At least he didn't smoke pot eh?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/10/us-usa-campaign-romney-idUSBRE8491B220120510
The Post interviewed several former classmates of Romney who recalled that he orchestrated the incident in which the presumed gay student, John Lauber, was tackled and pinned to the ground by a group of students, who wanted to cut the student's bleached-blond hair.
"As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors," the Post reported.
I've known plenty of sadistic people like Romney and I've known plenty of stoners like Obama might have been in high school. One type of person grows up to be a great productive guy with lots of friends and one type of person I wouldn't move a finger to save from drowning.
I'll let you Republican lemmings guess which is which. This story sickened me today and that doesn't happen often.
"I did some dumb things and if anybody was hurt by that or offended ... obviously, I apologize," ~ Mitt Romney

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Bigsby says
I'm not saying that the man is beyond redemption. Romney was a teenager, high as Charlie Sheen in a DEA evidence warehouse on pubescent testosterone. It's patently obvious that he's a different man today.
The problem is that he's speaking like a cad with a hangover on the night after a cocktail party. This is simply not how the leader of the most powerful nation on Earth ought to speak.
Furthermore, Presidents don't apologize over inconsequential garbage like this; and when they do apologize, they take real accountability. "If anybody was hurt or offended" when I unleashed my barberous side on a man I ordered restrained --this is the language of bullshit. Involuntarily shearing your fellow man is unlike mispronouncing his name: it is an unambiguously offensive and hurtful thing to do to him.
An appropriate response might admit fault, definitely expresses regret, and can makes the distance clear without seeming like it excuses the act (avoid the word 'but'.) A Presidential way to put it might be: "The incident in question is shameful, and I deeply regret it. I ask the American people to judge me not as the boy I was, but as the man I am."
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msilenus says
He's not the President.
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He hated gays when he was a teenager. He wants to outlaw gay marriage as an adult.
I had no problem with gays as a teenager. I believe in equality under law and that means gays can marry.
Yes, he's the same person he was then.
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Romney's way more of a pussy than McCain. Interesting that your idea of a tough guy, or bravery, is cutting some (presumably) effeminate guys hair while other guys hold him down.
That's not being a tough guy or hard ass. That just makes him the worst kind of asshole, and not in any conceivably good way.
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It wasn't a gay friendly world when he was a youngster (and we should remember, it still isn't). There was also a great deal less awareness let alone understanding of a great many things back then. He was a kid. Kids do bad things. Then they grow up... and maybe they continue to do bad things... maybe they change. Really, it's pretty pathetic dragging up this sort of crap. What's so difficult about focusing on what he has done as a political figure and what he intends to do?
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Why would a high school boy have a pair of hair stylist shears?
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Vicente says
It's possible for someone to be against gay bashing & bullying and also be against gay marriage. Really, it is.
Why do we so easily fall for the "false dilemma"?
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iwog says
And our problem is that we choose policy and candidates based on character so then the Mass media can now basically tell us for whom to vote.
We should be able to vote for policy, not character.
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wthrfrk80 says
Certainly it's possible. However folks who are scared and creeped out by one, usually are at best sanguine about the other. "It's just high school pranks & hijinks".
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He's filled out his application for the job of President, passed his phone screen, and is sitting in the American public's office being interviewed. We are trying to decide if he's fit for the job, based on how he performs for us.
The distinction you're drawing is not substantive.
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finally, someone understands me!
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ummmm , now I may be wrong .... but ..... the only way a stated policy can be counted on being carried out is if the promise is made by a person with character.
Lord Barry's folks met at the march in Selma ... when he was 3 .... interesting stuff this story telling.
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I'd committed one act of bullying. I'd pushed a kid out of a swing set at the age of 8 & I wasn't egged on by others. Instead, I was in a bad mood that day and wanted to take it out on someone who I thought couldn't fight back.
Well, although he wasn't hurt anymore than the minimal time he'd landed on the ground, I was never happy about that incident since then.
Sorry, but I don't buy excuses from bullies. Either you're an A-hole or you screwed up. That's all there is to it. If I were running for office, I'd admit that I pushed a kid off a swing set and apologize for it. Yes, I Rin, f'ed up that day, many decades ago.
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libs are a funny bunch ..... Lord Barry makes up shit as he goes, and it's all good ...... Romney makes a sissy boy feel bad about himself and all hell brakes loose! lol
How did that bossman from Isreal feel when Lord Barry dissed him at supper? I know, that don't matter.
How did those cops feel when Lord Barry said, "they acted stupidly", just becasue they did their job and the issue happened to be a negro?
How should Sheriff Joe and the citizens of Az feel with Lord Barry attacking them for wanting a safe and secure border and no more invasion?
I got picked on, just as all my buddies did and all of those before us. Every kid is either the bully or the target and the rolls change. Every kid that was a target got joy from watching their bully getting picked on by his bully. Right now I feel I am being bullied by activist judges in the Cal Courts that are forcing libtopian horseshit down my throat, inspite of what the ballot box says .... I feel bullied by the invaders from mexico that have flipped reality to a point where we must push 1 for english, but nothing is mentioned about Italian, German, Russian, Chineese, or any other lingo ..... I feel bullied by the liberal/progressive dope-smokers that control the educational system (I say dope-smokers, because they MUST be on drigs to come up with their stupid shit) .... I feel bullied by the wealth transfer system that takes money from producers and hands it to breeders without any restriction in use .... I feel bullied by the anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-normal, scum that can't read and understand the friggin constitution as it is written, so they dream up some weird ass bullshit instead for the lib-tilted supreme court to vote on. Yep, bullies suck, and liberal/leftist/progressive dope-headed pukes are the worst bullies America has ever produced. Lord Barry' pals Rom E and Eric H are the King Supreem Bullies. Say no to bullies!
