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  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 13, 2:12pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Conversely if you strip commercial protections from Prop 13, you will push a segment of businesses out of California due to... higher taxes.


I wonder about the scale of that, and the net effect. The main beneficiaries are inherited commercial landlords, a rentier class in every sense of the phrase. They can't really remove the land from California. Newer businesses, i.e. the ones that are creating new jobs, are actually paying higher taxes to offset the tax subsidy to inherited landlords. Google and Facebook are hiring all the time, and paying higher taxes than inherited landlords that aren't hiring much if at all.

California has a similar issue involving water rights. Holders of "senior" (often inherited) water rights can waste huge quantities of water (e.g. on animal agriculture), while new industries (e.g. chip manufacturers) get pushed out of state in search of water and lower costs. These distortions cause 80% of the state's water to go to 2% of the economy, i.e. agriculture, while the other 98% of the economy must either conserve or relocate.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 13, 3:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

SunnyvaleCA says
If we moved to a Ranked Voting system, 3rd parties would have a fighting chance.

I'd also be for using Ranked Voting combined with a popular vote BUT ONLY if the voter fraud could be stopped. Popular vote right now would be a disaster because of vote-harvesting areas of some states.


Jill Stein (Green Party nominee) campaigned on ranked choice voting, i.e. 1st and 2nd choice. She reasoned that would allow people to vote their hopes instead of merely their fears. 2016 showed the need: each major party nominated a candidate with majority disapproval, and campaigned largely on demonizing the other party's nominee. Ranking two choices would be ideal. Ranking 3 or more can lead to theoretical problems that mathematicians can argue against, and logistical complications. Ranking two is easy and reliable, and would incentivize all parties towards candidates and policies that are at least tolerable to more voters.

We have already an unlimited number of parties.

As for the popular vote, the main issue with NPVIC is that it has no defense against fraud. Fraud can result from ballot stuffing, or the easily hacked paperless ballot machines that control already more than 20% of votes. Those proprietary, paperless machines have no accountability at all: it is clear they can be hacked, and there is no way to know if they were or not.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 13, 7:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hugolas_Madurez says
sometimes prioritizing lowering CO2 leads to increase of other, more dangerous kind of pollution. Best example:


Nuclear power is also a contender, e.g. Chernobyl and Fukushima Daichi. Most people on the left used to oppose nuclear power for a long list of valid reasons, including the essential command and control structure that must be maintained for thousands of years while the waste decays. Now, with the priority being CO2, some on the left are embracing nuclear power.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 14, 12:47am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
some do learn with age....


I hope everyone learns with age. Medicare seems very popular with the (mostly older) people who are on it. The AMA and Ronald Reagan used to call it liberalism and socialism. On many issues, opinion moves in a more liberal direction, regardless of age.

FortWayneIndiana says
the world and it's dangers... Darwinism, strong survive, stupid either learn or die.


Glad to see you believe in Darwinism now. That's a change from believing in the Bible.

You might, though, want to look up the difference between "it's" and "its" before calling others stupid.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 14, 4:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
"The Journal of Parkinson's Disease"


That journal (and others) describes a great, short summary on the possible links between gut and brain wrt Parkinson's:

"More and more studies are suggesting that the condition starts in the gastrointestinal system — at least for some people who have digestive symptoms years before any motor symptoms develop.

Some studies have even shown that the alpha-synuclein protein, which is abnormal in Parkinson's disease, travels from the brain to the stomach via the vagus nerve, a major component of the parasympathetic nervous system.
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The summary contains links, including to this article from Finland:

"In the last two decades it has become clear that Parkinson’s disease (PD) is associated with a plethora of gastrointestinal symptoms originating from functional and structural changes in the gut and its associated neural structures. This is of particular interest not only because such symptoms have a major impact on the quality of life of PD patients, but also since accumulating evidence suggests that in at least a subgroup of patients, these disturbances precede the motor symptoms and diagnosis of PD by years and may thus give important insights into the origin and pathogenesis of the disease. In this mini-review we attempt to concisely summarize the current knowledge after two decades of research on the gut-brain axis in PD."

