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Map of Stars within 50 light years


By Dan8267   Follow   Tue, 6 Mar 2012, 2:57pm PST   4,733 views   19 comments
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http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/50lys.html

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TPB   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 1:51am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 1

I thought astronomers were crucified in the middle ages for NOT believing that Earth or our Sun for that matter, was NOT the center of the Universe. So here we are centuries later, and we're still the center of the Universe in spite of our selves.

Interesting picture, thought I'm curious to know is the orbital path of the sun, and the relationship to other star's orbital path. How can we be in a spiral galaxy and yet remain static?

Dan8267   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 2:18am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 2

TPB says

So here we are centuries later, and we're still the center of the Universe in spite of our selves.

Not quite. The map shows stars in polar coordinates relative to the sun. It does not imply that the stars revolve around the sun. We accept that the stars revolve around the galactic center, which is indicated on the map.

leo707   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 2:52am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 3

Nice map.

Now we just need to figure out how to travel 50 light years.

TPB   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 4:53am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 4

Dan8267 says

ot quite. The map shows stars in polar coordinates relative to the sun. It does not imply that the stars revolve around the sun. We accept that the stars revolve around the galactic center, which is indicated on the map.

I'm a "the whole picture" kinda guy. If all we only know "This" then, we have no idea what "That" is.

Dan8267   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 6:10am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 5

TPB   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 7:28am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 6

Dan8267   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 8:20am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 7

I just want to see how much of a conversation we can have using only YouTube clips.

TPB   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 10:18am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 8

TMAC54   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 11:39am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 9

Thanks for the mind tweaker Dan. I found these buried in email files. Hopefully they will help others realize tailgating won't get us there any faster.





Antares is the 15th brightest star in the sky. 
It is fairly close* to us too... only about 600 light years away.
(Meaning that its light, traveling at 186,282 miles per second, only takes 600 years to reach us!)
 
[*Note on the "close" distance: To put this 600 light years into perspective...
The furthest celestial body visible to the naked eye is the Andromeda Galaxy (M31)
is approximately 800,000 "parsecs" away (800 kiloparsecs)... that's roughly 2,610,000 light years away!
The "particle horizon", the horizon of the visible part of the universe, is 4 "gigaparsecs" away...
That's 4 billion parsecs, or 13.2 billion (13,200,000,000) light years away from us!
Our sun is only 8.3 light-minutes from the earth!]
 
It's almost unfathomable to think about.



Now how big are you?
And how big are the things that upset you day to day?
Or for that matter, the things that are important?
Keep life in prospective!

Dan8267   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 11:44am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 10

Dan8267   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 11:46am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 11

Dan8267   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 12:33pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 12

TMAC54 says

It's almost unfathomable to think about.



Now how big are you?

Planck Length is about 1.6 × 10^-35m. Humans are about 1.6 × 10^0 m. So humans are 10^35 times larger than Planck Length

The universe is estimated to be about 90 billion light years, although it's still up to debate. But let's use that as an estimate. 90 billion light years = 8.51447556 × 10^26 meters. Using a logarithmic scale, humans are pretty much in the middle of the scale of scales.

Kevin   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 3:56pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 13

Dan8267 says

Using a logarithmic scale, humans are pretty much in the middle of the scale of scales.

10^-35th and 10 ^ 26th doesn't really put us in the middle. We're center right ;-)

Also, this is all as measured from human perspective with human technological limitations. For all we know at this point we could be much further to the right or left of that scale, but we simply lack the technology to observe the smaller or larger objects. Small seems particularly difficult.

Dan8267   Wed, 7 Mar 2012, 11:58pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 14

The left side of the ruler is pretty much solid. The right side is open.

thunderlips11   Thu, 8 Mar 2012, 12:08am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 15

Arcturus. A dream that will never come true: Getting a chance to get close enough to see it in all it's glory with my naked eye from an orbit around it.

Another much easier dream: A manned trip to Io.

I think we need a "Space Party" that works to get scientific and exploration minded people in government.

Imagine if we spent $200B on space exploration every year.

TPB   Thu, 8 Mar 2012, 12:26am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 16

thunderlips11 says

I think we need a "Space Party"

Oh Goody, I'll handle the invitations and music!

marcus   Wed, 14 Mar 2012, 2:09pm PDT   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 17

marcus   Wed, 14 Mar 2012, 2:14pm PDT   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 18

I'm a HS Math teacher, but about 40 years ago, my geometry teacher showed me this (above) on a piece of paper he would flip over that we could see through, saying that it was proof that God had a sense of humor.

Please, no religious arguments, just sharing an anecdote from my youth. I always show this to kids, sharing the same story. Who knows, maybe the guy that made this (on Igmur and posted on Reddit) got it from someone who got it from someone etc., etc, connecting back to me or my geometry teacher.

TPB   Fri, 16 Mar 2012, 12:55pm PDT   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 19

blink blink

EightBall says

The Scale of the Universe.

http://htwins.net/scale2/

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