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Why Romney is winning and why he will win


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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/226943-poll-romney-opens-up-big-lead-nationally

Mitt Romney has opened up 7 percent lead over President Obama nationally, according to the latest survey from conservative polling outlet Rasmussen.

Romney took 50 percent of the vote against Obama’s 43. It’s the first time Romney has hit 50 percent in the poll and is his largest lead over the president to date.

The disappointing jobs data released last week could be weighing the president down. Rasmussen found that only 38 percent of those polled said they approved of the president’s handling of the economy, versus 48 that disapproved.

Still, the poll could be an outlier, as most polls show a considerably tighter race. According to Gallup’s daily tracking poll, Romney holds only a 1 percent lead over Obama, while the president holds a one-point lead over Romney in the Real Clear Politics average of polls.

The RCP average includes Romney’s seven-point Rasmussen lead, as well as a few other potential outliers, including an Associated Press poll that shows Obama up by eight and a Reuters poll that shows Obama up by seven — both of which were released this week.

The Rasmussen daily tracking poll of 500 likely voters has a 3 percent margin of error.

Him draw bad card...

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  1. CaptainShuddup


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    1   12:38pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    I think the momentum is from folks like HRHMedia dominating the "Social Networks" and "Forums" and "News Discussions" with Romney bashing, because they can't list any positive attributes of Obama's first term legacy.

    And people don't want to hear "He created health care" or "It's a Start" it's more screwed up NOW, nobody gives a crap about what happens after 2014, we're all living now. And truth is Obamacare for now has made a bigger mess of a mess, and has placed a greater burden on Middleclass now, and hinders job growth now. That is the reality, all of the bitching doesn't muddy that dirty little fact.

    Not every in America aspires to be on the Social dole, like a prison inmate waiting for a Baloney sandwich and Jello. The highlight of their day, so I'm told.

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    The base dug it when Veteran Combat Hair Stylist Mittycakes gave the NAACP the finger and showed those muslims some white power attitude.

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    3   12:52pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    Ruki says

    Attention all Obamatards!

    At least you don't hide the fact you're a troll.

    Ruki says

    Please explain to the rest of us how it is possible that your Messiah is kicking Romney's ass when in fact he's neck to neck with him instead?

    Who said Obama is kicking Romney's ass? The most people have said is that Obama is slightly ahead and a bit more secure in the electoral college. Some of us have also predicted Obama will win.

    Ruki says

    Yet, Obama is being threatened by him big time and that trend seems to be getting worse.

    Those are not just facts...they are HUMILIATING facts.

    Putting "humiliating" after "those are just the facts" pretty much disqualify those as just being the facts. Back to simple trolling.

    Ruki says

    Your Messiah is in trouble. Big trouble. And no amount of 'Hope' and 'Change' bullshit hype is going to turn things around for him this time, either.

    Can we expect you'll change your screen name again and pretend to be someone else when you're wrong in November?

    I'm betting yes.

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    4   12:52pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    This election isn't about Romneys success, its about obama's failure. ALL the attacks and "noise" about Romney are simply diversions to distract attention from the massive failure of the obama agenda.

    America is far worse off for the working man (not the freeloaders) than when he took office. Unemployment, national debt, the American Dream, gas prices - everything is worse.

    The only increases are: foreclosures, gas prices, number of unemployed, those on food stamps, indentured dependents. Liberal policies yield negative results...but it "feels" so good.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    I think the momentum is from folks like HRHMedia dominating the "Social Networks" and "Forums" and "News Discussions" with Romney bashing, because they can't list any positive attributes of Obama's first term legacy.

    That's funny, because I can list them all day.

    - Excellent at killing terrorists.
    - Brought the Iraq war to a close.
    - Saved the country from a depression.
    - Prevented the Ryan act and pretty much every destructive idiotic piece of Republican sewage going through congress.
    - Nominated two Supreme Court Justices who didn't think anonymous unlimited campaign spending was constitutional speech.

    There are more, but this is probably enough to make your assertion look ridiculous.

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    Honest Abe says

    This election isn't about Romneys success, its about obama's failure.

    Only for pre-programmed Newscorp drones. To normal people, this is about Obama's successes and the Republican's repeated efforts to destroy the nation.