Cell transplant research is very interesting, whether IPS or fetal cells, but past attempts with fetal cells showed Parkinson's could return. I suspect that recurrence in some cases might result from residual prions traveling up the vagus nerve, or continued exposure to whatever dietary or other environmental sources caused the problem.

Parkinson's subtyping will likely illuminate significant differences between genetic, dietary, and other environmental exposures. Stem cells might work well in purely genetic cases, but the others might require addressing the environmental factors to prevent recurrence.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 14, 4:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
The study “provides a new theoretical result that low interest rates encourage market concentration by giving industry leaders a strategic advantage over followers, and this effect strengthens as the interest rate approaches zero,” the authors say.


Another possible effect is the apparent flood of capital into 'lottery ticket' startups. We see startups with no plausible business model securing "investment" (speculation) at valuations that only a fool would pay, all in the hope that they might, somehow, find a greater fool to buy them. If these "businesses" aren't actually productive, then the growing number of them might adversely affect overall productivity.

Also, low interest rates enable leveraged real estate owners to hold properties, even if empty. Their cost of capital being low, a property can remain empty for years in speculation that the price will increase. Empty properties have no productivity, and can attract blight.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 14, 7:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
hats


Jussie Smollett denies having said anything about MAGA hats:

"“I never said that,” he said. “I didn’t need to add anything like that. They called me a f****t, they called me a n****r. There’s no which way you cut it. I don’t need some MAGA hat as the cherry on some racist sundae.”
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Smollett said it took police about 30 minutes to respond.

During that time, the star said, he checked himself, saw his bruises and smelled bleach, so he left his clothes on as well as the rope around his neck.
"

He said he suspects the motive related to his outspoken opposition to President Trump. Since he had reportedly published his location and destination on the World Wide Web, it seems possible that he might have been tracked down by persons who felt some sort of animosity against him for whatever reason.

I do not have any information about what happened, so I am not placing any bets. The facts require investigation to determine what happened and why. There should be physical evidence to corroborate (or not) the accusations. For example, I don't know exactly how long 'bruises' take to appear in those circumstances, or whether he might have meant 'abrasions' instead of 'bruises'. The story does not sound like a misunderstanding, so someone did something wrong: either an attack or a false report; I presume innocence until more evidence emerges.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 14, 7:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This thread is about Parkinson's Disease research.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 14, 7:10pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
How many innocents have been harmed & killed by trash that call themselves followers of some imaginary God?


Too many, but Islam has an extraordinary hatred of disbelievers, and commands both terrorism and Sharia. Even the so-called "moderate" Muslims, who would not personally commit terrorism, are statistically likely to harbor terrorists, respect suicide terrorists, and demand Sharia in whole or in part.

Try comparing the Koran to the Bible, and you will see dramatic differences. The Koran says literally to strike terror into the enemies of Allah (chapter 8) and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them (chapter 9 among others). Try comparing surveys of Muslims and non-Muslims in the same country, e.g. British Muslims are much more likely to demand laws consistent with the Koran, compared to British non-Muslims, who prefer more secular laws. In most countries that have Muslim majorities, most Muslims demand Sharia, as per Islam.

It is a dreadful mistake to assume religions are all the same. Even the Abrahamic faiths, which share some elements, differ fundamentally from each other.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 15, 12:03am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Southern Baptist sexual abuse spreads as leaders resist reforms


But if you don't let Southern Baptist pastors abuse underage girls, then who will protect closet cases from the temptation to get gay married? Just imagine, one day a closet case is blowing Teamsters at the Reseda truck stop, as per usual, when a hunky driver proposes marriage. How to tell the wife and her kids from a previous marriage?

  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 15, 3:26am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

"Family Members Say Florida School Shooter Was On Antidepressants for Emotional Issues "

"From Prozac to Parkland: Are Psychiatric Drugs Causing Mass Shootings?

While mass killers generally have guns in their hands, another commonality is that they often have psychiatric drugs in their blood.
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As a case in point, the Parkland, Florida, shooter (I won’t use his name and help provide the fame he craved), who murdered 17 on Valentine’s Day, was on medication for emotional issues, his aunt related.
"

The article lists many more examples.

Unfortunately, the evening "news" broadcasts continue to be sponsored primarily by drug companies. Seriously, count the ads. An outright majority are from drug companies, and half of those are for drugs you can't even buy legally without a prescription. "Ask your doctor," over and over again.

