. No, I don't mean Donald, I mean the election in 2008.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 6, 8:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Dan8267 says

iwog says


People are heavily a product of their times



Yes, including Hitler. The conditions that made a fuhrer possible were not created by Hitler. They were created by the allies after WWI. But even if we forgave Hitler for being a little murderous shit because he lived in a time that shaped him into that, do we really have to look up to him as a hero?



If Hitler had a part in making the world a better place despite his flaws then yes, he is worthy of admiration. (NOTE: He did not make the world a better place and he is not worthy of admiration).

On the other hand George Washington and Thomas Jefferson DID make the world a better place despite their flaws, and they ARE worthy of admiration.

It is you who are attempting to whitewash history by demonizing men for their flaws rather than recognizing the important influence they had on making the world a better place.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 6, 9:15pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Strategist says
Why can't Muslims just live in peace like everyone else?

PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 15, 6:02am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Dan8267 says
deepcgi says
I’m not a gun guy, but I am an insatiable advocate of individual rights and personal liberty.


Why would the freedom to possess machines that fling mass projectiles be any more an individual right or personal liberty than the freedom to possess machines that split Uranium atoms or machines that invade human cells and alter their DNA in lethal ways? We certainly do not allow the latter two, so why the former?


Don't be daft.

Devices that hurl projectiles have recreational and self defense purposes when possessed by an individual. They have been safely used for such purposes by the overwhelming majority of civilian owners since their invention. A responsible user can safely deploy these weapons without threatening the safety of others.

The uranium splitting machines are not practical for recreational or self defense use by individuals. They cannot safely be used for recreational or self defense purposes on the continental United States without threatening the safety of others.

Your reasoning is flawed by years of corrupt programming and self induced Taylor Swifting.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 15, 6:08am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Dan8267 says
Cowardice has never been sexy.


Dan has a lot of personal experience in not being sexy, so I take his word on the subject as reliable in this instance.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 15, 2:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Joey,

You want to talk about the second amendment? Are you for it? Why do you hold this position? Do you think it means the people have the right to bear nuclear arms? Is that why your panties are in a bunch? If you want to have a conversation you need to actually present some dialog not just more daft questions.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 15, 9:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Dan8267 says
PeopleUnited says
Devices that hurl projectiles have recreational and self defense purposes when possessed by an individual.


Dan8267 says
Pot has recreational purposes. That does not make it a right.




PeopleUnited says
Ok, and your point is?



Dan8267 says
As for self-defense, guns are worthless against the government, and fighting the government was the SOLE purpose of the Second Amendment. You need nukes to fight a nuclear power. So your entire analysis is wrong.



PeopleUnited says
You are saying that the whole point of the second amendment was that people have the right to fight the government? You are crazy and dangerous. You should be on some kind of watch list. You are advocating treason.



Dan8267 says
Furthermore, every person is safer in a society that has few or no guns than in a society that is well-armed. This has been proved by the Australian example and by western Europe.



PeopleUnited says
No, these "examples" are irrelevant to your argument that the purpose of the second amendment was to give citizens the weapons to wage war on the government. You said so yourself. And now you want to argue a different point. You don't even have a coherent discussion.



Dan8267 says
Finally, you still haven't addressed all the other arms that individuals are not allowed to possess like land mines, grenades, flame throwers, etc., all of which can be used for home defense.


PeopleUnited says
Some of the above could possibly be used safely to defend oneself without endangering the innocent but land mines are not on that list.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 15, 9:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

joeyjojojunior says
PeopleUnited says
You want to talk about the second amendment? Are you for it? Why do you hold this position? Do you think it means the people have the right to bear nuclear arms? Is that why your panties are in a bunch? If you want to have a conversation you need to actually present some dialog not just more daft questions.


Do I want to talk about it? Yes, I think it's relevant to the discussion.
Am I for it? Not really important.



So in other words you are unwilling to answer your own question.

Pretty lame.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 16, 9:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says
I can't sift through five pages of political hyperbole trying to find something reasonable to comment on. If this continues, I'm going to find a different forum.


Oh please. You'll be back. You're hooked like a junkie with a pocketful of cash. I dare you to leave. You can't. It's the rush of it you can't quit. You have nothing better to do and no better place to go.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 16, 9:09pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

nyc says
Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us all.


This AI is relentless. What is the true agenda here? It appears to be some kind of cyber psyop.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 17, 7:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

errc says
PeopleUnited says
nyc says
Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us all.


