Unemployed will vote for Obama to keep their "benefits"


By Honest Abe   Follow   Wed, 25 Apr 2012, 11:08pm   4,735 views   50 comments
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Isn't this what I've been saying for months now? These are the people who vote for a living. They are indentured voters...they HAVE TO vote for oBAma - or else the garvy train stops. This is now confirmed by a house democRAT.

Here are some of the oBaMa constitutiants:

The unemployed
Union members
Lefties
Lawyers
Communists
Everyone associated with Acorn (regardless what they now call themselves)
The New Black Panthers
Hollywood actors, directors, producers
Socialists
People with the Robinhood mentality
Freeloaders
Marxists
Tree huggers
Progressives
Busybodies
Do gooders
People who believe that a "free" lunch really exists
Takers
The envious
Liberals
Community "organizers"
Flotsam
Jetsam
Government employees
Everyone on any type of government assistance = 40% of all Americans
Most who drive a Prius, Smart car or Volt
Nanny State supporters

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  1. clambo


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    1   11:16pm Wed 25 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (5)  

    Also:
    LGBT
    Had authoritative father who was mean to him.
    On drugs. On medical marijuana.
    On permanent disability, SSI lifetime annuity for being "bipolar". Or "back pain".
    Extremely ugly=chip on shoulder, dislikes what he perceives as "normal". e.g. Bill Maher, Michael Moore. Could work in the circus if not in entertainment.
    Literary types.
    Professors.

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    2   11:33pm Wed 25 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (3)  

    Clambo, I knew I forgot some. Here's another one...anyone with a student loan. Obama, trying to be the hero, wants to saddle the taxpayer with other peoples student loan debt burden. What a wonderful, caring president.

    Everyone who's student loan gets "forgiven" will then be a guaranteed supporter of obaMA. "Can I get an A-men"?

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    I'm afraid we have been misled and lied to. I'm worse off now than I was 4 years ago. Although I'm registered as an independent, and I'm not exactly enamored of the opposition, I will vote for the most viable alternative, magic underwear or not. In fact, I would vote for Caligula himself if he were the only alternative, regardless if his syphlitic brain wanted to go to war with Neptune... No way I would ever vote for this fraud again. I've heard it said in the past that the pendulum always swings left before swinging HARD right as the failed, effeminate ideologies of the left comes crashing down on themselves. This appears to be happening right now, and will continue to gain steam as the Nov elections approach...

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    4   2:33am Thu 26 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    democrat = DEMONRAT

    republican = REPUBLITARD

    Should we elect the GIANT DOUCH or the TURD SANDWHICH? (hint: fececs are brown - dont vote for SHIT!)

    The DEVIL or the deep blue sea...

    Time to pick the lesser of two EVILS...

    Why do we always get such SHITTY choices?? Do lobbyists and our campaign finance laws have anything to do with this? How fucking sad indeed...

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    5   2:36am Thu 26 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    And Republican= Repugnicunt, if we had a party full of honest people with honest aims, the universe would implode as human nature is greed.

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    Travis Bickle says

    I'm afraid we have been misled and lied to. I'm worse off now than I was 4 years ago. Although I'm registered as an independent, and I'm not exactly enamored of the opposition, I will vote for the most viable alternative, magic underwear or not. In fact, I would vote for Caligula himself if he were the only alternative, regardless if his syphlitic brain wanted to go to war with Neptune... No way I would ever vote for this fraud again. I've heard it said in the past that the pendulum always swings left before swinging HARD right as the failed, effeminate ideologies of the left comes crashing down on themselves. This appears to be happening right now, and will continue to gain steam as the Nov elections approach...

    One of these days, i'm gonna get - organiz-ized !

    And what is your Mormon friend going to do to make things better?

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    7   7:21am Thu 26 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    iwog, he'll probably do LESS damage than your Muslim friend did.

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    8   9:07am Thu 26 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    He's gonna let us get our gas and oil for a start.

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    Honest Abe says

    iwog, he'll probably do LESS damage than your Muslim friend did.

    That's a really ignorant and childish answer. Would you like to try again?

    clambo says

    He's gonna let us get our gas and oil for a start.

