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Do you still like Obama? This will change your mind, if you have one.


By Honest Abe   Follow   Fri, 9 Mar 2012, 6:20am   5,557 views   51 comments
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http://www.examiner.com/progressive-in-philadelphia/obama-s-war-on-the-bill-of-rights

Here is a well stated article that should make your hair stand on end, if it doesn't you're not paying attention. What you'll also notice is that Obama (Democrats) are the opposite side of THE SAME COIN (Bush - Republicans).

In other words the beast is comprised of two components...democrats and republicans. Both are destroying our rights, both are destroying our economy, both are destroying our monetary system, both are destroying our freedom, both are destroying the consititution, both are destroying the rule of law, both want to maintain the status quo, both want more and more power, both want more war and more taxes to create and maintain it, both want more laws to further control the people. (I'm probably on the government kill list for stating the obvious...you may be too for a variety of vague reasons)

Government is not your friend (do it for me, do it to me).

There is only ONE candidate who rejects the establishment's war against its own citizens - and you know who it is. Win or lose, the Ron Paul Revolution won't stop with this election. Freedom and liberty need to control government - not the other way around.

Good day.

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  1. iwog


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    1   10:49am Fri 9 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   Protected  

    Honest Abe says

    EDVARD- you asked about why any of the Repub hopefuls would do a better job and be more effective. Praise God, perhaps you really are open.

    He asked YOU, not some anonymous propaganda book.

    Is there a reason you can't list in a few sentences the reasons why a Republican president would be better?

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    2   12:05am Sun 11 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike  

    Honest Abe says

    Who do you think is "the enemy within"?

    Answer - the emotional fool who can not handle reality.

    Facts:

    Currently our "socialist" democrat President is forced in all ways to be to politically to the right of Eisenhower or Nixon. And yet the idiot public is so easy to manipulate, that they will believe some jackass on the radio or TV that tells them what they want to hear, "be scared, this guy is a socialist."

    When Kennedy lowered taxes from a level that was in fact too high, the "conservatives" of the day argued that this was irresponsible and would lead to dangerous deficits.

    (the dangerous deficits came much later - when the so called supply side "voodoo economics" was taken way too far. )

    Now we live in a surreal world where "conservatives" swear not to raise taxes from the lowest they've been since WWII, even if it means bankrupting us, supposedly for our own good.

    Who is the enemy within ?

    Well everyone knows that humans tend to believe what they want to believe. The enemy within is the arrogant selfish child within, who sure would like to believe that what is best for himself personally in the short run must be what's best for the country. Why does he believe this, because his overlords fund ridiculously illogical propaganda that say the lower taxes are the better off we'll be. You know, because government can't do anything right and stuff.

    That's what idiots like Abe believe, that's what he wants to hear from his politicians, and by golly that's what he does hear.

    Our country is now too much under the control of the rich, who arrogantly believe whatever fits their self interest and who only give lip service to the idea of caring about the progress of our country.

    The bullshit divide and conquer arguments are getting old. We argue about what is true, and what government should or shouldn't do while major problems are not being addressed.

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    3   8:29am Fri 9 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    iwog says

    I'm satisfied with Obama's job as president and will be voting for him again.

    Sure it's fun for you, his economic policies are benefiting you and your investor class buddies in America.

    iwog says

    Ron Paul might be an exception, but he can't win and his economic policies are horrid.

    Well there you go, you don't want the BEST president for OUR country, because it wouldn't be the best choice for YOUR finances.

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    edvard2 says

    Instead perhaps a better approach would be to make some real points as to why any of the current batch of Republican hopefuls would do a better job would be more effective.

    Good luck with that. The last time TPB was asked for reason why he was going to vote Republican, he had kittens.

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    5   8:41pm Fri 9 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    So what you're saying is you can't answer the question?

    I'm not surprised.

    I can answer the question. Obama:

    1. Stands between a Republican house and economic depression
    2. Nominates Supreme Court justices who don't believe corporations have civil rights
    3. Fights terrorist threats without declaring war and spending trillions of dollars.
    4. Removed troops from Iraq as promised.
    5. Has a timeline for wrapping up Afghanistan as promised.
    6. Saved General Motors
    7. Killed Osama Bin Laden
    8. Took a step towards intelligent health care
    9. Has fought further tax breaks for rich people
    10. Has cut taxes for workers

    Shall I go on? Obviously the question DOES have an answer. You just don't want to talk about it.

