WatchI wonder why the Republicans are so set on voter ID laws. If it were not for the fact that they KNOW they'll get trounced in minority votes they wouldn't be for it.
To prove they weren't targeting the minorities, why don't they also write legislation that would provide free photo ids? Don't they believe in full participation in our electoral system?
Why did they put a picture of Asian kids on their Latino outreach page?
Gotta love the GOP!
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Nice excuse also...
"RNC spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski says: 'An outside vendor developed the site and it has been corrected.'"
Yes, because when using an outside vendor there is never an approval process.
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Freaking stinkin racist republicans, make me sick. If only everyone was a democrat, what a wonderful world this would be
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Not saying that, but they've cornered the racist vote on the right. Too bad for them they hitched themselves to that wagon, while demographics are favoring the more inclusive party.
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CL says
So you say. What happens when you see a mexican republican? Do you chide them for 'voting against their own best interest'?
Get the fuck over your leftist self. No matter how much energy you spend trying to prove yourself better then everyone else, you won't be able to convinve yourself, simply because its not true
My favorite code speak all the uber cool lefties use is "we want to live in a good neighborhood with good schools" translated into keep those dirt poor savages way the hell away from me! As if some asshole out there thinks "hey I want to live in a crime riddled neighborhood with shitty schools"
People are people. If you'd stop discriminating against them because of the colour of their skin for a minute, you could go out into the world and interact with them, you'd soon realize that no race has a monopoly on being ignorant
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More MENTALLY ill Northern Californian people! You need to move to Europe which is a PRIME example of rampant liberalism on parade!
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When you look at the procedures and practice of a citizen of casting their vote.. there are many weakness and poor governance over these processes. Frankly the process needs improvements. Anyone who is not legitimate citizen can cast a vote.
What exactly is preventing 5,000 chinese citizens ( non-US citizens ) from voting in place like Cupertino.
did anyone do background checks... what are your checks and verification ? heck maybe even places like Russia have better verification over votes...
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This may come a shock to you but Latin Americans also include mix of indians, africans, europeans and Asians. Peru's former president was Japanese! At least republicans understand this.. were the libs on this. Do they understand many Asians migrated to South American back in the 1800s.
In the 2000 US Census, 119,829 Hispanic or Latino Americans identified as being of Asian race alone.[2] In 2006 the Census Bureau's American Community Survey estimated them at 154,694,[3] while its Population Estimates, which are official, put them at 277,704.[4] In the 2010 Census there were 598,146 Asian "Hispanic or Latinos", including those who are multiracial in origin.
Like black and white U.S. Hispanics, Asian U.S. Hispanics are sometimes overlooked in the U.S. mass media and in general American social perceptions, where being "Hispanic" is often incorrectly given a racial value, usually mixed-race, such as half-caste or mulatto. The same situation happens in the U.S. Hispanic and the Latin American media through their telenovelas and in the general U.S. Hispanic and Latin American social perceptions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Peruvian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Peruvian
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@Errc. Demographics don't lie. Democrats don't do as well with white voters as they do with minority voters. The GOP has the advantage there because there are many more white voters than minorities.
But, since every non-white demographic trends largely democrat, you'd have to ask yourself why, objectively? And if there is a percentage of white voter that is uncomfortable losing their majority status, latent or blatant racism manifests itself. The Republican party knows that it recruited the racist vote. Do you?
Do you concede that the GOP needs to maintain their white majority vote?
@Thomas.Wong. Great points. However, it's clearly not the intent of the GOP to have Asian-Hispanics on their Latino outreach page. The stock photo was marked "Asian", not Japanese-Peruvian.
But, regarding your other point, if the GOP were interested in winning fairly, why not issue free voter ID cards? Why try to exclude minorities wholesale?
How many cases of voter fraud have there been in Cupertino?
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YEP! Ditto !
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Clear intent ? Black, white, asian... they can all be Latins !
And your point is Repubicans are racist.. very foolish! ... clearly not even Liberals have any understanding of the Latino culture.
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But, since every non-white demographic trends largely democrat, you'd have to ask yourself why, objectively
Because the left tells them that if they don't vote dem, the repukes will take away all their goodies?
Do you honestly believe that the right is the party of the racists and the dems are the solution to this "problem"?
As someone that could care less what colour peoples skin is, I look to politics for solutions to political economy problems, and I sure as hell don't see anything warranting a vote for a dem any moreso then a repulse. Be damned if I'm going to bother waiting in line to vote for the lesser of two evils
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Yet, liberals retain a huge majority in all minority voting patterns. Why?
