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WIRED article on huge new data spy center (for spying on Americans) in Utah.

By illustrateth   Follow   Fri, 23 Mar 2012, 2:34pm   798 views   10 comments
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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

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1. Patrick Follow Befriend (54) 5,188 threads 6,157 comments 46 male Menlo Park, CA

   1   5:52pm Thu 11 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Hmmm, this quietly disappeared from public conversation.

2. curious2 Follow Befriend (5) 31 threads 2,239 comments Premium

   2   5:59pm Thu 11 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   For Romney's cult members, his nomination to be the next commander in chief and the development of this facility must seem like fulfillment of prophecy. The rest of us will need to rephrase what we say online, even behind supposed anonymity. I for one welcome our new Moron overlords. They seem so cheerful!

3. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,702 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   3   9:11pm Thu 11 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   There is still one technology preventing untrammeled government access to private digital data: strong encryption. Anyone—from terrorists and weapons dealers to corporations, financial institutions, and ordinary email senders—can use it to seal their messages, plans, photos, and documents in hardened data shells. For years, one of the hardest shells has been the Advanced Encryption Standard, one of several algorithms used by much of the world to encrypt data. Available in three different strengths—128 bits, 192 bits, and 256 bits—it’s incorporated in most commercial email programs and web browsers and is considered so strong that the NSA has even approved its use for top-secret US government communications. Most experts say that a so-called brute-force computer attack on the algorithm—trying one combination after another to unlock the encryption—would likely take longer than the age of the universe. For a 128-bit cipher, the number of trial-and-error attempts would be 340 undecillion (1036). Don't consider web browser encryption to be any kind of safeguard. The NSA has half of the key used by all browsers. So they only have to break a 64-bit cipher instead of a 128-bit one. That's exponentially easier. If you want privacy, generate your own keys and encrypt with real encryption products like True Crypt. It's free. It's easy. It works.

4. curious2 Follow Befriend (5) 31 threads 2,239 comments Premium

   4   10:00pm Thu 11 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Dan8267 says If you want privacy, generate your own keys and encrypt with real encryption products like True Crypt. What do you think of Tor?

5. snyderkv Follow Befriend 4 threads 66 comments

   5   10:39pm Thu 11 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Three reasons wrong with this thread 1) You think you're so important that the government wants to spy on you 2) You have something to hide, fraud, child porn exc. 3) You're ok with letting criminals and pedephiles get away with whatever they can under the guise of "privacy" just so you have the piece of mind knowing that nobody searched the files on your computer (as if you were important enough for them to care)

6. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 413 threads 6,980 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

   6   9:34am Fri 12 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   snyderkv says You think you're so important that the government wants to spy on you Well, since the world revolves around me, of course they'd want in on such scintilatting conversations as the facebook convos between me and my niece, who is 9. We talk about her little brother's poopy diapers. (diaper bombs) snyderkv says You have something to hide, fraud, child porn exc. I stole a road sign when I was 17, with a bunch of drunk friends. My guilt is overwhelming, if only because people won't know that they're entering the town of Virgin without that sign... snyderkv says You're ok with letting criminals and pedephiles get away with whatever they can under the guise of "privacy" Without a court order, the gub'mint shouldn't be allowed to access anything. No gps on cars, no access to my personal communications, no taking of my guns (9mm), no entering my home or videotaping me or planting evidence or coercing me into making a statement about things I've done, such as stealing a road sign 30 years ago... OMG!!! You're from the gub'mint! Caught ya!!!

7. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,702 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   7   7:56pm Fri 12 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   curious2 says What do you think of Tor? Good idea. Not fast enough for everyday use and I wouldn't want to mooch off Tor because there are people in other countries that need it to get access to information. For example, China.

8. curious2 Follow Befriend (5) 31 threads 2,239 comments Premium

   8   8:08pm Fri 12 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   elliemae says people won't know that they're entering the town of Virgin without that sign... I want to go to a protest march carrying a sign saying "END CONSTRUCTION"

9. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 247 threads 4,704 comments

   9   5:58am Sat 13 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   SO this is an article on Big Brother, but the first 5 paragraphs are more partisan bullshit. Those Religious Conservative polygamists are baaaaad! Never mind it was a Liberal majority and a Liberal President that passed the legislation that makes this building and what they do inside possible.

10. thunderlips11 Follow Befriend (13) 51 threads 2,632 comments Premium

    10   9:38am Mon 15 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Capt, good point. BOTH parties love the spying. BOTH.