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Nelson Mandela, terrorist
Yep, that Nelson Mandela. He is officially a terrorist according to our government. If Mandela can be considered a terrorist, what makes you think you can't?
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Dan8267 says
For precisely the reasons evidenced in the video. The man speaks the truth.
Truth is treason in the empire of lies .
The man is an intellectual equivalent of Muhammad Ali.
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Dan8267 says
Why isnt he dead ?
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Dan8267 says
If the news hasnt reach you yet in North Korea.. here is the memo!
US President George W Bush has signed a bill removing Nelson Mandela and South African leaders from the US terror watch list, officials say (2008)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7484517.stm
Maybe you should ask why your buddy Billy Bob Clinton do this.. he had 8 years!
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thomas.wong1986 says
I know that. It was in the video. The point is that Nelson Mandela should never had been on the list. The fact that he ever was on the list shows how arbitrary and political the list is.
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Dan8267 says
Funny... your buddy Billy Bob Clinton missed that.
You had 8 years to remind him of that ? What happened ?
Should have not been...? Oh really ?
So the leader of a Umkhonto we Sizwe, funded by South African communist party, supplied by Cuba and USSR, an orginzation that commited sabatoge, assassination, and bombings that left many civilians dead was what now ?
You should thank your friends at the PLO for that back in Munich '72. Didnt matter who you wee they would kill you just the same. The world began to understand what Terrorists are all about back then.
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thomas.wong1986 says
Since when is Bill Clinton my buddy? Sure, compared to Bush and Obama, Clinton was a god, but by my standards he was a mediocre president.
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The Palestine Liberation Organization are my friends? You're making an awful lot of assumptions of my politics that bear no resemblance to reality. In other words, you're all up in my Kool Aid, and you don't even know the flavor.
But you seem to be making the point that Nelson Mandela should be considered a terrorist. If so, I leave the judgement to the audience. Some arguments are so ridiculous they don't need to be refuted.
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Partisan cribbing is Americans' favorite past time. It also ensures that the conversations are steered away from the actual problem of relevance so that people will start attacking each other instead of realizing what's the root cause of the said problem.
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Spot-on.
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uomo_senza_nome says
So it's not just happening to me then? Every time I talk to a conservative, he thinks I'm a "liberal elitist, big government, hippie tree hugger". And every time I talk to a liberal, he thinks I'm a "Bible thumping, red-neck, pro-corporation anarchist". And I'm a hard-core atheist?
That's why I've been saying that people always see their polar opposite in me, and it says more about what's going on their mind than mine. It's nice to know that other people are experiencing this too.
Of course, it's my own fault for discrediting bad arguments even when I agree with their conclusions. A conclusion is worth defending only if its worth defending with only correct arguments. For example, there are plenty of good reasons to impeach Obama; stupid allegations of his being born in Kenya is not one of them.
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Wrong again, there are no reasons to "impeach" President Obama, who is American born. He provided evidence, so thats not an issue. But like every President their term is up and may be re-elected or not based on their accomplishments and policies they have enacted. None of his actions qualifies as "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors".
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thomas.wong1986 says
No reasons my ass. As I have previously written:
1. Obama kept open Guantanamo Bay after taking office making him as responsible for the atrocities committed there as Bush is.
2. When Obama finally ended his policy of torture at Gitmo, he continued extraordinary rendition, which is just code for outsourcing torture. He should be tried as a war criminal for this, too.
3. Obama has ordered the assignation of U.S. citizens. Both The New York Times and The Washington Post confirm that the Obama White House has now expressly authorized the CIA to kill al-Alwaki no matter where he is found, no matter his distance from a battlefield. Article No matter what you think of al-Alwaki, every person especially a U.S. citizen is entitled to a fair trial before execution. Obama is guilty of attempted first degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder. What is even scarier is that our government now has a list of citizens it wants to execute. We don't know who's on the list, but we know it's more than just one person.
[Note: Since I wrote that, al-Alwaki was under Obama's order, not for anything he did, but for what he said. He was assassinated without trial for the crime of exercising freedom of speech.]
4. Obama has murdered hundreds of innocent civilians in drone attacks including children accomplishing only deteriorations of relationships with Pakistan and other Middle Eastern nations.
5. The passing of the NDAA, allowing the military to detain civilians indefinitely without trial or access to lawyers or due process of the law.
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Only a few people in this society are willing to talk about deterioration of our civil rights and how this government has become an evil empire.
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FortWayne says
And unfortunately, there seems to be none in the media except Stewart and Colbert. For all the huffing and puffing that Fox and MSNBC do, they never attack the truly evil issues. Maybe once in a while Rachel Maddow will say something, but that's it.