As long as the drug companies control the MSM, you are unlikely to hear much about the role of Rx drugs in driving these otherwise incomprehensible attacks. The narrative continues to blame guns, because gun manufacturers don't generally advertise on TV.

The #1 rule of TV news is: promote the advertisers. Rx drugs are always good, and their illegal competitors are always bad. Anything that goes wrong must be blamed on either illegal drugs or one of the other standard villains, never the drug companies.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 15, 4:56pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
RC2006 says
Those models will all fail from immigration. The citizens that setup all those safety nets and programs did so for the good of its future generations, not somebody else's to come in and swoop up.



Sweden's will, but Denmark's won't.

Danes are smarter. Did you know Denmark confiscates jewelry and cash from refugees excepting only wedding rings or heirloom items up to a certain dollar amount? ( @Curious2 )

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-jewellery-law-migrants-refugees-asylum-seekers-unhcr-united-nations-a7113056.html


This is a crucial point that most on the left refuse to acknowledge, which makes me wonder whom they are really working for. You can have many public benefits, even a generous welfare state, IF YOU HAVE BORDER CONTROL. If you do not have border control, or if you import a population of hostile invaders with a high birth rate, then your welfare state will be swamped and destroyed. Everything that all prior generations worked to build, from the founding visionaries who risked everything for liberty, to the labor organizers who risked their lives for better working conditions and a living wage, will be given away or lost to hostile invaders.

Almost all of the most miserable countries on earth have Muslims majorities. They are miserable because of Islamic dysfunction. Check any list of the happiest (and least happy) countries: the correlation is much too strong to attribute to anything else.

Even in Christian countries that are suffering, e.g. Mexico, a major reason is that high birth rates cause the labor supply to grow more quickly than the capital stock. As a result, they face a chronic shortage of resources relative to population, and a chronic surplus of labor driving down wages. They export labor, in the form of migrants, basically renting out their working age population in exchange for remittances. Due to the high birth rates, every year a whole new crop of aspiring workers enters the labor force, driving down wages relative to capital.

Religiosity correlates very strongly with high birth rates. In the Abrahamic religions, religiosity tends to drive directly the high birth rates, via the command to "be fruitful and multiply" and the Catholic prohibition on contraception.

Muslims tend to be much more religious than non-Muslims. Praying 5x/day from childhood has that effect. The more people invest in a doctrine, the more committed to it they become. And Islam is fundamentally hostile to western liberty.

I can see both sides of the American immigration debate. If you import Latin Americans, they do tend to drive down wages in the sectors where they compete, but that increases the standard of living for people in other sectors. For example, a public school teacher can hire a maid or gardener, or both, because the teacher does not face competition from illegal immigrants, but the maid and gardener do. The consequences are mainly economic because Latin Americans are not generally hostile to western liberty.

In contrast, the European migration debate raises existential challenges. Importing Muslims can drive down wages in some sectors (if the Muslims work instead of only collecting jizya in the form of benefits or crime/extortion money), AND it also threatens western liberty as a whole. Moreover, Europe has plenty of labor in eastern Europe, Spain, etc. There is no need to import Muslims. As Nassim Taleb wrote, by importing Muslims, the west is "committing suicide." The only explanation I can think of is Petrodollar hypnosis.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 15, 8:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says


That one looks a lot more similar to Muslims and the leftists who insist on spreading Islam. Muslims are the ones that can't bear to hear criticism of their dead charlatan Mohamad and his hateful fraud of Islam, so they kill blasphemers including even cartoonists. Leftists, including identitarian pseudo-"liberals," ignore or even censor blasphemy and evidence against Islam as "Islamophobia". Trump supporters may complain about MSM, and Trump trolls MSM with tweets, but no one has actually attempted to censor criticism of the President, nor even the rampant TDS "Trumpophobia".
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 15, 8:27pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 15, 8:31pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
identical twins are not more likely to both be gay if one of them is.


Patrick says
it is an outright lie that homosexuality is something innate and immutable


Both of those statements are false, and you have been presented with plenty of evidence to know that. @Patrick, why do you litter your own site with outright lies?