I'd posit that the GOP is stuck between coddling their racist, white base and courting minority voters. Why not pander?
Because it would outrage the racists.
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Supply proof of that theory, Ruki.
The only minority that trended GOP were Arabs, and that was before post 9/11 racial profiling. I'd wager they feel betrayed now, but I have no demographics on that. Anyone?
Asians, Hispanics, Jews, and Blacks all are overwhelmingly trending Democratic. Why do they feel ostracized by the GOP then?
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There is a good chunk of Californians who fall into that category. Lots of Latino and Asians.
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Go to any Vietnamese or Filipino's community in CA... during Memorial or Veterans Day. Or go to a Cuban community in So Florida.. and plenty more locally in the central valley.
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So what of the minorities that vote gop? What's wrong with those people? Why are they so stupid to vote for the party of racists?
I always hear the left crowing about the majority. Who brainwashed the left into thinking that mob rule is the american way?
The paulites that crow about how we live in a Republic get it. No minority ever stands a chance at equitable representation, under mob rule. That's the entire purpose of a Republic, no? To empower the minority
Maybe I just have this odd way of looking at it, having grown up as a dirt poor minority, I dunno
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Well yes , gosh you have been brain washed.. that is the thinking that has invaded California with the like of Nancy Pelosi from the East Coast..
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Thomas, the young Cubans are trending toward the dems. They aren't influenced by the anti-Castro sentiment of their elders.
Errc, the question is not about the minority of minorities that vote for the GOP. This is about the FACT that no minority group trends republican. No majority of a minority group vote republican.
Let me ask you then? Why? I'd bet most republicans would say the minorities want handouts (like was said above).
With a belief like that, GOP leadership really wonders why they make no headway? And again, it shows how strong the racists are in the party.
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You need to leave Emeryville for the day...and drive down to South San Jose.. visit some Little Saigon..talk to 3-4th generation Californians...
I cant speak for the kids today.. they have been brainwashed.. soon after they start a job and family, begin earn income, grow business and career, things will change for them...
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Why?
Isn't it obvious? Like you said, its because the GOP are racists, and the dems are the party here to save the minorities from the evils of the GOP.
Does that mean that the minorities that vote GOP, are stupid? I see the question is an uncomfortable one, so feel free to keep avoiding it
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no! they say, dems want to create a european entitlement societies..
black, white, asian or latino... its a trade for votes.. vote for me and i will give you handouts from the rich! forget about 'real opportunities' you create and own. It plays well in SF and Oakland.. but what has it achieved over the decades. why is it down south in Santa Clara County, everyone pulls themself by the bootstrap!
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Errc,
You're the one who hasn't answered. The GOP leadership knows it has a problem with minorities, so I'm not putting this out there on my own accord.
Thomas...isn't that another way of saying that republicans think that minorities vote overwhelmingly Democratic because of the entitlements? Handouts?
The GOP is losing in every minority demographic. Why? Are they stupid, or greedy?
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I guess its because the GOP are too stupid to single out sects of the population by skin colour, and promise to level the playing field by giving them whatever it is that the left has noticed they are lacking?
Noone ever brainwashed me that equality comes from inequities
All I've ever asked as to be treated equally, regardless of skin colour
I don't assume that because someone isn't white that they need more help
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Everyone loves a handout! go to a mall, see a shiny new car and all you need to do is sign your name and address...
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maybe in 2008... did you check 2004, 2012 may not be 2008 over again, but a more sober voter this time... these are not the "overwhelmingly results" . It is the economy this time, as it was back in 2008.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
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Oh come on guys, give the republicans a break, it's just so hard to tell those people apart.. I mean, when someone commits a crime in china, or south America, whatever, how do they find them? They all look alike...
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But all kidding aside, back to the original topic of the post:
"Republican Admits In Closed Meeting Voter ID Laws Intended To Give Pennsylvania To Mitt Romney"
http://egbertowillies.com/2012/06/26/republican-admits-in-closed-meeting-voter-id-laws-intended-to-give-pennsylvania-to-mitt-romney-video/
Gosh, that couldn't be it after all, could it, jeez,
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Ruki says
So your American heritage is what Ruki? You have no history in your family of ever being a minority based on religion, nationality, or race? Your family never had to fight for any right, privilege, or to be seen as an equal in this country? Your family doesn't have an immigrant history?
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Actually asians from different regions look and sound different...overall heigh, skin color, language, eye and face shape...not to mention the clothes they wear..
