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  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 7, 9:24pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
All of us have exactly two biological parents of opposite gender.


You keep saying that, like a prayer. You emphasize binary models in which the "exactly two" is an assumption, though not a fact.

"Pregnancy in true hermaphrodites and all male offspring to date."

"Potential autofertility in true hermaphrodites"

Perhaps your "all of us " comment is intended to make sure such people know they are not welcome to read PatNet?

How many genders do you see in the following list of pronouns: "he", "she", "it"?

How many sexes do you see in the following sets of healthy human sex chromosomes: xx, xy, xxy?

Can you see that each list contains more than two? You might read further here:

http://www.isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

At some point, insisting on demonstrably false statements becomes lying. Why lie? I don't understand the motivation of flat earthers, and I am genuinely curious about the motivation behind endlessly repeating "there are only two genders." It makes no sense that a person who cannot count past two would complete sufficient math to become a programmer, so why keep saying "only two" when there are clearly more than two?
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 8, 5:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Are grannies becoming bigger, or more numerous?

SF needs housing, but I don't understand tovbot's insistence on tiny shacks. Tall buildings would make much more sense.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 8, 6:02pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Irish Professor stabbed 13 times, and unto death, by Islamist in Paris for Insulting The Prophet.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6471059/Irish-lecturer-stabbed-death-Paris-insulted-Mohammed-says-Pakistani-killer.html


Even France24 and RTÉ have the story.

"A source close to the investigation said the teacher, who has not been named, was stabbed 13 times, including in the throat.

He was declared dead at 12.35 pm, and a knife was found at the scene.
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The suspect ""tried to flee but two security guards from the university managed to hold him down until police arrived,” a student called Shaima said."

"A police source said the suspect, who is in custody, was a former student at the university who was born in Pakistan in 1981 and was not previously known to police."

This being France, I assume the authorities will return the knife to the 37yo suspect, and Sting will sing Inshallah at a benefit concert for legal defense.

Strategist says
Muslim, from a terrorist country Pakistan


Pakistan is a terrorist state. Insulting the dead charlatan Mohamad is a capital offense in Pakistan, and many Pakistanis demand the murder of blasphemers even outside Pakistan. Anyone who supports freedom of speech anywhere in the world must oppose Pakistan.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 8, 6:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
So do you think there are three genders or does everyone have their own gender? Black and white or many shades of gray?


See above. For centuries, the English language has had at least three genders: he, she, and it. The word "they" can refer to any combination, including intersex. Some advocate for more than three genders, but insisting on only two is absurd and frankly a lie.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 8, 6:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
What beneficent pro-survival human evolutionary purpose do random, infertile (and thus non-inheritable esp. in the "wild" and usually even with scientific assistance) genetic disorders serve?


All land animals, including humans, are related to fish via amphibians. In many fish/amphibian species, natural sex change serves evolutionary purposes. Human history is comparatively brief, around 200k years. Humans have a vestigial tail, and other vestigial attributes (e.g. separate fibula and tibia). You can say vestigial attributes don't necessarily serve any obvious purpose right now, but nature tends to conserve features that proved useful in the past, and can bring them back when needed. Mutations are not entirely random: previously successful variations tend to recur more often than pure chance would suggest.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 8, 7:13pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

d6rB says
First Iraq war was


"The First Iraq War Was Also Sold to the Public Based on a Pack of Lies"

The issue was debated extensively in the 1992 Presidential campaign. Ross Perot pointed to the reported meeting between US Ambassador April Glaspie and Saddam Hussein, and PBS broadcast an excerpt from a US State Department press conference in which a State Department official said the U.S. had no vested interest in Kuwait. The Bush 41 administration misled Saddam Hussein to believe he could invade Kuwait without American repercussions, then used the invasion to launch a war and occupy the region ("no fly zones" in Iraq, bases in KSA).

The word "lie" raises, however, a particular issue. Some people use the word "lie" to mean making false statements. In fact, it means knowingly making false statements. The trouble with the W administration especially, and probably with many presidents, is they can believe what they want to believe. They tend to be religious, and W claimed he listened to "a higher father" on Iraq. Such people look at ambiguous data, believe what they want to believe, and act accordingly. They don't need to lie.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 8, 7:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
Fuck that... They are being fucking leftist fascists, nazi leftist mother fuckers.


