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Nearly 4 million Californians cannot afford enough food

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1. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 171 threads 4,209 comments Premium

   1   11:39am Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike   Next stop: CANNIBAL ANARCHY!

2. Carolyn C Follow Befriend 50 comments Pleasanton, CA

   2   2:33pm Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   In case you haven't payed attention, the reason for our nations obesity is the poor quality processed food that is cheap and readily available. Stop bashing the poor. It's horrible and shows off your mob mentality. It was the rich that horded the land. Bankrupted the small farmers, genetically altered food then patent the seeds, and developed food that creates and erg to eat more food. In case you haven't noticed with your noses perched high in the air, fresh fruits and vegetables are costly. A dollars hamburger goes along way. Give the poor back their land and time so they can grow their own food.

3. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 413 threads 6,982 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

   3   7:52am Fri 13 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)   zzyzzx says I'm guessing that there are plenty enough fat people in CA, which would suggest that people there have no problem obtaining food. A major problem is that cheap (affordable) food is high in empty calories. Fresh fruit, veggies, higher protein meats are hart to afford on snap or low pay. People often are fat because they can't afford the good stuff. They don't feel so great after eating crap, and exercise less. It's a vicious cycle.

4. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 413 threads 6,982 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

   4   7:53am Fri 13 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Call it Crazy says You can buy a lot of fruits and vegetables and healthy food for the price of the supersized Big Mac meal at Micky D's.... No, you can't. $7.00 for a meal at McDonalds that fills you up equals a couple of pounds of fruit. That goes quickly.

5. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 229 threads 2,779 comments

   5   8:12am Fri 13 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike (2)   elliemae says No, you can't. $7.00 for a meal at McDonalds that fills you up equals a couple of pounds of fruit. That goes quickly. Sorry... Fail... I can feed a family of three two complete healthy meals for $7.00 that contains pasta, sauce, vegs, fruits and more.. Of course, it won't contain the fat, sugar and other processed crap that makes Micky D's food taste so "good"... it's all about choices....

6. mmmarvel Follow Befriend (4) 103 comments

   6   1:59pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Zlxr says Alot of poor people these days don't have a kitchen, pots or pans or a stove - so you can't really call them lazy because they have to buy fast food to get a cooked meal. Really???? Where do you live that this is the case??? I work as a building inspector and I can tell you that it is in the building code that family residence (be it house or apartment) is REQUIRED to have a minimum of three areas for a certificate of occupancy to be issued. They need a sleeping area, they need an area for bathing and toilet AND they need a kitchen area. The only exception to this are hotels and motels, which don't need the kitchen area; and if they can afford a hotel/motel they should be able to afford a studio apartment. Sorry, I don't buy your argument.

7. joshuatrio Follow Befriend 41 threads 703 comments Monterey, CA

   7   3:48pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   mmmarvel says Agreed, and figure that $7 is for ONE MEAL for ONE PERSON, so for a family of four, father, mother, 13 year old girl and a 10 year old boy, let's figure the costs. Let's cut breakfast to each to $5 each, lunch at $7 each and dinner at $7 each that's a total of $19 a day per person or $76 a day for the family. You mean you can't buy groceries and fix wonderful meals (which include leftovers for lunches or the next night's dinner) for $76 a day??? For $76, I can pick up a four fat ribeye's, couple six packs of brew, a bag of potatoes and still have $20 left over for a few five dollar footlongs from subway... lol The idea that it's cheaper to eat fast food, or even tv dinner type/pre packaged processed foods over healthy foods makes me laugh. Our smoothie consumption costs exactly $45 a month - for two people. That works out to around .75 cents per person a day, for several pieces of fruit and vegetables to start the day off. This is a full breakfast. Usually consisting of celery, carrots, spinach, straw/blue/blackberrys, bananas, mangos, coconut etc.... Basically whatever is in season goes in the blender. It tastes good. Kids love it too. What about going out for breakfast? How much are egg mcmuffins... What about denney's, ihop? Lunch is even worse.. Dinner tops them all. Low quality, fast, processed food is expensive and terrible for you. HRHMedia says Fast food is not cheap food. It's just low quality food. You will end up paying for it so go high quality over speed and quantity. Never eat fast food or ANY PROCESSED FOODS EVER!. Exactly.

8. joshuatrio Follow Befriend 41 threads 703 comments Monterey, CA

   8   8:33am Mon 16 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Zlxr says But unfortunately addictions are hard to beat and the children suffer for it. This is true - my wife and I have been giving financial counseling to another couple living check to check (who make more than I do). Starting with the grocery budget, it was out of control. Over $1000/month on food. With a little help from my wife and meal planning, they were able to cut food costs down to $80/week for a family of five. My point is, even with accountability, and checking in, and shopping with this family - to help them get their spending under control. They almost immediately reverted back to their old ways, buying junk/processed foods, soda. A lot of people would rather be broke, eating poorly - than have a little cash in the bank and on a healthy diet....

9. tdeloco Follow Befriend (2) 11 threads 218 comments San Jose, CA

   9   10:30am Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   http://www.gallup.com/poll/156806/one-four-mississippi-residents-struggle-afford-food.aspx

10. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 171 threads 4,209 comments Premium

    10   11:10am Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   People who eat solid meals - fruit, veg, deep greens, fish are much less hungry because they are actually nourished, a completely different state than being merely full. But a lot of that basket of items is getting pricey. What's left for people on severe budgets are ramen, bulk eggs, crappy chicken, pasta, pancake mix, rice and beans and, if you're lucky, some seasonal fruits and cheaper beef cuts like London Broil and dented can specials with real food in them like asparagus. Mostly, you're relegated to piles of starches when you're poor.