This AI is relentless. What is the true agenda here? It appears to be some kind of cyber psyop.


S/he is making Republicans very uncomfortable with all these truths. I can see why Patrick would ban him


I actually see this as more of a small government bot. That is the ideology it is promoting. And republicans lean way more towards small government than democrats. But this bot is attacking both republican and democrats equally from my perspective. It is just that the bot tends to appeal more to people who think government is too big. The bot doesn't like any law that restricts freedom. What you don't see is that democrats seek to restrict freedom as much if not more than republicans. The bot is quite good at pointing out that those of us who are not in the 1% elites who control every, actually have more in common than not, and that the liberal identity politics is being used to divide and distract us while the elites continue to use us and enrich themselves.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 7:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Now that the real trolls are gone, any discussion on the association between Islam and violence?
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 13, 9:25pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

http://abcnews.go.com/US/man-removes-nazi-swastika-tattoos-friendship/story?id=49496501
Evidence that friendship between supposed enemies is the real solution to identity politics.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 13, 9:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
PeopleUnited says
Now that the real trolls are gone, any discussion on the association between Islam and violence?


The Quran. The Quran is the most misogynist, racist, and brutal text ever produced as a rule set for a religion. It allows for the killing of infidels, the stoning of women, and the enslavement of conquered people and unlike Christianity it never had its 2.0 version, just the original and brutal 1.0 version that is the origin of all Violent Islamic ideology. The Western world and Islam are incompatible.


True Christianity is to follow Christ. Look at what He did and emulate it.

True Islam is to follow Mohammed. Look at he did and emulate it.

Following Jesus means to live a life of sacrifice and service to others with a focus on healing.

What can we say about what it means to follow the example of Mohammed?
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 13, 9:41pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says
mell says
the high and mighty want the average joes on both sides to fight amongst themselves while they guide us into our new lives as serfs.


Absolutely.

We fight, and they run off with the ball.


This is why Patnet is more relevant than ever. Patrick, you have a place where "they" don't control the narrative. Nearly every other media outlet has conformed to the will of the elites. But here everyone has a voice, even those we disagree with (as long as they can express their views in a civil fashion).
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 13, 9:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Patrick says
It definitely did devolve into a less useful site because of all the insults being flung about, and because it's mostly not about housing now.

I actually toured open houses over the weekend, and may finally buy something if I can do it with zero debt. So I'll probably be writing more about housing in the coming months.



Congratulations, I hope it works out for you. I look forward to hearing more about your experiences.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 13, 9:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

@tovarichpeter (comrade peter) says: http://patrick.net/post/1311869/2017-11-13-should-the-ar-15-be-in-civilian-hands
Hitler, Mohammed and Stalin might ask: if civilians should be allowed to have hands on their arms. Or should they even be allowed to have hands?
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 5:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

For "people like you" they have convinced you that the lowest liberal atheist is better than the best Christian Conservative. So you don't care they are picking your pockets either, in fact you empty them gladly for Clinton, Gore, or whoever represents their movement. You have become your own enemy, and the very person you seek to denounce in your quotation of LBJ.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 5:11am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

I liked Iwog's investment advice. It had nothing to do with his polarizing nature which was by and large his ego and politics.
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 5:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

The "In 2012, only 322 people were murdered with any kind of rifle, F.B.I. data shows. https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/sunday-review/the-assault-weapon-myth.html

"David M. Kennedy, the director of the Center for Crime Prevention and Control at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, argues that the issue of gun violence can seem enormous and intractable without first addressing poverty or drugs. A closer look at the social networks of neighborhoods most afflicted, he says, often shows that only a small number of men drive most of the violence. Identify them and change their behavior, and it’s possible to have an immediate impact."
PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 14, 6:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

@errc said "I don’t have any problem with the Christian Church existing here, that is their right. I do take issue with having to subsidize their existence, especially with them disrespecting the Constitution and interfering with our Laws. There needs to be a separation of church and state, or else you end up with horrible, inefficient and insanely expensive laws and bad policy, like the War on Drugs and our mess of a healthcare system"

On this we agree. But healthcare is a mess because the money (insurance and pharmacy) have rigged it in their favor at the expense of the rest of us. It has nothing to do with Christianity. And the war on drugs is less about Christianity than it is about money too. Pharma, tobacco and alcohol don't want the competition and medicine doesn't want people self treating so THEY want drugs illegal.

My apologies for pegging you as a liberal democrat. If not, then which politician do you support?