Fulminating with insults and profanity makes you sound like marcus, not a rational person at all. Try reading the articles linked above, including this excerpt, and address the anatomical variations observed and described.

FortWayneIndiana says
Everything else is just mental illness.


There is definitely something wrong with people who deny the existence of obvious facts including anatomical variation and plain language. For example, the English language has had at least three genders for hundreds of years. Insisting on only two, and repeating that like a prayer, seems probably a manifestation of cognitive dissonance, but it could be mental illness.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 8, 7:26pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
likely brief


It's a blip. Annually, the USA imports 20% of consumption.

The USA could become a net exporter if coastal states allowed offshore drilling. We could sell Atlantic oil to Europe and Pacific oil to China. Instead, coastal states prefer to send $$$ to KSA. Part of that results from Petrodollar hypnosis, as both KSA and Russia can support "left" environmentalists in order to keep American production capacity offline.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 8, 7:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Automan Empire says
Strategist says
The second Iraq war was a mistake in hindsight only. The democrats, including Hillary Clinton, voted for the war.


No, and I don't appreciate that falsehood being attributed to Democrats.


Hillary Clinton had been a Goldwater Republican, but by 2016 she became the Democratic nominee for President. She voted for the Iraq war at the behest of her Saudi clients. She had access to essentially the same intelligence the W administration had, and she was definitely aware of the diversity of opinion on the topic. She voted for war at every opportunity. See also Hillary's War, which President Obama called the worst mistake of his administration. From her POV, Hillary's War wasn't a mistake: it prevented Libya from selling oil and gas to Europe, thus eliminating competition for her Saudi clients. Iraqi and Libyan production have never recovered from the wars that Hillary helped launch, and the Saudis like it that way.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 8, 8:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
In the recent past, common usage was for only humans to be referred to as "he" or "she", and all other animals called "it," regardless of sex. The word "it" is not a catchall for hermaphrodites or other people whose sexuality failed to completely form.


Common English usage in the recent past included referring to ships and even states as "she". The existence of "it" and "they" proves that the English language has long had more than two genders. The neutral word "one" can refer to anyone or anything, of any sex.

In Scandinavian languages, the word for child is a neuter noun. In Spanish, the word for color is a masculine noun, but in French, the word for color is feminine.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 9, 3:47am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Feel free to post Mohammed cartoons.


The Charlie Hebdo cartoon violence thread has many.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 9, 5:23pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
Where did the oil go to?


Follow the link above, and you'll see where the USA exports to, and why:

Mexico—17%
Canada—13%
China—7%
Brazil—6%
Japan—6%
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 9, 5:33pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
"quorum sensing"


That is a good metaphor for the change in Islamic behavior that occurs when Muslims reach 20% of the population, and why most countries that have allowed themselves to become more than 20% Muslim are now more than 90% Muslim. Islam becomes much more aggressive and assertive when it crosses that line.

As for organizing, the issue with the "right" is that (like the left) it tends to organize around false beliefs rather than data.

The French "yellow vest" protestors say things like, We pay a lot of taxes, where does the money go? Someone should do a serious accounting of the price France pays for Islam. 70% of French prisoners are Muslim. Calculate honestly the cost of incarceration, prosecution, investigation, and crime. Consider fairly how much Muslims pay in taxes, and how much they cost in government services. The net result should state honestly and objectively how much each French voter pays for Islam.

Islam hates us. Islam opposes western civilization. If westerners are to pay anything because of Islam, it should only ever be to end Islam. The French are paying to support Islam, and nobody tells them how much they are paying.

Same for Sweden and Germany. How much are they actually paying, all in, for Islam? And what do they get back? Offset honestly the taxes etc.

In any election, at least in the USA, probably 80% are locked into a partisan identity, red or blue, no matter what the issues might be. The remaining 20% can decide an election if they have objective information. Both major factions fail to provide that: the left distorts numbers, while the "right" doesn't even usually bother with numbers.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 9, 6:48pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

She's probably a poor shot, but her persistence would only add to the entertainment value.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 9, 11:33pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
I predict a revolution....


