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White murder of blacks vs vice versa

By Patrick   Follow   Fri, 30 Mar 2012, 9:43am   16,575 views   210 comments
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It is very politically incorrect but nonethess a fact that white people are much more likely to be murdered by black people in the US than vice versa.

Most murders are within the same race, but even then blacks have a much higher rate of murdering each other than whites do.

From http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl06.xls we see that in 2010, 447 whites were murdered by blacks, while 218 blacks were mudered by whites, for a total of 665 inter-racial murders.

Given that blacks are 12.6% of US population, and whites are 72.4% of US population, the population ratio is .174 to 1 black to white.

If the interracial murder rates were the same for both, we would expect 115 out of the 665 murders to be murders of whites by blacks. But the number was 447, which is 388% of the expected rate by populations.

OTOH, the total number was only 447 murders of whites by blacks, which is a small number relative to the total population of the US. There were over 40,000 deaths because of car accidents in the same year.

So a rational white person should be about 100 times more afraid of being killed by a car than being killed by a black person.

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1. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,702 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   1   12:32pm Mon 18 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (7)   Dislike   Protected   HEY YOU says Paul Mooney said something like: If you want to stop Racism, kill all the white people. Paul Mooney was wrong. There is plenty of hatred between African Americans, Hispanic Americans and Asian Americans. The idea that racism is only a problem that white people have is empirically false.

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   2   10:58am Thu 21 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike   In south Florida there would be no problem for an elderly Jewish person to say that they don't want a shikse or a schwartza working on them. NONE it would be a non issue, and if you dared make it one, then you're antisemitic.

3. John Bailo Follow Befriend 94 threads 438 comments Kent, WA John Bailo's website

   3   1:14pm Thu 21 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says I drove past 5 guys standing on the street in front of their house the other day. They were openly passing around a huge blunt, with a big billowing puff of smoke coming from the passer as he handed it off the passer. Only ridiculously stupid White people that fancy them selves as urban hip, does that. Obviously you've never been to the Hemp Festival in Seattle...a 3 day open air celebration of pot smoking (and hemp use). They take over a city park in the heart of downtown and at the last one the Mayor and City Attorney gave speeches! Ok, Washington State recently legalized it, but this has been going on for 20 years. Now imagine if 10,000 black people stood in their street and smoked pot...how long with that last? Often a joint is an excuse to bust. Also during this same time (while pot was illegal and yet not a single person at Hempfest was arrested) a young black girl here was captured on video being punched by an officer...for jaywalking! (I'm pro police and think they should protect themselves as the girl was being belligerent. But I'm just saying...about the differences in treatment.)

4. Clarence 13X Follow Befriend 23 threads 456 comments

   4   12:12am Tue 24 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says There's no question blacks were the most oppressed in America, historically. Are they still actively oppressed? Or is a lot of the poverty just "inertia"? I really don't know, I'm just an average "white guy." The minds of the people have not caught up with the times. Many still believe in the methods of the 60s revolution, when in fact, all they need to do is seek opportunities. During the 60s the people turned their backs on white America as had been done to them for 400 years. what you describe is a defensive mechanism....unfortunately, all youth are now following this same approach. IE Hip Hop Thug Nation Being white or black has nothing to do with it...its all about the impoverished thoughts that come with being poor and not knowing opportunity is right around the corner.

5. Patrick Follow Befriend (54) 5,188 threads 6,157 comments 46 male Menlo Park, CA

   5   7:07pm Wed 25 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   Someone objected that of course blacks murder whites at twice the rate than whites murder blacks, simply because there are many more whites around to get murdered. Now it occurs to me that if that were valid, it would also be true that most murders of blacks would be by whites, again because again there are so many more whites around to be murderers. But most murders of blacks are by other blacks. So it seems that blacks are statistically much more violent than whites, and it is in fact rational to be much more afraid of blacks. On average.

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   6   5:17pm Sun 23 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   Protected   Patrick, Don't you understand? Most of these traffic deaths are caused by black people driving their cars into crowds of white people, all of whom have been programmed by Obama to kill non-Islamics in the name of Allah.

7. zeigs23 Follow Befriend 2 comments

   7   1:04am Fri 21 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   It's all about culture. Race is correlated with culture, but it is not causally related. Because race is correlated with culture, and more so in times past with greater geographic isolation, racial appearance was once a reasonably good predictor of cultural affiliation. This is no longer true, clothing is better. Being wary of another's culture is justified and reasonable. Culture is a form of man-made and self-induced reality programing that can and does directly influence our behavior. Hence, we all are, and should be, concerned about the relative health of our various cultural ideologies. Race has simply gotten erroneously thrown into the middle of this challenge due to the age old common sense error of inferring causation from correlational evidence.