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    iwog says

    There are more, but this is probably enough to make your assertion look ridiculous.

    Its the economy stupid - Bill Clinton.

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    Ruki says

    I mean, Romney is the last candidate that most Republicans wanted and a virtual nobody to the rest of America

    You forgot the Liberal Media, they wanted him to win the primaries, really, really, really, really, REALLY, BAD. I hope Romney wins, and for all of the Shit he very well may unleash on the American democratic system, and hardships he will placed on the already rocked by Obama poor and middle class...

    Let this be a lesson for the Liberals...

    Don't Mess with Democracy.

    ...and Texas
    ...and around with Jim

    Those three things, you can mess around with every thing else...

    Well except other women when you're married to hot headed Latin woman.

    But almost every thing else.

    When you Black out suitable Candidates you get Herman Cain as a forerunner,

    When Herman Cain becomes forerunner, Michele Bachmann gets the spot light as the token Women.

    When Michele Bachman becomes the Republican hopeful, Rick Perry Deep throats a Corn dog.

    When Rick Perry deep throats a corn dog, Rick Sanatorium looks Smart.

    When Rick Sanatorium looks smart, people believe in Newt Gingrich.
    When people believe in Newt Gingrich, people believe anything is possible

    When people believe anything is possible Mitt Romney wins the Primaries.

    When Mitt Romney wins the Primaries, he beats Obama and becomes the president.

    Don't make Rick Perry eat a corn dog.

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    9   1:07pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)  

    You forgot the Liberal Media
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Such as Fox and Clear Channel? Nice try.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    Let this be a lesson for the Liberals...

    Wow seriously? If Romney wins, my taxes are going WAY down. I make about half of my income on capital gains + dividends and half of my income as a business owner. Romney is a wet dream as far as my bank accounts are concerned. I'm a proto-feudal lord in a property tax protected state. I win.

    I'm assuming you earn wages. If Romney wins, your taxes are going up. If your job doesn't get outsourced or replaced with Mexican labor, you'll be asked to give up all your benefits because the CEO of your company is going to grift off enough money to make it look like it's a necessary cost cutting move. The richest people in your city (and their children) will be exempt from taxes while you watch the government take a larger and larger % of your money away.

    The worst punishment for voting Republican this year is to win.

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    You're a business owner? But YOU didn't build that business - someone else did, right?

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    Honest Abe says

    You're a business owner? But YOU didn't build that business - someone else did, right?

    Wrong. I built this business, paying start up costs out of my wages at AT&T back in 1992. I've paid for everything, worked every position, and even attended hearings with clients. (paralegals can do this in bankruptcy)

    Again.....I contradict everything you think you know.

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    iwog says

    Wrong. I built this business, paying start up costs out of my wages at AT&T back in 1992. I've paid for everything, worked every position, and even attended hearings with clients. (paralegals can do this in bankruptcy)

    Well not according to Obama, how could you vote for someone that doesn't respect your hard work? Talk about defeating self interest.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    Well not according to Obama, how could you vote for someone that doesn't respect your hard work? Talk about defeating self interest.

    Yes, I defeat my short term interest in favor of my long term interest.

    Business sucks now. Other lawyers have abandoned their former practice in favor of bankruptcy so competition is crazy. No one has any money, but I'm doing fine because of my transition to landlordism and speculation in markets you hate so much.

    I want to save capitalism so I can earn money again. You want to destroy capitalism and force me to survive on hoarding.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    Well not according to Obama, how could you vote for someone that doesn't respect your hard work? Talk about defeating self interest.

    Sure, if your whole thought process consists of right-wing sound bites. Obama didn't say anything like that and it doesn't take a genius to see.

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    iwog says

    You want to destroy capitalism and force me to survive on hoarding.

    In the meantime Hon nuttin' for nuttin' But I'M not the one with a pen in my hand with the official Presidential seal on it.

    I want to save you from Obama, I'm voting Romney for YOUR own good.

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    bdrasin says

    right-wing sound bites. Obama didn't say anything like that and it doesn't take a genius to see.

    Right wing SOUNDBITES!?

    HRHMedia a Liberal schill that recently found his way to this board, quoted Obama saying that, no less than three times today, in various threads.