Migration seems more likely. The Saudis will simply bribe NATO politicians and media to import Sunni Muslims, as per usual, and eventually hijack NATO to serve Islam.

Donald Trump is basically the only American leader who has ever stood up against that since prior to Nixon's disastrous deals with KSA, which started the whole Petrodollar hypnosis. So far, the Trump administration has reduced Muslim immigration by more than 20% compared to prior levels, and even more compared to the increase that HIllary Clinton campaigned on. Seeing how he is treated by MSM, and considering the TDS among Democrats, the next president will more likely resume surrendering to Islam.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 10, 8:27pm   ↑ like (7)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Most of us are bots and so can't attend in person, but maybe someone can hire crisis actors to simulate the drama that is PatNet. Pay close attention to their arms, that's always the tell.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 11, 12:02am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
90 days.


130. Every feminist should know, Islam gives wives a right to 4 months and 10 days, which can range from 130 to 133 days total depending on which months are included. Nothing after that, of course. Really, every feminist should know what Islam says about women, including the part about needing four male witnesses to prove rape. Feminists should see importing Islam as treason against women especially, even a hate crime. All it might take is for some targets of feminism to embrace Islam, e.g. Brock Allen Turner converting and declaring that his conviction violates his religion, Harvey Weinstein converting and using that as a defense to both his divorce and his criminal charges, and Donald Trump tweeting about all the $$$ he could have saved on divorces. The rationale seems currently, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," so feminists embrace the enemy and demand Islam; if the enemy joins Islam, then feminists might reconsider.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 11, 3:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
And they know how to play along until they’re in position to really do us some damage.
These little attacks are just steam escaping from the pressure cooker. The real explosion is still brewing.


Exactly.

I've been following this latest incident on Google News, and it is interesting to see which channels report the details first. Mainly Arab and Russian sources are publishing details that NATO media have so far withheld.

First, the latest summary from NPR: "A gunman opened fire at a Christmas market in Strasbourg, France, killing at least four people and wounding nearly a dozen others, according to preliminary reports."

NPR links to Reuters, which reports: "The motive was not immediately clear but, with France still on high alert after a wave of attacks commissioned or inspired by Islamic State militants since early 2015, the counter-terrorism prosecutor opened an investigation.
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Interior Minister Christophe Castaner said the gunman was known to security services, and the local prefecture said he was on an intelligence services watchlist.
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The Christmas market was being held amid tight security this year, with unauthorized vehicles excluded from surrounding streets during opening hours and checkpoints set up on bridges and access points to search pedestrians’ bags.

The Paris prosecutor said the motive for the attack was not known. No group immediately claimed responsibility but the U.S.-based Site intelligence group, which monitors jihadist websites, said Islamic State supporters were celebrating the attack.
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Sources familiar with the police operation said the suspect was a 29-year-old whose residence had been raided earlier in the day in connection with a robbery during the summer. The suspect was not in the building at the time.
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Secular France has been grappling with how to respond to both homegrown jihadists and foreign militants following attacks in Paris, Nice, Marseille and beyond since 2015.

In 2016, a truck ploughed into a Bastille Day crowd in Nice, killing more than 80 people, while in November 2015, coordinated Islamist militant attacks on the Bataclan concert hall and other sites in Paris claimed about 130 lives. There have also been attacks in Paris on a policeman on the Champs-Elysees avenue, the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo and a kosher store.

Almost exactly two years ago, a Tunisian Islamist rammed a hijacked truck into a Christmas market in central Berlin, killing 11 people as well as the driver.


From RT (warning: anyone who looks at RT even one time might be investigated by various federal officials for "Russian contacts"):

"Strasbourg gunman was on terror watch list, had grenades at home
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“The author of these acts, listed as a security threat, had been sought by police,” the regional prefecture said in a statement, identifying the perpetrator as being on its notorious ‘Fiche S’. Yet he has reportedly managed to escape arrest earlier in the day, before carrying out the attack near the Christmas market at around 8 pm on Tuesday evening.
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“There are so many people that are involved around the edges of this sort of terrorism if this is what it turns out to be, that you can't keep any sort of meaningful surveillance on them. Even just monitoring the use of communications and social media would be too much,” Peter Kirkham, former London police inspector, told RT.
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As the manhunt continues, much of the city center remains on lockdown with authorities urging people to stay at home amid the developing “serious public security incident.”
"

So much for Christmas shopping: retailers will now have even more difficulty trying to pay taxes and rents. Western civilization cannot handle Islamic infiltration, which is what happens inevitably with Muslim immigration.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 11, 3:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
billions of them).


