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By CL   Follow   Fri, 6 Jul 2012, 5:48pm   2,634 views   42 comments
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What have the Republicans done to address Health Care? Have they had any meetings, committees or anything? Can their defenders even name what they've done?

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1. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 414 threads 4,133 comments Baltimore, MD

   3   8:07pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   Mitt Romney talks about tort reform often enough.

2. CL Follow Befriend (12) 140 threads 1,355 comments Emeryville, CA

   4   8:38pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   But have they done anything? Democrats talked about Universal Health Care or a Public option. Or card check. But they did something else. Has the GOP even had a meeting?

3. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

   5   8:49pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)   CL says What have the Republicans done to address Health Care? Our problem isnt HealthCare.. thats all distraction from the real problem. JOBS and The Economy are the problem .. not HealthCare hand out! Perhaps the question should be... How has Obama done so far on Jobs/Economy? Feeling the Love yet? &feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLDBF9E0911C7048B4

4. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 248 threads 4,716 comments

   6   8:51pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Ron Paul is a Doctor...

5. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,546 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   7   9:00pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)   Protected   zzyzzx says For one thing Republicans want tort reform. Democrats don't want tort reform because trial attorneys donate a lot to Democrat candidate campaigns. If the homeowner isn't insulted by your offer...you didn't bid low enough!!! During the entire time Republicans dominated the government from 2001 through 2006 they never once introduced legislation for tort reform. In fact Republicans didn't do much of anything other than cut taxes, conduct wars, and deregulate industry.

6. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 248 threads 4,716 comments

   8   9:13pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)   iwog says tort reform Tort Reform? How about cranking out some Doctors give full medical scholarships for all kids with a C grade average and above.

7. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,546 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   9   9:23pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected   CaptainShuddup says Tort Reform? How about cranking out some Doctors give full medical scholarships for all kids with a C grade average and above. There's the old non-sequitur nonsense you were famous for before you changed your user name! Welcome back.

8. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

   10   9:25pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   iwog says conduct wars and you prefer 'we do what' after we were attacked by terrorists... thankfully we didnt elect your boy Gore or better yet... Kerry and his VP side kick John Edwards...

9. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,546 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   11   9:28pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   Protected   thomas.wong1986 says and you prefer 'we do what' after we were attacked by terrorists... Who were the Iraqi terrorists again? I think I forgot. thomas.wong1986 says thankfully we didnt elect your boy Gore or better yet... Kerry and his VP side kick John Edwards... You mean a Democratic president would have been ineffective in killing terrorists? Hilarious.

10. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

    12   9:41pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   iwog says Who were the Iraqi terrorists again? I think I forgot. Does it matter.. you seem to forgotten the timeline which led to the invasion of Iraq. Is it any different today with a Nuclear ready Iran ? Yes! your out of touch with the events of past and today...

11. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

    13   9:44pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)   iwog says You mean a Democratic president would have been ineffective in killing terrorists? Hilarious. Perhaps... maybe I could be wrong... we were going into Iraq with or not with Bush... Would Al Gore be different ?

12. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,546 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    14   9:45pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   thomas.wong1986 says iwog says Who were the Iraqi terrorists again? I think I forgot. Does it matter.. you seem to forgotten the timeline which led to the invasion of Iraq. Is it any different today with a Nuclear ready Iran ? Yes! your out of touch with the events of past and today... I asked you who the Iraqi terrorists were, so please answer me. YOU SAID that Bush's wars were a response to a terrorist threat. There wasn't any terrorist threat coming from Iraq, in fact the entire war was built on the lie of WMDs that didn't exist.........NOT TERRORISM!

13. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,546 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    15   9:45pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   thomas.wong1986 says Perhaps... maybe I could be wrong... we were going into Iraq with or not with Bush... Would Al Gore be different ? Yes you're wrong. Gore would not have invaded Iraq.

14. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

    16   9:51pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)   iwog says I asked you who the Iraqi terrorists were, so please answer me. YOU SAID that Bush's wars were a response to a terrorist threat. There wasn't any terrorist threat coming from Iraq, in fact the entire war was built on the lie of WMDs that didn't exist.........NOT TERRORISM! No, we attached Afghanistan over the attack.. the timeline regarding Iraq was over the WMD and ongoing inspections.. they ignored our resolve and paid the price with us invading and destroying Sadam's regime.

15. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

    17   9:53pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   iwog says There wasn't any terrorist threat coming from Iraq, in fact the entire war was built on the lie of WMDs that didn't exist.........NOT TERRORISM! short on memory! &feature=related

16. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,546 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    18   11:23pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   thomas.wong1986 says No, we attached Afghanistan over the attack.. the timeline regarding Iraq was over the WMD and ongoing inspections.. they ignored our resolve and paid the price with us invading and destroying Sadam's regime. That's really funny because I could have sworn you said this: thomas.wong1986 says iwog says conduct wars and you prefer 'we do what' after we were attacked by terrorists... Do you want to change your answer now? Bush sent 20,000 troops to afghanistan and 140,000 troops to Iraq. YOU brought up terrorism in reply to my statement on wars, the largest war being Iraq by far.......so I'll ask you again: Which terrorists were from Iraq?

