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10 Things I've Learned from Patnet

By freak80   Follow   Wed, 27 Jun 2012, 10:24am   3,255 views   30 comments
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1. Atheists and agnostics don't like each other. Before, I always thought they were on the same "team."

2. Far-right propaganda is very effective.

3. There's just as much willful ignorance on the Far Left as there is on the Far Right.

4. Facts don't matter. People believe what they WANT to believe in spite of the facts.

5. It's possible for arguments over future house prices to become personal. Which is pointless, since no one knows the future.

6. Some trolls are professionals that like arguments for their own sake.

7. Race-war threads are the most popular.

8. Obama's skin pigmentation really does get to some people.

9. Some people really do think that they can get rich by having a mortgage.

10. I'm in the wrong business. I should have gone into banking and money lending. Engineering? Productive activity? That's for the Chinese to do.

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1. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,648 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   1   11:05am Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike (1)   There isn't any legitimate political movement in this country that could be considered far left. The ones that come to mind are single issue and totally impotent like PETA and Greenpeace. There are certainly individuals that qualify, but they are considered toxic by almost all Democrats so they aren't involved with the political process. In contrast, the far right is becoming mainstream with some truly insane and destructive ideas getting traction. The Ryan act, a bill that would literally remove federal taxation from rich people, is the one that comes to mind. Another is the Supreme Court decision giving corporations unlimited power to corrupt the system with money. It is already in effect and tearing holes in our democratic process.

2. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

   2   10:59am Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   I'd consider most of Dan8267's stuff to be Far Left. Then again, maybe it's just trolling and not genuine. Yes, I think you are right that the Far Left doesn't get much traction in the US. It has more of a presence in Europe. Like you say, it's the Far Right that's getting traction in the US. And that does worry me.

3. FortWayne Follow Befriend (13) 106 threads 3,863 comments

   3   10:34am Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Realtors, politicians, unions, and bankers are the biggest kinds of self serving liars in the world. The more gullible you are, the more above mentioned groups will screw you. There are still people who believe what politicians say, as long as it fits what they want to hear. Investing can be risk free while slow and boring. Big money is in big gambles. CA is a state with no private sector future. "Affordable Care Act" (commonly known as Obamacare) is anything but affordable.

4. errc Follow Befriend (7) 30 threads 1,267 comments 31 male Premium

   4   11:47am Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   I learned so much from troy and patrick about georgism, land values (and taxing them, and economic rent. I'm fairly well educated, and up in the 1% of IQs, pretty well read, yet had never even heard of anything related to the machinations of classical economics. Id always had questions about how things work, and many were answered by learning about these things. Had plenty of discussion before about 'regulatory capture', but now it takes on a whole new meaning. I always pondered on where the price of marijuana came from, and why something I could produce for 1/100th of the USD cost we are forced to pay for it, had to be so expensive. Now it makes much more sense. Right or wrong, I apply the same reasonings for all economic cost structures, and how different people acquire FRNs and the governments role in these things. The people that make the rules and have the pearly whites and the silly looking suits and ties on warm days, don't have to do productive work when they can use regulatory capture to secure streams of economic rents. While I always thought the system was quite perverse and wholly unjust, this new information puts some transparency to it, and now I'm even more disgusted I saved myself some money when I bought my house, and enjoy helping others learn to do the same.

5. Vicente Follow Befriend (8) 209 threads 4,509 comments Davis, CA

   5   3:57pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   marcus says Here's a European ( read: commie homo) view of our right/left skew: Good read. The Fox News crowd tosses around words like Socialist and Commie without any clue what they mean. On the one hand, they like global comparisons to make us feel guilty about wages. YOU should be GRATEFUL you haven't gotten a real wage increase in 30 years, at least you aren't living off pennies like people in Malaysia or wherever! On the other hand, they don't like comparing our politics or politicians to anyplace else if it might cast the GOP as a bunch of right-wing extremists.

6. KILLERJANE Follow Befriend (3) 12 threads 600 comments

   6   10:36am Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Ha. I think you're on to something. I use my blinders as much as possible these days. All the real estate markets are local. Some have hit bottom, some not. Bay area people should rent. And others should really save and buy with cash. Banks benefit if you let them. Don't get in bed with them. Good sum up to you.

7. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 171 threads 5,210 comments

   7   10:48am Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   I would take issue with number one. Because I think most atheists are not of the extremist variety who proselytize against religion and refer to agnostics as pussies who are just afraid of not being pc. It just so happens that we have one such atheist here, who is particularly (shall we say) obsessed. Also number three. What is the far left ? Is there a far left in this country. Many of the people on this site who get hysterical about socialism, would label as socialist commentators here that are to the right of half the republicans in congress 35 years ago. And I am not exaggerating. These people are totally owned by 21st century right wing propaganda. If we had a left wing in this country, in the health care debate, we would have at least heard for one tiny minute some serious arguments for single payer. Do you remember what happened ? Please some examples of what you have heard on Patnet from the far left. You don't have to find the post. Just give a a brief summary as best you can recall.

8. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,648 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   8   6:34am Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Wow, I'm convinced!

9. HEY YOU Follow Befriend (4) 352 threads 965 comments

   9   1:49pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   wthrfrk80, The one thing I've learned is that no one here knows what is going to happen in the housing market including myself. LOL

10. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (17) 785 threads 7,962 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    10   3:52pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says 1. Atheists and agnostics don't like each other. Before, I always thought they were on the same "team." Like people who believe the world in round versus those who aren't sure whether it's round or flat and want to stay open minded.

11. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 249 threads 2,915 comments

    11   5:30pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   HEY YOU says The one thing I've learned is that no one here knows what is going to happen in the housing market including myself. LOL But, we have so much fun speculating, don't we????

12. AF fan Follow Befriend (1) 1 threads 17 comments San Francisco, CA

    12   8:12pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   wthrfrk80 - you nailed it!!

13. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,648 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    13   10:51am Mon 2 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Politics is everything. How can you look at a Supreme Court decision and assert otherwise?

14. tatupu70 Follow Befriend (3) 15 threads 5,718 comments

    14   10:58am Mon 2 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   iwog says Politics is everything. How can you look at a Supreme Court decision and assert otherwise? One side belives coporations are people, one side doesn't. One side wants campaign finance reform, one side doesn't. I could go on, but why bother. The two sides are NOT the same. Mick--Do you disagree?

15. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    15   11:12am Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says In contrast, the far right is becoming mainstream with some truly insane and destructive ideas getting traction. The Ryan act, a bill that would literally remove federal taxation from rich people, is the one that comes to mind. Another is the Supreme Court decision giving corporations unlimited power to corrupt the system with money. Very true. It seems we're becoming Mexico. I'll have to sneak across the border into Canada and learn to pick wheat by hand.

16. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 249 threads 2,915 comments

    16   11:41am Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   wthrfrk80 says Very true. It seems we're becoming Mexico. Don't say that...... I don't speak spanish!!

17. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    17   11:46am Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says Don't say that...... I don't speak spanish!! You will soon. So will I.

18. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    18   2:14pm Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   errc says While I always thought the system was quite perverse and wholly unjust, this new information puts some transparency to it, and now I'm even more disgusted Amen. Ever read Ecclesiastes? If that's not the Word of God (tm), I don't know what is.

19. TMAC54 Follow Befriend (9) 70 threads 930 comments San Leandro, CA

    19   10:46am Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   FortWayne says Investing can be risk free while slow and boring. Big money is in big gambles. How much in - How much back - What's the risk ? "Affordable Care Act" (commonly known as Obamacare) is anything but affordable. You would think they might get a clue after realizing all the effort to change the name away from "SOCIALIZED MEDICINE". WHY establish another future failure agency like ferdie & frannie, SEC, TSA, Social Security, Labor Board, etc etc etc. THEY DON"T HAVE TO CARE ABOUT YOU TO GET A PAYCHECK !!! Have you been to a government restaurant lately ?

20. CL Follow Befriend (12) 141 threads 1,367 comments Emeryville, CA

    20   3:23pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says 3. There's just as much willful ignorance on the Far Left as there is on the Far Right. What are the far left denying that is provably true? Is it just me, or is the objectivity here almost exclusively on the left? I think #11 would be that when you doubt the facts, don't do your own research. Make the poster provide support ad nauseum!