"A genetic analysis of 409 pairs of gay brothers, including sets of twins, has provided the strongest evidence yet that gay people are born gay. The study clearly links sexual orientation in men with two regions of the human genome that have been implicated before, one on the X chromosome and one on chromosome 8... The latest study involves about three times as many people as the previous largest study, which means it is significantly more statistically robust."

Prior work involving more twins:

"We found 52 percent of identical twin brothers of gay men also were gay, compared with 22 percent of fraternal twins, compared with 11 percent of genetically unrelated brothers," said J. Michael Bailey, an assistant professor of psychology at Northwestern University in Evanston, "which is exactly the kind of pattern you would want to see if something genetic were going on." By "unrelated," Dr. Bailey was referring to brothers by adoption."

Another major factor is birth order:

Twenty years ago, Ray Blanchard and Anthony Bogaert demonstrated that the probability of a boy growing up to be gay increases for each older brother born to the same mother, the so-called fraternal birth order (FBO) effect. Their first investigation indicated that each older brother increased the probability of being gay by about 33%. This startling phenomenon was confirmed in multiple studies based on independent populations totaling over 10,000 subjects, and a meta-analysis indicated that between 15% and 29% of gay men owe their sexual orientation to this effect. Despite this compelling evidence, a mechanism to account for the effect remained elusive. In PNAS, Bogaert et al. present direct biochemical evidence indicating that the increased incidence of homosexuality in males with older brothers results from a progressive immunization of the mother against a male-specific cell-adhesion protein that plays a key role in cell–cell interactions, specifically in the process of synapse formation, during development called neuroligin 4 Y-linked, or NLGN4Y. This study provides the first data-based explanation for the FBO effect and adds a significant chapter to growing evidence indicating that sexual orientation is heavily influenced by prenatal biological mechanisms rather than by unidentified factors in socialization."

You and @FortWayne/@FortWayneIndiana seem to insist on certain falsehoods, AKA lies. I can see why he obsesses over it, spreading lies to atone for his own sinful thoughts and behavior, but you don't even believe.

Patrick says
I just don't want them teaching it to children.


Most gay children are born to opposite sex parents and grow up in those households. Where exactly do you want gay children to learn that they are not alone?

You have also claimed falsely that everyone has only two parents of opposite sex. In reality, intersex (XXY) and anatomical hermaphrodites can and do have children, and many children (e.g. those born to surrogates) have three biological parents. That still leaves a majority of gay children growing up in households without gay parents, so the question stands: where should they learn about their own lives?

It is very odd to see you posting the same outright lies over and over again, repeating them like a prayer.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 15, 8:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
the racism and hate for working people illustrated in the comic absolutely guarantees that nothing will be solved.


The comic shows two parents, a daughter, and a dog. It makes fun of the parents' ignorance. It says nothing about whether the parents are working, retired, unemployed, or lottery winners. They could be Walmart millionaires, for all you know. It says nothing about race, though the people happen to be white (as most Americans are) and one parent wears a confederate flag hat. You seem to be projecting a paranoid fantasy onto a comic, much the way marcus projects racism onto everyone everywhere.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 15, 9:12pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
curious2 says
That's false. @Patrick, why do you litter your own site with outright lies?


You are quoting either false studies or studies that simply point that people who grow in the same household, under same conditions, more likely end up gay. Which has been proven. It's socially constructed to a high degree. Raise normal kids in a gay neighborhoods, and likelihood of them going looney is higher. Same with Trannies. Which is why this shit is child abuse. The lower the IQ of the child, the higher probability of children raised that way turning out homos. That was another study. And no study has found a genetic difference between gays and normal, which likely means that it's not genetic, but socially constructed (aka sexual confusion). There is no gay gene, just stupidity.

See, your problem is that you ignore half the damn evidence curious2.


@FortWayne @FortWayneIndiana

The exchange does not involve funny pictures, so I am replying in the Reply Thread. I have linked the largest and most recent studies above. Your assertions are simply false, and disproved above. When you make deliberately false statements, those are lies.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 15, 9:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
What I'm posting


You have posted nothing but your own lies, with no links to anything, while I reply with linked facts. You choose to bear false witness against your fellow Americans.