    There aren't any restrictions on gas exploration or production, in fact productive wells are being shut because the price is too low. Tree huggers are pissed because hydrofracking is allowed by the EPA and unregulated. Natural gas has NEVER EVER been cheaper.

    As for oil, Obama has approved 95% of Bush's oil exploration plan and has even added territory that Bush didn't include.

    Abe,your ignorance is astounding. You're like a parrot who's cage is right next to a television with Fox Noise playing 24/7. This is a complete fail in trying to answer my very reasonable question. Anyone else want to take a shot?

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    10   9:27am Thu 26 Apr 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected  

    No matter how many times you zealots are corrected, no matter how clear the evidence against you, you'll never stop lying.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/15/rick-santorum/rick-santorum-says-barack-obama-has-raised-stop-si/

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    Romney won't surround himself with morons like Chu, Timmie Taxcut Geithner and Valerie Jarrett and won't make as many bad investments of our money in things like Solyndra. Romney won't let the Labor Dept. attack Boeing. He won't have the feds attack Gibson guitar.
    Romney won't bow and kowtow to foreign despots.
    iWog is lying because the increase of anything is generally drilling on private property. No all wells are on federal land.
    Obama illegally cancelled permits in the gulf of mexico and had an illegal moratorium on drilling, defying a judges order.
    The important question is not listing what Romney will do. The issue is how abysmal a failure and an inept executive Obama is. This would be expected since he had no executive experience having been only a community organizer.

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    clambo says

    Romney won't bow and kowtow to foreign despots.

    Well Romney listens to the word of Thomas S. Monson as if they came directly from god.

    So, he has that going for him...

    ...Hmmmm... when Thomas S. Monson can translate god's word directly into the eager and receptive ear of the US President I wonder what god will have to say?

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    Honest Abe says

    iwog, he'll probably do LESS damage than your Muslim friend did.

    Haha good comeback Abe!

    Iwog refrenced Mitts religion (which I don't give a damn about, in either direction) in a contemptous fashion, so why would Obummers perceived faith be off limits here??

    As for what will Mitt do to make things better, well there is plenty to say about that - but for starters, lets just say that I'm willing to take my chances, and I'm quite certain he would not be a race-baiting hypocrite...

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    While Obama listened to Rev. Wright for 20+ years, and named him "my father figure" etc.

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    clambo says

    While Obama listened to Rev. Wright for 20+ years, and named him "my father figure" etc.

    Get back to me when Obama views Rev. Wright as a prophet, seer, and sole arbiter of god's word to man.

    Also, speaking of father figure Romney also believes that god is our literal spiritual "father" and that someday we can all have the ability -- as long as we believe everything said by Thomas S. Monson -- to "grow up" and become gods of our own planets, just like our "Heavenly Father" as the mormons put it.

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    clambo says

    Romney won't surround himself with morons like Chu, Timmie Taxcut Geithner and Valerie Jarrett and won't make as many bad investments of our money in things like Solyndra. Romney won't let the Labor Dept. attack Boeing. He won't have the feds attack Gibson guitar.

    Very true, Romney will pick his own morons.

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    2 year paid vacation is awsome deal if you are lucky enough to get that.

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    - Obama is a Christian who was brainwashed by Rev. Wright for 20 years.
    - Obama is a lifelong Muslim who couldn't possibly have been influenced by a Christian preacher.

    I'm not sure it's possible for the right in this country to be more idiotic. Republicans as a group are simply not qualified to pick the president.

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    clambo says

    Obama illegally cancelled permits in the gulf of mexico and had an illegal moratorium on drilling, defying a judges order.

    Prove it. (like you'll actually support anything you type here)

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    bob2356 says

    Very true, Romney will pick his own morons.

    Or his own Mormons.

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    Travis Bickle says

    I will vote for the most viable alternative, magic underwear or not.

    iwog says

    And what is your Mormon friend going to do to make things better?

    Travis Bickle says

    Iwog refrenced Mitts religion (which I don't give a damn about, in either direction) in a contemptous fashion

    Are you fucking kidding me??????????????????????

    Again......Republicans are simply not qualified to pick the president. You people just don't have any tether to the real universe. Can I be any more clear?

