Bill Clinton calls Obama an amateur


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Bill Clinton thought so little of President Obama — mocking him as an “amateur” — that he pressed his wife last summer to quit her job as secretary of state and challenge him in the primaries, a new book claims,

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  1. Kevin


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    1   8:14am Fri 11 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Oh my god a book said something?

  2. iwog


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    2   8:18am Fri 11 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    Edward Klein has been dismissed by anyone with a brain as yet another right wing lie machine. This is the same idiot who claimed Hillary Clinton had a lesbian lover.

    His books are trash and everyone knows it.

    Here's an interview of Klein by Al Franken and Joe Conason where he's pretty much ripped to shreds about factual errors in one of his other books, a hit piece on Hillary Clinton:

    http://mediamatters.org/research/200506240007

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    3   2:42pm Fri 11 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Hey, as long as Edward Klein makes money, it's ok right? In America, truth doesn't matter. What matters is money, power, and propaganda.

  4. APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch


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    4   2:44pm Fri 11 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    But it's such tasteless propaganda. Who wants to lie about Hiltard's lesbian lover when you can lie about Helen Mirren's lesbian lover, Tyra Banks. See? Isn't that a lot more interesting?

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    5   3:54pm Fri 11 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    Kevin says

    Oh my god a book said something?

    iwog says

    Here's an interview of Klein by Al Franken

    Woah somebody interviewed Al Franken...

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    CaptainShuddup says

    Woah somebody interviewed Al Franken...

    Irrelevant. No one cares what Al Franken said. What reveals Klein as a shameless liar is what Klein says.

    Most of the propaganda sewage comes from the right, not the left. Furthermore what extreme media DOES come from the left is ignored while the extreme media from the right is gobbled up and featured on Fox.

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    8   4:29pm Fri 11 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Another funny tidbit in the article is the touting of one poll (Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll ) that shows Romney with a lead, even though in most polls Obama is ahead and in the electoral college count Mitt is getting creamed.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/05/09/obama-vs-romney-how-electoral-college-math-adds-up/

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    rowemoore says

    Another funny tidbit in the article is the touting of one poll (Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll ) that shows Romney with a lead, even though in most polls Obama is ahead and in the electoral college count Mitt is getting creamed.

    Rasmussen is a joke and their polling results are consistently biased. They only start conforming to other polls around October, and even then they make horrendous errors like missing the Hawaii Senatorial race wrong by 40 points.

    Yet Republicans will defend them because the Republican party is a religion and not based on political ideology.

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    11   7:16pm Fri 11 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)  

    "Bill Clinton calls Obama an amateur.."

    Tell us something that we don't already know!!

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    12   8:32pm Fri 11 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    We all know he at least thought it, whether or not someone heard him actually say it.
    The well documented quote was something about Obama would have been fetching them coffee a couple years before 2008.
    What difference does it make whether Clinton actually spoke what was so obvious?
    An amateur is someone with no professional experience for his task.
    A guy who was a community organizer with no executive experience of any kind is by definition an amateur as a chief executive.

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    clambo says

    A guy who was a community organizer with no executive experience of any kind is by definition an amateur as a chief executive.

    Barack Obama has done an excellent job handling the office of president. I disagree with some of his decisions, but the technical skill he has demonstrated is undeniable.

    Putting Leon Panetta in the office of Secretary of Defense was questioned by nearly everyone, yet he has performed brilliantly. Many of the new extremely successful anti-terrorist actions can be credited to both Obama and Panetta. They make Bush look like a bumbling idiot and they are knocking off Al Quaeda members faster than I can keep track.

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    iwog says

    Barack Obama has done an excellent job handling the office of president.

    "My name is Emer J. Fudd I'm a millionaire, I own a mansion and a yacht. "

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    iwog says

    they are knocking off Al Quaeda members faster than I can keep track.

    Which the GOP complained about.

    Real conservatives live to kill.

    Fucking partisans.

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    APOCALYPSEFUCK is Tony Manero says

    Which the GOP complained about.

    Absolutely true which is why I say there's no ideological battle in this country. It's either a battle against a religious cult, or a hopeless fight to convince delusional people what reality is.

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    17   11:44am Sat 12 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Ike, hear our prayers!

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    18   1:21pm Sat 12 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    iwog says

    They make Bush look like a bumbling idiot

    whoa whoa...wait...

    There was a period when Bush wasn't a bumbling idiot?

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    wthrfrk80 says

    There was a period when Bush wasn't a bumbling idiot?

    Well conservatives always talk about Bush's success in protecting us from terrorists. It turns out that Bush did a pathetically poor job at killing Al Qaeda.

    But yes. Bush was a clown in all regards.

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    20   3:11pm Sat 12 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Yup

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    I suppose it's hard to prove a negative like, "there were no terrorist attacks in the US during Bush's presidency, therefore it was Bush who prevented terrorist attacks."

    My two cents on Bush: if he would have focused on Afghanistan rather than starting another war in Iraq his presidency *might* have been a success. It sounds like he had a lot of "yes men" around him rather than people that could have offered constructive criticism, "brutal facts," and such.

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    wthrfrk80 says

    I suppose it's hard to prove a negative like, "there were no terrorist attacks in the US during Bush's presidency, therefore it was Bush who prevented terrorist attacks."

    I have a dog whose main purpose in my household is to keep the polar bears out of my yard. She has been exceedingly successful, having ensured that no polar bears enter my yard far into the future. I'm very proud of her efforts - she lays on the porch and doesn't do a damn thing except eat, sleep, snore & fart.

    And yet, if she ran for president she would be much more successful than gw, who managed to screw up our country far into the future. Then his Republican buddies can blame it all on President Obama, who inherited the worst economy since the great depression. The bailouts started with gw, the housing bubble popped and the World Trade Centers were decimated during his presidency. His response was to create a war, spending billions to kill a guy who had nothing to do with 9/11.

    Some asshole wrote a book saying that Clinton believes Obama is an amateur? Who gives a shit what some guy Clinton says?

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    I have magic pennies that prevent alien attacks and zombie outbreaks. I'll sell one to you for $100. Double your money back if you are ever attacked by an alien or zombie.

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    24   7:07pm Sat 12 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    This:

    elliemae says

    I have a dog whose main purpose in my household is to keep the polar bears out of my yard. She has been exceedingly successful, having ensured that no polar bears enter my yard far into the future. I'm very proud of her efforts - she lays on the porch and doesn't do a damn thing except eat, sleep, snore & fart.

    and this:

    Kevin says

    I have magic pennies that prevent alien attacks and zombie outbreaks. I'll sell one to you for $100. Double your money back if you are ever attacked by an alien or zombie.

    Are perfect examples of the logic Republicans use when they claimed George Bush protected us from terrorist attack. (never mind the fact he didn't)

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    Bush concentrated on one thing - Victor Ashe fucking him in the ass.

    Cheney looted America and murdered Iraq and Afghanistan.

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    26   9:32pm Sat 12 May 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    iwog says

    Are perfect examples of the logic Republicans use when they claimed George Bush protected us from terrorist attack. (never mind the fact he didn't)

    Well that's the thing though...how can anyone prove either "yes he did" or "no he didn't"? Isn't the only correct answer, "nobody really knows"?

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