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Nearly 4 million Californians cannot afford enough food

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1. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 416 threads 4,137 comments Baltimore, MD

   1   10:15am Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)   I'm guessing that there are plenty enough fat people in CA, which would suggest that people there have no problem obtaining food.

2. anon12366 Follow Befriend (2) 61 comments Palo Alto, CA

   2   11:23am Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   High taxation, high cost of living, highest foreclosure rate in the nation, grossly overpaid public servants and employees ($200k baby boomer lifeguards, $400k baby boomer firefighters), unlimited entitlements for illegal alien invaders, most "homeowners" underwater, insane real estate prices and a legislature whose policy goals for "affordable" housing consists of reinflation of the re bubble and multi-generational mortgage repayment terms. What can the democratic party do for you?

3. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 249 threads 4,736 comments

   3   11:29am Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   Well let's get on it, and raise Gas and Oil prices. That'll fix things, it's only made things worse for the last 5 straight years, but I just know it's gotta work eventually. Yeah and how are there so many Fat people if they aren't getting enough to eat. Sure seems odd to me, people get Fat with out actually engorging them selves on a super size value meal every ten minutes. How is that possible, can't be metabolism and thyroid conditions, now can it? I personally blame the top 1%, they are eating all of the food.

4. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 171 threads 4,211 comments Premium

   4   11:39am Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike   Next stop: CANNIBAL ANARCHY!

5. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 416 threads 4,137 comments Baltimore, MD

   5   12:25pm Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says Next stop: CANNIBAL ANARCHY!

6. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 171 threads 4,211 comments Premium

   6   12:44pm Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   CANNIBAL ANARCHISTS from Outer Space!

7. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 229 threads 2,779 comments

   7   1:25pm Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   zzyzzx says APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says Next stop: CANNIBAL ANARCHY! Thank God!!! I'm safe!!!!

8. StoutFiles Follow Befriend (1) 24 threads 557 comments

   8   1:28pm Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)   Call it Crazy says Thank God!!! I'm safe!!!! First they came for the mega-fatties, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a mega-fatty Then they came for the fatties, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a fatty. Then they came for the slightly overweight, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't slightly overweight. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

9. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 229 threads 2,779 comments

   9   2:19pm Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   StoutFiles says Call it Crazy says Thank God!!! I'm safe!!!! First they came for the mega-fatties, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a mega-fatty Then they came for the fatties, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a fatty. Then they came for the slightly overweight, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't slightly overweight. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. I just hope they are full before they come for me!!

10. Carolyn C Follow Befriend 50 comments Pleasanton, CA

    10   2:33pm Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   In case you haven't payed attention, the reason for our nations obesity is the poor quality processed food that is cheap and readily available. Stop bashing the poor. It's horrible and shows off your mob mentality. It was the rich that horded the land. Bankrupted the small farmers, genetically altered food then patent the seeds, and developed food that creates and erg to eat more food. In case you haven't noticed with your noses perched high in the air, fresh fruits and vegetables are costly. A dollars hamburger goes along way. Give the poor back their land and time so they can grow their own food.

11. BobMSN Follow Befriend 3 threads 98 comments

    11   3:06pm Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   Carolyn C says "the reason for our nations obesity is the poor quality processed food that is cheap and readily available." In this theory, we should have more fat people in China because the food quality is much worse there. Also, the foodstamp must be too big because the food is so cheap.

12. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 229 threads 2,779 comments

    12   4:37pm Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (4)   Carolyn C says In case you haven't payed attention, the reason for our nations obesity is the poor quality processed food that is cheap and readily available. Right, and these people were tied down and handcuffed and "forced" at gun point to eat all that processed food...... have you heard of "personal responsibility"?? Carolyn C says fresh fruits and vegetables are costly. A dollars hamburger goes along way. You can buy a lot of fruits and vegetables and healthy food for the price of the supersized Big Mac meal at Micky D's.... Carolyn C says Give the poor back their land and time so they can grow their own food. They would then have to get their fat asses off the couch and go work outside in the garden. Yea, like that is really going to happen.....

13. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 413 threads 6,982 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

    13   7:52am Fri 13 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)   zzyzzx says I'm guessing that there are plenty enough fat people in CA, which would suggest that people there have no problem obtaining food. A major problem is that cheap (affordable) food is high in empty calories. Fresh fruit, veggies, higher protein meats are hart to afford on snap or low pay. People often are fat because they can't afford the good stuff. They don't feel so great after eating crap, and exercise less. It's a vicious cycle.

14. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 413 threads 6,982 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

    14   7:53am Fri 13 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Call it Crazy says You can buy a lot of fruits and vegetables and healthy food for the price of the supersized Big Mac meal at Micky D's.... No, you can't. $7.00 for a meal at McDonalds that fills you up equals a couple of pounds of fruit. That goes quickly.

15. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 229 threads 2,779 comments

    15   8:12am Fri 13 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike (2)   elliemae says No, you can't. $7.00 for a meal at McDonalds that fills you up equals a couple of pounds of fruit. That goes quickly. Sorry... Fail... I can feed a family of three two complete healthy meals for $7.00 that contains pasta, sauce, vegs, fruits and more.. Of course, it won't contain the fat, sugar and other processed crap that makes Micky D's food taste so "good"... it's all about choices....

16. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 229 threads 2,779 comments

    16   8:15am Fri 13 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   elliemae says Fresh fruit, veggies, higher protein meats are hart to afford on snap or low pay. People often are fat because they can't afford the good stuff. They don't feel so great after eating crap, and exercise less. Ever stand in line at the grocery store and see what the "SNAP" people have in their cart??? They choose to buy crap over good stuff. Hell, it ain't their money, so let's have a good time with it. Their choice of food is what makes them fat along with their choice to not exercise.. Remember, personal responsibility for our choices!!

17. joshuatrio Follow Befriend 41 threads 703 comments Monterey, CA

    17   7:19am Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Call it Crazy says elliemae says No, you can't. $7.00 for a meal at McDonalds that fills you up equals a couple of pounds of fruit. That goes quickly. Sorry... Fail... I can feed a family of three two complete healthy meals for $7.00 that contains pasta, sauce, vegs, fruits and more.. Of course, it won't contain the fat, sugar and other processed crap that makes Micky D's food taste so "good"... it's all about choices.... Absolutely right. My wife does most of the shopping, and feeds a family of four, monthly for about $300. If we eat out, it's no more more than once a week for a local burrito bringing our total to a max of $400. If you shop local farmers markets, you can literally walk out with bags of produce for a few bucks. For example, there is a farmers landing in Moss Landing, CA on Rt1 (that we go to) where you can get these deals. It's all fresh, straight from the field. Buy in season. Sometimes it's 10 avocados for a $1, oranges are around the same..... just a couple examples. I eat smoothies consisting ONLY of fruits/veggies for breakfast, for lunch a salad with tons of veggies, and for dinner it's whatever my wife prepared. Stay away from dairy/soda/processed foods, which are expensive; LEARN TO COOK. The only dairy in our house if half-n-half for coffee. To us, $7 to eat out fast food is unacceptable. It's expensive, and it's junk.

18. clambo Follow Befriend (5) 1,070 comments Santa Cruz, CA

    18   9:16am Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (3)   Then why are they all so FAT? The so-called "poor" are the same lazy, loser people who had kids with no father, didn't care, and won't cook or lift a finger so it's all Mcdonald's all the time for them. They look like it too. Man they are HUGE. I love McDonalds 1. coffee 2. coffee drinks 3. smoothies (mango pineapple). So I am in there and I see those "hungry poor", give me a break. Then I go to Whole foods and the apples are $2.69/lb so that's about $1.50 for one apple? No way jose. I guess they're not quite hungry enough since they continue to reproduce. Usually in the animal kingdom fecundity drops.

19. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    19   9:40am Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   Let's replace all taxes with a Calories Tax! Each calorie should carry a tax of $0.05 or so. We can give everyone a standard deduction each year so that people do not starve. The proceeds can be used to feed poor people. Redistribution of body fat. Fair society. Problem solved!

20. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 229 threads 2,779 comments

    20   12:30pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (3)   clambo says Then why are they all so FAT? The so-called "poor" are the same lazy, loser people who had kids with no father, didn't care, and won't cook or lift a finger so it's all Mcdonald's all the time for them. They look like it too. Man they are HUGE. Here's why: Big Mac - 550 Calories Large Fries - 500 Calories Large Coke - 310 Calories Ketchup Packet - 15 Calories Grand Total = 1,375 Calories for ONE meal.... Plus, add what ever else they "have" for dessert?? Now multiply by how many other meals in one day and you have your answer!! http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/getnutrition/nutritionfacts.pdf

21. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 229 threads 2,779 comments

    21   12:32pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   Peter P says Redistribution of body fat. Fair society. Problem solved! No thanks, I don't want somebody else's body fat....

22. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    22   12:33pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says Peter P says Redistribution of body fat. Fair society. Problem solved! No thanks, I don't want somebody else's body fat.... Even in the form of organic soap? LOL!

23. mmmarvel Follow Befriend (4) 104 comments

    23   1:59pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Zlxr says Alot of poor people these days don't have a kitchen, pots or pans or a stove - so you can't really call them lazy because they have to buy fast food to get a cooked meal. Really???? Where do you live that this is the case??? I work as a building inspector and I can tell you that it is in the building code that family residence (be it house or apartment) is REQUIRED to have a minimum of three areas for a certificate of occupancy to be issued. They need a sleeping area, they need an area for bathing and toilet AND they need a kitchen area. The only exception to this are hotels and motels, which don't need the kitchen area; and if they can afford a hotel/motel they should be able to afford a studio apartment. Sorry, I don't buy your argument.

24. mmmarvel Follow Befriend (4) 104 comments

    24   2:10pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   joshuatrio says To us, $7 to eat out fast food is unacceptable. It's expensive, and it's junk. Agreed, and figure that $7 is for ONE MEAL for ONE PERSON, so for a family of four, father, mother, 13 year old girl and a 10 year old boy, let's figure the costs. Let's cut breakfast to each to $5 each, lunch at $7 each and dinner at $7 each that's a total of $19 a day per person or $76 a day for the family. You mean you can't buy groceries and fix wonderful meals (which include leftovers for lunches or the next night's dinner) for $76 a day??? Sheesh, I'd eat like a king on that kind of money and YES, I too saw 'families' (mostly families of color) who came home EVERY NIGHT with 'dinner' from MickyDee's. Typically didn't see them toting a lunch bag when they left for work in the morning. No, either you take responsibility for your actions or you don't. MickeyDee's EVERY DAY is NOT taking responsibility.

25. mmmarvel Follow Befriend (4) 104 comments

    25   2:52pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   HRHMedia says bad news dude come Jan 2013 it starts all over again. we probably will be in a recession by xmas. ESPECIALLY if Obama is returned to the office. The man has been bad for the country and four more years will be four more years of horror. He has NO CLUE as to how to run a country, he only knows how to spend money we don't have; we'll spend our way out of this mess - yeah, sure.

26. joshuatrio Follow Befriend 41 threads 703 comments Monterey, CA

    26   3:48pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   mmmarvel says Agreed, and figure that $7 is for ONE MEAL for ONE PERSON, so for a family of four, father, mother, 13 year old girl and a 10 year old boy, let's figure the costs. Let's cut breakfast to each to $5 each, lunch at $7 each and dinner at $7 each that's a total of $19 a day per person or $76 a day for the family. You mean you can't buy groceries and fix wonderful meals (which include leftovers for lunches or the next night's dinner) for $76 a day??? For $76, I can pick up a four fat ribeye's, couple six packs of brew, a bag of potatoes and still have $20 left over for a few five dollar footlongs from subway... lol The idea that it's cheaper to eat fast food, or even tv dinner type/pre packaged processed foods over healthy foods makes me laugh. Our smoothie consumption costs exactly $45 a month - for two people. That works out to around .75 cents per person a day, for several pieces of fruit and vegetables to start the day off. This is a full breakfast. Usually consisting of celery, carrots, spinach, straw/blue/blackberrys, bananas, mangos, coconut etc.... Basically whatever is in season goes in the blender. It tastes good. Kids love it too. What about going out for breakfast? How much are egg mcmuffins... What about denney's, ihop? Lunch is even worse.. Dinner tops them all. Low quality, fast, processed food is expensive and terrible for you. HRHMedia says Fast food is not cheap food. It's just low quality food. You will end up paying for it so go high quality over speed and quantity. Never eat fast food or ANY PROCESSED FOODS EVER!. Exactly.

27. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    27   3:54pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   My strategy is to eat only expensive meat ($20+/lb) but eat a lot less meat in general. I love beet and celery juice.

28. Blurtman Follow Befriend 5 threads 123 comments

    28   7:21pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   It's also ignorance, and a lack of education. Plus, the fookers in Mexico, Spaniards and their half-breed descendants, own a lot of the land, and the disnefranchised. illiterate, poor Indians are flooding to the USA. We should send Mexico the bill.

