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Jeff Daniels tells why America isn't the greatest country in the world anymore

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1. Honest Abe Follow Befriend (41) 91 threads 1,806 comments

   133   6:43am Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   sbourg, I am going to get your book recommendation, FDR = New Deal or Raw Deal, but not today. My spirits are too high and reading how FDR put the seeds of destruction in place to destroy America is way too depressing to read on such a beautiful day. It would wreck my zen. BTW, I couldn't help but notice no book recommendations from the radical leftists who populate this site. I've repeatedly asked for their recommendations with virtually the same result that you've gotten...nada. I'm going to go walk my four rescue weiner dogs, have a good day. Abe.

2. JG1 Follow Befriend 3 threads 243 comments Los Angeles, CA

   134   1:38pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Buster says wthrfrk80 says There are reasonable conservatives out there. You are not one of them. There are zero 'reasonable conservatives' left in the GOP. They have all been kicked to the curb years ago. Funny, some of my obama-loving (OK, just kidding, there are none of those left), some of my intending to vote obama friends are criticizing romney, saying he's just like obama anyway, not that conservative, why do I support him when he's not that conservative, etc. Perhaps because he is a reasonable conservative. You may not love him, you may not vote for him, but I think you'll be OK with his presidency.

3. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 248 threads 4,716 comments

   135   2:04pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   HRHMedia says Would you ever say "BUSH-LOVING" People Love'd them some Bush.

4. JG1 Follow Befriend 3 threads 243 comments Los Angeles, CA

   136   2:20pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   HRHMedia says Would you ever say "BUSH-LOVING" , i thought not. This is cloaked racism to say "obama-loving" it's like saying n-lover. More racists. Sure, why wouldn't I? And I've certainly heard Clinton, Gore, and Obama supporters use that term. So you are really grasping at straws to find racism where none exists and none is intended. When Obama was elected, I didn't vote for him, but I predicted he would win when my democrat friends were still saying he can't win because he's (half) black. And I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt, and he was been awful ever since. I would like to see Condi for VP with Mitt, so how does that add up in your apparently race-obsessed worldview?

5. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 248 threads 4,716 comments

   137   2:31pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Yeah, Lord knows the Man is always trying to keep Obama down. Chin up Obama, you'll catch a break, poor you. Thank God he's not Tiger Woods, or I'd catch crap for the "Chin" remark!

6. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 248 threads 4,716 comments

   138   2:42pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   HRHMedia says Filibusters MMMMMM Chocolate covered peanut Filibusters... agh ahh ah!

7. JG1 Follow Befriend 3 threads 243 comments Los Angeles, CA

   139   2:45pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   HRHMedia says obama-loving is code racism. i don''t care what you predicted. glad you gave a half-black guy the "benefit of the doubt??" seriously, your a racist .. You say Obama has been awful? how? , Make sure you use George Bush as the mile stone. Social Media Guru Since 1999 Only the race-obssessed would know that. And you're really stretching what isn't and is racism. And pulling the usual liberal trick, everything you don't like isn't just wrong or a different opinion, it's evil, racist, misogynist, etc. A tired old game.

8. sbourg Follow Befriend (2) 83 comments Ellicott City, MD

   140   7:43pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   To JG1: You're awesome and I understand and agree with your very interesting thoughts before the '08 election. To HRH: You don't even understand what JG1's saying.........and you don't know the difference between 'your' and 'you're', so we're not surprised you don't get it and call people (like JG1) racists. To HRH again: Republican fiscal conservatives will vote for like-minded, smaller federal govt candidates, and we DON'T care about 'color' or 'race'. That's why SO many TeaParty folks were thrilled ( like me) with Herman Cain, Allen West, etc. Liberals don't understand that conservatives are truly, POST-RACIAL. And when we see/hear of Liberals (like you) who don't understand and acknowledge that fact, we realize how stupid Liberals are. Period.

9. sbourg Follow Befriend (2) 83 comments Ellicott City, MD

   141   8:03pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Last major point to Liberals including Patrick on this blog: Obama started Occidental College Sept '79, 4 months after I graduated from Oxy. So naturally I was curious what he stood for in '07 when he started getting serious vs Hillary. And what I discovered from many sources (even his 2 books), was that he detested capitalism (this was his commonality with Bill Ayers by the way) , and didn't understand how capitalism works to provide maximum wealth and opportunity. He never got it......because he thought the opposite, and he loved marxist-ideas (Roger Boesche was his favorite prof at Oxy)......etc. Unfortunately, most Democrat-voters are just as economically-illiterate in their understanding of our country, and thus did NOT know what a dangerous Idealogue Obama would be. But it was obvious to fiscal conservatives.