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    6   3:14pm Sat 10 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Abe always either gets real quiet at this part of the conversation, or he starts talking about commie liberal sociopaths or something, using some other meaningless emotional generality that only describes how he feels about the propaganda he has bought, hook line and sinker.

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    7   3:22pm Sat 10 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Nomograph says

    I heard that Obama wasn't even born in the US.

    You need not be born "IN the US" to be a US citizen. President Obama is a US Citizen and as such is legally qualified to run in the US presidential election. You should know this by now.

    John McCain wasnt born "In the US", but in US territory.

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    8   9:50pm Sat 10 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected  

    Honest Abe says

    Who do you think is "the enemy within"?

    That would be you. You're far more destructive to the United States than any liberal.

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    9   7:59am Sun 11 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Honest Abe says

    Who do you think is "the enemy within"?

    The people looking for "enemies within" are generally low-perfoming bottom feeders who are looking for someone to blame for their problems.

    While these folks themselves aren't "enemies" per se, they are burdensome to society as a whole.

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    10   10:47am Sun 11 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Doesnt matter. Obama or not. The middle class is finished. The dollar is in decline. We are eating each other to survive now.

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    11   7:30am Mon 12 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected  

    marcus says

    Currently our "socialist" democrat President is forced in all ways to be to politically to the right of Eisenhower or Nixon. And yet the idiot public is so easy to manipulate, that they will believe some jackass on the radio or TV that tells them what they want to hear, "be scared, this guy is a socialist."

    Well said.

    Remember, socialism for Big Banks is ok!

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    If ever there was a word that was misused I'd say Socialism and Communism wins that contest by a mile.

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    Nomograph says

    I heard that Obama wasn't even born in the US.

    I heard that Obama's health plan has Death Panels.

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    PLEASE stop playing the foolish "left" vs "right" game here that they use to divide us. BOTH parties are responsible for the mess we're in and BOTH parties had their hands in every one of the egregious and dangerous violations of our Constitution codified in the past several decades. When you look beyond the rhetoric and instead look at actions, there's not a dime's worth of difference between these two bought and paid for (due to our money-dependent election process) parties on the MOST important issues (and I'm NOT talking about the Guns, Gays and God crap they use to bring out the "faithful" at every election). You and your progeny are being robbed BLIND to the tune of TRILLIONS by BOTH parties to placate those who really control "your" politicians, the people who paid to get them elected. And unless you're a corporation or a billionaire, that isn't you.

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    wbblair3 says

    BOTH parties are responsible for the mess we're in and BOTH parties had their hands in every one of the egregious and dangerous violations of our Constitution codified in the past several decades.

    Since when did the Constitution matter? The only thing that matters in this world is money and power and the will to use it.

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    For anyone that cares to look, the BIGGEST media outlets are all Right leaning. So thus its absolutely no excuse to claim that the media is liberal when in reality if you look at it via real numbers its actually more heavily right leaning. McCarthy was the first to employee that tactic- claiming that any media that didn't agree with him were surely communists. That and generally over-using the terms" Socialist" and "Communist" for much of the same reasons.

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    17   7:27am Fri 9 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Hey Abe.
    If we can't beat em, Join em. If we could somehow put your message into shows like "DANCING WITH AMERICA'S XFACTOR WANNABE'S", the message might get through. Our present leader won on his concept of "CHANGE".
    He didn't tell us that HE was going to change !
    Ron Paul is the ONLY electorate that stands on his principals.
    Bottom line, Being elected today is nothing more than winning some fantasy fashion talent show. The prime time Media wins that way and the people won't have it any other way.
    Remember Boyle ?

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    Honest Abe says

    The America we used to know is gone and getting worse fast.

    So what else is new? I stopped caring a long time ago. We have legal contraception and abortion. Use it.

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    19   8:33am Fri 9 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected  

    TPB says

    Well there you go, you don't want the BEST president for OUR country, because it wouldn't be the best choice for YOUR finances.

    Bullshit. Ron Paul would make me rich. When you suck all the paper wealth out of the system, all that's left is real wealth. Anyone holding assets be it real estate, gold, or chocolate bars will make out. Anyone living paycheck to paycheck and basically holding nothing will get screwed.

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    20   11:36am Fri 9 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected  

    TPB says

    Will they be more EFFECTIVE at passing more middle class killing agendas? Hell no, there has never been a more Middle class decimation administration hell bent on dividing the nation in to two piss pots, those that have a pot to piss in, and those they pay Rent to so they have a window in which to throw it out of.

    So what did Obama do exactly? Be specific.

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