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By xrpb11a   Follow   Wed, 18 Jul 2012, 9:18pm   2,230 views   42 comments
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So Romney is 'accused' of shipping jobs overseas. He did. He made massive profits for himself and the companies he represented..He's a qualified EXPERT at it. He beat the system within the rules laid out.

So Romney is 'accused' of keeping money in offshore accounts to delay or evade paying US taxes for himself or the offshore companies he represented. He did. He mad massive profits for himself and the companies he represented. He's a qualified EXPERT at it. He beat the system within the rules laid out.

Most pundits say Romney is not qualified to run the country due to the above....

I say it is precisely why he IS qualified to run the country on the world stage. He has a proven track record of beating whatever system he is put into, within the rules of the system. He is our Expert Card Shark. Put him in the big cahuna's chair, negotiating all these trade agreements with China, et al.
When it was his responsibility to ship the jobs out, he was successful, and found a way...
Now, put him in a job where it is his responsibility to get them back.
Whoever he has worked for has flourished....Lets make him now work for the USA.

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1. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,646 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   3   5:28am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   thomaswong.1986 says Its simply remarkable how the media and crony journalism twists the facts... You've done nothing but run from the facts. Do you want to talk about American Pad & Paper now?

2. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 296 threads 5,260 comments

   4   6:18am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   iwog says sent many of the corporations he represented into bankruptcy. screwed many creditors by 50-98% of their investment, yet most of the time came out with a profit anyway. And that's just Solendra

3. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,646 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   5   6:25am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   CaptainShuddup says And that's just Solendra So you think the Solendra incident was horrible and a complete waste of money and bad management..............................therefore you're going to cast a vote for Romney who got rich on engineering several dozen Solendras? That makes sense. Do you think voting Republican is a mental disorder?

4. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 296 threads 5,260 comments

   6   6:40am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   iwog says Do you think voting Republican is a mental disorder? Do you think voting Democrat is a mental disorder? Yes and Yes! Nader should be on his 3rd term by now.

5. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,646 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   7   6:49am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   CaptainShuddup says Yes and Yes! Nader should be on his 3rd term by now. Why did you concentrate on my off-the-cuff insult instead of our conversation? If you're so unhappy with Solendra, why would you vote for someone who engineered Solendras for a living?

6. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

   8   6:50am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   So, what part of the statement of mine that you reference is a lie? http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jul/13/barack-obama/were-romneys-companies-pioneers-outsourcing/ iwog says xrpb11a says So Romney is 'accused' of shipping jobs overseas. He did. He made massive profits for himself and the companies he represented. Why are you lying about this? Romney sent many of the corporations he represented into bankruptcy. Romney screwed many of his creditors by 50-98% of their investment, yet most of the time came out with a profit anyway. You are yet another example of a Republican parroting Newscorp without having the slightest idea of what Romney actually fucking did!!!!!!! Why?

7. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 296 threads 5,260 comments

   9   6:54am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   iwog says If you're so unhappy with Solendra, why would you vote for someone who engineered Solendras for a living? The only difference in your statement and reality Iwog is... Obama is for realzies, where as you're conjecturing metaphorically. BUT make no mistake, Obama and his cabinet of "Cram and Jam bad policy down our throat" crooks, are the ones that gave Us Solendra. I'm sorry but the spin Cycle is broken you're just going to have to hang that shit out to dry. IN THE SUN! BWa ha ha ha

8. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,646 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   10   6:55am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   xrpb11a says So, what part of the statement of mine that you reference is a lie? You're kidding right? How does a bankrupt corporation earn "massive profits"? Romney as often as not destroyed the corporations he was involved in and sent them into bankruptcy. In other cases, he made them so poor they had to sell off assets just to stay alive. So I guess your main lie is that Romney earned massive profits for the companies he represented. He certainly earned massive profits for himself.

9. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

   11   6:55am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Who gives a rats ass what Romney made for himself..... That only proves he is good at it. What makes sense is putting our best card shark at the world table. Let him start making all this money for the USA....not china/russia/et al.. iwog says CaptainShuddup says And that's just Solendra So you think the Solendra incident was horrible and a complete waste of money and bad management..............................therefore you're going to cast a vote for Romney who got rich on engineering several dozen Solendras? That makes sense. Do you think voting Republican is a mental disorder?

10. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,646 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    12   6:59am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   CaptainShuddup says Obama and his cabinet of "Cram and Jam bad policy down our throat" crooks, are the ones that gave Us Solendra. How much money did Obama make on Solendra's bankruptcy? Romney fully intended to destroy the corporations he raped for profit, do you think Obama wanted to destroy Solendra or do you think Obama really did dream of a better solar cell? There's no spin here trout. You want a man in office who's a professional at destroying business for profit. Literally.

11. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    13   6:59am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Great. He's good at it. Now lets let him do it to China, since they've been screwing the USA over with their trade imbalances and currency manipulation. iwog says Romney sent many of the corporations he represented into bankruptcy. Romney screwed many of his creditors by 50-98% of their investment, yet most of the time came out with a profit anyway.

12. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,646 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    14   7:00am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   xrpb11a says Who gives a rats ass what Romney made for himself..... That only proves he is good at it. What makes sense is putting our best card shark at the world table. Let him start making all this money for the USA....not china/russia/et al.. Again it's clear you have no fucking idea what Romney actually did and you don't have any intention of finding out. Romney "made money" by finding cheap corporations with good credit, buying them, borrowing them into bankruptcy, and leaving before they collapsed. Is this what you want for America?

13. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    15   7:02am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I think having a duck as an avatar is a mental disorder... iwog says CaptainShuddup says Do you think voting Republican is a mental disorder?

14. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    16   7:04am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   No. That is what I want for China/Russia/Iran. iwog says xrpb11a says Who gives a rats ass what Romney made for himself..... That only proves he is good at it. What makes sense is putting our best card shark at the world table. Let him start making all this money for the USA....not china/russia/et al.. Again it's clear you have no fucking idea what Romney actually did and you don't have any intention of finding out. Romney "made money" by finding cheap corporations with good credit, buying them, borrowing them into bankruptcy, and leaving before they collapsed. Is this what you want for America?

15. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    17   7:13am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Your problem is that you don't realize what a weapon Romney could be, when the USA is his 'company', and russia/china/iran are the 'cheap corporations'. You want to punish Romney for what you think he may have done wrong in the past, without any thought as to what harnessing those skills and deploying them on the world stage would do for the USA in this time of near global economic collapse. Your puny mind apparently can only function on a limited scale.... But that's ok....I'll cover for ya.. iwog says xrpb11a says Who gives a rats ass what Romney made for himself..... That only proves he is good at it. What makes sense is putting our best card shark at the world table. Let him start making all this money for the USA....not china/russia/et al.. Again it's clear you have no fucking idea what Romney actually did and you don't have any intention of finding out. Romney "made money" by finding cheap corporations with good credit, buying them, borrowing them into bankruptcy, and leaving before they collapsed. Is this what you want for America?

16. thunderlips11 Follow Befriend (13) 61 threads 2,705 comments Premium

    18   8:24am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   xrpb11a says Great. He's good at it. Now lets let him do it to China, since they've been screwing the USA over with their trade imbalances and currency manipulation. Can't do that. Foreigners can't buy majorities in Chinese Corporations. China generally permits only joint ventures.

17. rdm Follow Befriend 4 threads 241 comments

    19   8:48am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   thunderlips11 says Can't do that. Foreigners can't buy majorities in Chinese Corporations. China generally permits only joint ventures. That's right, Romney was successful in this country due his ability to create and or use a business model based on the laws and basic structures of the USA economy. The business of business is to make money, job creation/destruction is a side affect not a goal. I will grant you it was a complex business and Romney is/was a sharp, competent biz guy, that as I listen to him speak is what he is "grounded" in, where he feels comfortable. If that's is what you want for President he is your man among the two choices.

18. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    20   9:06am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   As president he would not be in the position to do what he did at Bain. I am referring to his "killer instinct" as a businessman. Put that skillset to work for the USA. thunderlips11 says xrpb11a says Great. He's good at it. Now lets let him do it to China, since they've been screwing the USA over with their trade imbalances and currency manipulation. Can't do that. Foreigners can't buy majorities in Chinese Corporations. China generally permits only joint ventures. Homo Economicus. A Legendary Creature, like Bigfoot, claimed to exist by Pseudoscientists.

19. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    21   9:13am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I think the 'times' should dictate whether we vote for what we 'want' for president versus what we 'need' for president. There's a time for idealism, and a time for action. rdm says thunderlips11 says If that's is what you want for President he is your man among the two choices.

20. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 171 threads 5,202 comments

    22   10:34am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   xrpb11a says I am referring to his "killer instinct" as a businessman. Put that skillset to work for the USA. He would be putting those skills to work for his friends, in much the way that GWB and Cheney were partially interested in their friends at Haliburton and other oil companies when they backed the BS neocon strategies in Iraq. The president can help direct resources. OBama's goal of directing resources to sustainable energy sources was mostly about a belief in government investment helping us compete in that growing sector. It might not have been so prudently planned. I'm not saying there is no problem there whatsoever. Unfortunately China and several other countries are kicking our ass in solar. Why do you think that is ? Does it have anything to do with how cozy oil and coal companies are with our government, the extent to which they are basically shareholders in our government ? Between Obama and Romney which one do you think is more likely to be all about enriching or otherwise taking care of their friends ? Which one is more about positive change ?

21. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 171 threads 5,202 comments

    23   10:37am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Nice graphs comparing Solendra to miltary boondoggles. http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/solyndras-loan-guarantee-vs.-military-boondoggles/

22. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 171 threads 5,202 comments

    24   10:42am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Compare Enron to Solyndra. The only difference is that Enron was just friends of the admin. Solendra was an idealistic attempt to improve our energy future, both economically and with green tech. But yes friends (crony factor) were involved. Where were Sean Hannity’s calls for an investigation of the Enron scandal involving millions of dollars in campaign contributions to George Bush, U.S. Sen. Phil Gramm and other members of Congress? Enron Corp. received $1.2 billion in government-backed loans to help build power plants. Where was the right’s condemnation of the cozy relationship between the Bush White House and Enron that enabled Kenneth Lay, then Enron's CEO, to meet with Dick Cheney to help mold the nation's energy policy? Details of Cheney’s talks with Enron officials remained secret, but a memo outlining the discussions revealed the extent to which Enron lobbied to influence government policy. http://www.examiner.com/article/solyndra-is-no-scandal-compared-to-bush-cheney-s-enron-fiasco

23. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 296 threads 5,260 comments

    25   10:58am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Captain Says Compare Hitler to Stalin. The only difference is that Hitler was just friends of the admin. Stalin was an idealistic attempt to improve the energy future, both economically and with Scythe and Sickle. But yes friends (crony factor) were involved. Edited after admonishment.

24. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    26   11:07am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Any president will be more likely to be all about enriching or otherwise taking care of their friends. ( except carter ) To believe the "positive change" mantra is very ostrich-like... http://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=6874 marcus says Between Obama and Romney which one do you think is more likely to be all about enriching or otherwise taking care of their friends ? Which one is more about positive change ?

25. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 171 threads 5,202 comments

    27   11:15am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   CAptainDB: please don't put words I didn't say in to a supposed quote from me. CaptainShuddup says You might think I'm obnoxious. I don't give a rat's ass.

26. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 171 threads 5,202 comments

    28   11:24am Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   CaptainDB. MAybe you should have read when I clearly and explicitly (something you should look in to)said, regarding Solendra: marcus says I'm not saying there is no problem there whatsoever.

27. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    29   12:02pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   where I play golf there's duck crap all over the fairways.... ducks and crap are synonymous... Ruki says iwog says therefore you're going to cast a vote for Romney who got rich on engineering several dozen Solendras? He didn't engineer Solyndras. To do that he had to have or be an inside man in the Obama Administration and used that position to get taxpayer money for a bogus business model that private investors would never touch with their own money. Bain took over companies that were already in trouble. Romney nor Bain put them into said trouble. The bullshit Iwog types these days... Obey The Tripods

28. Ceffer Follow Befriend 6 threads 690 comments Pleasanton, CA

    30   12:09pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Romney is the son of a politician who observed the best ways to manipulate the economy and the political system, but didn't have the time to apply the lessons in his own life. So, he tutored his son to do it with great success. Romney is the heir designated "rent taker" spawned by our system of politics and lobbying. He never would have been successful on his own. Sort of like Joseph Kennedy becoming a bank regulator simply for the purpose of learning what he could get away with. On the other hand, Obama's net worth has quintupled since he took office? Why is it that politicians who are financial failures in every other walk of life suddenly become financial geniuses as soon as they take office? Follow the money, but nobody ever does to find out how these briberies take place under the radar.

29. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    31   12:36pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Now we are getting somewhere.... Ceffer says Romney is the son of a politician who observed the best ways to manipulate the economy and the political system, but didn't have the time to apply the lessons in his own life. So, he tutored his son to do it with great success. Romney is the heir designated "rent taker" spawned by our system of politics and lobbying. He never would have been successful on his own. Sort of like Joseph Kennedy becoming a bank regulator simply for the purpose of learning what he could get away with. On the other hand, Obama's net worth has quintupled since he took office? Why is it that politicians who are financial failures in every other walk of life suddenly become financial geniuses as soon as they take office? Follow the money, but nobody ever does to find out how these briberies take place under the radar.

30. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,646 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    32   12:40pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Ruki says 1) That's a completely inaccurate and disingenous description of what he did. Which is why you run away screaming every time I bring up specific examples. Over and over again..........

