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  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 19, 3:25pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This really happened

This is the guy who cries about being mistreated.

  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 19, 4:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hey, Trump is doing his job very well.

Trump's job is to get votes while serving the powerful and the corporations. They are very pleased with the gifts he has showered on them.

Trump will announce whatever will get votes PARTICULARLY on subjects of abortions, guns, illegals, jobs, he will continue to direct anger and ridicule of poor people getting free stuff, foreigners, muslims, gays, etc. so long as that results in votes.

Republicans cannot get votes on their true agenda of serving powerful donors.




  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 20, 6:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Trump is actually doing a fantastic job, objectively speaking.

Sure, his personality is out there, but his accomplishments just keep piling up, though you'd never know it from the mainstream media.

He has been treated far worse than Obama ever was. By miles.
Objectively speaking, Trump alone has committed us to civil war in Yemen. He won’t pull out of Syria even though Putin says he might pull out of Venezuela if Trump does so. Do you have some data about Trump saving jobs that is more than window dressing?

  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 20, 7:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

zzyzzx says
The further to the right the closer to fascism by definition.

Racism has proven a useful tool for this administration and more.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 12:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The OP is a lie

The article linked makes no such statement.

In fact the correct headline is "Joe Biden Rallies With Stop & Shop Strikers, Says It Is 'Morally Wrong' How They Are Treated"
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 12:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

continued ...

April 21, 1914: Rockefeller to Lamont Bowers
Telegram received … We profoundly regret this further outbreak of lawlessness with accompanying loss of life.

April 28, 1914: Socialist writer Upton Sinclair's open letter to Rockefeller
I intend to indict you for murder before the people of this country. The charges will be pressed, and I think the verdict will be "Guilty."

I cannot believe that a man who dares to lead a service in a Christian church can be cognizant and therefore guilty of the crimes that have been committed under your authority.

We ask nothing but a friendly talk with you. We ask that in the name of the tens of thousands of men, women and children who are this minute suffering the most dreadful wrongs, directly because of the authority which you personally have given.

June 10, 1914: Rockefeller's version of the events
There was no Ludlow massacre. The engagement started as a desperate fight for life by two small squads of militia against the entire tent colony … There were no women or children shot by the authorities of the State or representatives of the operators … While this loss of life is profoundly to be regretted, it is unjust in the extreme to lay it at the door of the defenders of law and property, who were in no slightest way responsible for it.

September 1914: Abby Rockefeller to John D. Rockefeller, Jr.
I am writing more and more to urge you to leave to me the petty details of the houses, places, etc. even though I realize they will not be as well or as inexpensively done; and throw the full force of your thought and time into the big, vital questions that come before you.

January 26, 1915: Rockefeller's testimony before the United States Commission on Industrial Relations
"I should hope that I could never reach the point where I would not be constantly progressing to something higher, better -- both with reference to my own acts and … to the general situation in the company. My hope is that I am progressing. It is my desire to."

"You are, like the church says, 'growing in grace?'"

"I hope so. I hope the growth is in that direction."

September 20, 1915: Rockefeller speaks to the miners
We are all partners in a way. Capital can't get along without you men, and you men can't get along without capital. When anybody comes along and tells you that capital and labor can't get along together that man is your worst enemy. We are getting along friendly enough here in this mine right now, and there is no reason why you men cannot get along with the managers of my company when I am back in New York.

September, 1915: United Mine Workers' leader John Lawson comments on Junior's visit to Colorado
I believe Mr. Rockefeller is sincere … I believe he is honestly trying to improve conditions among the men in the mines. His efforts probably will result in some betterments which I hope may prove to be permanent.

However, Mr. Rockefeller has missed the fundamental trouble in the coal camps. Democracy has never existed among the men who toil under the ground — the coal companies have stamped it out. Now, Mr. Rockefeller is not restoring democracy; he is trying to substitute paternalism for it.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 1:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

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The Norwegian 1 percent decided not to rely simply on the army; in 1926 they formed a social movement called the Patriotic League, recruiting mainly from the middle class. By the 1930s, the League included as many as 100,000 people for armed protection of strike breakers—this in a country of only 3 million!

The Labor Party, in the meantime, opened its membership to anyone, whether or not in a unionized workplace. Middle-class Marxists and some reformers joined the party. Many rural farm workers joined the Labor Party, as well as some small landholders. Labor leadership understood that in a protracted struggle, constant outreach and organizing was needed to a nonviolent campaign. In the midst of the growing polarization, Norway’s workers launched another wave of strikes and boycotts in 1928.

The Depression hit bottom in 1931. More people were jobless there than in any other Nordic country. Unlike in the U.S., the Norwegian union movement kept the people thrown out of work as members, even though they couldn’t pay dues. This decision paid off in mass mobilizations. When the employers’ federation locked employees out of the factories to try to force a reduction of wages, the workers fought back with massive demonstrations.

Many people then found that their mortgages were in jeopardy. (Sound familiar?) The Depression continued, and farmers were unable to keep up payment on their debts. As turbulence hit the rural sector, crowds gathered nonviolently to prevent the eviction of families from their farms. The Agrarian Party, which included larger farmers and had previously been allied with the Conservative Party, began to distance itself from the 1 percent; some could see that the ability of the few to rule the many was in doubt.