10. sbourg Follow Befriend (2) 83 comments Ellicott City, MD

    142   8:16pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   To Patrick and his Liberal-like-minded, "wealth'-bashing, 'rich'-bashing, capitalism-bashing, small-govt-bashing.......drones.........read my previous posts on this blog, and this is my final point, after having considered and seen your lame, illogical, and for Patrick, non-existent rebuttals........this is what I have to say: Touche........that's pronounced 'Touchaay'. Checkmate, Game over. You lost. And hopefully you lose this November.

11. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    143   8:43pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   JG1 says And pulling the usual liberal trick, everything you don't like isn't just wrong or a different opinion, it's evil, racist, misogynist, etc. A tired old game. Yes, there is some of that on the far-left. I agree. Playing the "race card" is a classic example. Since 2004 they've been labeling anyone who disagrees with "gay marriage" as "homophobic."

12. sbourg Follow Befriend (2) 83 comments Ellicott City, MD

    144   8:54pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   JG: Regarding 'gay marriage'........Liberals are so ill-informed, they don't know BJ Clinton signed the 'Defense of Marriage Act' in '95 that defined man/woman marriage for all federal law purposes. And Democrats NOW, don't realize that if Obama cared about that issue, he Reid/Pelosi, could have changed that law in '09 when they had 60 Senate votes. Democrat voters are incredibly uninformed and clueless. They should be angry that Obama didn't do that stuff in late '09 when they could've passed anything.

13. bob2356 Follow Befriend 2 threads 2,497 comments

    145   11:10pm Sat 14 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   sbourg says Republican fiscal conservatives Where are you going to find these mythical republican fiscal conservatives? The only difference between the parties used to be democratic tax and spend vs republican borrow and spend. The democrats have simply evolved with the election of Obummer.

14. Auntiegrav Follow Befriend (5) 7 threads 228 comments Belgium, WI Premium

    146   8:38am Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Dan8267 says Yeah, it's called "one dollar, one vote", and it's the 'democracy' of the United States of America. The voting system I described relies on everyone having equal "voting power" or "dollars" as you put it. As such, voting with your wealth in America isn't the same thing. Only a tiny minority has the wealth to really vote with dollars in our country. Yup. That was kinda my point. The wealthy get to vote 'like' as many times as they want (in the millions and billions), vs. the one technical 'dislike' that a few actually exercise with any real thought. The other part of my point is the comparison between how many votes even the poor make every day for junk food, gasoline, and Asian labor compared to their single vote for leadership (of any kind). What's missing from America doesn't have to do with specific issues so much as a general lack of thoughtful representation by whomever sits in public offices. Most decisions are made the easy way: by the bottom line on a spreadsheet (or campaign contribution list) and Blind Faith in an Invisible Hand. Personally, I've tried to vote for who I thought was the most thoughtful candidates of either party (how would they act in a catastrophe? Would they make decisions or follow a script?), but lately, that doesn't seem to come out in the wash of useless crap covering every side. Just lizard after lizard after lizard, bought and paid for by the banks and advertisers.

15. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 248 threads 4,716 comments

    147   9:28am Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)   sbourg says And Democrats NOW, don't realize that if Obama cared about that issue, he Reid/Pelosi, could have changed that law in '09 when they had 60 Senate votes. Yeah that's the one that gets me, every time I hear someone say... "The Republicans wont let him." Insert issue here.

16. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 764 threads 7,709 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    148   12:01pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   Auntiegrav says Yup. That was kinda my point. The wealthy get to vote 'like' as many times as they want (in the millions and billions), vs. the one technical 'dislike' that a few actually exercise with any real thought. Then the system you are imagining is not the one I'm describing. Voting power would be allocated on a per person basis with all individuals having the same total voting power.