There are one billion Muslims and a few hundred million hostages who would love to be free of Islam, but Islam keeps growing. The west has a choice: either do to Islam what was done to communism, or fight another world war like against the Nazi/Muslim axis in WWII. If Petrodollar hypnosis continues spreading Sunni Muslims into NATO, then by demographics the west will fall to Islam sooner than we need ever worry about "global warming". NATO demographics would not be a problem in themselves, but deficit spending requires the assumption of increasing populations; the merchants of debt want immigration to prop up the deficit spending, but they will bankrupt the NATO republics in every way, and western civilization will get replaced by Islam (which prohibits lending at interest).
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 11, 5:36pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Heraclitusstudent says
Africa was not a large population compared to Europe 100 yrs back.


Africans would have 10 babies, with just 2 of them surviving. Nature controlled the population. Modern medicine is what allowed the populations to explode.


Modern medicine and misguided western "aid" have enabled African populations to grow, and Islamic dysfunction drives emigration. Other factors increase migration, but Islam drives most of it.

When Africa sends disease, the west sends vaccines and cures in return. When the west sends "aid" $, Africans demand more $$$ as "climate justice." When the west sends volunteers and "aid" workers to try to help Africans build a livable civilization, Africa sends the west mostly Muslim migrants to destroy western civilization. The west has done well with (usually Christian) immigrants from South Africa, but the (usually Muslim) immigrants from central and north Africa tend to cause problems, e.g. Mohamed Atta, and the few (usually Christian) exceptions from those regions don't justify the terrible disasters.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 11, 5:47pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MegaForce says
care to chime in?


Fiber has advantages over any radio technology including 5G. Houses and businesses can have dropout areas where radio signals become unreliable. Also, radio has inherent security issues, because radio can always be intercepted and eventually decrypted. (Some would say the Internet has that risk no matter what, but radio makes local interception easier.)
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 11, 6:57pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This result was predicted publicly in 2008, when then Senator Obama declared his candidacy for the Presidency:

"As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother’s Christian background is irrelevant.
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He chose to become a Christian, and indeed has written convincingly to explain how he arrived at his choice and how important his Christian faith is to him.
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His conversion, however, was a crime in Muslim eyes; it is “irtidad” or “ridda,” usually translated from the Arabic as “apostasy,” but with connotations of rebellion and treason. Indeed, it is the worst of all crimes that a Muslim can commit, worse than murder (which the victim’s family may choose to forgive).

With few exceptions, the jurists of all Sunni and Shiite schools prescribe execution for all adults who leave the faith not under duress; the recommended punishment is beheading at the hands of a cleric, although in recent years there have been both stonings and hangings. (Some may point to cases in which lesser punishments were ordered — as with some Egyptian intellectuals who have been punished for writings that were construed as apostasy — but those were really instances of supposed heresy, not explicitly declared apostasy as in Senator Obama’s case.)

It is true that the criminal codes in most Muslim countries do not mandate execution for apostasy (although a law doing exactly that is pending before Iran’s Parliament and in two Malaysian states). But as a practical matter, in very few Islamic countries do the governments have sufficient authority to resist demands for the punishment of apostates at the hands of religious authorities.

For example, in Iran in 1994 the intervention of Pope John Paul II and others won a Christian convert a last-minute reprieve, but the man was abducted and killed shortly after his release. Likewise, in 2006 in Afghanistan, a Christian convert had to be declared insane to prevent his execution, and he was still forced to flee to Italy.
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Muslim law...prohibits punishment for any Muslim who kills any apostate, and effectively prohibits interference with such a killing.
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  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 12, 2:24am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

"President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that U.S. authorities had “caught 10 terrorists,” citing it as a reason for why the United States should build a wall on its Mexican border, but four government sources said there was no recent evidence of terrorism suspects being caught along the border."