17. Buster Follow Befriend (7) 22 threads 325 comments

    19   11:51pm Fri 6 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   thomas.wong1986 says CL says What have the Republicans done to address Health Care? Our problem isnt HealthCare.. thats all distraction from the real problem. JOBS and The Economy are the problem .. not HealthCare hand out! Perhaps the question should be... How has Obama done so far on Jobs/Economy? Feeling the Love yet? &feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLDBF9E0911C7048B4 50 Million Americans do not have any type of health insurance. I would say that that is a problem.

18. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

    20   12:01am Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   iwog says Do you want to change your answer now? Bush sent 20,000 troops to afghanistan and 140,000 troops to Iraq. YOU brought up terrorism in reply to my statement on wars, the largest war being Iraq by far.......so I'll ask you again: Which terrorists were from Iraq? You said, conduct a war, and I said yes, when your attacked by Terrorists you brought up the invasion of Iraq, Terrorists and WMD. and I said yes see above...

19. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

    21   12:02am Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   iwog says Which terrorists were from Iraq? see above.. your buddies can fill in the spots! So where did you buddies Pelosi, Kerry, and Al Gore go wrong ?

20. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

    22   12:09am Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Buster says 50 Million Americans do not have any type of health insurance. I would say that that is a problem. So what ? and there are 50+M that dont have a job ? Health insurance like wage/salary is something you earn or pay for. Want to have Govt do my home, car, and business insurance ?

21. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

    23   12:18am Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Iwog, are you ready for a Nuclear Iran ? They dont care.. if your French, British, American, Chinese, Russian, or from Latin American.. an evil government now armed with missiles and nukes. Who will live or die to save your ass ? But you deny everything !

22. bob2356 Follow Befriend 2 threads 2,497 comments

    24   12:21am Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   thomas.wong1986 says You said, conduct a war, and I said yes, when your attacked by Terrorists you brought up the invasion of Iraq, Terrorists and WMD. and I said yes see above.. So I'm curious now also. Which Iraq terrorists did we conduct a war about.

23. thomas.wong1986 Follow Befriend 16 threads 4,426 comments

    25   12:32am Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   bob2356 says So I'm curious now also. Which Iraq terrorists did we conduct a war about Blind and stupid... we invaded two countries.. for two reasons.. or have you forgotten! after 911... no one was going to mess around and certainly not after Iraq was invaded... do you recall how Gaddafii handed over all his WMD project material and equipment after Iraq was invaded. He saw the writing on the wall. Yes, the world is safer, from both invasions! how many MILLION lives were saved... "Libya possesses chemical weapons and ballistic missiles and previously pursued nuclear weapons under the leadership of Muammar Gaddafi. On 19 December 2003, Gaddafi announced that Libya would voluntarily eliminate all materials, equipment and programs that could lead to internationally proscribed weapons, including weapons of mass destruction and long-range ballistic missiles" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libya_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

24. bdrasin Follow Befriend 6 threads 490 comments Alameda, CA

    26   6:46am Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   thomas.wong1986 says iwog says I asked you who the Iraqi terrorists were, so please answer me. YOU SAID that Bush's wars were a response to a terrorist threat. There wasn't any terrorist threat coming from Iraq, in fact the entire war was built on the lie of WMDs that didn't exist.........NOT TERRORISM! No, we attached Afghanistan over the attack.. the timeline regarding Iraq was over the WMD and ongoing inspections.. they ignored our resolve and paid the price with us invading and destroying Sadam's regime. I have no idea what country you were living in during the runup to the invasion of Iraq, but here in the U.S. there is no question that the major rational for invading Iraq was payback for 9/11; WMD was definitely secondary and largely a pretext. I attended a lot of protests at the time and without fail there were counter-protesters and they didn't talk about WMD or UN resolutions; the yelled over and over again "DID 9/11 NOT HAPPEN YOU FOOLS!!!", and so on. Its just dishonest to say this wasn't the case. Furthermore, here's Bush's letter to congress with the official justification for war: George W Bush said Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. President: ) Consistent with section 3(b) of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107-243), and based on information available to me, including that in the enclosed document, I determine that: (1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic and other peaceful means alone will neither (A) adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq nor (B) likely lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and (2) acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001. That letter doesn't contain the blunt statement "Iraq was responsible for 9/11", but only in the same way that "Have you stopped beating your wife?" doesn't explicitly accuse you of beating your wife. The second is a statement that makes no sense except in light of the assumption that you do beat your wife; in the same way Bush's statement makes no sense except in light of the assumption that Iraq was involved with the 9/11 attacks. It's dishonest and tiresome to claim otherwise.