EPA - bully
ACLU - bully
IRS - bully
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Did George Romney know his son was wandering around his high school with hair dresser sheers, leering at boy's hair dos and leaping upon them and re-styling their hair? And that his son was a cheerleader?
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So the son of the Governor has a group of friends he can command to hold down a weaker one and cut him up.
Sounds a lot like his adult life at Bain Capital, preying on the weak, picking companies apart.
I do see a pattern.
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msilenus says
And your desire for Presidents or Presidential candidates to have to so deliberately parse their speech that they basically never say anything that doesn't sound like it's passed muster with a room full of speech writers is hardly a positive step forward.
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I kind of want Romney to win. But then again, I think most Americans are ignorant god fearing assholes, and I want them to suffer.
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burritos says
The best way to make most Americans suffer is to elect Romney.
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You're missing the point. Desire has nothing to do with it. The man who represents our nation on the world stage needs to come off a certain way. Gravitas is not optional.
Granted, this is a particularly difficult spot in which to affect it. But he also failed particularly miserably.
Obama also had a long way to go when he got the job. During the first few months of his Presidency, it was not uncommont to catch him saying 'I' when articulating, for example, the foreign policy of his administration. He's picked it up on the job.
And Romney's not running against Senator Obama. He's running against President Obama. It's a little shocking that Romney's having trouble with this, of all things. One would think that with that stick up his ass, he'd have an easier time emulating backbone on camera.
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I find your choice of words here amusing.
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msilenus says
I rather think that it's you who's missing the point. He said something that YOU deemed not quite presidential enough. Big deal. What does it matter if this one comment wasn't quite phrased the way you would've liked? It's not the comment that makes him unsuitable to be President; it should be what you think of the policies he represents.
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Anyone with adult children or who has been alive awhile has probably figured out that people really don't ever change that much. I read this same story about Mitt Romney - Crazed Coiffure - and my first thought: natural enemy! I love to hate no creature more than a bully. Mitt's behavior goes beyond hi-fucking-jinks -- it's dark shit that scars a kid and can actually alter them forever as a person on a chromosomal level.
Now, in fairness...someone sent me this a while back, and I thought...hey...noiseless charity...Mitt's alright.
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You're saying my opinion does not matter, while both expending energy to dismiss your misunderstanding of it, and trying to tell me how I should think.
I count at least four ironies.
This degenerate conversation has long passed the point of uselessness.
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I didn't dismiss it. I didn't misunderstand it. I am not telling you how to think. And there wasn't anything ironic in my post.
I'm not saying your opinion doesn't matter; I'm saying your opinion isn't the be-all and end-all, and that there are far more important matters to consider when judging a candidate.
And by the way, your 'degenerate conversation' comment is just laughable - even more so coming from someone complaining about Romney's use of language.
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iwog says
How did we get to the point where we are forced to choose between far-left 60's radicals and far-right Ayn Rand assholes who want a return to Robber Baron capitalism?
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wthrfrk80 says
Obama is not a far-left radical. Obama is right of Ronald Reagan. Reagan raised income taxes when it became clear his huge tax cuts were creating insane deficits. Ronald Reagan granted illegal aliens amnesty. Ronald Reagan raised gasoline taxes and Social Security taxes. Reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times and was responsible for the national debt tripling in 8 years.
In 1980, Barack Obama would have been far too radial RIGHT (I'm not kidding) to win the Republican nomination.
The one thing we can say about American political discourse is that it has severed all ties to historical context and reality. When moderates start questioning Obama as being too liberal, we're in big trouble. He's actually much too conservative.
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Here's a clear example of what I'm talking about and a demonstration of the STUNNING stupidity of Republicans who idolize Reagan. Obama wants to raise the capital gains tax rate from 15% to 20%, an action many Republicans attack as job-killing. Yet Reagan is the only president to ever back a tax increase to cause capital gains to be taxed at the same rate as someone who works for a living.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/01/20/408345/reagan-raised-capital-gains-taxes/?mobile=nc
Reagan’s tax increase did not cause investment to fall, as many anti-tax ideologues had predicted.
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iwog says
I completely agree, when talking economic issues.
I'd like to see some moderation on social issues. Whether we like it or not, the main reason so many low-income folks vote Republican is because of social issues.
For example, Kerry might have won if it weren't for the whole "gay" issue becoming political. Just what we needed, another "hot button" social issue (like abortion) to help divide us into camps.
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I guess I could be described as a "blue collar Democrat" or a "Reagan Democrat". I'm a dying breed, I know. ;-)
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wthrfrk80 says
You and me both. Unfortunately Democrats are fighting a propaganda war and have felt it necessary to side with some misguided left wing groups on some issues.
Where is Teddy Roosevelt when we need him?
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iwog says
Amen to that.
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He's busy:
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No one cares
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As long as Mitt wears his sacred undergarments, I will vote for him. We need more Mormons in high places who can keep women in the kitchen where they belong. And maybe reform the sick homos who are a threat to marriage.
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Kevin says
Nice! I had no idea Teddy fought Bigfoots (Bigfeet?)
The things you find on the interwebs.....
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ROFLMAOMFAO
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Hazing is a good idea, keeps people from going in the wrong direction. If anything, this will send even more people to Romney's side.