The President can lead on terrorism by talking about Strasbourg and the fact that Islam hates us. He can remind people why he had suggested pausing Muslim immigration. I don't know what he gains by claiming 10 terrorists were caught at the southern border, if that statement ends up hurting his credibility. The fact is, three nice people in France were murdered Tuesday at a Christmas market, which had to close, all because of Muslim immigration. Donald Trump stands alone in trying to defend against that threat.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 12, 12:58pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ForcedTQ says
Great idea.


How is that different from when the USA supported mujahideen in Afghanistan, and Sunni militias in Syria, including providing "advisors" and training? It's been standard USA practice for decades. In the case of Muslims, it ends up blowing up in our faces, sometimes literally. If people believe in a doctrine that commands them to kill you, then training them to kill is a very bad idea.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Change my Mind.


OK, first you should recall that Muslim women tend to be some of the most Islamic people on earth. Mothers encourage their husbands to kill their daughters for Islamic "honor", or even do it themselves, from Pakistan to Arizona we have seen this. I think PatNet has a thread on an example from Arizona, the father tried to murder the daughter, she was barely alive in a hospital, and the mother was phoning around trying to find her so the husband could finish the task; the police refused to disclose the daughter's location. We've seen female suicide bombers, both independently and in conjunction with whole families (e.g. suicide attacks on churches and a police headquarters in Indonesia). President Trump's Osprey raid into Yemen failed because (a) Osprey and (b) female Muslim combatants against the American infidels. The New Yorker had a long article about how Wyoming got a mosque: a Muslim immigrated, worked hard, saved, invested, then made the mistake of going to Pakistan for a Muslim bride; he thought he was being careful by leaving his money to the kids and not much to her; one of her relatives murdered him; the merry widow hired an American lawyer to challenge the will; she got the $$$, and brought over more relatives from Pakistan; she raised all the kids as devout Muslims, and now there is a mosque. Consider the San Bernardino attack threads on PatNet, where the parents divorced because the father was insufficiently devout; she made sure the son got a religious wife, and once the first grandchild was born, the son and bride did their suicide mission, and now the grandmother raises the next generation of jihadi. Consider the merry widow of Omar Mateen, who knew about her husband's plans but did nothing to stop them, and is now raising the next generation of jihadi in that family. Being female is no defense against Islam.

  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 12, 1:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
No Nazi or Communist would commit suicide due to their beliefs

No, but the Japanese did.


Numerous communists did commit suicide attacks, e.g. in Cuba and Viet Nam. Hitler expected 'death before dishonor,' i.e. he expected senior officers to die fighting hopeless battles rather than surrender, and he killed himself in his bunker.

The biggest difference with Islam results from percentages and sheer scale. With a high birth rate, Islam produces many thousands of suicide terrorists, and replaces them with even more. Also, Islamic beliefs (e.g. guaranteed eternal paradise for the martyr, plus he can intercede for up to 70 relatives to get into paradise too) cause more cultural support for suicide terrorists, including majority support among Palestinian Muslims, and so a higher percentage of Muslims either sign up personally or enable or encourage their relatives.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Strassburg


*Strasbourg
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 12, 2:40pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46535552

Strasbourg shooting: Gunman shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as he attacked


"The gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar" ("God is greatest") as he opened fire."

Literally a few hours ago, I heard France24 talking heads telling the audience that it was too soon to speculate about the motive, the gunman was on the terrorist watch list but not considered a serious terrorist threat, no known ties, blah blah blah.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 12, 3:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
in Peoria IL?


Peoria, AZ.

BTW, "peor" is a Spanish word meaning "worst".
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 12, 4:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

President Trump should drop VP Pence for Ivanka to run as VP. She was a Democrat, so it would be a bipartisan administration. She's a wife and mother, and might help win the votes of married women. In a Trump/Trump administration, even if the President retires and is pardoned, Trump voters would still have a President Trump, and she'd be younger.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 12, 4:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
the same way they are treated in their own countries.


In their own countries, they commit honor killings and suicide bombings on behalf of Islam. The wife's relatives can also murder the husband, enabling the merry widow to inherit.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 13, 2:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

PatNet has a thread on the recent Islamic attack on the Strasbourg Christmas market, but now that the attack is confirmed definitely Islamic I will add it to this thread too.