25. lostand confused Follow Befriend (9) 165 threads 1,548 comments Premium

    27   8:23am Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   zzyzzx says For one thing Republicans want tort reform. Democrats don't want tort reform because trial attorneys donate a lot to Democrat candidate campaigns. If the homeowner isn't insulted by your offer...you didn't bid low enough!!! Not really. Texas is an absolute republican majority-veto proof. No tort reform there and neither in any of the republican strongholds. Republicans are just full of rhetoric. Take tort reform champion Rick Santorum. He champions capping malpractice suits to 250k and yet in his campaign, it was revealed that his wife sued their doctor for 500k.

26. bdrasin Follow Befriend 6 threads 490 comments Alameda, CA

    28   8:34am Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   lostand confused says zzyzzx says For one thing Republicans want tort reform. Democrats don't want tort reform because trial attorneys donate a lot to Democrat candidate campaigns. If the homeowner isn't insulted by your offer...you didn't bid low enough!!! Not really. Texas is an absolute republican majority-veto proof. No tort reform there and neither in any of the republican strongholds. This isn't true I'm afraid. Texas implemented a very radical tort reform in 2003 which capped non economic damages at 250k. This has reduced lawsuits and medical malpractice costs somewhat, but hasn't really brought down the cost of healthcare. What Texas et al. has NOT done is allow "purchase of health insurance across state lines", which of course they could do: just pass a law that any health care provider licensed in any of the other 49 states can sell a health plan in Texas without having to follow any of Texas' regulations. They haven't done this...I wonder why?

27. lostand confused Follow Befriend (9) 165 threads 1,548 comments Premium

    29   8:39am Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   Aah. It was a voter passed initiative. But Santorum's wife still sued for 500k. But I think either parties don't really care. Take the Governemnt of India-a third world country. They just passed a law giving free generic drugs to all their citizens. Hundreds of millions of poor folks can now get free drugs for all ailments-diabetes, cancer, HIV etc-for free. Our country won't even allow importing drugs from across the border-well except for pharmacies and wholesalers and the original manufacturers. So who is the third world country now?

28. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 171 threads 4,208 comments Premium

    30   9:23am Sat 7 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   All those uninsured people need to ask what they're doing for shareholder value, which is the basis of our democracy.

29. CL Follow Befriend (12) 140 threads 1,355 comments Emeryville, CA

    31   11:10am Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   So, even Republican defenders can't name a single thing done to address the spiraling costs of healthcare? Or the large number of uninsured?

30. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 248 threads 4,716 comments

    32   11:19am Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   Yeah non sequitor nonsense aye Iwog. You know it's damn funny the hospitals are full of Haitian and Hispanic(the domestic service lot) Nurses that barely speak a word of English, they are paid crap on the dollar, yet there presence there is represented by thousands on a hospital stay. These people have less than 11 months of 1hour a day classes. We don't mind these folks to poke, prick and prod you with needles, catheters, dispense medicine ect... But God forbid, Carl Smith, Ashley Crawford from south Philly get a doctor degree on the public dime, and practice medicine, and make all of those communities and the hardships, that the assholes that put them selves through all that crap to send their kids to "Good school", all for naught.

31. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 248 threads 4,716 comments

    33   11:36am Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   CL says So, even Republican defenders can't name a single thing done to address the spiraling costs of healthcare? Or the large number of uninsured? Well why don't you name one thing the Liberals have done, you know you take the Cake buddy. In case you've been in the bathroom taking a massive Shit for the last three years. Healthcare cost has almost tripled since the introduction of Obamacare/tax. But please name just one thing that the Liberals have done to tone down that ironic fate. I mean besides going long on Healthcare stocks, and the Financials. Don't forget these assholes get to pass the laws that best suit their financial positions. So Stop with the holier than though Bull Shit, I don't know what America you're paying attention to, but there's two fucked up parties driving this shit to ruination. And you folks keep asking the right to curb their dogs, when your mutts are shitting all over the constitution and pissing on the flag. Among other things!

32. bdrasin Follow Befriend 6 threads 490 comments Alameda, CA

    34   11:44am Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Jonathan Krohn says These are not adults leveling serious criticism; these are scorned right-wingers showing all the maturity of a little boy. No wonder I fit in so well when I was 13. Yep, that's about the size of it I'm afraid

33. CL Follow Befriend (12) 140 threads 1,355 comments Emeryville, CA

    35   11:46am Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says Well why don't you name one thing the Liberals have done The ACA. Like it or not, it addresses a lot of concerns that people have. And if you think costs went up lately, despite the fact that little has been enacted yet, then how much of that increase is due to ACA and not due to greedy providers? It's not enough to simply confuse cause and symptom.

