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why the phoenix market is imrpoving... simple pics maybe the trolls can get


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  1. PockyClipsNow


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    1   5:26pm Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    looks like it reverted to the mean to me.
    Just over 100 per sq foot should be where it stays.

    BUT with ever lower int rates - prices could go sky high again with 1.5% mortgage rates (not teaser loans either....mayne with a 5/1 arm or other fixed). We will see under 2% mortgage rates soon, very soon IMO.

    The fed reserve has figured out they can do ANYTHING and get away with it. So watch for even crazier antics.

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    2   5:39pm Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    PockyClipsNow says

    Just over 100 per sq foot should be where it stays.

    Anything above 100 is just stupid!

  3. PockyClipsNow


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    3   6:48pm Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    i sold mine in 06 for $400 per sq ft.

    still its worth about 250-300 even now (a bargain!) its a crappy 3/2 30 years old. anyway.....its got 'good schools'(racist codeword).

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    4   7:24pm Wed 27 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    PockyClipsNow says

    its got 'good schools'(racist codeword).

    Has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with income levels. If the majority of kids are poor, the schools are labeled bad.

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    5   3:15pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Old support becomes new resistance.

  6. RentingForHalfTheCost


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    If you could see the supports around the upward movement, you would see they are made of particle board and the legs are supported by mud. The first hint of rain will be interesting to say the least. When it happens, then all the cheerleaders will busy themselves with something else IMHO. Maybe watch more TV.

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    7   3:33pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected  

    All indicators point to Cannibal Anarchy.

    If Roberto has internet when CA comes to Phoenix, his last transmissions will likely be blow by blows of free fire fights in the streets and his estimates of when market indicators will return to normal.

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    8   3:34pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    So a place on the surface of he sun invaded by illegal aliens a million miles from nowhere is $100K.
    What's the big deal here?
    You won't get any capital appreciation from it. And, if you decided to LIVE in it, you have to STAY in it to reverse-mortgage the dump.
    Why bother?
    I hear they have nice deals in Mexicali too.

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    9   3:45pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    RentingForHalfTheCost says

    If you could see the supports around the upward movement, you would see they are made of particle board and the legs are supported by mud. The first hint of rain will be interesting to say the least. When it happens, then all the cheerleaders will busy themselves with something else IMHO. Maybe watch more TV.

    Thank you for that in depth and fact filled analysis. I hope you didn't put your self out too much with the research, and thinking time grappling with all of those meaningful numbers to arrive at that profound conclusion. clambo says

    So a place on the surface of he sun invaded by illegal aliens a million miles from nowhere is $100K.
    What's the big deal here?
    You won't get any capital appreciation from it. And, if you decided to LIVE in it, you have to STAY in it to reverse-mortgage the dump.
    Why bother?
    I hear they have nice deals in Mexicali too.

    price versus rent is what matters. Kind of funny for anyone from cali to mention illegal immigration as a bad thing, but ok...

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    10   3:47pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    what happens to the price of housing when interest rates go up in 10-20 yrs?

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    11   3:49pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Katy Perry says

    what happens to the price of housing when interest rates go up in 10-20 yrs?

    I don't care! the only thing that matters to me is RENT! (and I don't mean the musical, though I like it too!)

  12. RentingForHalfTheCost


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    robertoaribas says

    Thank you for that in depth and fact filled analysis. I hope you didn't put your self out too much with the research, and thinking time grappling with all of those meaningful numbers to arrive at that profound conclusion.

    Your more than welcome. Don't say you haven't been warned when you are forced to chew your own arm off for food because of your cash flow problem. Houses are for shelter. They do a great job in keeping out the elements and rodents. Venture outside that purpose and anything can happen.

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    13   3:58pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    RentingForHalfTheCost says

    Don't say you haven't been warned when you are forced to chew your own arm off for food because of your cash flow problem.

    I certainly appreciate the advice, but actually I am a vegan. I eat fruits, vegetables, beans and whole grains only... No meat, no dairy, no eggs, no sugar, flour, or processed food of any sort! I have to keep my mind clear, and live a long long time to enjoy all of my money!

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    14   3:58pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    An average is not the correct way to look at the data. The average is not a good indicator of the whole market. You want to use the median price.
    http://www.deptofnumbers.com/asking-prices/arizona/phoenix/

    The average price chart at the start of this thread shows a bottom in March '09 (which clearly didn't occur) and then a 2nd bottom in Sept of last year.

    When you look at the median data you see the current bottom starts in Jan '11 and coincides with the number of available homes decreasing on the chart below it. (which makes sense given supply and demand)

    That's my 2 cents on that subject.

    One other thought. When interest rates eventually increase, won't that mean we'll have yet another housing bottom because most people buy a house based on the monthly payment and not the amount?

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    15   4:00pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    patjohn97123 says

    An average is not the correct way to look at the data. The average is not a good indicator of the whole market.

    that isn't a graph of average price. it is average price per square foot. Also, I use median, I use my own data on the zips i invest in, I use median price of all homes listed in zips I am interested in to see changes in asking prices, amounts of supply, on and on.

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    patjohn97123 says

    One other thought. When interest rates eventually increase, won't that mean we'll have yet another housing bottom because most people buy a house based on the monthly payment and not the amount?

    Historically, that's not what has happened.

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    robertoaribas says

    RentingForHalfTheCost says

    Don't say you haven't been warned when you are forced to chew your own arm off for food because of your cash flow problem.

    I certainly appreciate the advice, but actually I am a vegan. I eat fruits, vegetables, beans and whole grains only... No meat, no dairy, no eggs, no sugar, flour, or processed food of any sort! I have to keep my mind clear, and live a long long time to enjoy all of my money!

    You'll have to live long to get to the end of the 30 year mortgages you own. ;)

    I eat what I feel like, and pay only in cash. I'd rather live debt free and die before I become a burden.

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    18   4:39pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    RentingForHalfTheCost,

    There are many who don't understand: debt free.

  19. robertoaribas


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    19   4:45pm Thu 28 Jun 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    HEY YOU says

    There are many who don't understand: debt free.

    Yes. Just like there are many who don't understand borrowing money at 4.5%, and buying properties that pay 12% rent...

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