WatchWhoops.......so much for Shrek's predictive ability. I'm beginning to like Roberts. First he throws out the Arizona law, now he upholds health care reform.
I'm actually pretty amazed by this decision. I hope it represents a real evolution in the thinking of John Roberts and not just a couple of instances of temporary sanity.
Liberal chief justice John Roberts........I like the sound of that!
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Some people believe anything. Honestly come to me I've got a health plan you will just adore. This plan will even scratch your balls if you want them scratched. Its a little costly. Honest to God I love you people. You make a great sale.
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FortWayne says
Give me a break. We're finished because we're about to implement a Republican health care reform bill adopted by the Democrats??
Turn off the radio.
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iwog says
Wise advice. Those idiots care about money and money alone. The more they get their idiot listeners riled up, the more money they make.
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FortWayne says
This "it's cheaper to not have insurance" meme is getting a lot of traction. It doesn't consider two important facts:
Fact the first: if you elect to simply pay the fine, then you don't have insurance. You're still making a bet: that you'll never need an ambulance.
If you have a real emergency, you are not covered. You are on the hook for the bill. You will get emergency care --but it could force you into bankruptcy. If you aren't making enough for that to matter, then you are elligible for subsidies to pay for insurance. It's not as clear-cut a decision as some are making it sound.
Fact the second: People are not perfectly rational. Americans in particular tend to respect laws, don't like paying money to the government, and don't like being uninsured.
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iwog says
You mean defund NPR?
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Whats going to be funny as hell is when all you people get to work on Monday lol. Hey I ain't lyin'
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msilenus says
It's a tax essentially everybody, and everyone has to pay it.
As it stands now by yesterdays ruling.
Obamacare is NOT Mandatory!
I'll repeat OBAMACARE aka "Affordable Health care" scam that was presented to congress in a fraudulent manner. is NOT Mandatory.
How ever if you are insured you get a tax break, and don't have to pay the tax.
So how dare you to split hairs now and chop and dissect it up in fifteen different ways to suit your liberal causes. It's as vague as the Bible and will forever be distorted and interpreted 20 different ways.
But make no mistake "The Affordable Healthcare Act" is a TAX that was levied on the unsuspecting American people. To give FREE healthcare to the BUMS. Everyone else will pay out the ass, for health care. If you do, then you get a tax break.
See how this works?
The exchange will be just a phone call away, I can make the call on the way to the hospital and be covered before I get there, with a swollen appendix.
It's well with my right as a TAX paying citizen. This is OUR America too!
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Jesus.
*click*
Edit to add: I hope never to hate anything as much as you hate taxes.
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You can't even afford bullets for your gun because of Obamacare!
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msilenus says
It IS cheaper. All you need is Robitussin. Let that 'tussin get down to the bone, boy.
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Yeah right. Everyone breaks the law when opportunity to get away arises. Humans are still humans, ruled by self interest.
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I leave ya'll for three days - and you can't get along?
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No one gets sick. Really I guess people don't know much about health lol. They take health in school whatever the fuck that does. 100 bed hospitals. No big deal check how many beds in any given city thats how the figure cost. For the most part. Everyones healthy thats the point. Not everyone gets in a 30 car pileup. But hey if it makes you feel better everyone pays. lol. No priorities in many peoples lives that I can see. All I see is a lot people with "VICTORY" painted like a bullseye on their tokus.
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I watched Fox last night (which I haven't done in years), just out of curiosity." So I understand where CS is coming from.
"IT's A TAX
IT's A TAX
IT's A TAX
IT's A TAX"
"Scotus said so. It's a tax."
"OBAMA SAID IT ISN'T A TAX
OBAMA SAID IT ISN'T A TAX
OBAMA SAID IT ISN'T A TAX
OBAMA SAID IT ISN'T A TAX"
"OBAMA LIED
OBAMA LIED
OBAMA LIED
OBAMA LIED"
It's really funny how stupid they think (maybe correctly) their audience is. Roberts says, the way we can uphold the constitutionality of Obama Care is by framing the mandate as a tax.
Fox News:
"WiPPEEEE
IT'A A TAX - IT's A TAX - IT's A TAX - IT's A TAX"
CaptainShuddup says
Actually it's a vast improvement. No lifetime cap, for people with freaky conditions that run in to the millions. No pre-existing conditions or otherwise terminating peoples insurance because they are sick.
* But these improved benefits are paid for in part by mandating that everyone has to have insurance (yes this means more healthy young people paying for insurance - expect republicans to work hard on getting their votes)
*Also, the idea of covering pre-existing conditions doesn't really work without a mandate, because too many people would just wait until they were sick to get insurance. Doctors would probably help: " I'm sorry to inform you that you have diabetes. Oh, you don't have insurance ? Okay then here's what I want you to do, I want you to get insurance and come back here in a month and we'll start working out a plan of treatment."
Don't you hate it when things are complicated and don't easily match up with what you want to believe ?
IT"S A TAX
OBAMA LIED !
- and yes this means you can expect republicans to try to get the votes of the errcs of the world who don't want to understand it - and selfishly feel they shouldn't have to pay for other peoples health care. "What the hell, it's their fault for being older or less healthy than I am. This is America - it's every man for himself!!"
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Make everybody eat 20 servings of fresh vegetables a day like I do, or pay an extra tax. ANY health insurance plan is discriminatory to whole food eating athletic vegans like me, who don't get sick as much as you cannibal carcass eaters!
