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Codewords and Their Unspoken Meanings in American Politics


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In a comment today I pointed out that "limited constitutional government" is code-speak for something very different from what it sounds like:

Limited = no Social Security or Medicare

Constitutional = letting states enact racist laws

What other codewords are used, and what are their unspoken definitions?

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  1. Dan8267


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    48   7:54pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    bdrasin says

    Sounds like the plot of a porno.

  2. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich


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    49   7:55pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike  

    Actually, Veteran Combat Hair Stylist Mittycakes can truthfully report that Mormonism is a WHITE POWER faith. That should capture a lot of teabagger votes and some of the neoconfederate votes that may just stay at home during the primaries and general.

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    APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

    LOL! we are going to have start calling you APOCALYPSEFUCK is WAGNER

  4. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich


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    51   8:23pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Nope. Definitely an 'is Shostakovich'

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    APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

    Nope. Definitely an 'is Shostakovich', It's true. One of hte tenets of the faith is that non-whites are sub-human. Actually, Veteran Combat Hair Stylist Mittycakes can read that part from the Book of Fucking Morons at whistle stops and fire a few bursts from an assault rifle and foam at the mouth. Real wake up the base stuff for the GOP.

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    Honest Abe says

    But they get tenure, TENURE, hahaha. You can't fire me, I got TENURE, now get outta my face.

    Ohio did away with tenure a few years ago. The older teachers have it, younger ones do not.

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    zzyzzx says

    No Child Left Behind = Welfare for Teachers.

    Haha. If it were a contest, I say you win.

    (by the way - teachers generally hate NCLB )

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    55   3:08pm Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    thomas.wong1986 says

    It's much the same as Alexis de Tocqueville talked about in 'Democracy In America' -- that this American republic will collapse once Congress and obviously our president realizes they can bribe the public by using the public's treasury," Allen West

    Fair enough. But don't forget "corporate welfare." Like the bank bailouts. Both Bush and Obama did that, am I correct?

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    56   3:13pm Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)  

    thomas.wong1986 says

    Its all about maturity! what do the Liberals, offer! Not much!

    Give me a break. If Patnet conservatives are any indication, conservatives aren't much better. Heck most (not all) of the people I have on "ignore" just spout the same far-right talking points I can get from AM radio and Fox News.

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    57   5:51pm Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    Codeword for The Justice Department: the Department of Fraud, Coverups, and Injustice

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    58   6:21pm Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    Wow, what's with the "dislike" of almost every post?

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    59   8:30pm Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)  

    wthrfrk80 says

    Wow, what's with the "dislike" of almost every post?

    I noticed that too. Some child goes through and likes every right wingers post and dislikes all their "enemy's" posts. It wouldn't matter what I said. I could post something about how great mises.org is with a link to some article and it would get a dislike.

    The behavior speaks for itself.

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    60   10:54pm Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Maybe it's El Capitan.

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    No way, it's not CS or Bap. One of the other right wingers.

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    62   10:45am Sun 8 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    Right. Somehow you get from not knowing when a zygote or fetus becomes a person, and therefore believing in a woman's choice, but still wanting to minimize abortions, to "killing as many of our babies as possible."

    This kind of thinking/feeling is a perfect example of the flaw in humans that dooms us as a species.

    As for hating whites ? Very similar to the other. I guess not being a white supremacist, and being able to acknowledge the sometimes aggressive behavior of white euro men in the past and not being a scared little girl about what the world will be like when we are a minority, because we get that were all the same, and finally being tolerant of homosexuals, is to you equal to being a hater of whiteness.

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    63   12:09pm Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    Why is there obesity epidemic in red states? Cuz they would fry water if they could!

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    64   12:27pm Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    Marcus, you dumbsh*t, unless something is done to STOP the natural process, after fertilization takes place, a human will be born. "Stopping the process" AKA abortion, is stopping a life, irregardless of how its spun or sugar coated.

    Oh wait, stopping a life 30 seconds before birth is OK, but 30 seconds after birth is murder? Are you libs insane?

    You libs have created laws that offer more protection for animals, and animal babies than for humans, admit it.

    No wonder your caricature has a scowl, you libs are mean spirited, immoral people.

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    Honest Abe says

    Marcus, you dumbsh*t, unless something is done to STOP the natural process, after fertilization takes place, a human will be born. "

    What if I'm attracted to a woman, and she's willing to have my baby. Is it a immoral me to not make it happen as often as possible ? I'm pretty sure that I could have had about 30 children by now, not that I would have been able to provide for them, and many would probably be in miserable situations right now.

    But how was it not blocking life if I didn't make it happen, if I used a condom or wacked off instead ?

    Didn't that "block life ?"

    Didn't that "STOP the natural process ?"

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    66   1:08pm Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Honest Abe says

    Oh wait, stopping a life 30 seconds before birth is OK, but 30 seconds after birth is murder?

    This is exactly what us "libs" say, in Abe's oh so special little imaginary world.