    Libs hate it when their own shit bites them in the Ass.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    I want to save you from Obama, I'm voting Romney for YOUR own good.

    Bullshit. I see no danger from Obama. My taxes aren't going up under Obamacare and I already pay for medical insurance for my employees.

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    Yeah but by your own admission you've been relegated to slinging shacks for a living.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    HRHMedia a Liberal schill that recently found his way to this board, quoted Obama saying that, no less than three times today, in various threads.

    No they didn't.

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    bdrasin - look for yourself.

    Iwog - you didn't build your business, someone else made that happen.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    Yeah but by your own admission you've been relegated to slinging shacks for a living.

    That's not what I said.

    Besides part of Obamacare is a tax increase on rental income. If I earn over $250,000, I'll get a tax increase on slinging my shacks.

    Not gonna happen with 8 properties, but I can dream.

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    Honest Abe says

    bdrasin - look for yourself.

    I know exactly what you are talking about; its just that its bullshit. Here's the whole quote:
    "Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges - if you've got a business, you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen."

    Any idiot can see that "that" in the sentence refers to "roads and bridges", not to the business itself. Duh!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YKjPI6no5ng

    Now that you have been corrected, you gonna drop this from your repertoire? Didn't think so. You probably also think that Al Gore claimed to have invented the Internet...

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    bdrasin says

    Any idiot can see that "that" in the sentence refers to "roads and bridges", not to the business itself. Duh!

    Well only Jesus should write in Parables. Everyone else is taken for face value, ESPECIALLY Politicians.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    Well only Jesus should write in Parables. Everyone else is taken for face value, ESPECIALLY Politicians.

    You're so disingenuous at times I doubt you care about anything at all.

    What's important to you besides cheap oil? Anything?

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    CaptainShuddup says

    bdrasin says

    Any idiot can see that "that" in the sentence refers to "roads and bridges", not to the business itself. Duh!

    Well only Jesus should write in Parables. Everyone else is taken for face value, ESPECIALLY Politicians.

    Saying that a successful businessman didn't build the roads/bridges/infrastructure on which he depends isn't a parable, it's an observation. You might want to look up that word.

    http://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk

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    bdrasin - that doesn't change anything. What he said was what he meant...if you got a business you didn't build that, someone else made that happen. Its all collective, liberal, commie hogwash.

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    Honest Abe says

    bdrasin - that doesn't change anything. What he said was what he meant...if you got a business you didn't build that, someone else made that happen. Its all collective, liberal, commie hogwash.

    Got it. If you built a business, it means that you also built all of the infrastructure which helped made your success possible, presumably through time travel. Anyone who doesn't believe that is a communist. Makes perfect sense.

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    If you think Romney will win you should open an account here:

    http://tippie.uiowa.edu/iem/index.cfm

    You can get a good deal. Here is the graph showing price history. Obama has been favored all along, but his chances have gone up since SCOTUS ruled on "Obamacare." Obama now looks the best he has looked since ROmney secured the nomination. Seriously open an account. It looks like Romney is close to .40 (worth $1.00 if Romney wins).

    http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_Pres12_WTA.cfm

    Money doesn't talk. It screams.

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    Also,...haha,....let's see what that graph looks like after the debates.

    Really, and I do mean this as serious advice. If you want to bet on Romney, and get good odds. Open an IEM account, and buy one third of your position right after each debate.

    But 1.5 to 1 odds you can get right now looks pretty good, if you want to believe the polls.

    Invest 500, and get back 750 (plus your 500) if Romney wins.

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    I would save quite a bit of money, if Rmoney wins. I now have 11 homes, soon to be 14, and his business tax ideas are much more friendly to someone like me, then Obama's.

    BUT, I got here, because education was reasonably priced, and between financial aid and work, plus scholarships, I was able to go to college and graduate school. I want a world where others have the opportunities I had, not what the US is becoming: A country like Brazil, where if you aren't born into a wealthy family, you can never achieve anything.

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    Here I found a bigger "book" on the election.

    http://sports.bovada.lv/sports-betting/political-props.jsp

    They have it about the same or Obama only slightly less favored but presumably you could put on a big bet at these price.

    In other words at a casino now you could bet 100 on Romney, and get back 140 (plus your 100), if Romney wins.