This is an area where even conservatives learn with age. Barry Goldwater, Dick Cheney, and Rob Portman all endorsed gay rights after learning that they had gay children and grandchildren. Someday, the same may happen to you. In that moment, you will feel the pain of regret for having born false witness against your own family. I would spare you that pain, but you insist on it.

As for what you claim Jordan Peterson said, you have not even quoted him, let alone linked, and actual examples show the opposite of what you claim. For example, even after pleading guilty to homosexual solicitation in a public toilet, "rest room enthusiast" Larry Craig insisted he was straight, and remains married to a woman. (She has kids from a prior marriage, he has none of his own.) Ted Haggard, George Rekers, and countless other Republican closet cases demonstrate that closet cases can claim to be "straight" if raised in environments where they are pressured to do so. It doesn't change what they are inside.

@Patrick has also commented about two people in his own family who were gay and unfortunately Catholic, so they chose lives of celibacy to avoid sin. I hope he might apologize to them for having born false witness against his own family. His only gain is more page views on his website, which doesn't even make money. Perhaps he can at least confess to them what he said, including the time when he said people choose to be gay in order to get easy sex.

Positing false dichotomies is also a form of lying, and I do not intend to imply that every occurrence of characteristic X results from cause Y. That would be projecting false binaries onto a nonbinary world, as Patrick tends to do. Sexual orientation is influenced by genetics, maternal hormones during gestation, etc. The fact remains, many are born gay, even if Larry Craig and other examples claim to be straight.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 15, 10:09pm   ↑ like (8)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The discussion above was veering off topic (no pictures), so I replied in the Reply Thread. Now back to pictures:

  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 5:39pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rin says

I'm willing to pay a surcharge to avoid the 'gaydar' at high end cityside restaurants.


Why? BTW, I'm also curious why that comment got a Like? I mean, why would ppl so dread being (mis)perceived as gay that they would pay almost double to avoid it?

Maybe there is a market for T-Shirts or pins that say "NOT GAY" in big letters, preferably in clashing colors and patterns to make it look convincing, for the crowd who can't sit 24/7 in sushi restaurants with an escort.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 6:04pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
evidence that


closet cases lie about what they are inside, for example (as noted above) "restroom enthusiast" Larry Craig claims to be "straight" while soliciting other men for sex in public toilets. They are desperate that all homosexuals must go "back in the closet" and that nobody should ever talk about it, especially around kids (millions of whom are also gay).

Also, some people dread being perceived as gay and are even "willing to pay a surcharge" to avoid that. The ones who are secretly homosexual would, in addition to paying extra, lie about it.

One can usually identify these people by their recurring obsession with homosexuality. Closet cases head on down to the local truck stop toilet, blowing Teamsters and other motorists. Laud Humphreys published a whole book about this "Tearoom Trade." They go to public toilets because they can find men in a state of partial undress, away from women. It's a whole subculture: the motorists who want free head might be straight, and maybe the wife or gf won't do that sort of thing, so the closet cases spend a lot of time kneeling or practicing their "wide stance".

BTW, the public toilet closet cases crave status, and often have wives at home. Having sacrificed so much to appear "straight," they "despise" the fact that openly gay couples can get married and have the same legal status without needing to pretend at all.

In a Republican midterm primary, closet cases and their scared wives make up around half the Republican electorate. That is why the Republican party continues to oppose marriage equality. Meanwhile, 2/3 of Americans support marriage equality and our current President congratulated Elton John and David Furnish on their marriage even before it was legally recognized.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 6:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
I despise homosexuality.


What happened, maybe knee trouble? Or did some other toothless geezer bring superior talent to the Reseda truck stop and win away all the Teamsters with their sanctifying balm? Maybe it was a healthier, better looking guy?

If the Reseda truck stop isn't offering the same attention it did in the past, then maybe it's time to consider a different activity. Past a certain age, some guys take up another hobby, like gardening or decorating. Their homes look fabulous.

If hobbies can't compete with the obsession, then perhaps there might be an even lower end truck stop farther away, for non-union drivers. They might not speak English, but they do have sanctifying balm. Maybe it's time to invest in a pair of high quality knee pads?

https://www.amazon.com/Kneepads/b?ie=UTF8&node=553612

  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 7:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Of course, they want exclusive control of "education," but they want everyone's taxes to pay for the schools. That is the same as @Patrick with his new agenda to limit schools to what he calls "traditional" education. (Again, if we're talking Spartan tradition, then that's a conversation worth having. Perhaps AF can teach an elementary course in survival skills, to prepare the little ones for cannibal anarchy. "Tommy Guns For Tykes.")