By 1935, Norway was on the brink. The Conservative-led government was losing legitimacy daily; the 1 percent became increasingly desperate as militancy grew among workers and farmers. A complete overthrow might be just a couple years away, radical workers thought. However, the misery of the poor became more urgent daily, and the Labor Party felt increasing pressure from its members to alleviate their suffering, which it could do only if it took charge of the government in a compromise agreement with the other side.

This it did. In a compromise that allowed owners to retain the right to own and manage their firms, Labor in 1935 took the reins of government in coalition with the Agrarian Party. They expanded the economy and started public works projects to head toward a policy of full employment that became the keystone of Norwegian economic policy. Labor’s success and the continued militancy of workers enabled steady inroads against the privileges of the 1 percent, to the point that majority ownership of all large firms was taken by the public interest. (There is an entry on this case as well at the Global Nonviolent Action Database.)

The 1 percent thereby lost its historic power to dominate the economy and society. Not until three decades later could the Conservatives return to a governing coalition, having by then accepted the new rules of the game, including a high degree of public ownership of the means of production, extremely progressive taxation, strong business regulation for the public good and the virtual abolition of poverty. When Conservatives eventually tried a fling with neoliberal policies, the economy generated a bubble and headed for disaster. (Sound familiar?)

Labor stepped in, seized the three largest banks, fired the top management, left the stockholders without a dime and refused to bail out any of the smaller banks. The well-purged Norwegian financial sector was not one of those countries that lurched into crisis in 2008; carefully regulated and much of it publicly owned, the sector was solid.

Although Norwegians may not tell you about this the first time you meet them, the fact remains that their society’s high level of freedom and broadly-shared prosperity began when workers and farmers, along with middle class allies, waged a nonviolent struggle that empowered the people to govern for the common good.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 1:14am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Browse the Global Nonviolent Action Database by a number of search methods including geographic map of instances.


  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 1:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        


  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 1:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Right wing conservatives HAVE ALWAYS dominated the ranks of armed forced and enforcement. THEIR RANKS COERCE TO INSTILL RIGHT WING VALUES.


These groups have an official monopoly on violence and HAVE BEEN ordered to stop civil uprisings from left wing union organizers all throughout history MANY TIMES including deadly force and civil massacres.

  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 11:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NuttBoxer says
Government doesn't fix anything, they only make it worse.
That is the libertarian meme, also popular with overpaid agit-prop mouthpieces like Limbaugh and Hannity. What it doesn't say speaks volumes.

That's not true for wealthy and powerful who spend billions per year keeping us from climbing into the driver's seat of the government we own on top of the billions they spend for lobbyists to make sure their wishes are fulfilled.

You might modify that slogan to read "A corrupted government can only serve its donors"

If people pass laws that are edited to make them backfire then we lose. Don't fail to notice that. Minus the corruption, government becomes the tool it was designed to be instead of the tool of the rich.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 5:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
Which wing was it that used terror and violence against Blacks for 100 years
That was the right wing too.

In fact many KKK members are employed in local government positions like mayor, owners, police, etc. They are not left wing. Right wing is always looking for a way to get rich and the source of wealth is labor. Slave labor is the ticket to wealth, and there are ways to enjoy that without calling it slavery, like using illegals, like using prisoners for everything, like using prisoners in foreign countries, using children, like abusive internships, etc. Wealth searches the world to invest where the labor is virtually free and tax credits amount to an unbeatable advantage. There are so many opportunities to make shady deals and call it economic investment.

If you are thinking that the southern strategy confuses right and left the actual difference is clear. Nixon went after hippies and blacks and Republican party became a party for the donor class and people who want to legislate against abortion, want to have guns, are white, want to deprive the poor a safety net, want religious agenda, want all kinds of things that don't affect wealth going to fewer hands.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 6:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Right wing actually owns violence, privilege and secures that privilege with massive investment in synchronized disinformation which insists that they represent the only truths to all who are vulnerable or easily persuaded into enjoying feelings of outrage and white supremacy.

People see themselves as millionaires in the near future and want to protect all the advantages there, many enjoy seeing themselves in that light.

Many people enjoy parroting Limbaugh et al, with surly authority as if they are already owners of a vast fortune, especially people who aren't doing well on the fringes of society, and not disenfranchised neckbeards in mom's basement.

This putting on airs is all too common a way to deflect criticism for those unable to pull their own weight. It's very boring, all too common, and a good reason to ostracize someone, they will always have an authoritarian comeback and a taunt to cover their dumb asses thinking that they are the only ones who are smart.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 9:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

zzyzzx says

President Trump’s job approval ratings currently sits at a robust 53 percent, a full seven points higher than Barack Obama at this same point his presidency.
Robust how?

His approval rating has been reported by all the other media at 37%, a 3% slide since the Mueller report.

Try a robust search engine.


Also you might see that the investigation netted a profit and cost nothing to perform. You don’t mind the 20 million spent on investigating Clinton do you? That was 4 years and nothing came of it at all.

