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Greatest President Ever


By Travis Bickle   Follow   Sat, 19 May 2012, 11:07pm PDT   4,513 views   30 comments   Watch (1)   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

Time to put Mr. Obama where he belongs:

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Honest Abe   befriend   ignore   Sun, 20 May 2012, 12:25am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (2)   Dislike (2)     Comment 1

Right on. Its time to flush the White House.

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Sun, 20 May 2012, 12:37am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 2

The only good thing about Obama is that he pisses off the bat-shit crazy right wingers. The bad thing about Obama is that he is a bat-shit crazy right winger in all but color and party affiliation.

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Sun, 20 May 2012, 12:43am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 3

Makes sense. Nothing makes a conservative shit faster than the sight of a black man in the White House.

Thank you, but I can't take credit for that joke. I stole it from Abraham Lincoln. Yes, that Abraham Lincoln.

Lincoln told a story of Ethan Allen, an American Revolution war hero who went to Britain after the war. (And who oddly enough has a furniture company named after him.) After he arrived, the British, still upset about having lost the war, put their measly Brit minds together and came up with a plot to try to embarrass Allen by putting a large portrait of George Washington in the only outhouse where he might encounter it. They had hoped Allen would be upset about the indignity of George Washington being in an outhouse. That night, after dinner and conversation, Allen made his way out, candle in hand, and did his business. He came back in as high of spirits as ever.

“Didn’t you see George Washington in there?!” they said.

“Oh yes,” said Allen. “Perfectly appropriate place for him”

“What do you mean?” They said.

“Well,” he said, “there is nothing to make an Englishman shit faster than the sight of George Washington.

ArtimusMaxtor   befriend   ignore   Sun, 20 May 2012, 1:09am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 4

Time to put the Federal Reserve where it belongs. More like it. I don't care if Howdies Doodie wins. One more time for the fucking deaf. If the entire "Government" is in debt. If the supposition that the Borrower is the Slave to the lender. A bible term. If they furnish you with Army toys and you owe on those Army toys. Which we gottem' you have to fucking admit that. Then how do you pay for those fucking weapons? You can't make the payments get it?

Travis Bickle   befriend   ignore   Sun, 20 May 2012, 6:21am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 5

Dan8267 says

Nothing makes a conservative shit faster than the sight of a BLACK man in the White House.

1) I'm a swing-voting independent, as either side of the aisle always has a tendancy to take their ideology off the deep end - and for this reason I'm reluctant to commit to a label. Further, it will be swing-voters & independents who will call this election....

2) I find it interesting that alhough I made NO reference whatsoever to Obama's race/ethnicity at the top of this post, it is always those on the LEFT to bring up the issue of race FIRST (and besides, I thought Obama was half white). This tells me who on the ideological divide is really obsessed with identity politics....

3) Legitimate politics should be about policies concerning resources and how they are managed throughout a society, not about who came from where, what color someone is, who's heritage is what, who sucks this, or who licks that....

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Wed, 23 May 2012, 3:25am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 6

Travis Bickle says

I'm a swing-voting independent

Ditto, but every year the right moves further into la-la land and is less likely to be on the correct side of an issue. But most of the time, I find myself disguised with both sides. It's just that the right is scarier because their misdeeds involve killing, torture, and sexual humiliation.

Travis Bickle says

I find it interesting that alhough I made NO reference whatsoever to Obama's race/ethnicity at the top of this post, it is always those on the LEFT to bring up the issue of race FIRST

I will always go for the humor when available. Don't take the joke too seriously.

However, you are incorrect that the left always brings up race first. There is race baiting, however, there is also a lot of racism since Obama was elected. The right just uses code for racism, and not exactly sophisticated, subtle code. Kenya and witch doctor are code for "black". Elitist is code for "uppity". It's not hard to figure out what they are saying when they call Obama an "elitist Kenyan".

The right's codes are as lame as the lefts. Like the cops don't know what "meet you at 4:20 means".