After Patrick began littering his own site with outright lies, I wondered where this new agenda was coming from, and read further. Apparently, he has fallen under the spell of "Heartiste," a site so dominated by paranoid fear & loathing that TDS looks tame in comparison. They predicted that marriage equality would cause the world to end, and they are still stuck on that. Sometimes, when an insane cult predicts the world will end on a particular day or event, they drop that prediction when time proves them wrong; other times, they kill themselves to fulfill their own prophecy (Heaven's Gate, Branch Davidians). Others have a simpler formula: lie outright.

The question becomes, why?

In religious people, their belief in their own immortality depends on maintaining their doctrine. They see evidentiary disproof as a test of faith, which they must dismiss in order to avoid the cognitive dissonance that would come with accepting their mortality. Patrick has now rationalized lying outright because "all political argument is basically just rationalization for feelings. That is, the surface arguments are mostly "dishonest" in the sense that they do not have much to do with the true motivating feelings. Supporting evidence will be eagerly used, while negating evidence will be quietly ignored. This is not a specifically Republican or Democratic mechanism, it's universal." In that view, the political opinions (and I would add the foundation of their whole worldview) of religious people result from their fear of death. They must reject evidence that contradicts their doctrine, because they fear losing their (eternal) lives.

Occasionally, even irreligious people can fall into the same trap. Sticking with Patrick's view of opinion, and tendency to ignore evidence, the question becomes what is the motivation. Some people crave status, and fear losing what status they imagine they possess (motivation by fear of loss). In Palo Alto and Menlo Park, watching younger people succeed better in the same field, maybe feeling unfairly passed over (motivation by resentment), must add up. The median annual salaries at FB and GOOG are ~$200k/year, and employees' median age is ~30yo. These guys can bid up real estate prices and buy or rent nicer places than guys almost twice their age who have worked for decades and can't keep up. Gosh, that must really worry someone who craves status, especially if he rents his home instead of owning: motivation by resentment and fear of loss. In addition, identifying as a software engineer (motivation by identity) can emphasize binary logic, and even result in trying to impose binary models on a nonbinary world. Even though the world is nonbinary, with infinite shades of grey and color, some might imagine it should be binary. The idea that different people want different things, and that nature evolved diversity and in turn diversity gives life resilience and robustness, does not compute for such people. If nature were binary, all life would crash as often as Windows, but it isn't: species adapt, fish and amphibians change their sex as needed, etc. There are of course more than two genders, in English and German and other languages, but some insist there can be only two.

The sad thing is, apart from the lying being bad in itself, the lying has consequences. The kids who most need to hear that they are not alone and that it gets better are the ones whose parents try to suppress that information. Yet, the paranoiacs insist that kids must not be taught those facts, because "monkey see monkey do" and everyone will turn gay and the species would go extinct and blah blah blah. Different people want different things, learning about coal miners doesn't make kids want to mine coal, and if Patrick really believed in his claim that males are "hard wired" to want (female) T&A then no amount of teaching could change that. He doesn't believe it, partly because it isn't true and partly because he has cousins who are homosexual and officially celibate. He lies though, motivated by resentment, identity, and fear of loss, and rationalizing that such lying must be universal.

I took a break from PatNet to understand where the site is going, and if Heartiste is any indication, it's time to bail out. I would love to know where @dan8267 and @iwog went. It's time to find a better forum.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 7:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

AD says
views on the book


I haven't read it, so I don't have enough information to form an opinion.

AD says
Do you agree that regardless of economic status.... will reliably score lower than whites....


I think there is a lot of individual variation, and different people might define "reliably" differently. I have met individual persons of different colors who seem much more (or less) intelligent than one might expect based on publicly reported average standardized test scores.