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    67   1:11pm Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Obey the Tripods.

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    Btw, I am not in favor of, nor do I approve abortion as a form of birth control (as some may infer from my comment above). In fact I detest abortions and would like to see them minimized.

    But I do not know that an early abortion is murder and I believe that it is an individuals choice.

    There are many individual choices that we allow people to make in this relatively free country. Some choices may be immoral to some and not immoral to others. There are some choices even that most people consider immoral, that we do not have government laws against.

    I personally reserve judging those who choose to have an abortion. That's above my pay grade. The fact that some right winger believe they know, often due to religion, and in this particular case, I don't even judge them, which makes this issue somewhat unique.

    I do think they are somewhat arrogant to think that they know that a zygote is a human with rights that transcend the rights of the woman carrying it. But once they do feel that they know, I can't really blame them for fighting it.

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    Abortion is clearly an emotionally charged topic and righfully so. There are pros and cons to each position. For example, there is plenty of evidence that where abortion is illegal, orphanages, child abandonemt and level sof overall crime in society proliferate. At the same time, we can logically conclude that if the aborted fetus was allowed to continue its course that the creature would end up a living human being in an overwhelming amount of cases which makes abortion a de facto murder. The best thing that can be done is to not end up in this situation in the first place, such as use birth control - that will save the affected parties from having to make these very tough decisions.

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    Marcus, on your first question about a condom stopping the natural process - the answer is no, the natural process was not stopped. Thats because fertilization had not occurred.

    And the "no crime 30 seconds before and a criminal act 30 seconds after" scenario is codified in law. That makes it real, doesn't it? But you're right, early abortion is not considered murder (although it is still taking a human life).

    Under existing law, if I'm not mistaken, a women can terminate her zygote, fetus or baby any time up to partial birth. Once the baby is out of the birth canal, her "right" to terminate ends. At first you can terminate, abort, kill the baby...but now you can't.

    So a women has "freedom of choice". Her "rights" can transcend the rights and extinguish the life of another living being, even though it is her own offspring. Where's the caring, love and nurturing in that? To me that is a very simple example that demonstrates democrats are not the caring, loving, nurturing individuals they make themselves out to be.

    I read that more babies are aborted every week in America, than all who died in the 9-11 tragedy. Isn't that an ongoing American tragedy?

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    Honest Abe says

    And the "no crime 30 seconds before and a criminal act 30 seconds after" scenario is codified in law. That makes it real, doesn't it? But you're right, early abortion is not considered murder (although it is still taking a human life).

    Under existing law, if I'm not mistaken, a women can terminate her zygote, fetus or baby any time up to partial birth. Once the baby is out of the birth canal, her "right" to terminate ends. At first you can terminate, abort, kill the baby...but now you can't.

    You are mistaken. Laws vary by state, but abortion is generally available on demand only in the first trimester, somewhat restricted in the second, and available only under extreme circumstances in the third trimester. Late term (post-viability) abortions are not allowed in most states under normal circumstances. There's nowhere in the country where a woman can have an elective abortion 30 minutes prior to delivery, nor should there be.

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    72   9:56pm Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    I stand corrected, thank you. Abe

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    Honest Abe says

    I stand corrected, thank you. Abe

    Wow, in 15 years of arguing on the Internet that's never happened to me. I think I need to lie down now...

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    marcus says

    zzyzzx says

    No Child Left Behind = Welfare for Teachers.

    Haha. If it were a contest, I say you win.

    (by the way - teachers generally hate NCLB )

    Marcus could you explain this from your point of view as a teacher. What do you think of NCLB, good bad etc...?

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    thomas.wong1986 says

    There are plenty of non-whites who dont favor Democrats or the Liberal agenda. Its all about maturity! what do the Liberals, offer! Not much!

    Not a single minority Demographic supports the GOP. Not one. And they haven't really, for a long time.

    If you're being honest as a party loyalist, you should be asking why. And you should be concerned at the reasons you'll find. And you'd know that minorities aren't dumb, and they know where they are not welcome, and that's in the GOP.

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    CL says

    Not a single minority Demographic supports the GOP. Not one. And they haven't really, for a long time.

    You have no idea what in the hell you're talking about.
    Most of the Hispanics in this country are here to escape Leftists that have destroyed their country.

    And self sufficient blacks that aren't on the public dole or aren't employed by a branch of government, i.e. business owners, or aspiring business owners are majority Republican.

    It's not a coincidence that most poor people are Liberals only until they make good and break out on their own. By time they own property, get money in the bank, build up credit, and have some skin in the game, these are the people that elected Bush twice.

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    zzyzzx says

    No Child Left Behind = Welfare for Teachers.

    No Child Left Behind = Fuck'em!

    Good Schools or else!

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    CaptainShuddup says

    You have no idea what in the hell you're talking about.
    Most of the Hispanics in this country are here to escape Leftists that have destroyed their country.