8. curious2 Follow Befriend (5) 31 threads 2,239 comments Premium

   8   12:36pm Mon 18 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   Protected   The issue with these statistics is they show correlation but the question remains causation. The #1 driver of gun violence is the drug war. ATF gunwalking into Mexico resulted in a huge increase in gun violence there, part of a drug war that has killed more than 50,000 people, mostly Latino. They did not change color, they merely changed behavior: they had a drug war with a huge arsenal over smuggling profits. The median likelihood of one person shooting another is near zero regardless of color. If you put the median likelihood black person in a room with the median likelihood white person, even if the room was chock full of guns and ammunition, neither would shoot the other. If they had to stay for a whole day, they might share a pizza. That's why politicians claiming to care about reducing gun violence, by imposing gun control while continuing the drug war, is so obviously a farce. The gun violence occurs largely among illegal drug gangs, who are by definition breaking the law already. In the US, illegal drug gangs are disproportionately black, so gun violence is also. It would be very interesting to compare gun violence statistics by race today with statistics from the prohibition era - I suspect they would look quite different.

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   9   6:03pm Mon 18 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike (2)   CL says How many millionaire African-Americans have murdered a poor white person

10. CL Follow Befriend (12) 140 threads 1,355 comments Emeryville, CA

    10   11:44am Tue 19 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   FortWayne says MLK was a victim, you are not a victim get over yourself. You missed the point. You're acting like the last crime of murder or oppression based on ethnicity happened during the civil war. That's patently false. Society is unjust. It is moreso unjust if you're black and in America. Why is black infant mortality higher in America than in Cuba? Why is black literacy higher in Cuba than America? Why is the rate of incarceration so high here for the black population? Clearly, there is something in our system that makes it so. Denial of that fact, I'd say, typically means that the denier simply wants to ignore it, perhaps to make themselves feel better. Are employers color-blind? Or are there preferences in hiring whites over blacks? Why were Asians, Irish and Italians tasked with manual labor, if they were hired at all? Does your ethnicity affect the jobs you are allowed to take? And do the jobs you take affect your health, wealth and class? C'mon guys. This isn't anything shocking...These are things to fix, not "get over".

11. John Bailo Follow Befriend 94 threads 438 comments Kent, WA John Bailo's website

    11   11:09am Thu 21 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   Do blacks commit more crimes per capita than whites...or are they just arrested more often (and hence end up on the stat sheets). African American Youth Are Treated Differently By the Juvenile Justice System Drugs. According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, among youths aged 12 to 17, the rate of current illicit drug use was 11.1 % among whites, and 9.3% among African Americans. [5] In a previous year, the same survey found that white youth aged 12 to17 are more than a third more likely to have sold drugs than African American youth. [6] The Monitoring the Future Survey of high school seniors shows that white students annually use cocaine at 4.6 times the rate of African Americans students, use crack cocaine at 1.5 times the rate of African Americans students, and use heroin at the same rate of African Americans students, and that white youth report annual use of marijuana at a rate 46% higher than African American youth. [7] However African American youth are arrested for drug offenses at about twice the rate (African American 314 per 100,000, white 175 per 100,000) times that of whites, [8] and African American youth represent nearly half (48%) of all the youth incarcerated for a drug offense in the juvenile justice system. [9] Weapons. According to the Center on Disease Control's annual Youth Risk Behavior Survey, in 2001 whites and African Americans reported similar rates of carrying a weapon (whites 17.9%, African Americans 15.2%), and similar rates of carrying a gun (whites 5.5%, and African Americans, 6.5%). [10] African American youth represent 32% of all weapons arrests, and were arrested for weapons offenses at a rate twice that of whites (69 per 100,000, versus 30 per 100,000). [11] Assault. According to the Center on Disease Control's annual Youth Risk Behavior Survey, African Americans report being in a physical fight at a similar rate (36.5%, versus 32.5% for whites), but were arrested for aggravated assault at a rate nearly three times that of whites (137 per 100,000, versus 48 per 100,000). http://www.huffingtonpost.com/van-jones/are-blacks-a-criminal-rac_b_8398.html What is really political incorrect is having a dialog on white lawbreakers who go free or let off much easier at time of arrest than African-Americans. Or else, in situations like drugs, where people are not arrested at all...college parties?

12. Rew Follow Befriend 8 threads 143 comments San Jose, CA

    12   12:16pm Thu 21 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   FortWayne says You just sound like a person who blames others for personal failures. Our government for a while made it easy to just claim to be a victim of society and you got paid, got tangible benefits, and quickly many folks jumped onto the train. I guess seeing folks with a mindset like yours, victim mentality, I don't see that changing any time soon. What? I see nothing in the above that is laying blame for a personal failing. A disadvantaged child, growing up in a drug addicted home, and in poverty has the same chance in america as a child growing up in a wealthy household in Cupertino? Is this your claim? Affirmative Action works by you claiming you are a victim? Is that how it goes? I challenge you to walk up to 100 people of your choice and ask them if they see themselves as a victim. If the answer yes, ask them what of? Ridiculous. Very few people label themselves as victims. Affirmative action is a very imperfect way of trying to correct damage done to minorities and women in America's history. There is lots not to like about it, and there are some things which ARE actually needed/good. The manner in which this can be done without detracting from someone's rightful achievement, or taking away from someone who has earned something, is troubling ... but I don't see a better solution. What's your solution? Sounds to me like you think we have enough equality now in America to just let things sort themselves out. Demographics would show you are wrong. Question: Do you think women in the muslim world would benefit from something like Affirmative Action? (and I am using muslim women here to represent a clearly discriminated against social group ... could as easily just be a minority, but this is a great example. Your answer to this question would tell you/me whether it is just Affirmative Action you have a problem with, or its use in America today.) There will always be some who mooch off of social programs. Does that mean we should have nothing because a few will cheat? I don't like it any more than you do, I really don't, but the slight cost at those who will milk it is far less than the benefit social programs/"entitlements" have. Again, your argument seems to go straight to : "dog eat dog world, no government needed, load 'em up and keep one in the chamber." That's in no way shape or form the vision of America, or an America I want to live in. There is a balance here between personal responsibility and us helping those in society who need it.