    (pssst......are any of you Romney folk going to answer my question?)

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    IWog, oh I get it. Repub's are not qualified to pick the president, but you are?

    Most pot heads would have probably done an equally good job in screwing up the economy compared to our existing president. But then again, the pot heads would have done it by accident, our leader has done it on purpose.

    Spread the wealth, demonize the job creators, punish the successful, reward incompetence and failure, destroy the coal industry, endorse job killing legislation, support the unions, burden the taxpayers, encourage dependency and a whole lot more.

    The real question is how will Romney be able to clean up all the damage created by your messiah.

    I could go on and on - except I'm at work.

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    Honest Abe says

    The real question is how will Romney be able to clean up all the damage created by your messiah.

    That's EXACTLY the real question I asked in the thread. (This is why you're not qualified to pick the president)

    You ran away screaming and you're still running away. Answer your own fucking question. How will Romney make things better?

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    One in three view the government favorably...uh - that would be those dependent on the governmen, right? Not too hard to figure out

    .http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75666.html

    As to your question how will Romney make things better? I don't know, but I know what I'd do. I would let the people who earn the money decide how they should spend the fruits of their own labor (and yes we need a social safety net - but not a hammock). I'd stop demonizing job creators. I'd encourage more people to be successful and less dependent. I'd stop bailing out failing companies and stop lavishing tax payer dollars on Wall Street fat cats. I'd get out of the way and not work to destroy any type of industry. I'd eliminate job killing legislation (and no, I'm not in favor of poisioning the rivers). I'd let employees choose for themselves if they wanted to join a union -or not. I'd replace the rotten fiat currency with a sound currency. I'd stop shredding the constitution and begin again to respect the rule of law and the rights of individuals. I'd institute a two year term in office for any political position. I'd have a policy that no person could hold office for more than a total of 6 years, in his lifetime. No person would be eligable for any office if they had dual citizenship. Every voter would need to show photo ID in order to vote. I'd eliminate redudnant government offices and operations. I'd return power to the states, to eliminate the centralized power hungry federal government. I'd deport the clintons, nazi pelosi, dirty harry reid, barney frank, barbara boxer, jerry brown, rhom emanual, and the village idiot himself Joe Biden.

    And thats just for starters. But thats me, not Romney. I need to get back to work now.

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    Honest Abe says

    I'd stop shredding the constitution and begin again to respect the rule of law and the rights of individuals.

    Ah, hahaha, right...

    Then you would go about "deporting" individuals who are your political adversaries.

    Honest Abe says

    I'd deport the clintons, nazi pelosi, dirty harry reid, barney frank, barbara boxer, jerry brown, rhom emanual, and the village idiot himself Joe Biden.

    Nice... expelling political opposition, now where was that in the constitution...

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    Honest Abe says

    As to your question how will Romney make things better? I don't know

    That's funny because I know exactly what Romney will do. He'll sign the Ryan bill.

    Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, who earn literally billions of dollars every year, will not pay one single cent in taxes. Neither will their heirs because the Ryan bill eliminates the estate tax. Rich people who can funnel their profits through a corporation will be effectively tax exempt. Anyone who actually earns a paycheck will pay everything.

    Funny......he's your candidate yet you have no idea what he'll do if he wins. I find that pathetic.

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    Gosh Leo, the constitution has been shredded so bad I couldn't find the clause that prohibited deporting domestic enemies. Perhaps you're right, they shouldn't be deported, rather they should be imprisoned indefinitely and waterboarded multiple times every day.

    I Was Only Guessing ( IWOG ) - wrong, yet again. Who ever said Romney was MY candidate? You didn't hear that from me.

    What I find pathetic is your deranged focus on other people, and other peoples money. What other people earn is simply none of your business...UNLESS you are a money grubbing, power hungry liberal zombie who thinks you are entitled to what someone else has worked for.

    Apparently you are burdened with a 'ITS NOT FAIR" mentality. Earth to Iwog: LIFE ISN'T FAIR, now deal with it - without stealing from or manipulating others. Thats your problem, liberals have no honorable game plan other than theft and manipulation - which is obviously NOT HONORABLE.