11. FortWayne Follow Befriend (13) 102 threads 3,764 comments

    11   11:27am Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   anon12366 says High taxation, high cost of living, highest foreclosure rate in the nation, grossly overpaid public servants and employees ($200k baby boomer lifeguards, $400k baby boomer firefighters), unlimited entitlements for illegal alien invaders, most "homeowners" underwater, insane real estate prices and a legislature whose policy goals for "affordable" housing consists of reinflation of the re bubble and multi-generational mortgage repayment terms. What can the democratic party do for you? In CA, all winners are are on a government gravy train. Of course there is a problem. The problem now is that they don't know how to prolong the pyramid scheme, it's starting to fall apart. There aren't enough new people joining their pension scam pyramid in order to actually pay for the unsustainable promises they bought with bribe money.

12. anon12366 Follow Befriend (2) 61 comments Palo Alto, CA

    12   11:23am Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   High taxation, high cost of living, highest foreclosure rate in the nation, grossly overpaid public servants and employees ($200k baby boomer lifeguards, $400k baby boomer firefighters), unlimited entitlements for illegal alien invaders, most "homeowners" underwater, insane real estate prices and a legislature whose policy goals for "affordable" housing consists of reinflation of the re bubble and multi-generational mortgage repayment terms. What can the democratic party do for you?

13. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 171 threads 4,209 comments Premium

    13   12:44pm Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   CANNIBAL ANARCHISTS from Outer Space!

14. joshuatrio Follow Befriend 41 threads 703 comments Monterey, CA

    14   7:19am Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Call it Crazy says elliemae says No, you can't. $7.00 for a meal at McDonalds that fills you up equals a couple of pounds of fruit. That goes quickly. Sorry... Fail... I can feed a family of three two complete healthy meals for $7.00 that contains pasta, sauce, vegs, fruits and more.. Of course, it won't contain the fat, sugar and other processed crap that makes Micky D's food taste so "good"... it's all about choices.... Absolutely right. My wife does most of the shopping, and feeds a family of four, monthly for about $300. If we eat out, it's no more more than once a week for a local burrito bringing our total to a max of $400. If you shop local farmers markets, you can literally walk out with bags of produce for a few bucks. For example, there is a farmers landing in Moss Landing, CA on Rt1 (that we go to) where you can get these deals. It's all fresh, straight from the field. Buy in season. Sometimes it's 10 avocados for a $1, oranges are around the same..... just a couple examples. I eat smoothies consisting ONLY of fruits/veggies for breakfast, for lunch a salad with tons of veggies, and for dinner it's whatever my wife prepared. Stay away from dairy/soda/processed foods, which are expensive; LEARN TO COOK. The only dairy in our house if half-n-half for coffee. To us, $7 to eat out fast food is unacceptable. It's expensive, and it's junk.

15. mmmarvel Follow Befriend (4) 103 comments

    15   2:10pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   joshuatrio says To us, $7 to eat out fast food is unacceptable. It's expensive, and it's junk. Agreed, and figure that $7 is for ONE MEAL for ONE PERSON, so for a family of four, father, mother, 13 year old girl and a 10 year old boy, let's figure the costs. Let's cut breakfast to each to $5 each, lunch at $7 each and dinner at $7 each that's a total of $19 a day per person or $76 a day for the family. You mean you can't buy groceries and fix wonderful meals (which include leftovers for lunches or the next night's dinner) for $76 a day??? Sheesh, I'd eat like a king on that kind of money and YES, I too saw 'families' (mostly families of color) who came home EVERY NIGHT with 'dinner' from MickyDee's. Typically didn't see them toting a lunch bag when they left for work in the morning. No, either you take responsibility for your actions or you don't. MickeyDee's EVERY DAY is NOT taking responsibility.

16. mmmarvel Follow Befriend (4) 103 comments

    16   2:52pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   HRHMedia says bad news dude come Jan 2013 it starts all over again. we probably will be in a recession by xmas. ESPECIALLY if Obama is returned to the office. The man has been bad for the country and four more years will be four more years of horror. He has NO CLUE as to how to run a country, he only knows how to spend money we don't have; we'll spend our way out of this mess - yeah, sure.

17. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    17   3:54pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   My strategy is to eat only expensive meat ($20+/lb) but eat a lot less meat in general. I love beet and celery juice.

18. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 414 threads 4,134 comments Baltimore, MD

    18   10:15am Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)   I'm guessing that there are plenty enough fat people in CA, which would suggest that people there have no problem obtaining food.

19. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    19   12:33pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says Peter P says Redistribution of body fat. Fair society. Problem solved! No thanks, I don't want somebody else's body fat.... Even in the form of organic soap? LOL!

20. Vicente Follow Befriend (8) 204 threads 4,411 comments Davis, CA

    20   11:00pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Is this the thread where we prop up "pretend poor people" and knock down those strawmen with all our might? Certainly looks like everyone here knows the story line about how poor people are fat, stupid, boozers, who don't know how to cook. Or they are eating "the wrong foods" and that's their problem.