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Human rights issue, female soldiers punished for reporting rape

By Dan8267   Follow   Wed, 13 Jun 2012, 5:29pm   2,246 views   30 comments
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In a shocking pattern of behavior, our military has punished and even trumped up military charges of misconduct against female soldiers who were rape victims for reporting the rapes.

The relevant portion is of the following video is just one minute long, from 08:00 to 09:00.

Somehow I suspect that the "social conservatives" will have a problem with this clip exposing the crimes and will seek to blame the victims or those who tell their stories. I would appeal to the better natures of those conservatives to realize that this should not in any way be a left-right issue, but a human rights issue. It is utterly inexcusable to persecute rape victims for reporting the crime committed against them.

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1. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,695 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   1   5:32pm Wed 13 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   The beginning of the video also has a good clip of Al Franken talking about torture and extraordinary rendition.

2. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,695 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   2   5:19pm Fri 15 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   So you're answer is that all the women in the army who report rape are liars. Every single one of them. Oh yeah, and the women who join the army are usually leftist hippies, you know, because the military life is so appealing to hippies. I guess I was wrong: rape is a left-right issue. The left is against rape, and the right if for it.

3. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,695 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   3   7:15pm Tue 19 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Ruki says I am saying whatever Bill Maher shows is full of shit Bill Maher wasn't the one reporting rape. The female soldiers were. Are you calling them all liars or not?

4. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,695 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   4   7:18pm Tue 19 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Ruki says Either you amend your libelous statements about me or I'll take it up with Patrick. Seriously, you are WAY over the top. A libelous statement would be something like "Ruki is a sexually frustrated loser who is so upset he could never get laid that he is actually in favor of women soldiers being raped." So, let me just say that Ruki is a sexually frustrated loser who is so upset he could never get laid that he is actually in favor of women soldiers being raped.

5. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

   5   8:51pm Tue 19 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Ruki says I am saying whatever Bill Maher shows is full of shit, so I require a lot more independently corroborated proof of all this before I can even remotely believe it. The Left has engaged countless times in false 'report's like this. The Bush National Guard Memo Fraud by Dan Rather, for example. we have the press, and some certainly hide behind the press pass. they are the self appointed 4th arm of the government accountable to (i have no idea)!

6. robertoaribas Follow Befriend (23) 55 threads 3,783 comments Scottsdale, AZ robertoaribas's website

   6   9:36pm Tue 19 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Ruki says This is Bill Maher and Al Franken we are talking about. As for the women being 'interviewed', I'd like to see some independent corroboration of these claims. I will doubt we'll ever see any. It is so bad that the Hard Left has to stoop to his kind of bullshit. Really. And it's even worse when you consider the fact that rape is a fact of life and leaves real victims -- in any sector of our society. cnn work a bit better for you? it took 10 seconds to find that on google, so if you weren't so biased, you would have looked it up yourself rather than poo-pooing the charges. http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/14/health/military-sexual-assaults-personality-disorder/index.html

7. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,695 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   7   9:47pm Tue 19 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Even that would not have been necessary if he actually watched the video. The lawyer for the rape victims came forth and explained what happened.

8. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,695 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   8   9:50pm Tue 19 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   robertoaribas says http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/14/health/military-sexual-assaults-personality-disorder/index.html Great link though, thanks.

9. Patrick Follow Befriend (54) 5,185 threads 6,157 comments 46 male Menlo Park, CA Premium

   9   4:13am Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Ruki says Either you amend your libelous statements about me or I'll take it up with Patrick. I don't think it's possible to libel an anonymous user.

10. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,695 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    10   10:52am Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Patrick says I don't think it's possible to libel an anonymous user. Damn, I was really trying. Ironically, Ruki libels Bill Maher all the time. Man, the Republicans and the Christian right really hate that guy. I think it's because he points out all their hypocrisies.

11. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 247 threads 4,699 comments

    11   1:45pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Dan8267 says . I think it's because he points out all their hypocrisies. NO it's because he looks like a Ford dealer.

12. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,695 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    12   1:56pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Conservatives love Ford. It's us libduhs who drive Volvos, you know, safe, reliable cars.