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    Buffet does not earn billions. He has a reasonable income. His net worth may be going up but that's not earned and it's not income.
    Few people exist like Buffet and Gates. Their total net worth even if taxed at 50% would represent a drop in the bucket when compared with the recent $5 trillion of Obama debt spending over the $6 trillion or so taken in and spent also (tax receipts to the treasury)
    Rev. Wright isn't a Christian in any sense of the word although he may be calling himself that.
    Obama had a muslim father, a muslim stepfather, and grew up in a muslim country. What you would call him is a toss up. Of course, he called himself a muslim on TV with Stephanopolous a few years ago.
    Romney would do a fine job compared to Obama because he has already done it in business and in politics.
    Notice that Obama completely ignored and rejected his own Bowles/Simpson little committee.
    Notice also that Paul Volker is no longer hanging around Obama and Valerie Jarrett. He bailed out.
    Obama is a pathetic loser who is also a narcissist with severe identity issues. His issues are racial identity and national identity. He really doesn't know who the hell he is. Is he a Kenyan-American? An Indonesian-Kenyan-American? He's mentally just fucked up.
    I've seen guys like him before, they're a bit scary and weird.
    In college I also can't remember the guy who said "Hey, it's spring break. I'm going to Pakistan!"

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    iwog says

    Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, who earn literally billions of dollars every year, will not pay one single cent in taxes

    They have for a long time been paying taxes. Literally! in the same manor everyone else does. You do understand what ordinary income and capital gains/losses are all about. All of the sudden in 2012, the Dems dont even talk of "Capital Gains and Losses".. not in their vocabulary.

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    iwog says

    How will Romney make things better?

    Romney does understand Business and Economics far more than Obama.

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    I can't decide who the biggest idiots are on this thread:

    - Abe and his ilk, who we all know to be about as well informed about reality as a rock

    - The people arguing with him.

    What's the point, really? Obama could have personally cured cancer while bringing unemployment to zero and giving everyone free beer and perfect teeth, and Abe would still oppose him and pretend that he's a muslim. Whoever is opposing him could be a baby raping demon who's campaign promises include selling your children into slavery, murdering your wife, and wiping his ass with the constitution, and he'd still support him.

    He's a member of that 20% of the population that believes insane, idiotic things. There's no point talking to him at all.

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    thomas.wong1986 says

    iwog says



    How will Romney make things better?


    Romney does understand Business and Economics far more than Obama.

    That's not an answer. I'm looking for specifics, in fact several people on the board have been asking for specifics for months now.

    Republicans are totally incapable of answering I guess.

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    Iran is one of the most seismically active countries in the world, being crossed by several major fault lines that cover at least 90% of the country. As a result ...

    Look. Buff it, Rockefeller the rest of the "Hole in the wall" gang. No one ever stops to figure out how ole Rocky got financed. I saw a documentry on oil the other night. Not one word about that. Now he's a paper swindler. Of course its not a far cry for Buff it who's from Oklahoma of course. On his way to becoming a major force in paper hanging. These guys have a "hide out" somewhere of course. Maybe in a church somewhere or some massive corporate "hideout". I could sit here and pretend Buff it and Rockefeller and the like are really rich guys. The best businessmen around. To me they are nothing more than thieves and criminals. See. Whats your prespective? A crook says I don't care. He's going to help himself to whatever he wants. It's psychopathic criminal behavior. So much so that the criminal will ignore any disdain or warning and continue on because they are sick people. I have no sympathy. It's animal behavior as far as I am concerned.

    I could sit here and pretend Democracy works and tip the bucket is the most wonderful form of government ever to exsist. I'm just not gonna do it. It keeps the peasants happy however. Makes them feel empowered. Stops the let them eat cake crowd from showing the crooks to the guillotine. Now you might not think that works. However, Democracy is a proven formula for stopping upheavel. Like anyone thats been hired. The people that participate. The ones hired to sell you on Democracy will lie right in your face. Your failing is your incredulousness. On how it could get this far. How so many people could fall for it. Then again it didn't all take place in the course of your life. You were born into it. Just maybe its your desire to have your subconcious entertained, your means of escape. That makes you gasp when you get at reality and you descend happily back into your dream world. After all they are exciting and very entertaining. Maybe thats the purpose and the point.