34. errc Follow Befriend (7) 29 threads 1,214 comments 31 male Premium

    36   11:47am Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected   lostand confused says Aah. It was a voter passed initiative. But Santorum's wife still sued for 500k. But I think either parties don't really care. Take the Governemnt of India-a third world country. They just passed a law giving free generic drugs to all their citizens. Hundreds of millions of poor folks can now get free drugs for all ailments-diabetes, cancer, HIV etc-for free. Our country won't even allow importing drugs from across the border-well except for pharmacies and wholesalers and the original manufacturers. So who is the third world country now? Wow, free drugs for all. Imagine how much healthier those people are now! What kind of devolutionary trough are we suffering through, where people have attatched onto this silly notion that if only more humans had access to insurance and drugs, we'll all be that much collectively more healthy? Is that how you define health? Insurance and drugs? Me thinks yous guys have watched a tad bit too much television, and bought all the way into the lies that scribed drugs will give you that perfect vision of health you long for, while sitting in front of the fucking boob tubes six hours a day shoveling whole grain cereals and diet sodas down your gullet. Get a clue!

35. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 248 threads 4,716 comments

    37   11:52am Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   CL says The ACA. Like it or not, it addresses a lot of concerns that people have. Dude everyone that was indigent before were covered in this country. What ACA does is make healthcare for the middle class "UNAFFORDABLE" and takes healthcare from our Seniors in a time in their life when THEY NEED it most. But those 20 something crack heads, bums and whores on the streets are going to have the best coverage Socialism can buy, while we saps the Ham and Eggers and those that have retired hopping they passed the baton to a bright capable generation that will care for them. Will now be squeezing our elderly for every last cent of SS and Retirement money while Whores and Druggies run through a revolving door with a "Get in free" wrist band.

36. CL Follow Befriend (12) 140 threads 1,355 comments Emeryville, CA

    38   3:09pm Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says Dude everyone that was indigent before were covered in this country. Covered how though? In the worst, most expensive way possible by the overworked ER people who are supposed to be in triage? ER doctors are sick of helping people who could have been help by a GP.

37. lostand confused Follow Befriend (9) 165 threads 1,548 comments Premium

    39   4:14pm Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   errc says Wow, free drugs for all. Imagine how much healthier those people are now! What kind of devolutionary trough are we suffering through, where people have attatched onto this silly notion that if only more humans had access to insurance and drugs, we'll all be that much collectively more healthy? Is that how you define health? Insurance and drugs? Me thinks yous guys have watched a tad bit too much television, and bought all the way into the lies that scribed drugs will give you that perfect vision of health you long for, while sitting in front of the fucking boob tubes six hours a day shoveling whole grain cereals and diet sodas down your gullet. Get a clue! Is this satire?? LOL!!!!

38. futuresmc Follow Befriend (1) 1 threads 387 comments Buffalo, NY

    40   6:31pm Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   zzyzzx says For one thing Republicans want tort reform. Democrats don't want tort reform because trial attorneys donate a lot to Democrat candidate campaigns. Tort Reform is the most pure expression of Republican hypocracy. Torts are one of the few effective means to enforce market disclipline, WITHOUT regulation. If you remove regulation and you remove the threat of torts or even make that threat managable, you have no means of holding those in the marketplace accountable when they knowingly sell unsafe products and services. Nobody who values the free market should want to do away with torts.

39. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 248 threads 4,716 comments

    41   8:02pm Mon 9 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   futuresmc says Tort Reform is the most pure expression of Republican hypocracy. Torts are one of the few effective means to enforce market disclipline, WITHOUT regulation. If you remove regulation and you remove the threat of torts or even make that threat managable, you have no means of holding those in the marketplace accountable when they knowingly sell unsafe products and services. Nobody who values the free market should want to do away with torts. You guys reading this? BTW Futch it's not just republicans calling or that. It's the go to untapped cure all. Everyone has heard for so long, they are all starting to believe it. That being said, it should be easy to sue the dogshit out of a lawyer if he drags a company into frivolous litigation and loses. Especially if it's established that he's predatory, and the quality of suits are shaky and shady and he's playing the numbers. Meaning most companies will eventually tire down and just settle out of court, to get the lawyer out of the way. Creeps like that, it should be easy to shut them down, and own their house in the Hamptons.

40. Buster Follow Befriend (7) 22 threads 325 comments

    42   9:44pm Tue 10 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   thomas.wong1986 says Buster says 50 Million Americans do not have any type of health insurance. I would say that that is a problem. So what ? and there are 50+M that dont have a job ? Health insurance like wage/salary is something you earn or pay for. Want to have Govt do my home, car, and business insurance ? By your response, I am certain that you tell everyone that you are a 'compassionate christian' lol. LDS forever baby!

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