Travis Bickle says

Legitimate politics should be about policies concerning resources

On that we actually agree. Too bad most Americans and the media aren't interested in debating the actual issues. For example, Obama's policies are pretty much identical to Bush's. As such, I can understand how a person could like or hate both those politicians, but to like one and hate the other smacks of hypocrisy regardless of which one you like.

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Wed, 23 May 2012, 3:30am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 7

ArtimusMaxtor says

Then how do you pay for those fucking weapons? You can't make the payments get it?

Easy solution: don't. We don't need more weapons. We need to modernize our infrastructure and convert our economy from a declining 20th century economy to a prosperous 21st century economy. Every year we wait, BRICS gets more and more ahead of us.

Make no mistake. The superpowers of the next century will be based on economic might, not military might. Technology diminishes the effectiveness of brute force and exponentially increases the importance of economic productivity in the military arena.

For example, if China were to start a war on the U.S. today, it could win without firing a single shot. All China would have to do is dump all of its treasuries. All other nations would be forced to follow. The dollar would collapse, Wall Street would collapse, unemployment would skyrocket, and the whole economic engine that drives our military would seize up. American's economic interests are her national security interests.

iwog   befriend   ignore   Wed, 23 May 2012, 4:00am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (4)   Dislike (2)     Comment 8

Travis Bickle says

2) I find it interesting that alhough I made NO reference whatsoever to Obama's race/ethnicity at the top of this post, it is always those on the LEFT to bring up the issue of race FIRST (and besides, I thought Obama was half white). This tells me who on the ideological divide is really obsessed with identity politics....

This is disingenuous bullshit.

Every time I ask a "conservative" to list the reasons Obama is worse than Romney, here or anywhere else, they run away from the conversation.

So you get pissed off when a Democrat doesn't understand your ideology and grasps the only straw that is left?

freak80   befriend   ignore   Wed, 23 May 2012, 3:48pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 9

There really isn't much difference between Obama and Romney, except on tax issues. Obama is ok with raising top tax rates back up to the "socialist" levels seen under the socialist Ronald Reagan. Romney wants to keep top tax rates low so that the wealthy can create new slave-labor jobs in China.

Bigsby   befriend   ignore   Wed, 23 May 2012, 3:50pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 10

It's great events that make leaders 'great.'

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Wed, 23 May 2012, 5:00pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 11

Bigsby says

It's great events that make leaders 'great.'

I'd consider a president to be great if he just
1. Kept the peace.
2. Reformed the government so it ran well and didn't violate rights.
3. Reformed the economy so that all people who want to be productive can and get to keep most of the wealth they create instead of losing it to "owners".
4. Reformed law to protect the environment.

I don't care how boring these transitions are. Hell, the more boring, the better. No great events are needed in my opinion. ...just great engineering.

clambo   befriend   ignore   Wed, 23 May 2012, 5:05pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike (3)     Comment 12

The list of why Romney is superior to Obama for the job is huge, but if you haven't noticed what a fool Obama has been, then it won't help to list them.
There is ONE thing that Obama wanted but his own cabinet was against that I totally approved of.
I wish he had the guts to stand up to them on this particular issue.
I will allow the dear readers to guess what I am talking about.

Bigsby   befriend   ignore   Wed, 23 May 2012, 5:33pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 13

Dan8267 says

I'd consider a president to be great if he just
1. Kept the peace.
2. Reformed the government so it ran well and didn't violate rights.
3. Reformed the economy so that all people who want to be productive can and get to keep most of the wealth they create instead of losing it to "owners".
4. Reformed law to protect the environment.

I don't care how boring these transitions are. Hell, the more boring, the better. No great events are needed in my opinion. ...just great engineering.

Hence the quotation marks.

Vicente   befriend   ignore   Thu, 24 May 2012, 2:54am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (3)   Dislike (1)     Comment 14

Dan8267 says

I don't care how boring these transitions are. Hell, the more boring, the better. No great events are needed in my opinion. ...just great engineering.