It is politically unfashionable to say that average scores correlate with color, but I have already commented on PatNet that Muslims and non-Muslims differ significantly even within the same color. After centuries of inbreeding and killing the disbelievers (atheists and agnostics tend to have the highest IQ scores of any religious or non-religious group), Muslim Pakistanis tend on average to do significantly worse than Hindu Indians. Likewise in Egypt, Coptic Christians tend to do better than Egyptian Muslims. Islam started in the Arabian peninsula and spread initially to Africa, so it has mostly afflicted brown people, except for when Muslims conquered much of Europe. Islam tends to produce illiteracy or limited education; Madrassahs teach kids to memorize the Koran, and it is often their only book. To the extent that Islam correlates with color, it would tend to bring down the scores of the colors it afflicts most widely.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 8:08pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

AD says
why Patrick's site


PatNet became popular during and after the housing bubble, but Patrick is a perma-bear on housing. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. He would have done better in the long run if he had taken out a mortgage and bought a house in 2010, because people who did that in his area have got a better ROI than buying stock. @iwog was more objective, and based his timing on evidence rather than stubbornness.

PatNet devolved towards a Nazi site (I mean that literally, as in one user identified himself as "a national socialist" and another threatened violence and "civil war", and others continue to hold similar views). As PatNet has devolved, more people have left. I have been leaving, and returned only briefly today to reply to MisterLearnToCode, whom I respect and whose email landed in my inbox.

I'm not planning on staying.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 8:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rin says
the gaydar problem


Again, why is that a problem? Jerry Seinfeld used to joke that people assumed he was gay because he was "thin, single, and neat." In one episode, he and George (based on Larry David) pretended to be gay so that George could avoid having a girlfriend. Both Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David went on to make more than $100 million each. Jerry did a whole show called Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, where he invited other comedians out for coffee; most of the other comedians were male, so they were two males sitting in a restaurant together. As far as I know, none of them worried about gaydar.

Also, why do you worry about people thinking you're gay, while also worrying about women accusing you of rape? You seem to have a lot of worries lately.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 8:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

AD says
You may call them Nazi


I don't call anyone Nazi unless they are literally, e.g. the guy who posted proudly as "a national socialist" in defense of Hitler. There were a few similar users, e.g. rootvg, Clambo, TheOriginalBankster, and RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks.

AD says
a good investor


@iwog was a good investor. QE and ZIRP and other programs created an extraordinary opportunity for leveraged buyers of real estate, e.g. iwog and Donald Trump. Many made fortunes, e.g. iwog made millions investing in both real estate and stocks. He wasn't a perma-bull, either; he watched closely and traded based on evidence that anyone could see but most didn't.

As far as I can tell, Patrick has got market rate returns on stocks, nothing great. Statistically, the people who bought houses when and where iwog told them to buy did much better than the people who listened to Patrick. ROI for most SF house buyers outperformed the S&P 500 by a wide margin.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 8:41pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rin says
tend to leave 'em alone


I haven't heard that before, but then I haven't dined in Boston in a long time. I liked Locke-Ober and the Ritz Carlton restaurant; both were really nice. I will ask a friend who still works in the industry if they treat different people differently and, if so, why. I haven't heard of high end restaurants treating two straight guys differently from two gay guys, and I wonder how would they know even whether the straight guys are there for a business relationship or a personal one. I wonder if perhaps straight guys trying to impress females might tend to tip more generously for impressive service, for example if he thinks his prospects are better if he seems like a VIP.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 8:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
If we can increase the production of oxycontin, we might be able to get it back down to where it was in the Middle Ages.


Even apart from that, hospitals are making the most of their infinite subsidies, injuring and killing people through inertia including nosocomial infections and medical errors (3rd leading cause of death in the USA), even saline IVs:

New research calls into question what’s in those IV bags that nearly every hospitalized patient gets. Using a different intravenous fluid instead of the usual saline greatly reduced the risk of death or kidney damage, two large studies found.

The difference could mean 50,000 to 70,000 fewer deaths and 100,000 fewer cases of kidney failure each year in the United States, researchers estimate. Some doctors are hoping the results will persuade more hospitals to switch.

‘‘We’ve been sounding the alarm for 20 years,’’ said Dr. John Kellum, a specialist at the University of Pittsburgh. ‘‘It’s purely inertia’’ that prevents a change, he said.
"

These people die very expensively, in the hospital, big money to be made!!!