    Do you have any, ya know, FACTS to back that up? I've read the polls and none support this theory you want to believe.

    In fact, South America has been electing a lot of leftist leaders nowadays, now that many have had free and fair elections and support the will of the indigenas.

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    FortWayne says

    Marcus could you explain this from your point of view as a teacher.

    There's a lot to it, but the biggest problem is testing. Giving tests and preparing students for tests takes a lot of time. "Teaching to the test" is what teachers generally hate.

    Imagine being a high school teacher working with kids that are behind in math. They're in say ninth grade Algebra (note: algebra can be taken as early as 7th if kids are ready).

    Imagine further that this 9th grade class is comprised primarily of kids that already took algebra in 8th and failed. They failed because somewhere along the line they got behind. So they need a lot of work with basic arithmetic, problem solving fractions and so on. As a teacher you want to come up with a plan for mixing in enough review.

    (note: many elementary school teachers hate MAth, and this is sometimes the reason these kids are behind. But also parents sometimes give their kids permission from an early age. "That's okay honey, I was terrible at math too.")

    So you want to work on bringing the kids up to grade level, while also covering basics of Algebra. But next week you have to give a quarterly assessment on linear equations. This test isn't as important as the state tests they take at the end of the year, it's a district test that's designed to keep us on pace for the State test. But it takes a day to give the test. I have to give it, even if my students aren't resady for it (because I've been working on things they should have learned before).

    So what do I do ? Do I forget about working on the most important basics, and try to get whichever students I can I can ready for this test? Or do I focus on what I think its best, but then waste a day giving the test, and make the kids feel bad because they aren't ready for it?

    I could continue, but the point is that even though there is more insistence on teachers being qualified, there is less trust in them doing what they want and need to do. Curriculum is very prescribed, and tests (even now) are increasing in importance.

    The result is actually leaving kids behind, rather than the other way around.

    Look up "teaching to the test" if you want to know more.

    Here's an example of the kind of thing you'll find.

    http://www.bestmastersineducation.com/teaching-to-tests/

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    CL says

    Do you have any, ya know, FACTS to back that up?

    Marco Rubio is a Cuban-American Florida Senator that was just elected with about 60% of the Latino vote.

    http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/04/12/are-hard-line-cuban-americans-strong-as-ever/old-guard-are-reliable-voters-and-organized

    The illegals vote Democrat, but not those with papers. That is why the Left is fighting Florida's right to purge the voters polls of dead and illegal voters so hard.

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    There's no way that one person can possibly educate 20 or 30 other people. Education requires individual attention.

    Without parental involvent in a child's education, the child won't get very far.

    Throwing lots of money, standards, and tests at the problem won't do a damn thing.

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    marcus says

    Look up "teaching to the test" if you want to know more.

    I remember being in that kind of environment as a jr. high student the year I lived in Texas. It was terrible.

    All systems are gamed. People who design easily-gamable systems belong in the lowest circle of hell. --Charlie Munger

    What do you think teachers will do if it's all about test-taking? They'll just teach the test.

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    Cubans are unique among hispanics and tend to often be republican.

    CaptainShuddup says

    That is why the Left is fighting Florida's right to purge the voters polls of dead and illegal voters so hard.

    This is a blatant lie. Nobody is trying to keep dead and illegals on the voting lists.

    Sources ?

    Do you vote ? Do you know how it works ? Do you have any idea how difficult it is for an illegal to get on the list of voters that is used at the polls. Do you have sources that prove how often this happens ?

    Oh there's a criminal named jose martinez, let's go ahead and delete all of them.

    Back in 2000, 12,000 eligible voters – a number twenty-two times larger than George W. Bush’s 537 vote triumph over Al Gore – were wrongly identified as convicted felons and purged from the voting rolls in Florida, according to the Brennan Center for Justice.

    The truth is more likely that you're the kind of guy that get's a kick out of seeing the GOP cheat. I have a name for that. It ends with bag.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/florida-gop-takes-voter-supression-to-a-brazen-new-extreme-20120530#ixzz20FlrllUz

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    Um Rollingstone can't even make decent article on the sad state of the music and entertainment industry(they helped destroy btw) Why on earth would I consider them as a valid source of political pontification?

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    Yes, facts are now political pontification.

    You're more than just well on your way.

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    You live down there. Has there been some bipartisan process put in place about being careful when taking illegals and felons off the list?

    How much collateral damage of taking good registered voters off the list is okay with you ?

    (note: I'm working under the assumption that you don't see yourself as a dirtbag)

    I think this is a pretty important question, when you consider the slim likelyhood that those illegals or felons would have even voted in the first place.

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    87   1:42pm Tue 10 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    I bet you buy in to the argument that black voters were disenfranchised because the police were at the voting polls to provide security.
    So they were to intimidated to go into vote. Though the obvious question would have been, what were they paranoid of?
    But if they weren't there and someone got shot(like happens on a nightly basis in South Florida in that neighborhood) there would have been Hell to pay.

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