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By elliemae   Follow   Fri, 17 Feb 2012, 7:52am   2,179 views   14 comments
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1. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (17) 785 threads 7,972 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   1   7:25pm Fri 17 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   Protected   His estimated ER bill: $418,000. And that doesn’t include ambulance rides, X-rays, tests, treatments and several stays in intensive care. That's like a lifetime of medical care! It's wrong if this prevents other people from getting care like that construction worker in this thread.

2. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 182 threads 4,620 comments Premium

   2   9:09pm Fri 17 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Protected   Aren't the police supposed to kick people like this to death and dumpster them on the way to get donuts?

3. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (17) 785 threads 7,972 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   3   1:37pm Sat 18 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Protected   APOCALYPSEFUCK is Tony Manero says Aren't the police supposed to kick people like this to death and dumpster them on the way to get donuts? No, the people are used to make Krispy Kreme's Soylent Green Donuts.

4. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 416 threads 7,009 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

   4   10:00am Sun 19 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   Dan8267 says That's like a lifetime of medical care! It's wrong if this prevents other people from getting care like that construction worker in this thread. That's exactly the point. Preventive Medicine goes a long way toward cutting down on ER costs. As long as people are forced to use emergency rooms for their primry medical care, costs will be astronomical.

5. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (17) 785 threads 7,972 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   5   12:40pm Sun 19 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected   elliemae says As long as people are forced to use emergency rooms for their primry medical care, costs will be astronomical. True. And the hospitals definitely shuttle everyone to the emergency room to maximize costs. They need to be fined or they won't stop that practice.

6. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 416 threads 7,009 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

   6   2:11pm Sun 19 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)   Dan8267 says And the hospitals definitely shuttle everyone to the emergency room to maximize costs. Not sure what you mean by that. Hospitals themselves are designed to treat acute conditions or those that require inpatient intervention. Emergency rooms are designed to be the intake arena for sudden illnesses, accidents, etc. They're staffed at a higher level, and the overhead is astronomical as opposed to urgent cares or physician offices. Federal law mandates that patients be seen in the ER, no matter what their healthcare complaint might be. Patients who don't have insurance or aren't able to pay cash at the time of their visit end up going to the ER because they have no other choice. Physicians who aren't willing to take cash patients or to take payments are being sound businessmen (and business women). This is because once they accept the patient, they're responsible for treating the patient regardless of the ultimate cost.

7. Patrick Follow Befriend (54) 5,240 threads 6,175 comments 46 male Menlo Park, CA Premium

   7   7:41pm Mon 20 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   Protected   At Pioneer Valley Hospital, where one day he showed up six times, Snoddy said, staff called him "Minty Fresh." I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

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   8   9:15pm Mon 20 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Protected   It gets worse - in Australia, the really hardcore goners drink mentholated spirits. You can smell it 10 yards away. Patrick says At Pioneer Valley Hospital, where one day he showed up six times, Snoddy said, staff called him "Minty Fresh." I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

9. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 416 threads 7,009 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

   9   10:11pm Wed 22 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Patrick says I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol. Anything with alcohol will do - but at least they smell good.

10. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 182 threads 4,620 comments Premium

    10   11:28am Sun 26 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   Mentholated spirits just smells evil, really vile when it's wafting from a body that hasn't seen soap or water in years. You can never forget it. elliemae says Patrick says I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol. Anything with alcohol will do - but at least they smell good. Eschew Obfuscation

11. Patrick Follow Befriend (54) 5,240 threads 6,175 comments 46 male Menlo Park, CA Premium

    11   12:20pm Sun 26 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   I think non-homelss people smell pretty good when they're drunk. Especially women. Of course that's normal alcohol.

12. mdovell Follow Befriend (4) 28 threads 776 comments

    12   12:39pm Tue 28 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Patrick says I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol. Which also explains why the non alcoholic ones came out. Or a promotion of Tom's of Maine products that usually don't have any. They did the same argument with sudafedrine being behind the counter. Then again there's always Henry Earl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Earl http://www.monkeygumbo.com/wee/news/henryearl/ Arrested over 1,000 times for being drunk in public. He usually isn't violent though.

13. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 416 threads 7,009 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

    13   10:43pm Tue 28 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Patrick says I think non-homelss people smell pretty good when they're drunk. Especially women. Of course that's normal alcohol. ...and I'm assuming that you're drunk, too?

14. Patrick Follow Befriend (54) 5,240 threads 6,175 comments 46 male Menlo Park, CA Premium

    14   4:28pm Wed 29 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected   Can't tell if anyone else is drunk when I am. Which is about once a month, just right for good mental health.