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Why Obama is winning and why he will win

By marcus   Follow   Mon, 16 Jul 2012, 5:43pm   4,183 views   55 comments
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If you don't think Obama is winning, check out what the money says.

http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_Pres12_WTA.cfm

(note: if you like Romneys chances you can get better than even money on the IEM for up to $500)

Wanna know the biggest reason why he will win ?

It's a page right out of the republican play book and it's one word. TAXES.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=AwYwdt8uLNA

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1. anon12366 Follow Befriend (2) 61 comments Palo Alto, CA

   16   9:19pm Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (4)   revenues: http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/fed_revenue_2012USrn they spent more than $6T. They spent $9T collected through revenue and an additional $6T on top of that, so $15T in 4 years. real estate is in a bubble. compare to 1999 prices in real dollar values, when the fed started "cooling off" the economy and expanding government. federal salaries? insane. they could not get those salaries (or those important-sounding titles) in the private sector coming from government. state salaries. wow. meter maids make $70k now. bus drivers, $150k. no wonder restaurant workers want 25% gratuities.

2. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   17   9:32pm Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike   Protected   anon, I asked you a direct question on what you posted in context. If you can't list $6 trillion in specific spending bills by Obama and the Democrats, you're a liar. This is not complicated. Most of us know the huge majority of deficit spending was actually spending bills passed under the Republicans, but perhaps you don't know this or don't care. However if you really do think Obama spent us into $6 trillion in debt, please show us the specifics of how he did it.

3. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 168 threads 5,100 comments

   18   11:31pm Tue 17 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike (1)   iwog says If you can't list $6 trillion in specific spending bills by Obama and the Democrats, you're a liar. I don't think he understands the question. He doesn't understand that spending initiated by Bush, on wars, medicare part D, and tax cuts, and much more continued during Obama's time in office. What do you think ? Is it that he's incapable of understanding, or just that he's one of those who believes whatever he wants. I say tough call, but probably the former.

4. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

   19   5:36am Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (6)   Obama would NOT have been the first president in History to undo previous Administration's BAD policy. IN FACT! Failure to do so, suggests ownership. And that my Friends is the difference in common sense, and Bull Shit. IMO There wasn't one single red cent spent by Bush in 2011.

5. StoutFiles Follow Befriend (1) 24 threads 557 comments

   20   6:04am Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   marcus says Also, virtually every presidential election is won by the guy that people like the most. It may be shallow, but it's true. Whis is why Al Gore won the presidency when he won the popular vote! Wait...

6. edvard2 Follow Befriend 34 threads 2,116 comments

   21   6:20am Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says He's the Person the Liberal propaganda machine marketed to run against Obama, I'm voting for him, because who am I, do deny the Democrats their wish? Really? That's sort of funny given the HUGE amount of money and emphasis being thrown at this election cycle from various right-leaning financial and media concerns. This non-stop mention of "Liberal media" and "Liberal Propaganda" carries little weight these days given the enormous success of commercial right wing media, sold lock stock and barrel to millions of Americans every day. I can't think of anything more commercialized than right wing media.

7. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   22   6:23am Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   Protected   CaptainShuddup says Obama would NOT have been the first president in History to undo previous Administration's BAD policy. IN FACT! Failure to do so, suggests ownership. Bullshit. Failure to do so suggests that Republicans in congress are preventing all new legislation no matter how beneficial to the country. That's the theory. So what's the actual practice? Well what do you fucking know!!!!

8. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

   23   9:12am Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   anon12366 says real estate is in a bubble. compare to 1999 prices in real dollar values, when the fed started "cooling off" the economy and expanding government. It's hard to say we're still in an RE bubble. A bubble is when everyone is talking about how they are making tons of free money from RE. I haven't heard such talk since 2006. It's pretty tough to blame Obama for the housing bubble that happened long before he was elected. Obama has his faults but the housing bubble surely isn't one of them. Let's stay sane out there.