13. YesYNot Follow Befriend (2) 15 threads 428 comments Reston, VA

    13   2:49pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   ^That's a little ironic considering Volvo sold their brand to Ford, who then sold it to a Chinese company. Blaming these women is ridiculous. If you think about the number of men and women in the military, any less than 50 rapes would be statistically weird, so it is not surprising that these women were raped. The fact that they were abused after the fact by their superiors is pretty disgusting.

14. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    14   3:23pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Ruki says deliberately libeled me anyway. ...and speaking of shrek... If I remember correctly in the final days of the shrek account there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth over accusations of libel... Anyway, more to the topic, people often do not realize that men-on-men rape is not entirely uncommon in the military as well. http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/03/the-military-s-secret-shame.html

15. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    15   3:27pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Dan8267 says Conservatives love Ford. It's us libduhs who drive Volvos, you know, safe, reliable cars. Interestingly enough I saw an article on this today. Conservatives prefer BMW (socialist pinko-euro-commie brand) and Liberals prefer Jeep (all American brand). Who would have guessed.

16. everything Follow Befriend (2) 3 threads 546 comments Madison, WI

    16   3:51pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Not saying it's right, but women like thugs/bad boys, half the time they are asking for it, wanting to be a victim. I watch old movies where some bad boy guy rapes a girl, and she's all cool with it. American women are an interesting lot. I'm one of those nice guys, so I don't have to worry much about girls as they are not really attracted to that personality type.

17. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    17   3:55pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   everything says Not saying it's right, but women like thugs/bad boys, half the time they are asking for it, wanting to be a victim. I watch old movies where some bad boy guy rapes a girl, and she's all cool with it. So, rape is OK then? Well... half the time at least? Does this go for men who are raped as well? Or don't you watch those kinds of movies?

18. everything Follow Befriend (2) 3 threads 546 comments Madison, WI

    18   4:08pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Supposedly, with the numbers of unreported rapes, then I'd say yeah sure, it's ok as they apparently keep going back for more.. Like I said, they are attracted to those types, looks to me like many women have no problem with it. You hear even less about women being raped by their husbands. Not sure about men being raped, seems to me, our society is even more ok with that.

19. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    19   4:16pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   everything says Supposedly, with the numbers of unreported rapes, then I'd say yeah sure, it's ok as they apparently keep going back for more.. Like I said, they are attracted to those types, looks to me like many women have no problem with it. Yes, sounds exactly like something a "nice guy" would say. Not at all something that would be said by a bitter lonely misogynist who is considering restoring to rape. everything says Not sure about men being raped, seems to me, our society is even more ok with that. Hmmm... yes, men report rape much less frequently than women. So, I guess men really like dicks and other objects forced into their orifices! After all they do seem to keep "going back for more."

20. everything Follow Befriend (2) 3 threads 546 comments Madison, WI

    20   4:29pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Lol, now I'm the rapist. Dude, like I said, women won't go near nice guys, so no worries here. I'm also skinny, bald, don't shave, dress like a loser, and I'm older, so that helps keep them away. You can call me a misogynist all day long, or anything you want, I'm ok with it. Human nature is what it is, I can't stop/change chemistry, vanity, cycles of abuse, etc.

21. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    21   4:39pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   everything says Lol, now I'm the rapist. Haha, so now... "considering restoring to rape" = rapist? everything says I'm also skinny, bald, don't shave, dress like a loser, and I'm older, so that helps keep them away. None of these things in any combination will keep you from getting a date. You should be working on the whole creepy "Women want to be raped" vibe. In spite of your (yes misogynist) view on the psychology of women they do tend to steer away from that creepy "rapist" vibe. everything says Human nature is what it is, can't stop chemistry, or the cyclical nature of abuse either. Christ, next you will probably saying that molested kids are also "cool with it" and they "keep going back for more."