That doesn't SELL on TV ad spots. Particularly GOP is not at all interested in the "grownup" candidate they want the one who can wear Reagan's cape and spew disproven nonsense.

John Hunstman really inspired the GOP primary delegates didn't he?

I think I've made my point.

iwog   befriend   ignore   Thu, 24 May 2012, 8:08am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 15

wthrfrk80 says

There really isn't much difference between Obama and Romney, except on tax issues. Obama is ok with raising top tax rates back up to the "socialist" levels seen under the socialist Ronald Reagan. Romney wants to keep top tax rates low so that the wealthy can create new slave-labor jobs in China.

Obama isn't going to start a new war. Romney is already flag waving about Iran. There are many other significant differences too. (Supreme Court)

bob2356   befriend   ignore   Thu, 24 May 2012, 10:39am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 16

iwog says

Obama isn't going to start a new war.

Proof?

Vicente   befriend   ignore   Thu, 24 May 2012, 1:44pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 17

iwog says

Obama isn't going to start a new war.

It depends on your definition.

Invade Iran? No.

Assist in toppling Assad? I could see it.

Seems to me the man is OK with military force as long as it's small conflicts that are winnable, anything not involving prolonged ground action.

iwog   befriend   ignore   Thu, 24 May 2012, 2:07pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 18

The United States is not at risk from any country, so moving our policy from invading nations to one of small police actions is a huge improvement in manpower, cost, and international image.

What Bush did, dropping cluster bombs on a peaceful Baghdad, is nothing less than a genuine war crime. Unfortunately since most of America was on the bandwagon at the time, there's not much we can do about it.

bob2356   befriend   ignore   Thu, 24 May 2012, 2:14pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 19

Vicente says

Seems to me the man is OK with military force as long as it's small conflicts that are winnable, anything not involving prolonged ground action.

That was the original plan in Iraq, remember?

freak80   befriend   ignore   Fri, 25 May 2012, 3:22am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 20

iwog says

Obama isn't going to start a new war. Romney is already flag waving about Iran.

Will Romney start a new war? Or is he just pandering to rural rednecks who want to shoot "A-Rabs" (even though Iran is Persian, not Arab)?

Agree that Democrats have a more rational approach to foreign policy than the Republicans (with their "just bomb 'em" approach).

Yes, there will probably be the usual Supreme Court litmus test on Abortion. But even if Roe vs. Wade were overturned, it wouldn't end legal abortion. Heck, if Roe vs. Wade were overturned the Republicans wouldn't have anything to campaign on anymore.

bob2356   befriend   ignore   Fri, 25 May 2012, 5:16am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 21

wthrfrk80 says

Will Romney start a new war? Or is he just pandering to rural rednecks who want to shoot "A-Rabs" (even though Iran is Persian, not Arab)?

Romney pander? Shocking, never happened.

iwog   befriend   ignore   Fri, 25 May 2012, 5:22am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 22

wthrfrk80 says

Will Romney start a new war? Or is he just pandering to rural rednecks who want to shoot "A-Rabs" (even though Iran is Persian, not Arab)?

Republicans understand that war is the only place where they have an advantage and they will use it every chance they get.

Vicente   befriend   ignore   Fri, 25 May 2012, 5:26am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 23

Obama hasn't REALLY made it yet.

Printing up novelty toilet paper is easy.

Anyone commissioned one of these?

Travis Bickle   befriend   ignore   Tue, 29 May 2012, 5:39pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 24

iwog says

This is disingenuous bullshit.
Every time I ask a "conservative" to list the reasons Obama is worse than Romney, here or anywhere else, they run away from the conversation.

Hey AFFLAC -

again, although I identify as independent - here is a list for you:

First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.

First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.

First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.

First President to violate the War Powers Act.

First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.

First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party, a violation of the U.S. Constitution.

First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.

First President to recommend changing our National Anthem as it portrays and promotes violence and is warlike in its theme.

First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer Breakfast and activities.

First President to initiate a Cash for Clunkers Program to clean up exhaust that adds to global warming, then extended it because it was so popular — wasting hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars.

