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Why Romney is winning and why he will win

By CaptainShuddup   Follow   Thu, 19 Jul 2012, 12:18pm   13,782 views   225 comments
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/226943-poll-romney-opens-up-big-lead-nationally

Mitt Romney has opened up 7 percent lead over President Obama nationally, according to the latest survey from conservative polling outlet Rasmussen.

Romney took 50 percent of the vote against Obama’s 43. It’s the first time Romney has hit 50 percent in the poll and is his largest lead over the president to date.

The disappointing jobs data released last week could be weighing the president down. Rasmussen found that only 38 percent of those polled said they approved of the president’s handling of the economy, versus 48 that disapproved.

Still, the poll could be an outlier, as most polls show a considerably tighter race. According to Gallup’s daily tracking poll, Romney holds only a 1 percent lead over Obama, while the president holds a one-point lead over Romney in the Real Clear Politics average of polls.

The RCP average includes Romney’s seven-point Rasmussen lead, as well as a few other potential outliers, including an Associated Press poll that shows Obama up by eight and a Reuters poll that shows Obama up by seven — both of which were released this week.

The Rasmussen daily tracking poll of 500 likely voters has a 3 percent margin of error.

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1. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 416 threads 4,138 comments Baltimore, MD

   186   12:18pm Fri 27 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll Friday, July 27, 2012 The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Mitt Romney attracting 49% of the vote, while President Obama earns support from 44%. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided. That's a 5 point lead for Romney!

2. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

   187   1:15pm Fri 27 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)   zzyzzx says (3%) prefer some other candidate That's code for I'll vote for the Jackass anyway, Obama's gots to GO!

3. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   188   11:09pm Fri 27 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected   CaptainShuddup says That's code for I'll vote for the Jackass anyway, Obama's gots to GO! Why? Oh never mind, I forgot that's a secret.

4. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   189   10:55am Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)   Protected   Why would I do that? I have no doubt that Rasmussen is reporting a lead for Romney just as I have no doubt that Rasmussen blew a Senate poll by 40 points. Rasmussen is the clown show of the polling industry. It doesn't matter anyway. Romney isn't going to win without Ohio, and Romney isn't going to win Ohio.

5. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

   190   11:20am Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   iwog says Why? It's a Citizen thing you wouldn't understand.

6. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   191   11:21am Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected   Ruki says The typical Iwog refrain: Ignore or cast meaningless aspersions when the truth is too damn inconvenient. The truth? You mean the truth of the Rasmussen poll? Are you having trouble reading this morning? I already said I totally agree that Rasmussen is putting out polling data showing Romney is in the lead. Of course if what you really mean is the truth of a Romney victory in November, I suggest you get a dictionary and look up what the word means. Ruki says And ALL illegals were departed from Georgia and ALL rich people would not pay taxes under the Ryan plan also? You're confused.

7. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   192   11:22am Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected   CaptainShuddup says It's a Citizen thing you wouldn't understand. No doubt. I will never understand why a voter like yourself would willingly cut his own throat. The worst nightmare you could ever imagine would be a Republican victory in November.

8. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

   193   11:30am Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)   Iwog, if things were worse under President Romney, Wow would you be able to tell? I mean really, is there anything left to fuck up?

9. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   194   11:39am Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   CaptainShuddup says Iwog, if things were worse under President Romney, Wow would you be able to tell? I mean really, is there anything left to fuck up? Again.......Romney WILL sign the Ryan act and virtually eliminate taxes from the aristocracy leaving YOU to pay the bills. Romney will nominate Supreme Court justices who will solidify corporate power and reaffirm 1 dollar, 1 vote. Romney will increase military spending and launch a pre-emptive strike on Iran to make sure he's a two-termer like Bush. Is there anything left to fuck up? You haven't seen anything yet.

10. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    195   11:54am Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   Ruki says No I'm not. YOU FALSELY claimed that ALL illegal aliens in Georgia were deported. I claimed no such thing and you're a liar. You made some silly claim about not being Shrek and digging up old posts to find me making this claim, so it should be very easy for you to link it. Waiting.......

11. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    196   11:59am Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   Ruki says Here we go again. Nevermind that history has repeatedly shown that tax receipts from the top 10% have RISEN then their taxes on investment income have been dropped but FALL when the opposite happens. Totally false which is why you'll never show any support for this lunacy. Besides the claim that a 0% tax on capital gains is going to increase tax receipts from capital gains is screwy even for you. Ruki says As it should be, given all the freeloaders who outvote the productive in our society and the huge mess that created. Because someone who works 40 hours a week and earns .01% of what a trust baby earns sitting on his ass makes him a freeloader, right Shrek?

12. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

    197   12:07pm Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)   iwog says Romney will increase military spending and launch a pre-emptive strike on Iran to make sure he's a two-termer like Bush. How will that happen if he would be so terrible? As far as pre-emptive strikes, aren't you the one touting Obama as an efficient Terrorist killer. He uses drone strikes with out any agreement with any committee of sorts. Albeit National or International collaboration. Obama fires at will with more impunity than G.W. Bush. Plus he takes credit for other people's kill.

13. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    198   12:11pm Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   CaptainShuddup says As far as pre-emptive strikes, aren't you the one touting Obama as an efficient Terrorist killer. He uses drone strikes with out any agreement with any committee of sorts. Albeit National or International collaboration. Obama fires at will with more impunity than G.W. Bush. Plus he takes credit for other people's kill. This is far superior in every conceivable way to what Bush did. 1. Cheaper by several orders of magnitude 2. Fewer innocent lives lost by several orders of magnitude 3. We actually kill the bad guys instead of killing soldiers working for the bad guys 4. We create an image of the United States as the technologically superior country that can kill terrorists at will no matter where they are. 5. International relations suffer far less damage from a few unauthorized police actions than decimating an entire country.

14. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

    199   12:20pm Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)   Iwog my thick headed Avian friend. The Middle East is a bigger powder keg, than... um... then... Well ever!

15. bob2356 Follow Befriend 3 threads 2,498 comments

    200   12:33pm Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Ruki says Here we go again. Nevermind that history has repeatedly shown that tax receipts from the top 10% have RISEN then their taxes on investment income have been dropped but FALL when the opposite happens. Pure fantasy. This only happens in a very short window of about 3-6 months before and after a tax rate change when everyone hoards up their capital gains before a tax decrease or cashes out of capital gains before a tax increase. Longer term aka "history" it's not true at all. fail on this point.

16. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    201   1:04pm Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   CaptainShuddup says Iwog my thick headed Avian friend. The Middle East is a bigger powder keg, than... um... then... Well ever! Part of the reason it's a powder keg is that Republicans kill 100 Muslims every time a single American dies from a terrorist act. Stop voting for Republicans and maybe things will get better.

17. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    202   12:41pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   Ruki says I never claimed that it would. Yet more outright lying by Iwog. You said by lowering taxes via the Ryan act, tax receipts would increase. Since the Ryan act lowers taxes on all investments to zero, it's hard to see how you determined: Ruki says Nevermind that history has repeatedly shown that tax receipts from the top 10% have RISEN then their taxes on investment income have been dropped but FALL when the opposite happens. So what you're arguing here is lowering taxes (to zero) would increase tax revenues. I assume you're talking about a 100% increase on the 0% tax rate or something like that?

18. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 2,851 comments

    203   7:14pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says So what you're arguing here is lowering taxes (to zero) would increase tax revenues. I assume you're talking about a 100% increase on the 0% tax rate or something like that? to paraphrase.. lowering Capital Gains rates to zero will increase employment and thus create higher receipts from Fed and State income taxes... Is that your question and answer Iwog ?

19. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    204   8:56pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   thomaswong.1986 says iwog says So what you're arguing here is lowering taxes (to zero) would increase tax revenues. I assume you're talking about a 100% increase on the 0% tax rate or something like that? to paraphrase.. lowering Capital Gains rates to zero will increase employment and thus create higher receipts from Fed and State income taxes... Is that your question and answer Iwog ? Wow. Just wow........ Iwog: Apples. Thomas: You said Oranges, right Iwog? Lowering capital gains to zero will not increase employment and will not create higher receipts from federal and state income taxes. Furthermore the Ryan plan will reward oil speculators for making oil more expensive, it will reward grain speculators for making cereal more expensive, it will reward corporate raiders like Romney for raping and killing businesses, and it will reward landlords for making homes more expensive so how the fuck is any of this going to help create jobs?????? Do you know what creates jobs? Raising the minimum wage. It creates jobs by creating demand for products by consumers. Do you know what destroys jobs? Lowering the tax rate on billionaires because it gives all the liquid wealth to the hoarders.

20. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 2,851 comments

    205   9:13pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says Furthermore the Ryan plan will reward oil speculators for making oil more expensive, it will reward grain speculators for making cereal more expensive, they will hold it for a year.. 12 months.. your talking about "inventory for resale" which isnt investments! Sorry Charlie .. you need to look up what is investments!

21. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 2,851 comments

    206   9:17pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says it will reward corporate raiders like Romney for raping and killing businesses, wow! your once again your applying "Wall Street" the movie to real life.. which are a world apart... I doubt even Hollywood bothered to look up the FASB/SEC rules on M&A.

22. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 2,851 comments

    207   9:19pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says it will reward landlords for making homes more expensive so how the fuck is any of this going to help create jobs?????? I take it you have been following RE prices as it tanked over the past few years now! And your point is. ????

23. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 2,851 comments

    208   9:22pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says Do you know what creates jobs? Raising the minimum wage. OK.. your a union guy! Good luck with that! It certainly has never proved to work in Tech world like Silicon Valley, where prices of goods and services have fallen year over year and the products get 10x better.

24. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 2,851 comments

    209   9:26pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says Do you know what destroys jobs? Lowering the tax rate on billionaires because it gives all the liquid wealth to the hoarders. Again, i suggest you talk to some of Obamas good friends from Silicon Valley.. john doerr kleiner perkins and michael moritz form sequoia capital.. they will fill you in on how billionaires feed new business.. and more of hiring, capital equipment purchasing, feeding local, state, and federal taxes...

25. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    210   9:50pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected   iwog says Raising the minimum wage. LOL! Minimum wage only protects jobs with wages already well above the minimum. Jobs with natural wages below the minimum will be permanently destroyed. For example, if the restroom attendant at a department store has a market wage below the minimum wage (gratuity can be significant), he or she will no longer have a job. The bathroom will be smelly, and I will not want to shop there. It is a lose-lose-lose proposition. If we want to lower unemployment rate the best way is to abolish the minimum wage. Even air-dropping money from a helicopter will do less damage than having a minimum wage.

26. Bellingham Bill Follow Befriend 30 threads 1,488 comments Bellingham, WA Premium

    211   10:45pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   iwog says Lowering capital gains to zero will not increase employment Economy gained 20M jobs after the Clinton tax rise: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=98C 8M after the Bush tax cuts. Of course, it wasn't the Bush tax cuts that got the economy going again, it was the massive spike in borrowing 2001-2006 that floated that boat: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=98D red line is per-capita annual debt take-on. Over $10,000 per person per year, 2004-2008. Total scam economy; well done Republicans for finally reinstating your silly ideology and having it kill us again after 80 years off.

27. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    212   10:52pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected   Perhaps the Clinton boom has something to do with the Reagan tax cuts?

28. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    213   5:03am Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   thomaswong.1986 says they will hold it for a year.. 12 months.. your talking about "inventory for resale" which isnt investments! Sorry Charlie .. you need to look up what is investments! That's pretty much the main point here. The Ryan plan cuts taxes to zero on speculation.

29. Bellingham Bill Follow Befriend 30 threads 1,488 comments Bellingham, WA Premium

    214   10:51am Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Peter P says Perhaps the Clinton boom has something to do with the Reagan tax cuts? No. AFAICT the Clinton boom was thanks to the feel good times of the Soviet empire collapsing, cheap oil, PC take-up in business (and GUIs making them more productive than MS-DOS), the increasing globalization trend, rise of big-box retail stores, and the demographics of the baby boom (the median boomer was 35 in 1990), and the system having worked off the excess debt loads of the 1980s. I'd link to graphs but FRED is down now.

30. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 168 threads 5,100 comments

    215   10:58am Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Delurking says PC take-up in business (and GUIs making them more productive than MS-DOS) This and the advent of networking and email was more significant than many realize, in terms of productivity. Not to mention expectations about internet commerce and all the investment that was scaling up for that. We didn't expect to have flying cars in the 21st century, but there definitely was irrational exuberance out there.

31. rootvg Follow Befriend (8) 1 threads 792 comments Danville, CA Premium

    216   11:44am Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   iwog says Why would I do that? I have no doubt that Rasmussen is reporting a lead for Romney just as I have no doubt that Rasmussen blew a Senate poll by 40 points. Rasmussen is the clown show of the polling industry. It doesn't matter anyway. Romney isn't going to win without Ohio, and Romney isn't going to win Ohio. I predicted Ted Cruz to lose against David Dewhurst in Texas. It didn't happen. The tax initiative in Georgia got crushed as well. I spent some time in Atlanta and they NEED infrastructure there in the worst possible way but right now, the political winds are against it. November 6th is going to be an absolute fucking earthquake, on a level with the loss of 63 seats in the House all at once in 2010. That's fourteen percent of the entire body...gone, flipped to the other party, in a flash. Incredible!

32. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    217   2:17pm Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Ruki says I see your poor vocabulary prohibits you from distinguishing between the word 'lowering' and 'abolishing'. That explains a lot....especially this fucked up statement: Ahhh....now I understand!!!!!! You still haven't read the Ryan plan. All taxes on individuals are reduced to zero under the Ryan plan with one exception: Taxes on people who earn wages. Lowering is a fiction you made up. The correct term is abolishing. The Ryan plan abolishes all (yes all) taxes on investment. Therefore your argument is that lowering taxes on investment (your term) will increase tax revenue on investments. 1000% of 0% perhaps?

33. HEY YOU Follow Befriend (4) 334 threads 922 comments

    218   2:57pm Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Coulter: "If you don't run Chris Christie, Romney will be the nominee and we'll lose."

34. rootvg Follow Befriend (8) 1 threads 792 comments Danville, CA Premium

    219   3:02pm Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   HEY YOU says Coulter: "If you don't run Chris Christie, Romney will be the nominee and we'll lose." She knows better. That's what the Fox News, stir-up-shit-and-scream crowd wants to hear. It is NOT what the party establishment types want to hear and they're running things this time around. I'm fairly confident the VP nominee will be Portman. As far as Obama winning a second term is concerned, there's nothing I've seen so far that shows me it is possible. David Dewhurst is as establishment Republican as it gets and when he gets knocked off his pedestal you know something wild is gonna happen.

35. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 171 threads 4,220 comments Premium

    220   3:13pm Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   Romney will win because Americans who are not making nine-figure incomes are trained to believe they are worthless, evil scum and Romney loves reminding them of their heinous unworthiness. His last ads will hammer it home. "Fuck you, scum-sucking plebs, I own you. I'll chop you into bits and feed you to the pigs I feed to my horses and you'll thank Moroni for the honor. I'm Mitt Romney and approve of this timeless truth. Blow me. Or chew the smegma off my horses' gonads, if you're a guy." The teabaggers will vote in droves. He'll raise their taxes, FICA and eliminate social security to fund complete elimination of taxes for people making over 7 figures. Then he will sign an executive order rescinding the 13th and 14th Amendments and issue Executive Helicopter Hunting licenses for an unlimited cull of melanin enhanced non-voters before 2016 elections that Karl Rove will announce on Christmas Eve 2015 as OPERATION GHETTO STORM.

36. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    221   8:35pm Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   HEY YOU says Coulter: "If you don't run Chris Christie, Romney will be the nominee and we'll lose." Ann Coulter is one of the architects of the modern Republican party and a big reason why "Republican" is synonymous with "brain damage".

37. rootvg Follow Befriend (8) 1 threads 792 comments Danville, CA Premium

    222   9:53pm Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   iwog says HEY YOU says Coulter: "If you don't run Chris Christie, Romney will be the nominee and we'll lose." Ann Coulter is one of the architects of the modern Republican party and a big reason why "Republican" is synonymous with "brain damage". I've noticed we're not seeing as much of Ann lately. Someone high up has decided she should stay in her cage until the election is over...and I agree.

38. Bellingham Bill Follow Befriend 30 threads 1,488 comments Bellingham, WA Premium

    223   10:02pm Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   rootvg says As far as Obama winning a second term is concerned, there's nothing I've seen so far that shows me it is possible http://electoral-vote.com Romney has to cobble together 63 EVs from that map. FL, WI, OH give him 57, so he'd need CO or VA on top of those. And purity trolls allegedly on the left publicy whine on why Obama is so pro-military, LOL.

39. hrhjuliet Follow Befriend 7 threads 87 comments

    224   10:07pm Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Romney is a spoiled idiot who is owned by the corporations and doesn't care a tiny bit about the average citizen. Period. Not that I care for Obama as a second choice, but I'd rather have Obama than that twit of a man. I'm voting for Ron Paul, since Obama will win California by a landslide, so I can do that without feeling like I'm throwing my vote away.

40. rdm Follow Befriend 4 threads 239 comments

    225   11:41pm Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   rootvg says David Dewhurst is as establishment Republican as it gets and when he gets knocked off his pedestal you know something wild is gonna happen. Just another indication of the rightward movement of the republican base. This doesn't translate into a move rightward by the country as a whole, just an affirmation of a trend in the republican primaries. Latest polls show a tilt toward Obama in Ohio and Florida while Penn. is pretty much no longer in contention (if it ever was). In a quirk of fate some of the swing states have seen significant improvements in their economies verses the nation as a whole. Romney, ideas aside, is just a terrible politician and an un-likable plutocrat. It really is a amazing he got the nomination, that is until you look at his competition in the primaries.

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