13. CL Follow Befriend (12) 140 threads 1,355 comments Emeryville, CA

    13   11:09am Tue 17 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   housingcasino4865 says And the liberal politicians encourage dependency and are more genocidal than the KKK ever was: look up "family planning." Look up, "How unwanted pregnancies hold you down and ruin your dreams". Also, look up how the biggest proponents of family planning were once Republicans, including the Bush family's support of Planned Parenthood.

14. Clarence 13X Follow Befriend 23 threads 456 comments

    14   12:14am Tue 24 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says housingcasino4865 says Blacks aren't into science or engineering because they're too busy being gangsta's thanks to social programming (aka, the media). Why be an engineer? That's not "coo," be a gang banger instead. It's happening to white kids too. Example: Eminem and Insane Clown Posse. You are both right, color is not a factor here though. Social and economic status are the culprit....along with piss poor parenting. I wouldnt want my daughter associating with EMINEM, KID ROCK, WILLIE NELSON, TED NUGENT or SNOOP DOGG. They are all miscrients, unfit for a society based on decency.

15. Clarence 13X Follow Befriend 23 threads 456 comments

    15   10:46am Tue 24 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   leoj707 says That is a pretty wide net you are throwing. It is starting make you sound like the movie bad guy who bans dancing in the town. Would you prefer a gentleman or a miscrient to be your husband? I am anti-lowlife regardless of the color of the persons skin. My kids and family are good, fun loving people....just like the GAP commercials. We aspire to live a righteous life...not as bandits and unkept low lifes. People should aspire to do better in life not espouse stupidity simply because they love tattoos, long hair and freedom of personal choice. There comes a responsibility with all those freedoms...especially if you choose to follow the wrong cultures.

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    16   10:21am Fri 21 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   While I think statistics are mostly lies, political correctness is a lie laced with poison. People should not be forced to look tolerant. People should not even try to be tolerant. They should know that differences drive real progress and differences make life interesting. They should embrace differences. Then we can be true to ourselves and accept consequences of such differences. We must not reject data or reason simply because they are politically incorrect.

17. Patrick Follow Befriend (54) 5,188 threads 6,157 comments 46 male Menlo Park, CA

    17   2:08pm Mon 18 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   I prefer to stick to mathematical facts.

18. The Professor Follow Befriend (5) 24 threads 1,303 comments Premium

    18   4:38pm Tue 19 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   CL says Or when there are a thousand more black CEOs. Would you settle for 900? In my opinion the oligarchy wants to perpetuate war. Race war, class war, Vietnam, the war on poverty, Afghanistan, The war on drugs, TERRORISM, all of the wars are just an effort to keep us down, keep us fighting, and to profit off the chaos.

19. The Professor Follow Befriend (5) 24 threads 1,303 comments Premium

    19   4:49pm Tue 19 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   CL says Why is black infant mortality higher in America than in Cuba? Why is black literacy higher in Cuba than America? Why is the rate of incarceration so high here for the black population? I did some quick Googling and was shocked about the statistics on black infant mortality: " o Nationwide, infant death rates are 2.5 times as high for African American babies than for white babies o This black/white disparity in infant death rates has either held steady or widened since 1980 o In a number of states, especially those in the Southeast, the gap between black and white infant death rates continues to widen o Moreover, in states like Mississippi the disparity between black and white infant mortality rates has recently skyrocketed" http://www.cfgnh.org/Portals/0/Uploads/Documents/Public/giveANDlearn-reports/AAInfantMortality_Joint%20Center.pdf I attribute the high illiteracy and incarceration rates among blacks as casualties of the war on poverty, the war on drugs, and an emphasis on incarceration instead of education.

20. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,702 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    20   4:54pm Tue 19 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   zzyzzx says America has plenty of racists, they are liberals who support affirmative action laws. Liberals don't support Affirmative Action as it violates the 14th Amendment just like the ban on gay marriage. Liberals, by definition, believe in equality under law for all citizens. Liberty for all. Once again, the right fails to realize that American "left" is just an arbitrary set of political beliefs just like the American "right" and neither has anything to do with the philosophy of liberalism, which means the same thing everywhere in the world.