    You might be suprised at the "types" that read my kind of writtings, Patrick.net had 20,000 readers yesterday. That figure they can make a dollar and a cent. Ratting. If detected the people that "reconfigure" things for the swindlers go to work using tried and true methods coupled with current events. Their reality of course is they are just shining the "master thieves" boots. Cause well paper is cheap and a lot of it can be printed unless you twist yourself into a pretzel making it more complicated than that simple fact. Why complicate your life.

    The real bottom line here. Your fear. I've shown you how unreasonable your fear is. Stop living in the shadows. A man should fear no one or any intimidation. Try to stifle a man he's going to react or cower or just walk away. Your dealing with and talking about crooked people. Some of you are really good people. Don't be afraid of reality. What you fail to grasp they are they are the ones cowering in the shadows. Then stop and ask yourself what enforces? Believe me they have to live like that. It's possible the name Rockefeller just might mean hiding under a rock.

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    Kevin says

    Whoever is opposing him could be a baby raping demon who's campaign promises include selling your children into slavery, murdering your wife, and wiping his ass with the constitution, and he'd still support him.

    Well said.

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    Honest Abe says

    What I find pathetic is your deranged focus on other people, and other peoples money. What other people earn is simply none of your business...UNLESS you are a money grubbing, power hungry liberal zombie who thinks you are entitled to what someone else has worked for.

    Apparently you are burdened with a 'ITS NOT FAIR" mentality. Earth to Iwog: LIFE ISN'T FAIR, now deal with it - without stealing from or manipulating others. Thats your problem, liberals have no honorable game plan other than theft and manipulation - which is obviously NOT HONORABLE.

    Classic Abeian hogwash.

    To Abe, our government paying its bills, and thus bringing spending under control is not honorable.

    To Abe, what's honorable is "deficits don't matter" we can spend all we want on off the books wars, gifts to our corporate friends, running up the deficit as much as possible (stealing from future generations).

    And then get this ! ABE's favorite part: After running up the deficit on tax cuts, wars, and corporate welfare - we can claim we have to undo all of FDR and Johnson's social programs. Because "keeping them would make us liberal zombie's who covet other people's money."

    So classic. Abe is a parody of a republican retard.

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    Honest Abe says

    Apparently you are burdened with a 'ITS NOT FAIR" mentality. Earth to Iwog: LIFE ISN'T FAIR, now deal with it - without stealing from or manipulating others

    My federal tax bill was $170,000 this year and I paid every cent. How much was your tax bill?

    Abe, almost everything you post is pure BS.

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    iwog says

    How will Romney make things better?

    Romney does understand Business and Economics far more than Obama.

    What is the evidence for this?

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    Iraq and Afganistan clearly shows you they don't care who the fuck they put in there or what anyone else thinks its just selling it so it all dosen't blow up in their face. Get a fucking clue. Then again they have me dealing from a fucking pluralistic deck. Which everyone else is to. Cause you believe. See. Believers are the best followers in the world. Someone stops believing and thats when their problems start. See Alfred E. Nueman over there. He don't give a fuck. He says just run it for me I don't want to be bothered. Alfreds ancestors probably thought. "Hey this Democracy shit really works. It's better than being dragged through the streets of Mario Land and being hung by the neck". When people get fucked up about things. We get torched. It's very simple really. Don't ever refer to your history books there is no fucking point. Publishers, publish history books and bibles in case that hasn't crossed your mind. Both entities more than likely have the same goal in mind. In case that hasn't crossed you mind.

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    ArtimusMaxtor says

    Iraq and Afganistan clearly shows you they don't care who the fuck they put in there or what anyone else thinks its just selling it so it all dosen't blow up in their face. Get a fucking clue. Then again they have me dealing from a fucking pluralistic deck. Which everyone else is to. Cause you believe. See. Believers are the best followers in the world. Someone stops believing and thats when their problems start.

    WTF are you talking about?

    Obama: "We're going to end the war in Iraq!"
    McCain: "No surrender in Iraq!"

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