31. rdm Follow Befriend 4 threads 241 comments

    33   1:05pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   xrpb11a says On the other hand, Obama's net worth has quintupled since he took office? Why is it that politicians who are financial failures in every other walk of life suddenly become financial geniuses as soon as they take office? Follow the money, but nobody ever does to find out how these briberies take place under the radar. Obama's finances are pretty much an open book (he has released his tax returns unlike Mitt) there has been no indication he has increased his wealth in any illegal way, since becoming President. I recall before he was elected there was some mini-scandal regarding his house or lot next to his house in Chicago. That was about it, he doesn't really seem driven by money, some people aren't. His wealth has increased primarily from books he has written. Clinton is now quite wealthy and it always seemed to me he had more corruptible persona than Obama but I dont believe he acquired his wealth while being President. Becoming President makes you a celebrity and book deals and speaking engagements flow forth.

32. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,646 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    34   1:11pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   xrpb11a says Who gives a rats ass what Romney made for himself..... That only proves he is good at it. What makes sense is putting our best card shark at the world table. Let him start making all this money for the USA....not china/russia/et al.. What in hell does any of this have to do with you lying about Romney's record?????????? You change the argument to agree with your preconceived conclusions. First it was "Romney made money for himself and his investments." When I point out this is bullshit, suddenly it's "Romney is a shark with killer instincts we can all use!" Do you have any intellectual integrity at all? Doesn't look like it.

33. Honest Abe Follow Befriend (41) 91 threads 1,806 comments

    35   1:16pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Quack-Quack = I love your repeated personal attacks on anyone who chooses to have a discourse with you. Nothing new here - move along.

34. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 296 threads 5,260 comments

    36   1:20pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   marcus says CAptainDB: please don't put words I didn't say in to a supposed quote from me. CaptainShuddup says You might think I'm obnoxious. I don't give a rat's ass. I apologize Marcus I was trying to satirize your post. I should have done it with literal quotes, and not the block quote (X) "Says" forum format.

35. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,646 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    37   1:29pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Honest Abe says Quack-Quack = I love your repeated personal attacks on anyone who chooses to have a discourse with you. Nothing new here - move along. There aren't any Republicans having a discourse with me. None of you have any intention of answering any questions about anything. What will Romney do to improve the economy? (crickets) See? Total failure every time.

36. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    38   1:32pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I see my little duck shit picture had the desired effect...LOL iwog says xrpb11a says Who gives a rats ass what Romney made for himself..... That only proves he is good at it. What makes sense is putting our best card shark at the world table. Let him start making all this money for the USA....not china/russia/et al.. What in hell does any of this have to do with you lying about Romney's record?????????? You change the argument to agree with your preconceived conclusions. First it was "Romney made money for himself and his investments." When I point out this is bullshit, suddenly it's "Romney is a shark with killer instincts we can all use!" Do you have any intellectual integrity at all? Doesn't look like it.

37. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    39   1:35pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I don't know what you are talking about. What 'lie'?? Honest Abe says Quack-Quack = I love your repeated personal attacks on anyone who chooses to have a discourse with you. Nothing new here - move along.

38. Ceffer Follow Befriend 6 threads 690 comments Pleasanton, CA

    40   1:35pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   "His wealth has increased primarily from books he has written. Clinton is now quite wealthy and it always seemed to me he had more corruptible persona than Obama but I dont believe he acquired his wealth while being President. Becoming President makes you a celebrity and book deals and speaking engagements flow forth." So you are saying the bribery takes place by subsidizing book deals and speaking engagements, with lots of free promotion and publicity? Gee, it's so simple, even a Republican can do it!

39. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    41   1:36pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   oops. wrong quote! iwog says xrpb11a says Who gives a rats ass what Romney made for himself..... That only proves he is good at it. What makes sense is putting our best card shark at the world table. Let him start making all this money for the USA....not china/russia/et al.. What in hell does any of this have to do with you lying about Romney's record?????????? You change the argument to agree with your preconceived conclusions. First it was "Romney made money for himself and his investments." When I point out this is bullshit, suddenly it's "Romney is a shark with killer instincts we can all use!" Do you have any intellectual integrity at all? Doesn't look like it.

40. rdm Follow Befriend 4 threads 241 comments

    42   2:27pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Ceffer says So you are saying the bribery takes place by subsidizing book deals and speaking engagements, with lots of free promotion and publicity? Gee, it's so simple, even a Republican can do it! And they do, that's the system we have. Regan did it, G W Bush just did a preface and put his stamp of approval on a book called "The 4% Solution". Obama's books were written before he became President but absolutely benefited from him running and becoming President, but I dont think anyone ( well maybe you are) is claiming this is what "drove" him to running, nice side benefit though.

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