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Republicans are refusing to pass most legislation in the House

By iwog   Follow   Mon, 2 Apr 2012, 8:12am   8,507 views   98 comments
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Even bipartisan legislation. Even the necessary federal highway bill that passed in the Senate by 74 votes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/wonkbook-congress-fails-on-infrastructure-again/2012/04/02/gIQARwrcqS_blog.html

Republicans are total failures at running government. How long until the approximately 50% of American voters who are holding this country hostage realize this?

Actually Republicans do have a plan to move the bill forward: Speaker John Boehner wants to start allowing earmarks again. Sometimes you just gotta laugh.

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1. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

   1   8:53am Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   God Bless America.

2. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   2   11:09am Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   The real tragedy, and this is indefensible by the right, is that the Democrats attempted to pass all kinds of neglected legislation (the transportation bill is left over from 2005) however Republicans have effectively shut down ALL legislation in the Senate since Democrats took over in 2007. Those of you who still cling to the desperate hope that both parties are exactly the same need to look at the facts and stop with the cliches.

3. socal2 Follow Befriend 233 comments

   3   12:12pm Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Kind of a dumb argument dude. How many bills have the Democrat controlled Senate refused to pass that made it through the Republican controlled House? Ryan plan anyone? Worse, the Democrat controlled Senate hasn't passed a single budget in 3 years! And you want to blame this all on Republicans? Up is down. Black is white..... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/02/14/the_senate_hasn039t_passed_a_budget_in_three_years_273516.html

4. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   4   1:41pm Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   socal2 says How many bills have the Democrat controlled Senate refused to pass that made it through the Republican controlled House? Ryan plan anyone? The Ryan plan is the stupidest most vile piece of sewage every proposed by any party in any era. The ONLY people who support the Ryan plan are those who are bloody ignorant about what it says. Cap my taxes at 25%? Cut capital gains again? Works for me........I'll suck up the last few crumbs and move to South America before the entire country descends into a 50-year depression. Furthermore the Republicans do not get dictatorial powers because they have the House majority. For 200 years legislation passed both houses because of compromise. Now we have a Republican party that refuses to compromise. Result? Republicans can't even pass Republican bills. What's so amazing about the transportation bill...........the transportation bill of 2005, is that it's a fucking Republican bill. Your idiotic party can't even pass its own legislation let alone work with Democrats on compromise. socal2 says Worse, the Democrat controlled Senate hasn't passed a single budget in 3 years! And you want to blame this all on Republicans? Up is down. Black is white..... Anyone who utters the phrase "Democrat controlled Senate" without any mention of the filibuster rule is spewing right-wing propaganda and should be ignored. The reason you don't mention it is because it doesn't exist in your sphere of reality. There's no ideological debate in America anymore. Most public discourse is the left trying to convince the right what reality is.

5. socal2 Follow Befriend 233 comments

   5   1:46pm Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   iwog says Anyone who utters the phrase "Democrat controlled Senate" without any mention of the filibuster rule is spewing right-wing propaganda and should be ignored. The reason you don't mention it is because it doesn't exist in your sphere of reality. Yes - up is down, and black is white. When Obama and the Democrats had near super MAJORITIES in all 3 branches of the Federal Government, the Senate still couldn't pass a budget. So what are we to do? Blame the Republicans!

6. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   6   2:27pm Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   socal2 says When Obama and the Democrats had near super MAJORITIES in all 3 branches of the Federal Government, the Senate still couldn't pass a budget. First let us clarify the truth as opposed to your alternate reality, which in this case is somewhat bizzare: 1. Supermajority in the House has no meaning because there is no filibuster rule in the house. That's branch one. 2. Supermajority in the Supreme Court has no meaning because it's not a fucking legislature. However there has been a Republican majority in the Supreme Court since Reagan. That's branch two. 3. The Supermajoirty in the Senate lasted from July 8, 2009 to September 25, 2009. During much of that period, the Senate was out for Summer recess. The only major piece of legislation Democrats were able to get passed was health care reform. There wasn't time for anything else. socal, you are the PERFECT representative of the Republican right. Totally ignorant of reality. Again I find myself wasting time trying to convince you of what reality is instead of discussing ideology. This is the fundamental problem with America today. You simply do not exist in the real world and you just proved it. (again)

7. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

   7   2:37pm Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Iwog just blame me, it's my fault. If I'm elected president again, I can promise you 4 more years of Ball kicking madness. And you can blame for those failures as well.

8. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   8   2:45pm Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says Iwog just blame me, it's my fault. If I'm elected president again, I can promise you 4 more years of Ball kicking madness. And you can blame for those failures as well. I would ask you to list the last 4 years of ball kicking madness, I mean the SPECIFIC actions that you hate so much, but we both know you couldn't list them. Oh yeah you might manage "OBAMACARE!" and "BAILOUTS!" but that's about it. You actually don't give a shit that Obamacare is mostly Newt Gingrich's old health care plan, or that Bush was the signer on far more bailouts than Obama, but otherwise you'd be mute. You have nothing. You know nothing. If it's not on Hannity and Savage, you can't talk about it.

9. socal2 Follow Befriend 233 comments

   9   3:28pm Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   iwog says socal, you are the PERFECT representative of the Republican right. Totally ignorant of reality. Iwog - you are the PERFECT representative of the Liberal Left. Always got to blame the "other". It's never their fault. It was not enough to give the Democrats, the House, Senate and the Presidency in 2008. The Democrats could only get things done if they had absolute power. I don't recall Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton or Bush II having Obama type majorities in Congress. Yet they managed to compromise with the other party to get legislation passed let alone passing a budget. And don't even start with the fillibuster as it was the Democrats in the Senate that started using it on everything to block Bush's judicial nominees. Goose gander and all that. So cry me a river. Obama and the Democrats had a chance to do something great and focus on getting our economy and longterm entitlements sorted. Instead, they followed Rahm Emannuel's advice to "never let a crisis go to waste" and they wasted all of their political capital on a crappy healthcare bill that didn't even include severability and will likely be tossed out by the Supreme Court.

10. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    10   3:32pm Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   iwog says You know nothing. If it's not on Hannity and Savage, you can't talk about it. I don't watch Hanity and Combover.

11. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    11   7:10pm Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   socal2 says It was not enough to give the Democrats, the House, Senate and the Presidency in 2008. The Democrats could only get things done if they had absolute power. Funny......this is exactly like saying "You've got the house hooked up to the water main, why do we have to turn the valve too?????" You wont talk about specifics. I always talk about specifics. You're not in the real world. socal2 says I don't recall Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton or Bush II having Obama type majorities in Congress. Yet they managed to compromise with the other party to get legislation passed let alone passing a budget. None of those presidents had to fight the propaganda machine that is wrecking this nation. Repealing the fairness doctrine ensured that public opinion mirrored whoever spent the most money. The rise of suicide politics is the rise of Newscorp. In case you're going to respond with something silly like "But but you can't blame FOX!" please explain to us how Hitler came to power and was able to commit atrocities without propaganda? Propaganda is a tool of war, and in this case a tool of the right wing against America. socal2 says And don't even start with the fillibuster as it was the Democrats in the Senate that started using it on everything to block Bush's judicial nominees. Goose gander and all that. "But they did it tooooooo" isn't an argument. This thread is about Republicans blocking a Republican bill. The gross stupidity of trying to defend this action can't be exaggerated.

12. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 761 threads 7,674 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    12   8:05pm Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   The House Democrats only need to pass one piece of legislation. That bill should say that unless the health care system, etc. are reformed to the satisfaction of the House, the income tax rates return to the 1955 levels adjusted by the CPI. Then the Republicans would cave on everything else to prevent that from happening.

13. Kevin Follow Befriend 40 threads 2,652 comments

    13   11:47pm Mon 2 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Republicans have the single goal of making the federal government collapse. They want a return of the gilded age and they don't even make a secret out of it. They're winning.

14. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    14   1:07am Tue 3 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Kevin says They want a return of the gilded age and they don't even make a secret out of it. They're winning. Scary isn't it?

15. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    15   10:31am Tue 3 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says Scary isn't it? Definitely, and the foot soldiers of the new aristocrat movement have the audacity to name themselves after the Tea Party. Pure Orwellian.

16. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    16   11:16am Tue 3 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   iwog says wthrfrk80 says Scary isn't it? Definitely, and the foot soldiers of the new aristocrat movement have the audacity to name themselves after the Tea Party. Pure Orwellian. I don't think that it is so much audacity is that it is naivete about who they are really working for.

17. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 411 threads 4,109 comments Baltimore, MD

    17   11:22am Tue 3 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   I think were most likely much better off if they stopped passing laws for a while I'd like to see an entire legislative session devoted to repealing laws.

18. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 761 threads 7,674 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    18   11:52am Tue 3 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Kevin says Republicans have the single goal of making the federal government collapse. Only when a Democrat is in charge. When they are in charge, they want an all-powerful federal government to do their bidding.

19. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    19   12:06pm Tue 3 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   leoj707 says I don't think that it is so much audacity is that it is naivete about who they are really working for. I tend to agree. I think the term "audacity" gives the Teabaggers too much credit. They're really just useful idiots.

20. Vicente Follow Befriend (8) 203 threads 4,403 comments Davis, CA

    20   12:49pm Tue 3 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Dan8267 says Only when a Democrat is in charge. When they are in charge, they want an all-powerful federal government to do their bidding. Their bidding is using a powerful arm to BEAT OFF the gay Muslim immigrants.

21. socal2 Follow Befriend 233 comments

    21   1:22pm Tue 3 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   iwog says Repealing the fairness doctrine ensured that public opinion mirrored whoever spent the most money. Then you should be happy since Democrats have recieved the vast majority of outside special interest money the last 2 decades. Primarily from unions. It's not even close. http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2011/08/top-20-heavy-hitters-lean-democrat.html Do we really need to compare the money Obama raked in from outside sources in the 2008 election? FFS - you are even reaching for the Hitler card? Are you really this delusional that you believe the majority of the US and international media are not in the tank for Obama and the Democrats? Here's a deal, the Democrats can have Fox News and Talk Radio if Republicans get editorial control over NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, Washington Post, LATimes, NPR, and PBS. Want that deal?

22. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    22   1:30pm Tue 3 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   And don't forget the HufPo. Talk about dog wagging, look in any community on Craigslist, and you'll find no less than about 4 grassroots(?) organizations, hiring people for 24K a year to spread Liberal lies and half truths, just like the Patneters are doing for free. But for the life of me, I can't find a single conservative operation. Just how are the GOP gaining all of power and control over people if they don't have and army of misinformation minions? I'm going to apply to as many as I can simultaneously, and try to work for about 4 or 5 at one time, then use my time to do Conservative bidding. I implore all of the GOP patneters to do the same. We must infiltrate, and destroy this evil movement, it is a cancer on the fabric of our society. The Muslim brotherhood is coming to America, we can't afford 4 more years with a Muslim President. http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/world/analysis-muslim-brotherhood/index.html

23. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    23   5:29pm Tue 3 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   socal2 says Then you should be happy since Democrats have recieved the vast majority of outside special interest money the last 2 decades. Primarily from unions. It's not even close. You're the guy who said Democrats had a near super-majority in the Supreme Court. I think discussing anything with you at this point is a waste of time. You're far too delusional and that one simple assertion from you proves it. CaptainShuddup says I implore all of the GOP patneters to do the same. We must infiltrate, and destroy this evil movement, it is a cancer on the fabric of our society. Right wing Republicans must be sick and tired of winning all the time. Republican taxes, Republican trade policy, Republican deregulation, Republican judges, and Republican wars aren't enough for you? What do you want? 30 more years of more of the same?

24. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    24   5:39am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says The Muslim brotherhood is coming to America, we can't afford 4 more years with a Muslim President. Obama isn't a Muslim. If he is, he's not a very devout one. Obama is a liberal protestant. He went to a UCC church with a nutjob pastor. But that's nothing like Islam.

25. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    25   6:54am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Cloud says No, Obama is saving those dictatorial powers for himself when he passed NDAA. You mean when he signed the NDAA? That law was passed overwhelmingly in both the House and Senate. So this is like a democratic dictatorship?

26. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    26   7:38am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Cloud says Ok. Republicans baaaaaaddd. Democrats gooooood. The bill still provides dictatorial powers to Obama, a bill your supreme leader signed. What is there to understand here? I really don't care. This country is destined for dictatorship as every world superpower democracy eventually succumbs to dictatorship. It's inevitable and your friends at Fox are helping to accomplish this far ahead of schedule. Greece, Rome, France, England, and many others have done exactly that. Should Obama have vetoed the NDAA? Yes. Is the passage of the NDAA more important than the economic issues that will destroy our economy? Absolutely not. Dictatorships and revolutions arise out of economic chaos, not obscure provisions buried in defense authorizations. So basically Obama is playing with matches while you and your psychopath friends are using a flamethrower on an oil refinery. You're so manipulated and brainwashed that all Fox has to do is use the word "Muppet" in a single broadcast and they've got you parroting it a hundred times on a message board. Do you have any idea how pathetic this makes you look?

27. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    27   7:40am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   iwog says What do you want? 30 more years of more of the same? I'll take it over 4 more years of Obama.

28. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    28   7:41am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   CaptainShuddup says I'll take it over 4 more years of Obama. But you have no fucking clue why. That's just what you've been told to want.

29. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    29   7:43am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   wthrfrk80 says CaptainShuddup says The Muslim brotherhood is coming to America, we can't afford 4 more years with a Muslim President. Obama isn't a Muslim. If he is, he's not a very devout one. Obama is a liberal protestant. He went to a UCC church with a nutjob pastor. But that's nothing like Islam. Devout my ASS, he just went there as a front so the American public would think he was a good Christian. He didn't even vet Jeramiah Nutjob very well. The guy pulled his Taboo schmeckle out and showed the world what am insane kill whitie Zealot he was. Obama was SO devout, he hasn't been back to any Church since then. Quite the spirtual sage that one is.

30. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    30   7:47am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says Devout my ASS, he just went there as a front so the American public would think he was a good Christian. That's right!!! Obama attended a Christian church for 20 years as a secret plot to deceive Americans into making him president!!! That's MUCH more reasonable than the other story.

31. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    31   7:49am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   iwog says CaptainShuddup says I'll take it over 4 more years of Obama. But you have no fucking clue why. That's just what you've been told to want. Yes I'm a FOX bot, I spent the whole day over at FOX perusing the news, and it was refreshing to read news, that didn't have mean spirited hateful comments, or race baiting news articles, or news stories telling us how bad Christians are and what great people the Muslim brotherhood are. I've been told by CNN's reporting, their commenters that are allowed to post what every they want at will that supports CNN"s agenda, while suppressing counter arguments, I've been told by you and many petty Patnet posters that have no respect for other people with counter ideas, that I most definately do not want anther 4 year Democrat administration. Maybe oneday you guys will grow up, and a pair, and become your free thinkers, and vote Independent, instead of towing the party line. But until then I'm getting my news from FOX. I'm done with the vile disgusting hate that the Liberal media spreads, while accusing republicans for their sins. What's that sanctimonious song? "Before you accuse me, take a look at your self..."

32. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    32   7:50am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   iwog says Obama attended a Christian church for 20 years as a secret plot to deceive Americans into making him president!!! How do you know how many years he attended church? What did you ride up his ass for 20 years. You just know what his creators told you.

33. tatupu70 Follow Befriend (3) 15 threads 5,608 comments

    33   8:00am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Cloud- Are you under the impression that Wall St. bankers vote Democrat?

34. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    34   8:02am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   iwog says How long until the approximately 50% of American voters who are holding this country hostage realize this? Liberals have no respect for people that don't tow their agenda, thanks for admitting that. Now the healing can begin. Stop hating Iwog, stop blaming the GOP for all of your hatred. You can love it's in their somewhere just let it out. It's O.K.... Iwog, look at me, it's OK, it's OK look at me Iwog, it's OK... there there let it all out...

35. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    35   8:05am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says How do you know how many years he attended church? What did you ride up his ass for 20 years. You just know what his creators told you. OMG you're right!!!!!! That must have been fake too! All those fake friends and fake church leaders giving fake interviews about fake sermons and fake bake sales. Obama's daughters received fake Baptisms (those records must have been faked too) by Reverend Wright, which we all know is a fake pastor talking about his fake memories. This REALLY makes me want to be a Republican...........

36. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    36   8:07am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says Liberals have no respect for people that don't tow their agenda, thanks for admitting that. I'm not really a liberal and much of my "agenda" is very conservative.

37. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    37   8:07am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Cloud says I don't even watch Fox. And could care less. You should Cloud, the Liberal media works over time to brainwash how bad Fox news while the Liberal news spreads lies and hate. It's a real double standard. Go read news articles at Foxnews then read articles at CNN, notice the news content, and the theme, they hate America they really do. Also read and compare the comments that are allowed on the sites. The Picture of CNN is a vile and disgusting hateful spin propaganda machine that the Left accuses Foxnews of.

38. tatupu70 Follow Befriend (3) 15 threads 5,608 comments

    38   8:14am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Cloud-- So, do you believe that Wall St. bankers vote Democratic? Just a yes or no will suffice.

39. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    39   8:18am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   At least Iwog is making reasonable arguments based on facts, and not just spewing emotional reasoning. There are some respectable conservative types on Patnet, I think. Rootvg and FortWayne come to mind. But it seems like there are quite a few "unhinged" far-right types on here spewing the same talking points I can get from AM radio. Cloud, TPB/CaptainShuddup, and HonestAbe come to mind.

40. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,464 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    40   8:18am Wed 4 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike

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