    If you want to bet on Obama you have to bet 170, to get back 100 (plus your 170).

    Why are those numbers different ? 140 versus 170 ? That's because of the book makers edge (profit). Split the difference and it's 155 (equivalent to about .39 on the IEM), even better than the current price on IEM.

    If I didn't know better, I would think that Rasmussen might be trying to pull a Barclays Libor move and get people to bet on Romney. Just kidding (I put this line to help Thomas.wong understand the libor scandal).

    What if the Casinos have taken too many bets globally with people betting on ROmney at these great odds ? It sure would relieve some of the pressure if Romney odds would improve at least for a while and they could lay off their risk with some cheaper bets on Obama. Then again, maybe the only reason odds are so good for Romney (for betting on Romney that is (odds against his winning)) is that too many people are betting on Obama.

    What if it's the billionares hedging. If the rich benefit as much as some think with a Romney win, shouldn't they be placing huge bets on Obama, to hedge ? MAybe that's the reason Obama is so far ahead with the money. The billionaires hedge.

    There's the reason for the BS polls. Billionaires are trying to swing "the market" to where they can put on their billionaires hedge bets at better prices.

    Stupid money....or is it ?

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    bdrasin says

    Saying that a successful businessman didn't build the roads/bridges/infrastructure on which he depends isn't a parable, it's an observation. You might want to look up that word.

    meanwhile further south down in the South Bay, it was the industries build by successful business and industry, which in turn created jobs and paid income taxes, federal state, sales and property and other tax which DID build the roads, infrastructure and hope for a better life fro many.

    Else we would still be farm lands... no different than Morgan Hill and Gilroy!

    We had the Ubber SF and East Bay created decades earlier than Santa Clara, but the govt mismanagement has left it a former shadow of itself. All the Big City govt wanted was more taxes and spending programs ... leaving a anti-business decaying economy!

    The Govts in SCC learned to stay out of the way of industries.. and the pay off worked.

    The stark difference between the Big Govt cities of SF-Oakland and the Growth Magnet of Santa Clara County.. is a good example of what can be done...

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    robertoaribas says

    A country like Brazil, where if you aren't born into a wealthy family, you can never achieve anything.

    I agree that's where the right wants to take us. Not that it's impossible for the truly gifted, but in the future we are headed toward, social mobility will be MUCH tougher. It will be much more difficult to even identify extremely gifted children, if they are poor.

    We are already way down the list on social mobility compared to many countries, including a couple where a complete education is free.

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    thomaswong.1986 says

    We had the Ubber SF and East Bay created decades earlier than Santa Clara, but the govt mismanagement has left it a former shadow of itself. All the Big City govt wanted was more taxes and spending programs ... leaving a anti-business decaying economy!

    The Govts in SCC learned to stay out of the way of industries.. and the pay off worked.

    The stark difference between the Big Govt cities of SF-Oakland and the Growth Magnet of Santa Clara County.. is a good example of what can be done...

    OK, at least your making a real argument rather than pretending that Obama said that business owners didn't create their own businesses - which he did not, and its obvious that he did not. You would have to be a liar to claim that he did.

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    I exaggererated the price for Romney based on the graph. Here is the current "market."

    http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/quotes/Pres12_quotes.html

    You would have to pay .431 if you put in a market order to buy Romney now. And who knows how many shares are offered at that price.

    As I said, if you want to bet on Romney, open an account, and buy Romney right after each debate.

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    Politicizing the roads on which commerce was built, when that's why there were built in the first place, is just pandering and grandstanding Bull Shit nothing else.

    But claiming that successful people didn't build their business on their own, with out the help of roads, in which they somehow owe Obama some part of his Grand scheme. Is telling stories.

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    38   7:33pm Thu 19 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    CaptainShuddup says

    Well only Jesus should write in Parables. Everyone else is taken for face value, ESPECIALLY Politicians.

    Amen. Lord Romney and LDS Kingdom forever!

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    More like delusional. That straight A student didn't do it on his own, someone else made that happen.

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    I only wish there were more difference between these two candidates. Supreme Court picks, sure. Some rights for some long-underserved groups, maybe.

    But in large part, the empire rolls on. Google "lily pad bases" if you don't believe it.

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