First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.

First President to bypass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.

First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.

First President to demand a company hand over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.

First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space.

First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.

First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke out on the reasons for their rate increases.

First President to tell a major manufacturing company which state they are allowed to locate a factory in.

First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).

First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.

First President to fire an inspector general of Americorps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.

First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.

First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date.

First President to pledge complete transparency while campaigning, then hide his medical, educational,and travel records.

First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.

First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’.

First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.

First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.

First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

First President to repeat the Holy Qur’an and tells us that the early morning Islamic call to worship is the most beautiful sound on earth.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-rather-impressive-list-of-accomplishments/

I doubt Romney would approach the Executive Office of the President in this manner, so I'm willing take my chances given Obamas list of acccompisments here. B.O. won't get my vote again . . .

Bigsby   befriend   ignore   Tue, 29 May 2012, 8:38pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 25

Ah yes, the Western Journalism Center. You get your unbiased 'facts' from the WJC, do you? That right there says everything you need to know about Travis and Cloud.

phillock   befriend   ignore   Tue, 29 May 2012, 8:55pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 26

Did Patrick let this thread run to show how gullible Americans are in the so-called Information Age? If you seriously believe that Obama went on "multiple global 'apology tours' ", for example, you've swallowed some phony bait-- hook, line, and sinker.

It's some consolation that most of the people on this forum reacted with skepticism. Go to a "true believer" website (like the one that ran the 'First President' list originally), and the comments section will be crammed with hate-filled, illiterate nonsense from people who just lap up all the right-wing talking points.

Honest Abe   befriend   ignore   Tue, 29 May 2012, 11:01pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 27

Travis, great list. We've heard of most of these over the past few years, however its really powerful to see them all one after the other - on a list. Its got a lot of visual impact.

BTW, you missed one: First President who admitted EATING A DOG.

freak80   befriend   ignore   Wed, 30 May 2012, 12:50am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 28

Hey now, this is America. Free speech is the freedom to repeat lies often enough until they become the truth. Lies are what America was founded upon.

Bigsby   befriend   ignore   Wed, 30 May 2012, 12:55am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 29

Cloud says

Bigsby, you don't get do you?

All news and news outlets are biased. Get out of kindergarten. The reason they make those desks so small is so adults can't fit in them.

I know I know your favorite response "Fox News." Never watch it. But I would be the first to agree they are biased. So what?

If the media was a football match the Right would have 2 guys on the field to the Lefts 11 guys. You and your friends still own the game. Sooooo what?

Back in the earlier part of our century newspapers didn't pretend to be objective. You had the Republican Star and the Democrat Examiner.

Grow up.

You need to grow up if you think you can compare the 'journalism' in WJC with the likes of say the BBC etc. If you want to get as accurate a take on the news as possible, you go to the LEAST biased sources you can find, not a bloody site that is openly, flagrantly biased. Get it?

FunTime   befriend   ignore   Wed, 30 May 2012, 3:29am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 30

This source doesn't seem to cover negative and positive aspects of every subject they cover. I appreciate the criticism of Romney as evidence they will criticize both major parties in the U.S., but this "journalism" seems to carry the same bias as other sources of journalism in the U.S. I prefer sources like NPR because I at least sometimes hear positive coverage of conservative viewpoints and interviews with conservatives. This sometimes happens on Fox News too. Does this happen at this Western Journalism source? It looks scant at best. That suggests real problems of following an agenda rather than the skill of observation for using it as a reference.

Is there criticism of the Bush presidencies covered by these journalists? I would think that would be a minimum qualification to consider them observers. I didn't take the time just now to find archives that go back more.

Founded in 1991 by Joseph Farah (the brains behind WND.com news website) and James H. Smith (former publisher of the Sacramento Union), the Western Center for Journalism has been sponsoring and training investigative journalists for over two decades.
The WCJ first made its mark following the suspicious death of Deputy White House Counsel Vincent Foster during the Clinton presidency.

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