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Creationism Vs Evolution


By Dan8267   Follow   Sat, 9 Jun 2012, 10:54pm   2,211 views   18 comments
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  1. HEY YOU


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    1   12:36am Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    What are you trying to do,turn this into a religious thread. ROFL!

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    2   8:13am Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Well, this video could have gone under either, but I thought it more of a science education issue.

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    3   8:33am Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Dan, will you please provide us statistics of people who know.

    While ur at it. Google what the big guy was up to prior to the singularity.

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    4   9:15am Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    TMAC54 says

    Dan, will you please provide us statistics of people who know.

    Know what?

    TMAC54 says

    While ur at it. Google what the big guy was up to prior to the singularity.

    According to ceiling cat, he was masturbating for all eternally before creation. And ceiling cat doesn't lie.

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    5   10:02am Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

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    6   10:13am Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Dan8267 says

    Well, this video could have gone under either, but I thought it more of a science education issue.

    Yeah I agree that it is a more science education issue.

    Clearly people can believe in god, and accept scientific discover at the same time. What is troubling is that almost half of Americans being so scientifically illiterate that they believe humans are less than 10k years old.

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    7   12:42pm Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    leoj707 says

    Clearly people can believe in god, and accept scientific discover at the same time.

    Yes, people can hold two contradicting beliefs at the same time, but obviously two contradicting beliefs cannot be both true.

    Ultimately, the laws of physics leave no room for the supernatural. As soon as any supernatural being, say a god, interacts with anything natural, say a pencil by pushing it, then either the supernatural being has to violate the laws of physics (conservation of energy in this case), which is really easy to observe and would be grossly obvious, or the supernatural being has to conform to the laws of nature, in which case it's not supernatural but rather natural.

    So, if one accepts that the universe is intelligible and that the natural laws on which we base airplanes, nuclear reactors, and computers, then one has to accept that there is no supernatural god to avoid an obvious contradiction. Of course, that leaves us with the question of what a "natural god" would be.

    A natural god could not be all-powerful since he would be severely constrained by the same laws of nature that constrain us. Nor could natural god be all-knowing since that violates the Uncertainty Principle. So what exactly is the criteria for a god? A natural god at best would be a comic book hero like the polytheistic pantheon of ancient Greece. Green Lantern, Iron Man, and the Hulk would be gods by that standard. Would you worship the Hulk or look towards him for moral guidance?

    Clock Maker God would be a natural god, but as I shown before, he's just Sheldon Cooper in front of a particle accelerator. Hardly a source of meaning or moral guidance.

    The God of the Gaps in no way implies a sentient being, nonetheless one that cares about humans or is a moral authority. And if God of the Gaps is supernatural, we can discount him. If he is natural, he is no god.

    The bottom line is that the laws of nature, and even the laws of logic, simply don't allow for the kind of god that people want: a magic daddy who will make everything all right in the end. Life just isn't like that.

  8. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich


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    8   1:26pm Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    God fucked the great sky turtle in the ass, and the great sky turtle started shitting universes. One of them is ours. If you need to believe this, I want a dollar in royalties.

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    9   2:03pm Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    And that is why Fiji has the turtle on it's two dollar coin!

    The coin clearly picks the turtle pooping out universes. And for some reason the Queen of England is also on the coin. I think she inspects the poo.

  10. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich


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    10   2:22pm Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Dan8267 says

    And that is why Fiji has the turtle on it's two dollar coin!

    The coin clearly picks the turtle pooping out universes. And for some reason the Queen of England is also on the coin. I think she inspects the poo.

    Fiji refuses to pay my genesis myth royalties. Sovereign blah, blah, blah. . .

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    11   6:08pm Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Dan8267 says

    TMAC54 says

    Dan, will you please provide us statistics of people who know.

    Know what?

    Your video states percentages of people who believe in ,,,, WHATEVER it is they believe in. I want to speak only to those who really know.
    You know, like Bernanke.

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    12   6:23pm Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Although we can find wheelbarrows full of logic against any supreme being concept, I find it amuzing the more we learn, the more the scientific community is really contemplating the W.T.F. concept.
    GOD may be a refrigerator MAGNET !

    We can now see 13.7 billion light years in all directions. Is our purpose to save all the banks in the entire cosmos ?

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    13   7:45pm Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    We can all believe as we choose. We also have the right to be wrong.
    Everyone can pick a God from the ~ 2800 that have existed in the history of man. Of course everyone knows the one they pick is the only true God.

    http://wiki.answers.com
    /Q/How_many_gods_and_goddesses_are_there

    TMAC54@ 6;23,
    Great last sentence!!

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    14   8:26pm Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    TMAC54 says

    Your video states percentages of people who believe in

    The only thing I know about the video is what's in the video.

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    15   8:27pm Sun 10 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Why does Bernanke look like a lolcat?

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    16   12:34am Mon 11 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Dan8267 says

    Would you worship the Hulk or look towards him for moral guidance?

    Maybe the Credible Hulk.

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    17   6:28am Mon 11 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Dan8267 says

    Ultimately, the laws of physics leave no room for the supernatural.

    I'm an atheist, but I need to point out that the word "SUPERnatural" indicates that an entity is outside of and above natural laws. The laws of physics would not apply.

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    18   9:06am Mon 11 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    wbblair3 says

    I'm an atheist, but I need to point out that the word "SUPERnatural" indicates that an entity is outside of and above natural laws. The laws of physics would not apply.

    Which means that if a "supernatural" entity interacted with a natural entity, the result would been a clearly observable violation of natural laws such as the conservation of energy. See the god/pencil example.

    The only way to accept supernatural entities without violating all the laws of nature is to require that supernatural entities cannot interact with natural entities. In which case, you get no god. For the supernatural god cannot have created the universe or even send a message to mortal men as these would be interactions.

    Under such a dichotomy, not only is there no motivation to believe in the supernatural, but doing so gains you nothing. And, of course, anyone who claims an interaction with the supernatural would have to be mistaken or lying.

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