29. Ceffer Follow Befriend 6 threads 648 comments Pleasanton, CA

    29   10:56pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   Let them eat beer, cigarrettes, drugs and lottery tickets. Wait, they are already eating beer, cigarettes, drugs and lottery tickets. Just keep the kids as pets until they are six or so and not cute anymore, then give them their own beer and cigarettes and tell them to get lost or join a gang. Save all the fresh veggies for the anorexic liberals who have such great ideas about spending everybody else's money. Maybe if they ate a juicy burger once in a while, they could think straight.

30. Vicente Follow Befriend (8) 204 threads 4,411 comments Davis, CA

    30   11:00pm Sun 15 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Is this the thread where we prop up "pretend poor people" and knock down those strawmen with all our might? Certainly looks like everyone here knows the story line about how poor people are fat, stupid, boozers, who don't know how to cook. Or they are eating "the wrong foods" and that's their problem.

31. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 416 threads 4,137 comments Baltimore, MD

    31   8:02am Mon 16 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Call it Crazy says Here's why: Big Mac - 550 Calories Large Fries - 500 Calories Large Coke - 310 Calories Ketchup Packet - 15 Calories Grand Total = 1,375 Calories for ONE meal.... I'm pretty sure that most of the fatties, and even most normal sized people are drinking diet sodas and have been for years.

32. joshuatrio Follow Befriend 41 threads 703 comments Monterey, CA

    32   8:33am Mon 16 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Zlxr says But unfortunately addictions are hard to beat and the children suffer for it. This is true - my wife and I have been giving financial counseling to another couple living check to check (who make more than I do). Starting with the grocery budget, it was out of control. Over $1000/month on food. With a little help from my wife and meal planning, they were able to cut food costs down to $80/week for a family of five. My point is, even with accountability, and checking in, and shopping with this family - to help them get their spending under control. They almost immediately reverted back to their old ways, buying junk/processed foods, soda. A lot of people would rather be broke, eating poorly - than have a little cash in the bank and on a healthy diet....

33. tdeloco Follow Befriend (2) 11 threads 218 comments San Jose, CA

    33   10:30am Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   http://www.gallup.com/poll/156806/one-four-mississippi-residents-struggle-afford-food.aspx

34. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 171 threads 4,211 comments Premium

    34   11:10am Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   People who eat solid meals - fruit, veg, deep greens, fish are much less hungry because they are actually nourished, a completely different state than being merely full. But a lot of that basket of items is getting pricey. What's left for people on severe budgets are ramen, bulk eggs, crappy chicken, pasta, pancake mix, rice and beans and, if you're lucky, some seasonal fruits and cheaper beef cuts like London Broil and dented can specials with real food in them like asparagus. Mostly, you're relegated to piles of starches when you're poor.

35. FortWayne Follow Befriend (13) 102 threads 3,764 comments

    35   11:27am Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   anon12366 says High taxation, high cost of living, highest foreclosure rate in the nation, grossly overpaid public servants and employees ($200k baby boomer lifeguards, $400k baby boomer firefighters), unlimited entitlements for illegal alien invaders, most "homeowners" underwater, insane real estate prices and a legislature whose policy goals for "affordable" housing consists of reinflation of the re bubble and multi-generational mortgage repayment terms. What can the democratic party do for you? In CA, all winners are are on a government gravy train. Of course there is a problem. The problem now is that they don't know how to prolong the pyramid scheme, it's starting to fall apart. There aren't enough new people joining their pension scam pyramid in order to actually pay for the unsustainable promises they bought with bribe money.

36. Ceffer Follow Befriend 6 threads 648 comments Pleasanton, CA

    36   11:34am Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Just put the tribbles in vita chambers full of MacDonald's grill fat and sperm, that way they can reproduce more efficiently. Each new tribble gets it's own vita chamber and a welfare check! It will only take a few months to bankrupt the entier world economy. If you are going to reward the behavior, may as well do it efficiently.

37. Carolyn C Follow Befriend 50 comments Pleasanton, CA

    37   4:00pm Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   What the world needs is equal work. Land is free, water free, resources free. Each person must work for themselves and family. Every person is to grow their own food, makes their own clothes, builds their own home and so on. Then there will be no fat people or people getting rich earning interest off the poor peoples labor. You will all have to get off your fat ass or your skinny greedy prejudice retarded as and take care of your own shit. Problem solved!