17. JG1 Follow Befriend 3 threads 243 comments Los Angeles, CA

    149   2:00pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   bob2356 says sbourg says Republican fiscal conservatives Where are you going to find these mythical republican fiscal conservatives? The only difference between the parties used to be democratic tax and spend vs republican borrow and spend. The democrats have simply evolved with the election of Obummer. OMG! Using the first letter of the last name of a person, combined with the word bummer is code racism. Patrick, when will this user forever be banned!? HRH, I'm not going to waste my time debating with someone whose first move is to cry racism where none exists. (My black ex-girlfriends may find your accusations amusing.) But you can take just about any economic indicator and compare it to just about any point in time in the Bush Admin., and Obummer will compare unfavorably.

18. sbourg Follow Befriend (2) 83 comments Ellicott City, MD

    150   4:00pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Hey Bob2356: Republican fiscal conservatives are not 'mythical'. They're alive and well and have passed good responsible legislation/budgets in the House of Reps. LIke last summer during the debt-ceiling debate. Boehner and budget chairman Paul Ryan passed an incredibly responsible long-term solution and budget proposal to reduce the annual deficit VERY significantly and responsibly. Guess what Harry Reid and the Democrat-controlled Senate did? They basically threw it in the trashcan. It didn't get a vote in the Senate. That's a fact.

19. bob2356 Follow Befriend 2 threads 2,497 comments

    151   7:08pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   says LIke last summer during the debt-ceiling debate. Boehner and budget chairman Paul Ryan passed an incredibly responsible long-term solution and budget proposal to reduce the annual deficit VERY significantly and responsibly. Which one, there were like half a dozen. I didn't see any that I would call incredibly responsible. Where was all this responsible legistlation/budgets from 2000 to 2008 with a Republican president, senate, and congress. The debt grew like crazy. So now these same people are incredibly responsible? There is only the demapublican party now. I don't like the democrats much, but at least pre obama they would raise taxes to pay for their foolishness. Obama is just bush's third term.

20. sbourg Follow Befriend (2) 83 comments Ellicott City, MD

    152   4:12am Mon 16 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Bob2356: Your opinion and my opinion are surely different on what is 'incredibly responsible'.......but the Republicans passed responsible budgets. As for the '01 to '08 years, remember that Reid and Pelosi controlled the Congress starting Jan '07.......the deficit each year was NOT a reckless, unsustainable disaster under Bush and the Republican Congress in Bush's 6 years. You forgot that Reid & Pelosi took over Jan '07......and BOY did they HATE Bush. They announced and were proud to say how irrelevant they were ready to make Bush regarding federal spending and policy decisions. Remember that. My next post in a minute will show the federal budget.

21. sbourg Follow Befriend (2) 83 comments Ellicott City, MD

    153   4:21am Mon 16 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Bob2356: See this chart of spending and let it sink in. During the 6 years of Bush-Republican budgets, federal annual deficits averaged $300B/year. Then even FY 9/30/08 was not so bad. But look at federal spending madness and annual deficits as they jumped to $1.2T/year. Federal govt spending $1.2T/year MORE than revenue (the annual deficit for 4 yrs in a row now), is the equivalent of pumping money into the economy (BORROWED from our CHILDREN's working careers!) and is so large it's enough each year to give $20,000 to 60 MILLION people. That buys alot of votes Bob.....mostly Democrat voters! If you have children you should be pissed and worried: http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200

22. CL Follow Befriend (12) 140 threads 1,355 comments Emeryville, CA

    154   4:57pm Mon 16 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   JG1 says http://www.amazon.com/Rush-Limbaugh-Big-Fat-Idiot/dp/0440508649 That was a great book! I liked "Operation Chickenhawk". And of course, Supply Side Jesus

23. sbourg Follow Befriend (2) 83 comments Ellicott City, MD

    155   4:46am Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Hey JG1 and Honest Abe: Check out the book recommended by CL !!!!!!!!!!! It's Al Franken's unserious, supposedly comic........trash. I perused it for 15 minutes at the bookstore. Here's my review: Franken's book is childish humor filled with name-calling and with the obvious message that Conservatives are wrong on everything. But Franken's economic, fiscal understanding of our country is absolute zero. He proves nothing, supports nothing, yet slams conservatives like a typical Libtard. And he doesn't even undestand Rush LImbaugh. The quotes he slams Rush for, are quotes that Rush meant to be funny. Rush jokes alot on his show and Franken doesn't understand that. Our country became alot worse in July '09 when Franken was seated as the 60th non-Republican in the Senate. This is an important book for Leftists. Figures.