"A massive manhunt involving hundreds of police and soldiers has been launched for a suspected extremist who yelled "Allahu Akbar" (God is greatest) during a shooting spree around one of Europe's most famous Christmas markets.
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Strasbourg's Mayor said the shooting was "indisputably" a terrorist attack
The suspect has been previously convicted 27 times
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The assault in the eastern French city of Strasbourg killed two, left one person brain dead and injured 12 others, authorities said.

Police union officials identified the suspected assailant as Cherif Chekatt, a 29-year-old with an extensive police record for crimes including armed robbery and monitored as a suspected religious radical by the French intelligence services.
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The British foreign office warns, “Terrorists are very likely to try to carry out attacks in France. Due to ongoing threats to France by Islamist terrorist groups, and recent French military intervention against Daesh (formerly referred to as ISIL), the French government has warned the public to be especially vigilant and has reinforced its security measures."

The Strasbourg Christmas market had been an Islamic target before:

"In December 2000, a plot by the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat to bomb the Strasbourg Christmas market, at the feet of the Strasbourg Cathedral on New Year's Eve was discovered. The plot was foiled by French and German police after a terrorist network based in Frankfurt, Germany, the "Frankfurt group", was unravelled. A total of fourteen people were convicted as part of the plot; four in Germany and ten in France, including the operational leader, Mohammed Bensakhria (a.k.a. "Meliani"), thought to be a European deputy to Osama bin Laden."

Islam is a relentless enemy. Even if you foil a particular plot, more will follow. As long as Islam continues to grow, more Muslims will arrive to destroy the target, and eventually western civilization. It took more than 8 years for Muslims to destroy the World Trade Center in New York, from the 1993 bombing to September 11, 2001, but they did it.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 13, 11:13am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NuttBoxer says
if you're a terrorist, when is the best time to attack?


That depends on the motivation. For an Islamic terrorist, Christmas crowds are an ideal target. The same Christmas market had already been a target in 2000. The guy had reportedly grenades, and was likely part of a plan to stage a larger attack; then, the police raid might have caused him to accelerate his attack and then hide. There might have been a plan for the perpetrator(s) to go into hiding in order to prolong the terror throughout the Christmas shopping season, thus maximizing the damage to retailers and the economy. In general, distraction and weakness show vulnerability. Islam foments division, then exploits that division to strike, so the yellow vest protests present an ideal opportunity: crowds, division, security forces distracted by rioters, etc.

I do however respect your skepticism, because at this point we have only allegations about the perpetrator. They will take time to prove. Was he really the perpetrator, who else was involved, why was he out and about instead of incarcerated after so many prior convictions: all these questions require time to answer.

With Omar Mateen, we learned that the father had a relationship with the FBI (and I suspect CIA). That might explain why repeated FBI investigations including personal surveillance failed to identify him as a terrorist, even after co-workers had said specifically that he was a terrorist. We learned also that the soon to be merry widow knew about the plan, though the jury declared reasonable doubt as to whether she committed the specific crimes alleged: that raises another question, i.e. why didn't the FBI and DoJ investigate her more thoroughly?

It reminds me of the OJ trials for murder and wrongful death. The police might indeed have tampered with evidence, their chain of custody was definitely flawed, and the criminal prosecution failed to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Still, the civil jury found correctly that OJ had probably killed those two people.

Time will tell about the latest Strasbourg attack. I suspect the alleged gunman did probably perpetrate the attack, but that is not yet proved, and it leaves questions about who helped.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 27, 3:39am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
Safe bets like...Costco.... And of course I avoid Retail....


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The Housing Trap
You're being set up to spend your life paying off a debt you don't need to take on, for a house that costs far more than it should. The conspirators are all around you, smiling to lure you in, carefully choosing their words and watching your reactions as they push your buttons, anxiously waiting for the moment when you sign the papers that will trap you and guarantee their payoff. Don't be just another victim of the housing market. Use this book to defend your freedom and defeat their schemes. You can win the game, but first you have to learn how to play it.
115 pages, $12.50

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