9. Randy H Follow Befriend (5) 44 threads 4,602 comments Los Altos, CA Premium

   24   3:22pm Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   PPete says Considering that Obama extended all of the Bush policies and added some of his own, doesn't he by default take ownership of those "failing" policies? If so then we have a failing president who is doing even worse than the previous "failing" president. We must vote him out and replace him with another president who will reverse Obama's policies and then Bush's policies to get back to a sense of "normalcy". Normalcy being???? Clinton's policies? Be wary of weaving a logical argument which leads you into self contradiction.

10. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 168 threads 5,100 comments

    25   3:39pm Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   CaptainShuddup says And that my Friends is the difference in common sense, and Bull Shit. IMO There wasn't one single red cent spent by Bush in 2011. Nominated. iwog says Bullshit. Failure to do so suggests that Republicans in congress are preventing all new legislation no matter how beneficial to the country. This may be the very simplest thing I have ever seen Tot fail to understand.

11. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 168 threads 5,100 comments

    26   3:42pm Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   The biggest Bush spending that is still occurring with Obama is the Bush tax cuts. Does the good CAptain actually believe that Obama could have undone those.

12. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    27   7:34pm Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected   Ruki says Even the NY Times is admitting Obama is screwed because of the economy. Wake up time for you Kool-Aide drinkers here on p-net. There are no NY Times articles claiming Obama is screwed neither are there any NY Times articles predicting Romney will win in November. You're just making shit up again. The last official NY Times poll has Obama and Romney statistically tied within 1% but Obama winning the electoral college. People casting a vote for Romney because they are worried about the economy are like people voting for a pyromaniac to run the fire department. We are operating under Bush economic policies NOW and Romney will do nothing other than double down on the exact same policies.

13. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    28   7:37pm Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   i'm still hooked on the 9 9 9 plan.... wuz lookin forward to government pizza...

14. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 2,851 comments

    29   8:11pm Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   wthrfrk80 says t's hard to say we're still in an RE bubble. A bubble is when everyone is talking about how they are making tons of free money from RE. I haven't heard such talk since 2006. It's pretty tough to blame Obama for the housing bubble that happened long before he was elected. Obama has his faults but the housing bubble surely isn't one of them. Let's stay sane out there. we are still very much in a RE bubble.. why ? since 2009 we had a "mortgage meltdown",,, you dont hear the media talk about a correction. as if the bubble prices were still justified and will recover/return. .. you dont hear Franks and Dodds admitting there was a bubble either... to them its a mortgage and wall street problem.. the home price appreciation t o them and the rest of the liberals was acceptable. I expect even direct denial by many withing 7-10 years there was ever a housing bubble.

15. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 2,851 comments

    30   8:14pm Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   PPete says Considering that Obama extended all of the Bush policies and added some of his own, doesn't he by default take ownership of those "failing" policies? If so then we have a failing president who is doing even worse than the previous "failing" president. yes that is true.. and the libs .. see above are all over this!!! unable to find a viable solution.

16. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    31   8:16pm Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   Protected   thomaswong.1986 says we are still very much in a RE bubble.. why ? since 2009 we had a "mortgage meltdown",,, you dont hear the media talk about a correction. as if the bubble prices were still justified and will recover/return. .. you dont hear Franks and Dodds admitting there was a bubble either... to them its a mortgage and wall street problem.. the home price appreciation t o them and the rest of the liberals was acceptable. I expect even direct denial by many withing 7-10 years there was ever a housing bubble. Almost every piece of media I've ever read about the housing crash admits it was a bubble. "real estate bubble" on Google gets over 1.3 million hits. For some reason you want to argue the sky is green, but it's not. It's blue.

17. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    32   8:29pm Wed 18 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   iwog says For some reason you want to argue the sky is green, but it's not. It's blue. "That depends on what your definition of 'blue' is" --Bill Clinton

18. PockyClipsNow Follow Befriend 19 threads 1,534 comments Los Angeles, CA

    33   12:20pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   who is taller? the tallest guy usually wins. Also 'best hair' counts. remember people - women are half the swing voters.

19. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    34   12:36pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected   Ruki says That's a BIG ASS shift. And what is the number one issue with voters now? The ECONOMY. The problem isn't the fact you described a big ass shift, the problem is you described the NY Times saying Obama is screwed and the NY Times saying Romney was going to win the election. Shrek: "Orange!" Iwog: "Bullshit it's not Orange." Shrek: "You're flat out wrong, see look at this, Apple!" Christ Shrek, can't you even have simple conversations anymore?

20. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    35   12:36pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   PockyClipsNow says who is taller? the tallest guy usually wins. Also 'best hair' counts. Sad isn't it?

21. bdrasin Follow Befriend 6 threads 490 comments Alameda, CA

    36   12:37pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   PockyClipsNow says who is taller? the tallest guy usually wins. Also 'best hair' counts. remember people - women are half the swing voters. If you want that quantified... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heights_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_and_presidential_candidates#Statistical_breakdown I don't think Romney will win; he's just too plastic and creepy. But he is an inch or so taller than the current president, and he does have VERY good hair.

22. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    37   12:37pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected   Ruki says Which is why they voted for a community organizer with piss-poor executive skills in 2008. Yes, that is so. Those piss poor executive skills accomplished more against terrorists in 2 years than Bush accomplished in 8, and got the Iraq war concluded as a bonus. But then your handlers have already forbidden you to talk about national security anymore haven't they.

23. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    38   12:37pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   iwog says Christ Shrek, can't you even have simple conversations anymore? No. That's why the "ignore" feature is such a wonderful thing.

24. PockyClipsNow Follow Befriend 19 threads 1,534 comments Los Angeles, CA

    39   12:49pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   If romney 'wasnt so rich' he would have a better chance. Which is also sad. But maybe the really good hair will cancel that out. Electoral college swing voter purple states makes this a crazy game!!!!!

25. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    40   7:17pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected   Ruki says Show us Bin Laden's body or photographic proof thereof. Nominated.

26. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    41   7:33pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   Wow. So now in addition to the "Truthers" and "Birthers", we have "Not-Deaders." And I thought MY tin foil hat was on too tight!

27. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    42   12:51am Fri 20 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Ruki says Show us Bin Laden's body or photographic proof thereof. Shrek, come now we both know that any photographic/video evidence can be faked. Nothing short of the opportunity to dry-hump Bin Laden's body is going to convince a Not-Deader. Well... maybe a Not-Deader would be convinced if Glen Beck or Hannity got to do the dry-humping and then reported that Ben Laden was indeed dead.

28. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 168 threads 5,100 comments

    43   1:48am Fri 20 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   iwog says Christ Shrek, can't you even have simple conversations anymore? Are you implying that he could before ?

29. bdrasin Follow Befriend 6 threads 490 comments Alameda, CA

    44   9:37am Fri 20 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   leoj707 says Well... maybe a Not-Deader would be convinced if Glen Beck or Hannity got to do the dry-humping and then reported that Ben Laden was indeed dead. That's an image that I didn't need in my head...

30. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 416 threads 4,138 comments Baltimore, MD

    45   11:36am Fri 20 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (4)   Speaking of OBAMA 1 First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, Then deny he was a foreigner. ╴ 2 First President to have a social security number from a state he Has never lived in. ╴ 3 First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date Nights and╴ Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends Paid for by the taxpayer. ╴ 4 First President to preside over a cut to the╴ credit-rating of The United States. ╴ 5 First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) For his╴ wife. ╴ 6 First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for╴ $102,000 a Year at taxpayer expense . ╴ 7 First President to repeat the Holy Quran tells us the early Morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most Beautiful sound on earth. ╴ 8 The First President to violate the War Powers Act. . ╴ 9 First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally Obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. ╴ 10 First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease Implementing the Health Care Reform Law. ╴ 11 First President to require all Americans to purchase a product From a third party. ╴ 12 First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ Jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs. ╴ 13 First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control Of companies to his union supporters. ╴ 14 First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act Through executive fiat. ╴ 15 First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped The deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including Those with criminal convictions. ╴ 16 First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one Of his political appointees. ╴ 17 First President to terminate America ‘s ability to put a man in Space. ╴ 18 First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without Being present. ╴ 19 First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law Unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it!!!! ╴ 20 First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly Spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases. ╴ 21 First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which State it is allowed to locate a factory. ╴ 22 First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an Oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN). ╴ 23 First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had Been properly issued years ago. ╴ 24 First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri -Corps for Catching one of his friends in a corruption case. ╴ 25 First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials In his office. ╴ 26 First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a Half years in office, 90 to date. ╴ 27 First President to hide his medical, educational and travel Records. ╴ 28 First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to Earn it. ╴ 29 First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’. ╴ 30 First President to take a 17 day vacation.

31. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    46   11:41am Fri 20 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   zzyzzx says First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to Earn it. He earned it by being the Second Coming of Christ. Duh!

32. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 168 threads 5,100 comments

    47   12:00pm Fri 20 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   zzyzzx says 30 First President to take a 17 day vacation Sadly zzyzzx isn't the first right wing moron to gleefully lap up these kind of half truths to total lies from the purveyors of propaganda. Given a left right political scale with 0 being far left end and and 10 being the extreme right end, most of our politicians are between 6 and 9. We have about 3 politicians below 4.5 If you find yourself politically below 7.5 on the scale and you also aren't a racist retard, just feel sorry for zzyzzx. If you're religious, say a prayer for him, that he might have less ignorance and hatred in his life.

33. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 168 threads 5,100 comments

    48   12:02pm Fri 20 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)

34. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    49   12:04pm Fri 20 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Ruki says Shrek your imaginary friend? Hmmm...yes...Shrek probably is imaginary....

35. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    50   12:46pm Fri 20 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   marcus says If you're religious, say a prayer for him, that he might have less ignorance and hatred in his life. I tried praying to Schrodinger's Cat, but my prayers have gone unanswered.

36. bob2356 Follow Befriend 3 threads 2,498 comments

    51   7:20pm Sat 21 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   You guys really need a hobby other than creating lists.

37. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 168 threads 5,100 comments

    52   1:12am Sun 22 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   I liked that last list. Thanks HRH.

38. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 13 threads 2,226 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    53   9:04am Sun 22 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   wthrfrk80 says marcus says If you're religious, say a prayer for him, that he might have less ignorance and hatred in his life. I tried praying to Schrodinger's Cat, but my prayers have gone unanswered. I did that too. I thought I heard something but I couldn't be sure...

39. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 13 threads 2,226 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    54   9:36am Sun 22 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   HRHMedia says 35. Let Space Shuttle Die and Killed Planned Moon Mission: Allowed the expensive ($1 billion per launch), badly designed, dangerous shuttle program to make its final launch on July 8, 2011. Cut off funding for even more bloated and problem-plagued Bush-era Constellation program to build moon base in favor of support for private-sector low-earth orbit ventures, research on new rocket technologies for long-distance manned flight missions, and unmanned space exploration, including the largest interplanetary rover ever launched, which will investigate Mars’s potential to support life. 36. Invested Heavily in Renewable Technology: As part of the 2009 stimulus, invested $90 billion, more than any previous administration, in research on smart grids, energy efficiency, electric cars, renewable electricity generation, cleaner coal, and biofuels. 37. Crafting Next-Generation School Tests: Devoted $330 million in stimulus money to pay two consortia of states and universities to create competing versions of new K-12 student performance tests based on latest psychometric research. New tests could transform the learning environment in vast majority of public school classrooms beginning in 2014. With reference to #35: In addition to nuclear engineer my father had also spent a significant portion of his career in aerospace. One of his projects was the shuttle. He hated it! Yes it put food on the table thank you but in reality we taxpayers would have gotten far, far more for our tax dollars with disposable rockets. With reference to #36: More nuclear, less wind and solar please! Also Obama and Reid closed Yucca mountain after taxpayers had spent 12B on it. Not for technical or safety reasons just plain NIMBY politics. Bad Bad Bad! With reference to #37: The one thing one CAN say for W was he did do something about education. OK, No Child Left Behind had a few problems (that's your que marcus). But I have some firsthand personal experience with it myself. The California CSET qualification exam is IMHO a far superior test to its predecessor (SSET?) - the questions of the CSET require critical thinking and actual problem solving skills while the old test was just random data regurgitation. Time will tell if the health care reform bill will be to Obama what no child left behind was to W.

40. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 416 threads 4,138 comments Baltimore, MD

    55   6:21am Mon 23 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)

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