South Americans... Some are white european, black african, asian, blondes, redhead, black, brown, etc etc etc... very different.
PS... dont be shocked if you ever go to Hawaii and see a Blonde mix Swedish, Japanese and Caucasian ....its after all Obama country!
LIBERALS do disappoint me! such REAL RACISTS THEY ARE ...
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Voter ID laws are becoming popular because there was proven voter fraud and something should be done about it.
In Mexico you must have a valid voter ID card to vote.
The Democrat party is the party of government programs and is popular with the takers, non productive, non taxpayers.
The Republican party is the party of letting people keep their money and is therefore popular with productive taxpayers.
Some minorities of course are not going to be liberals. The Asian-Americans in California are not particularly liberal.
The problem in the USA is the liberal guilt and affirmative action was previously directed all at black Americans.
Now that there are several other racial groups who do not have any guilt over slavery, e.g. Mexicans, Asians, etc. the situation is becoming more complex.
The average Korean-American doesn't feel particulary sorry for blacks in poverty and would be annoyed to see his daughter suffer discrimination (e.g. admission to UC Berkeley).
Simply put, no one gives a shit any more. The liberal dimwits are trying to make everything a racial issue, that whitey is evil and oppresses everyone. What a crock of shit.
Here's an idea: I get to keep what is mine, and you keep yours. If you have no 1. brains 2. balls 3. desire, you have nothing that's your tough shit.
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Pretty much every founder of this country as did our forefathers! ..
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As any auditor or best practice expert would say...
"an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"
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How do you know it wasn't a Peruvian kid?
You freaking racist...
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Founding fathers have to present ID cards at voting time?
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The all-white GOP is getting whiter. Ethnic minorities are growing.
If I were a Republican, I would be sounding the alarm. In any case, these last anti-immigrant laws, like the Arab bashing earlier in the 00s, will only drag them down further.
Bush the elder got 40% or more of the Latino vote. McCain was in the 30s. Some polls have Romney as low as 14%.
Minority voter participation has doubled in the last 20 years, and vote Democratic.
The GOP is being hoisted on its own racist petard.
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I'm just lost for words Emmet...
When the Wyans brothers spoof white people as Cucumber sandwich eating clueless, air head Liberals. In fact most all blacks that spoof whites in their routines educated articulated liberals are the brunt of their jokes. Why is that? The only people that give Scooter. Junior and Buba shit are white liberal apologists.
According to Richard, Eddie, Martin, Chris and countless others, the GOP couldn't possibly get any whiter than the White Liberals. Well O.K. Obama but that's it.
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Do you mean members of the Democratic party itself? Or their supporters?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/
Either way you slice it, you appear incorrect.
As far as being "stereotypically white" or the degree of "whiteness" white members of the parties have, that's a pretty subjective call. I find it is easier to make fun of yourself, or your friends, than your opponents. It's a possible explanation for the comedy routines. Comics tend to know their audience.
It's hard to make fun of people you don't know.
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Voter ID laws are more legal than deploying sniper teams with automatic weapons at polling stations to take out melanin-enhanced voters which the RNC would prefer but which would attract bad press at a lot of media outlets that aren't Fox News.
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What does it say about those who grew up 3rd 4th generation Californian.. The Republican whose name are Sanchez, Rodriguez, Seto, Lim, Wong etc etc.
None of these people consider themself as some minority, nor identify themeless as liberal lackeys.
You think some Obamatron Troll is going to change what these people have been for decades.
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retarded to the end...
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thomas.wong1986 says
What does it say? You tell me?
The voting trends are apparent. Unless you have some proof that later generations are trending Republican, this is just speculating.
Top Leadership in the GOP is very concerned, and have been for years. They know they've embraced racist white Americans in the past and are paying the price for it now.
There is one thing that these guys truly believe in, and it's voting trends and demographics. Why have they been even attempting outreach to minority communities, if not for this fact?
I'm not saying anything that they don't already know. They've fucked themselves.
As the GOP grows more reliant on racist white voters, they are more and more likely to lose the general election.
That is why they want to drive down minority participation. It's their only out of the rock and hard place conundrum they find themselves in.
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Rubish! where was this before the rise of the Obama election and his liberal trolls... nowhere!
You have a bunch of stupid lefty idiots who cant get past that are many "minorities" who dont buy into the Democrats agenda.
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drive down to the South Bay.. no one buys into that crap... You need to get out of the left wing Oakland-Berkeley mentality.. the world is much different down here as its different in many other parts of the state and nation.