http://economy.money.cnn.com/2012/04/19/living-near-good-schools-will-cost-an-extra-200k/?iid=HP_LN
Good argument to not have kids. Are they worth 200K?
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Nope. They're worth way more.
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When you're on your deathbed I'm sure piles of money will be very heartwarming and eager to hold your hand.
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rowemoore says
Um, maybe it's because we have been screwed over before and we wish to consciously avoid such behavior and wrong choices.
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ummmm we all know what this means the 'good schools' is a euphemism/PC correct way to state 'live away from wrong kind of minorities'.
If the title said 'it cost 200k to live away from this race and this other race because they commit 90% of all crime' it would be racist.
I really want to live in an area with BAD SCHOOL tests but low crime (to get low house price, im not having kids ever) I dont think this situ can exist!!!! can it?
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Even going to a school in a shitty area is no guarantee of failure. It is MORE up to the parents than the school, and even the environment. One of my closest friends went through the public schooling system in EPA (she's white). She saw kids get stabbed, doing hard drugs, all sorts of bad shit. Well, she attended the same private college that I did (and I went to Bellarmine...cue the gay jokes) and is now happily employed as an athletic trainer, married to a good guy and is all-around happy. She graduated HS and college with a near-poerfect GPA. Why? Her parents rode her ass and MADE her inform them of where she was and when at all times.
I realize that this is not the norm for the EPA school district, but I guess being white and having parents that do their job is also abnormal there. She would have been successful no matter where she lived & went to school. That's the hard reality that many parents don't want to accept: their special little flower has no guarantee of success in life. Making more educational resources available to your kid CAN help their chances, but in the end, it is 100% on you as a parent. Period. No amount of money can replace proper parenting. Lots of kids at my college were from wealthy families that lived in top school districts...and the only test they could have passed was the final in "Joint Rolling 101." So again, money and success don't have the correlation that so many people seem to think.
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tiny tina says
I'm sure children are price less too you.
Not everyone on the planet shares this view point.
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David9 says
Children...the 18-25 year STD!
For some reason, it is largely unsurprising that a forum inhabited mostly by housing bears also has a lot of people that don't have kids.
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bmwman91 says
LOL. I was thinking about this at lunch. I have two very tame examples:
1.) My boss and I have discussed how in the past we were chastised, probably discrimintated against, and generally looked down upon because 'no bells ever went off' and we never had children. We are for the most part happy with our lives now.
2.) A younger couple who are friends, a former boss and his wife a Jewish Princess had a baby and bought a house in 2008. The father has confided in me how trapped he is. The Jewish Princess Mother has had nervous breakdowns because 'he is so helpless' Yes, this hurts me because they are my friends.
Some of us are just not hard wired for it.
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wthrfrk80 says
I know of another couple, a man and a woman, who did live in the North East and now reside in the South who have said exactly that.
Another viewpoint of theirs is it should be mandatory, like one of their bulldogs, to go through some evaluation as to whether they are fit parents, not just 'ploop them out' and hope for the best. But they also realize this does not fit in a democracy.
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wthrfrk80 says
I sort of agree. It isn't so much that I don't think that I would derive some sort of personal enjoyment form having them, but that the world looks like it is precariously perched on the edge of a major upheaval. If we were to sink into another great depression with soup lines and no ability to provide sufficient food & shelter, it would really tear me up to have to see my kids going to bed hungry and worried.
My mom once told me that, "having kids is your personal affirmation that the world will be a good place." Well.....I try not to give-in to cynicism and negativity, but I genuinely feel that we are rapidly approaching an inflection point in our civilization where the "reset button" is about to be pressed. Unfortunately, my fiancee and I will be a wee bit too old to have kids after that. We have 3-5 years as it is before kids sort of stop becoming an option. Thankfully, we are both in agreement about the kids issue!
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David9 says
In theory, it might be a good idea. However, given our current government, I wouldn't trust them to write a manual on how to wipe your own ass...you'd have to wait 3 hours, spend $40 registering, and in the end, you would wind up with poop in your left nostril.
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IMO, marriage and kids are high-risk, low-yield investments. a stock that has 50% chance of going down is a stock not worth owning.
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Mark D says
Well put! Especially if you're a guy and she can take 50% of the stuff you own.
How about instead of gay-marriage we just abolish ALL marriage? That sounds like the most sensible thing to do.
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wthrfrk80 says
Woo Hoo! Glad somebody got it. (or already knew)
Sad there are so many poorly nourished under loved kids walking around.
Lately, I have seen children under 10 completely unescorted walking about, amazing to me anyway.
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I fully encourage other people not to procreate. Leaves more room for my descendants, who will be well worth it.
Is there a charity that offers sterilization with a signing bonus? I'd be happy to contribute.
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Vicente says
Dude, this is my plan to fix America when I am president. $10k, cash, for anyone on welfare that goes in for voluntary sterilization. Inmates that are serving time for non-violent crimes are also eligible. The benefits won't arrive for 12-20 years, but they surely will.
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bmwman91 says
Why be so specific? This is America, we are supposed to be egalitarian. Offer it to anyone. If you are going to discriminate IMO you'd have to include huge bonus for OctoMom or Kardashians, and particularly bigger fish like white collar criminals who cause much more damage than some pothead. But I don't see the point in that.
You are a college kid who wants to make tuition and are sure you never want children? Fine, here's your money thanks for removing your contribution to the gene pool.
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I came to the same conclusion a long time ago, w/o the financial aspect of it.
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You do get to sell the house someday, right? By that time the difference will probably be $300k.
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PockyClipsNow says
I think that's a good point. In the BA, the good school districts definitely have less crime than bad ones. So another way of asking the original question is, "is your own well-being worth $200k?"