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By elliemae   Follow   Thu, 16 Feb 2012, 11:52pm PST   2,285 views   14 comments
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Dan8267   Fri, 17 Feb 2012, 11:25am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 1

His estimated ER bill: $418,000. And that doesn’t include ambulance rides, X-rays, tests, treatments and several stays in intensive care.

That's like a lifetime of medical care! It's wrong if this prevents other people from getting care like that construction worker in this thread.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   Fri, 17 Feb 2012, 1:09pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)     Comment 2

Aren't the police supposed to kick people like this to death and dumpster them on the way to get donuts?

Dan8267   Sat, 18 Feb 2012, 5:37am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)     Comment 3

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Tony Manero says

Aren't the police supposed to kick people like this to death and dumpster them on the way to get donuts?

No, the people are used to make Krispy Kreme's Soylent Green Donuts.

elliemae   Sun, 19 Feb 2012, 2:00am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)     Comment 4

Dan8267 says

That's like a lifetime of medical care! It's wrong if this prevents other people from getting care like that construction worker in this thread.

That's exactly the point. Preventive Medicine goes a long way toward cutting down on ER costs. As long as people are forced to use emergency rooms for their primry medical care, costs will be astronomical.

Dan8267   Sun, 19 Feb 2012, 4:40am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 5

elliemae says

As long as people are forced to use emergency rooms for their primry medical care, costs will be astronomical.

True. And the hospitals definitely shuttle everyone to the emergency room to maximize costs. They need to be fined or they won't stop that practice.

elliemae   Sun, 19 Feb 2012, 6:11am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)     Comment 6

Dan8267 says

And the hospitals definitely shuttle everyone to the emergency room to maximize costs.

Not sure what you mean by that. Hospitals themselves are designed to treat acute conditions or those that require inpatient intervention. Emergency rooms are designed to be the intake arena for sudden illnesses, accidents, etc. They're staffed at a higher level, and the overhead is astronomical as opposed to urgent cares or physician offices.

Federal law mandates that patients be seen in the ER, no matter what their healthcare complaint might be. Patients who don't have insurance or aren't able to pay cash at the time of their visit end up going to the ER because they have no other choice. Physicians who aren't willing to take cash patients or to take payments are being sound businessmen (and business women). This is because once they accept the patient, they're responsible for treating the patient regardless of the ultimate cost.

Patrick   Mon, 20 Feb 2012, 11:41am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 7

At Pioneer Valley Hospital, where one day he showed up six times, Snoddy said, staff called him "Minty Fresh."

I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   Mon, 20 Feb 2012, 1:15pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)     Comment 8

It gets worse - in Australia, the really hardcore goners drink mentholated spirits. You can smell it 10 yards away.

Patrick says

At Pioneer Valley Hospital, where one day he showed up six times, Snoddy said, staff called him "Minty Fresh."

I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

elliemae   Wed, 22 Feb 2012, 2:11pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)     Comment 9

Patrick says

I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

Anything with alcohol will do - but at least they smell good.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   Sun, 26 Feb 2012, 3:28am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 10

Mentholated spirits just smells evil, really vile when it's wafting from a body that hasn't seen soap or water in years. You can never forget it.

elliemae says

Patrick says

I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

Anything with alcohol will do - but at least they smell good.

Eschew Obfuscation

Patrick   Sun, 26 Feb 2012, 4:20am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 11

I think non-homelss people smell pretty good when they're drunk. Especially women.

Of course that's normal alcohol.

mdovell   Tue, 28 Feb 2012, 4:39am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 12

Patrick says

I didn't know that about hard-core alcoholics drinking mouthwash. Makes sense though. Cheap untaxed alcohol.

Which also explains why the non alcoholic ones came out. Or a promotion of Tom's of Maine products that usually don't have any. They did the same argument with sudafedrine being behind the counter.

Then again there's always Henry Earl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Earl
http://www.monkeygumbo.com/wee/news/henryearl/
Arrested over 1,000 times for being drunk in public. He usually isn't violent though.

elliemae   Tue, 28 Feb 2012, 2:43pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 13

Patrick says

I think non-homelss people smell pretty good when they're drunk. Especially women. Of course that's normal alcohol.

...and I'm assuming that you're drunk, too?

Patrick   Wed, 29 Feb 2012, 8:28am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 14

Can't tell if anyone else is drunk when I am. Which is about once a month, just right for good mental health.

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