53% wow.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 9:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

You guys seem really content with the 1% and no one is talking about overcoming their control.

The Norwegians and Swedes did it.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 23, 12:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        


The FBI arrested a 69-year-old New Mexico man who allegedly illegally detained immigrants crossing the border under the guise of working for the United States Border Patrol.

Larry Mitchell Hopkins, who runs The United Constitutional Patriots (UCP), an armed border militia group that spreads far-right conspiracies and rounds up asylum seekers on the border, was arrested by FBI in New Mexico Saturday on charges of possessing firearms and ammunition as a convicted felon.

Recent video footage released by UCP shows two members holding what appear to be semi-automatic rifles near immigrants, many of them children.

The group also peddles conspiracy theories and produces a radio show where members spread information about QAnon, and accuse migrants of associating with ISIS. Hopkins has also claimed that president Trump has personally asked him about ‘Muslim immigration.’
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 23, 7:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Another article about the same group of people tell us about them planning to assassinate Obama, Clinton, and Soros, possibly others too.

The leader likes those QAnon conspiracy theories.

All these fine patriots with their arsenals can finally get their jollies and feel manly with their paramilitary gear.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 24, 1:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

One UCP member told Reuters that they had "helped" Border Patrol detain 5,600 migrants in the last two months.

By improperly holding people against their will, whether those people legally crossed the border or not, members of the United Constitutional Patriots have opened themselves to charges of assault, false imprisonment, kidnapping and impersonating law enforcement officers. (Hopkins, notably, was previously arrested in 2006 for impersonating law enforcement and illegal possession of a firearm and thus is presumably well aware his actions were not legal.) The UCP members are also likely trespassing on privately-held or federal land.

More importantly, it is perfectly legal under U.S. law for people to cross the border without papers and apply for asylum and other forms of humanitarian relief. So if anyone is “illegal” in a confrontation with Hopkins' followers, it is the United Constitutional Patriots.

Quigley says
DANGEROUS guns are remarkably ineffective. All those targets still soil the air with their breath.
What a murderous thing to say. Well beyond shitposting.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 24, 1:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
ways to undermine US democracy, such as abolishing the Electoral College.
Electoral College , the system wherein the number of votes are not the determinant of an election.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 24, 1:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I pity you rugged libertarians when your apartment catches fire.

Let's just say any time voters get something substantive out of government that's Bolshevism, unless it goes to wealthy and powerful recipients.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 24, 3:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The world doesn't have to exist just for the wealthy and powerful.

Human dignity used to be an advertised feature of capitalism before it came out that we can't afford it.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 25, 12:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

P N Dr Lo R says
People on the right just went about their business because they have lives.
No they put their businesses on hold to the greatest extent possible until they could get a Republican into office.

This is way more than just a sequestering, this is a pulling in of business activities in general until the tax cutting party begins and the taxpayer grants can resume.

Right whingers did anything BUT go about their business. They spent billions lobbying for more of our tax money to go to them instead of benefitting us taxpayers, and they undermined us at the state level like thieves too with ALEC-written giveaways.

All you guys are pathetic gaslighters and wannabe crooks.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 25, 1:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

OccasionalCortex says
people who dared vote for Trump
Okay you had your little temper tantrum now that everybody else on the entire planet sees that Trump is shit, it's time for you to let go of it.

LET GO OF IT and do something to save yourself! You can't elect your way out of a corrupt ponzi scheme, you have to become politically active. Their hold over us is not so great as they would like you to think.

Be brave.


People have done this shit before and won. People are doing it all over the world. Make them stop saying that Americans are the most gullible sheep that ever lived.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 25, 1:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

OccasionalCortex says
No we don't. We have a Republic instead. And I am thankful each and every day for that.
Pious horseshit
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 25, 1:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

P N Dr Lo R says
College students are the funniest and still are in their Marxist totalitarian rage.
College students are always the ones who try to make a difference in the world.

Who else do you think is going to do it, the Rotary? The Chamber Of Commerce? The Daughters Of The American Revolution? The Citizens United? The John Birch Society? Haaaahahahahahahahahahaha

"Marxist totalitarian rage" oh puh-LEEEZE grandpa take your pills.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 25, 1:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

d6rB says
what we are supposed to do?
The best nutshell of that I have ever seriously heard is this: Think Globally, Act Locally.

Help your community: it's more important than you think.
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 25, 1:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This looks pretty cool:


Browse the Global Nonviolent Action Database by a number of search methods including geographic map of instances.


(this is just a screen grab)
  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 25, 1:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Investigate her if you want, no Democrat is trying to shield her. Go have it.
No, stop investigating her. Us taxpayers are not a bottomless pit of money for Republican waste. You already tore into her using 20 million dollars over 4 years and got nothing. NOTHING AT ALL. ZERO ZIP NADA. HOURS AND HOURS OF TESTIMONY AND NOTHING AT ALL CAME OF ANY OF IT,


  jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 25, 1:25pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

P N Dr Lo R says
They'd have a better chance than today's college students since they're normal people.
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