24. CL Follow Befriend (12) 140 threads 1,355 comments Emeryville, CA

    156   9:58am Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   sbourg says Hey JG1 and Honest Abe: Check out the book recommended by CL !!!!!!!!!!! Someone is not very good at reading comprehension! I quoted JG1 (that's what that "JG1 says" part means). Unlike Limbaugh fans, I don't get my vital information from comedians or rodeo clowns. That said, I think Franken has been a great Senator and am glad I donated money to his successful campaign!

25. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    157   10:29am Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   bob2356 says Where are you going to find these mythical republican fiscal conservatives? The only difference between the parties used to be democratic tax and spend vs republican borrow and spend. Fiscal conservative Republicans died out a long time ago. They have to buy the "old vote." Example: Medicare D. bob2356 says Obama is just bush's third term.

26. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    158   10:32am Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   USD is still a preferred "risk off" currency. America is still great.

27. JG1 Follow Befriend 3 threads 243 comments Los Angeles, CA

    159   10:59am Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says Fiscal conservative Republicans died out a long time ago. They have to buy the "old vote." Example: Medicare D. Rand Paul will be interested to hear that.

28. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    160   11:01am Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Peter P says USD is still a preferred "risk off" currency. America is still great. You have a point. Maybe the US is the worst country on earth, except for all the others. I'm tempted to think some of the northern European countries are better, but of course they rely on Uncle Sam to defend them. They're like the adult children that live at home rent free. What happens when the parents go bankrupt and can no longer afford to be "guardians"?

29. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    161   11:04am Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   JG1 says Rand Paul will be interested to hear that. One (or two) politicians does not a party make. And if the Paul's had their way, we'd be right back to the Gilded Age (assuming we're not back there already).

30. bob2356 Follow Befriend 2 threads 2,497 comments

    162   12:11pm Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   sbourg says Bob2356: See this chart of spending and let it sink in. During the 6 years of Bush-Republican budgets, federal annual deficits averaged $300B/year. Then even FY 9/30/08 was not so bad. But look at federal spending madness and annual deficits as they jumped to $1.2T/year. Federal govt spending $1.2T/year MORE than revenue (the annual deficit for 4 yrs in a row now), is the equivalent of pumping money into the economy (BORROWED from our CHILDREN's working careers!) and is so large it's enough each year to give $20,000 to 60 MILLION people. That buys alot of votes Bob.....mostly Democrat voters! If you have children you should be pissed and worried: http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200 Only 300b AVERAGE deficit a year in the middle of the greatest bubble/boom economy in the history of the nation? When they took over it was plus 230. So the fiscally responsible republican's in total charge took 230+ turned it into average 300- while the economy boomed? You're right, my definition of responsible fiscally conservative republican is a lot different than yours. Fiscal responsibility like this is why I became independent after 30 years as a republican in 2002. What relevance does Obama's mess have to to with it? We were talking about responsible fiscally conservative republicans. At least Obama has the excuse of the greatest crash since the depression. What excuse is there for the Bush years?

31. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    163   12:20pm Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   bob2356 says So the fiscally responsible republican's in total charge took 230+ turned it into average 300- while the economy boomed? I wouldn't say the economy ever boomed during the Bush years. Unless you consider the artificial boom of the housing bubble. The last time we had a real "boom" was back in the late 90s when the internet and computers changed everything. Even much of that boom was a bubble, as we all know. But you're correct that fiscal conservatism is dead. Republicans have to buy votes too, particularly the votes of Old People, a major Republican constituent group.

32. JG1 Follow Befriend 3 threads 243 comments Los Angeles, CA

    164   1:04pm Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   bob2356 says Only 300b AVERAGE deficit a year in the middle of the greatest bubble/boom economy in the history of the nation? When they took over it was plus 230. So the fiscally responsible republican's in total charge took 230+ turned it into average 300- while the economy boomed? Bob - U have to realize and account for GOP fights for lower budgets, less spending, except on the item for which the federal government was primarily created to handle in the first place - national defense - but they are almost always saddled with Dems who have a majority or at least not a fillibuster-proof minority in one or both houses of Congress. And the Dems won't hesitate to accuse the GOP of racism, ageism, throwing granny off a cliff, etc. in the name of avoiding spending cuts. So it's a compromise. The last time the GOP really got its way, 1994, we had budget surpluses.

33. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    165   2:34pm Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   JG1 says The last time the GOP really got its way, 1994, we had budget surpluses. Fair enough, but what spending was the GOP really able to cut? There was welfare reform, but how much money did that actually save? Didn't Clinton successfully play the "grandma will be eating dog food" card and turn public opinion against the Republicans?

34. JG1 Follow Befriend 3 threads 243 comments Los Angeles, CA

    166   5:27pm Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   bob2356 says Which one, there were like half a dozen. I didn't see any that I would call incredibly responsible. Where was all this responsible legistlation/budgets from 2000 to 2008 with a Republican president, senate, and congress. The debt grew like crazy. So now these same people are incredibly responsible? There is only the demapublican party now. I don't like the democrats much, but at least pre obama they would raise taxes to pay for their foolishness. Obama is just bush's third term. He's waiting until he is reelected to raise taxes. On top of those already raised by Obamacare, that is.

35. sbourg Follow Befriend (2) 83 comments Ellicott City, MD

    167   8:45pm Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Hey JG1, HonestAbe and CapnShuddup: We're in this together, watching Patrick's Libtards on display. They actually do NOT realize how dangerous Obama is. He's FDR x 2 on economic issues, and that's a problem ! Remember to get my recomm book "FDR: New Deal or Raw Deal " They're not very good on History 2011 either. Who proposed a responsible budget? Boehner/Ryan and the Repubs voted it IN, passed it in August. But the Libtards don't care. In fact, they ridicule anything serious and responsible.

36. sbourg Follow Befriend (2) 83 comments Ellicott City, MD

    168   8:51pm Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   JG1: You're so right, 4 posts above about the Repubs during '01 to '07....they had to 'compromise' with the Dems because they didn't have 60 votes in the Senate. They wanted entitlements/Medicare to only grow by 30% in 5 years, Dems wanted 40%. The compromise by the petulant Dems was 39%. Bush compromised and agreed to sign Ted Kennedy's prescrip drug plan.....and now Liberals bash Bush for adding to the deficit. Libs don't like it when Repubs don't compromise, and then they bash Repubs for being fiscally irrresponsible when they DO compromise. Hopefully President Romney will have a backbone against these jackwads in the Senate led by Harry Reid the senior jackwad.

37. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,546 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    169   8:53pm Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected   sbourg says They're not very good on History 2011 either. Who proposed a responsible budget? Boehner/Ryan and the Repubs voted it IN, passed it in August. But the Libtards don't care. In fact, they ridicule anything serious and responsible. Anyone who calls the Ryan plan a responsible budget is simply too ignorant to have any right casting a vote. Romney's tax bracket would be 0% under this plan. No this is not an exaggeration.

38. Honest Abe Follow Befriend (41) 91 threads 1,806 comments

    170   6:59am Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Ryans plan doesn't even come close to repairing the damage caused by decades of radical liberal give away "free lunch" policies, programs, subsidies and the like. Any one who fails to understand that is simply too ignorant to have any right to cast a vote, or being allowed to post at Pat.net. And what anyone makes, or pays in taxes is none of YOUR business. Stop being a nosey, busybody...typical liberal.

39. sbourg Follow Befriend (2) 83 comments Ellicott City, MD

    171   5:09am Fri 20 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Wow Iwog.......that's harsh, saying Honest Abe and I are too ignorant to have a right to vote. I noticed a few of your 8,200 postings........you think of yourself as quite the superior captain of industry in your 'landlordism' business, and denigrate Honest Abe and me, Romney, and Paul Ryan as if we don't understand anything. Iwog, aren't you the least bit upset that your heroes Obama/Pelosi/Reid didn't pass ANYTHING to get the tax system more 'fair' as super-Libs would want and define 'fairness'.......they passed NOTHING in the 6 months starting July '09 when they had 60 non-Repub seats in the Senate (Al Franken was confirmed winner 7/1/09) ? It's obvious that they designed the do-nothing approach Iwog, to keep Libtards like you screaming about issues you think should be 'fixed', like the tax system, gay marriage at federal level, etc. They just 'saved' those issues so the Obama-sheeple would keep screaming in '12......and it worked. Dude, they suckered you.

40. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    172   6:20am Fri 20 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   iwog says Romney's tax bracket would be 0% under this plan. No this is not an exaggeration. But that's good. The rich create jobs!* *slave labor jobs in third-world countries

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