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Bums get expensive healthcare now which starts in the emergency room, when they are in an extremely costly state that could have been avoided if they had access to care sooner.
This expensive innefficient care they get now is paid for by us all. Why do you think it costs $5000/ day to be in the hospital now if you're insured. It's partly because that's how they subsidize the health care that the poor get for free or close to free now.
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You've got that backwards.
With Obamacare the insurance companies are required to spend 80% of the money they collect on actual health care and give back any excess. Spending $100,000 to keep you alive one day longer means they're allowed to charge $125,000 in premiums and keep $25,000 on your behalf. You're a profit center to their bean counters and they want you alive.
Without Obamacare the insurance companies are allowed to spend as little as they can get away with (the best companies manage to spend only 60% of premiums on medical care). Less treatment means lower medical loss ratios and higher profits. You're red ink to their bean counters and they want you dead.
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robertoaribas says
Hey now, don't knock human carcass. You might need to eat it in the near future. Especially in a place like Phoenix.
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Eating other humans is the healthiest option. Apocalypsefuck/duck will probably live to be 120.
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As a board certified physician, I concur with robertoaribas. Don't forget to add fresh organic fruit to your diet, and remember rice and beans make a complete protein.
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"Organic" food is a scam. Just a way to charge twice as much for the same thing.
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Thank you... Common sense goes a long way. Amazing how much better your body feels and functions when you have a diet high in fruits/veggies.
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Homeboy says
Let's pick different pics:
More importantly however, is HEALTH to be judged by comparing faces? I think not. Plenty of people die young still looking good in the face.
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Vicente says
Har har! How long did it take you to find those pics? You took the absolute best pic of Gillian, and the absolute worst pic of Nigella, and Nigella STILL looks better. Yeah, her face is a bit oily and they used a flash, which reflected off her skin. Gosh, I'll never eat meat again - snicker.
You want more pictures, do you? O.K., here are some more:
You seriously can't tell which one looks healthier? I think you need some more protein in your diet.
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WTF have you people done to my thread??
Awesome rack by the way.
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I think organic is BS for the most part. However people like talking about food so do I. Oil based products should not be used in conjunction with food. That I do agree with. However commercial ventures "Farms and Farmers" Which is nothing more than a "loan based" operation. Will use oil based products in some cases. I have no respect for a farmer. Simply because its an ass backwards approach to being a real person.
Most people don't understand organic. Because there is no time in their life for anything but food on the shelf which is so sad. Since its is such a great part of an individuals life, food. Germs are important to food of course. Most will never get to experince the absolute fun of growing. They have time for a plant of course. Which is more misogyny. However no time for green vegetable. The only part you have in particpation of vegetable is storing and eating them which I consider mostly unnatural. Which mean you know mostly nothing of the earth. You have no time for it. Your time is given to someone else mostly if they own your labor. Life goes by quickly. Serving another. People can't get away from that. Thats a hard life.
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Homeboy says
Shes a smoker. You can from the extremities and the face not enough oxygen.
By the way your boss who if a sb owner will now be whipping your hiney for eternity.
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lol !
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Vicente says
The POINT, sir, is that you have no proof of your BELIEF that being a vegetarian makes you healthier than a person who eats meat.
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@iwog,
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yep
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More true than you know. lol. Sense would make you wonder why you would disregard the fact. That its a "conservative" Supreme courts. Ok did God thru justices just render and opinion in your favor?? I'm sure many would accept that. Or was the quick witted representative for the government to fast for them?? Neither. The guys that loan the cash that the government is 40 years past due on paying. Which probably includes Judge Roberts furniture lol. Want it that way. Its actually more debt. However the equation works out to more labor in the medical field. It's probably an avenue they want to pursue. So who you should really thank if you think this is all so swift. Is the privateers of the monetary system. Which for some politics is a safer place to be.
I see it as a way to garner more labor that works for a very long time for compartively little to what they get. This means more assets of course and anything of tax is sucked up into debt. They have actually lost labor in the fact you can walk into most any hospital and get treated for "free" without and renumeration labor wise. Some don't know that of course. Some do.
The wennie truck is funny of course. However thats more like what your going to have mobile units that are similar to Red cross for the business they go to including Corporate which can be labor expensive material wise to.
It's complicated of course they keep Hospitals and doctors at it by making medical equipment very expensive. Any business owner trying to get ahead can tell you business invoicing is out of the sky for the same thing an individual would use. So getting rich fast and getting out of pulling the cart isn't something thats encouraged. What your not exactly clear on is exactly how all this is plotted out. However the details of which you will learn over the course of time.
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Andy S says
Yeah but at least we have good teeth.
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GameOver - you are good. Very astute!
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GameOver says
So let me guess.........the Supreme Court is too liberal now?
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GameOver says
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
Someone who claims the Supreme Court is full of people with X ideology, then totally ignores nearly every decision that has come down in a decade with a 5-4 vote is pretty uninformed in my opinion.
When do they all get to share the corporate agenda? All those 9-0 decisions right?
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End the Bush era, vote Obama out!
(Full disclosure: this quote was plagiarized)
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GameOver says
So which corporate bosses wanted the justices to vote against Citizens United?
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GameOver says
Ahhh. I see. So is there someone pulling the strings and making these decisions? How do the justices know how their masters want them to vote? When to provide disinformation vs. voting the expected way?
(you're getting very close to needing a tinfoil hat)