As noted in the OP, 7 of the top 10 causes of death have increased. Opioids are only one factor, with subsidized fentanyl displacing heroin as the most commonly lethal opiate/opioid.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 8:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Only men can impregnate women.


@Patrick, you persist in denying the existence of intersex persons, who are in fact born that way. Many can and do reproduce as adults.

I have to wonder, what is the motivation for denying other people exist? Looking at your comment about "opinion" (really, your stated rationalizations for lying), is it "motivation by identity"? Does identifying as a software engineer result somehow in wanting to reduce everything to binary code? If so, then why do more successful software engineers (e.g. at Facebook) not suffer the same affliction? More successful software engineers prosper happily coding for many different genders, so why insist that people don't exist when their existence is widely documented?
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 10:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rin says
curious2 says
Locke-Ober

I thought that those guys closed a few years ago?


Yes, 2012.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 11, 10:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
percent


Any sources for that percentage? I have seen significantly higher numbers. 1% works out to more than three million Americans, and even the lowest percentages I've seen add up to millions of people worldwide. Pretending they don't exist is absurd, and a lie from Patrick.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 13, 4:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says

Are any of these statements false?


@Patrick, I addressed one already above and a previous time we discussed this on your site.

Patrick says
among all vertebrates.


Maybe read more about vertebrates on your own site.

On a related point, you misunderstood one of the issues regarding James Damore. You focus on the fact that he expressed an opinion. You ignore the fact that he littered his document with exhortations about what Google executives "need" to do. You make a similar mistake. You have an over-simplified belief about what you call "gender," and by which you seem to mean biological sex. You ignore the fact that many languages (including English and German) have at least three genders, so you end up sounding both wrong and dogmatic about it. More importantly, you arrogate to yourself a unilateral authority to define other people's gender or sex, even though they are adults. Some incredible things you've said about gay people (e.g. that gay people don't exist, there are only people who choose "vice" in order to get easy sex, and you have no theory at all to explain the existence of lesbians including your own cousin) can't possibly make sense even to you. Instead, you have started with an emotional reaction, against #MeToo or something, a fear of loss maybe, and proceeded to attack other people who have never done you any harm, nor threatened any harm. Just as James Damore was not the CEO of Google, and thus came across as incredibly arrogant in telling senior executives that they "need" to do whatever he says, you sound equally arrogant (and, in your case, dishonest and wrong) when you try to re-define the lives of other people. Life is more complicated than you choose to pretend.

And, whatever your feelings about #MeToo or whatever, they aren't a reason to pretend that intersex/trans people don't exist. These are discrete issues. I have cited the World Health Organization, medical journals, and sites dedicated specifically to intersex information. You have pulled crap out of your own posterior, and smeared your own site with it, and frankly it stinks. Fortwhine has his own problems, but now an Indiana / Heartiste echo chamber is developing. It might interest you to read more about the author of Heartiste, Jim Weidman, before you decide to devote yourself and your site to his doctrine.

People have a right to live their own lives. People have a right to the equal protection of the laws. People exist, even if their existence disproves your doctrine (or phony "theory").
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 13, 4:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Define many.


https://www.dictionary.com/browse/many

@CBOETrader, I have already linked to 14 published examples, and they are of course only a subset of the total. In any event, they exist. @Patrick was claiming, falsely, that they don't exist. It reminds me of when Democrats insisted that voter fraud doesn't exist. All you need is one example, e.g. from Jimmy Carter's book, to prove that something exists. I cited 14, and nobody who looks at the data can seriously doubt there are more.

I replied to your other comment already above.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 13, 5:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
why would you waste your time with CBOETrader ? Seriously ?


Why waste time on PatNet at all? I keep leaving, and then people address comments to me specifically, and I should ignore them but I return to answer. There are better things to read.
  curious2   ignore (0)   2019 Mar 13, 9:48pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MrMagic says
curious2 says
My time here is drawing to a close quickly


Should we have a going away party?


That blockquote came from Kakistocracy's comment, not mine. The misattribution provides yet another example of PatNet going downhill, along with broken links and bizarre replacements of special characters that were correct when posted, and Patrick's decision to prevent people from editing their own comments. So, a comment that was originally written correctly and backed by working links becomes partial gibberish unsupported by anything.
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