22. everything Follow Befriend (2) 3 threads 546 comments Madison, WI

    22   4:45pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   You live in a country where the girl picks the man, they are essentially the pursuers, so often posing as victims these days. Just because I don't need or want a woman in my life. Also, don't need/want a sex life either, yuk just thinking how many guys some of these girls have been with. That makes me the bad guy?, guess I'm not so nice after all. You are way behind the times friend, way behind.

23. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    23   5:08pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   everything says You live in a country where the girl picks the man, they are essentially the pursuers. Hmmm...you really don't know how courtship and dating work at all? You ever head the phrase, "I chased her until she caught me"? I am by no means a ladies-man or "player", but in my day (you and I are close in age) I did OK for myself. One thing that I know for sure is you can't wait for a woman to pursue you (I can count on one hand the times that a woman has directly "hit on" me). That said, yes the woman has to take an interest in you. Anyway, I guess it does not matter because... everything says Just because I don't need or want a woman in my life. everything says That makes me the bad guy?, guess I'm not so nice after all. Yes, nice guys are not apologists for rape. Women -- like men -- do not always make the best choices in mates. Also, women -- like men -- are susceptible to lies and manipulation. Almost always when people are embarrassed/shamed/degraded they do not want to share it with the world (for exceptions to this please visit the Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco).

24. everything Follow Befriend (2) 3 threads 546 comments Madison, WI

    24   6:14pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   This man needs a woman like a fish needs a bicycle. Contrary to what you say, women love tales of abuse, they wallow in it.

25. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,695 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    25   7:33pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   leoj707 says Anyway, more to the topic, people often do not realize that men-on-men rape is not entirely uncommon in the military as well. Dude, the military and prison seem to have a lot in common.

26. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,695 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    26   7:37pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   leoj707 says Conservatives prefer BMW (socialist pinko-euro-commie brand) and Liberals prefer Jeep (all American brand). Who would have guessed. Actually that doesn't surprise me. If by liberal, they mean left-leaning people like hippies, then yeah, hippies love jeeps. And if by conservative, they mean the godless fiscal conservatives that are only interested in money, then yes, they love BMWs. I think silver BMWs are the most popular car in Boca Raton. Of course, I doubt there are many toothless, Bible thumping, redneck hunters who drive BMWs.

27. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

    27   8:39pm Wed 20 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Dan8267 says Actually that doesn't surprise me. If by liberal, they mean left-leaning people like hippies, then yeah, hippies love jeeps Not in California! hippies dont have a job and dont own a car. But plenty of Volvo and BWMs with Obama sticks all over it. Jeeps and Trucks are more conservative than you think in places like California.. especially in the central valley! what would Al Gore say! what about all those hybrids.... http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2012/03/29/030611-democrat-vs-republican-whoas-buying-what-car-answers-found-strategic.html Democrat vs. Republican: Democrats ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Republicans 1. Honda Civic Hybrid*,,,,,,,1. Ford Mustang Convertible* 2. Volvo C30,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2. Audi A8* 3. Nissan Leaf* .............3. Mercedes GL 4. Acura TSX Wagon*............4. Ford Expedition 5. Ford Fiesta Sedan...........5. Ford F-150*

28. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    28   9:54am Thu 21 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Dan8267 says leoj707 says Anyway, more to the topic, people often do not realize that men-on-men rape is not entirely uncommon in the military as well. Dude, the military and prison seem to have a lot in common. Yes, and we all know the results of the military running a prison. That said, the Red Cross does not prohibit blood donations from people who are in the military, but they do prohibit donations if someone has been in prison for more than 72 hours over the past 12 months. I guess they figure after 72 hours there is a pretty good chance that someone has participated in some sort of unprotected forced sex.

29. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    29   10:07am Thu 21 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   everything says Contrary to what you say, women love tales of abuse, they wallow in it. Yes, and this is why all those romance novels feature cover art with women in over-sized glasses with a black eye peaking out around the edges, or a woman taking a tumble down a flight of stairs with a man up top, hands on hips, laughing. everything says This man needs a woman like a fish needs a bicycle. Glad to hear everything is working out great for you!

30. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 763 threads 7,695 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    30   10:09am Thu 21 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   leoj707 says Yes, and we all know the results of the military running a prison.