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Acceptable vs Unacceptable Comments


By Patrick   Follow   Sat, 21 Jul 2012, 11:23am   4,326 views   54 comments
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To help readers distinguish between what I consider acceptable and unacceptable comments, here are some examples:

"You're clueless" is OK.

"You suck" is not OK.

"You're no Jack Kennedy" is OK.

"Fuck you" is not OK.

"You don't know what you're talking about" is OK.

"Eat shit" is not OK.

"Not even a Mormon would believe that!" is OK.

"Kill the Mormons" is not OK.

"You've posted this crap several times now" is OK.

"Listen, shit for brains" is not OK.

"You're just making shit up" is OK.

"You libtard" is not OK.

"Liberals like you" is OK.

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  1. Peter P


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    Randy H says

    I couldn't find a real profile, so assumed the poster is another "anonymous coward", as Slashdot terms it. In such cases the gender of the personal pronoun is arbitrary, don't you think?

    I guess so. I usually use "he" as the personal pronoun because I can type one fewer key.

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    16   3:41pm Sat 21 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    And I second the appreciation for the "ignore" option. Massively improves my experience here. If only that had been an option 6 years ago.

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    Randy H says

    And I second the appreciation for the "ignore" option. Massively improves my experience here. If only that had been an option 6 years ago.

    I would have ignored Marina Prime and missed out.

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    Peter P says

    I guess so. I usually use "he" as the personal pronoun because I can type one fewer key.

    We could agree on "it", but I'm sure that would offend someone.

    I like Slashdot's old school usage of "AC" as the personal pronoun for anonymous cowards.

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    Peter P says

    I would have ignored Marina Prime and missed out.

    Actually not. You'll recall AC was banned several times and just kept reincarnating ACself.

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    Randy H says

    We could agree on "it", but I'm sure that would offend someone.

    I call pets "it" and people got upset. My cats never complained.

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    "Listen, shit for brains" is not OK."

    I agree. I'm tired of being talked about.

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    22   5:03pm Sat 21 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    What about calling a Realtor a Realtard?

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    I just attended a sexual Harassment course.
    Now I really know what I can get away with.

    Seriously. If you would NOT say it to your Daughter and it is not intended to satisfy a sixth grade revenge issue, It's probably O.K.

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    The most obscene thing I can imagine calling anyone is RealtorĀ®.

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    TMAC54 says

    If you would NOT say it to your Daughter and it is not intended to satisfy a sixth grade revenge issue, It's probably O.K.

    That's a good summary of acceptable comments!

    Ruki says

    How about "Libtards like you" then? Technically, that's ok according to the general pattern you've established, right?

    No, not OK.

    There's a difference between "Liberals like you" and "Libtards like you". The first one is just over the border into polite territory. The second one is far over the border into asshole territory.

    jvolstad says

    What about calling a Realtor a Realtard?

    I think it's fine to talk about Realtards in general, but please don't say "You Realtard." The difference being that the insult is then direct. And you don't really know who's a Realtard or not because it's an anonymous forum.

    But if you insult "libtards" in general, I'm likely to delete it, because it identifies you as an ignorant pawn of the 0.1%, playing right into their divide-and-conquer strategy, and willing to sink the whole country rather than fix anything while the Democrats are in power.

    Apolcalypsefuck can insult pretty much anything on earth and I won't delete it.

    BTW, I took yesterday off and drove up to the beach in Marin. Intended to go to Stinson Beach but the traffic was so awful that we turned off at Miwok Ranch and walked 1.5 miles to Tennessee Cove just to try it out instead. Wow, that is a fantastically beautiful place.

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    mpk.renter says

    Thanks Patrick,

    I used to read pnet daily but now it might be weekly or less due to the idiots posting nonsense and less than interesting news articles lately.

    However, I still greatly appreciate that this site exists.

    Stick to real estate, promote healthy discourse, and ban jerks.

    It's almost cheaper to by in Menlo Park, except for the fact there's no inventory, and, oh yeah, it's 6000 a month for either rent or a mortgage. Pick your poison.

    Patrick I 100% agree with MPK.renter. This has gone from a housing forum to a biased political forum. As much as I enjoy political discussion, perhaps it would be best if this forum went back to its roots as a housing forum... Otherwise I will keep finding myself checking out other forums, which is too bad because in the past I have really enjoyed this website.

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    27   10:20am Sun 22 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Why don't you just read the housing part of the forum?

    http://patrick.net/forum/real-estate/

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    Abortion murders a human baby. Fact or opinion?

    If guns are outlawed, outlaws who are armed illegally and doing bad things, will still have guns. Only law following people are effected. Gov members, judges, and celebs are still protected by weapons or premium living location. Fact or opinion?

    Forcing a citizen voter to pay for the care and feeding of another citizen voter, who is deemed worthy of the free care and feeding by gov standards, is a great idea. Fact or opinion?

    It has been my experience that sometimes one person's fact is another person's opinion. And that is just an opinion, and that's a fact - in my humble opinion.

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    HRHMedia says

    But you only express your opinion, feel free to back it up with fact now and then

    your abilty to miss the flow of content is impressive. Cheers

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    Meccos says

    Patrick I 100% agree with MPK.renter. This has gone from a housing forum to a biased political forum. As much as I enjoy political discussion, perhaps it would be best if this forum went back to its roots as a housing forum... Otherwise I will keep finding myself checking out other forums, which is too bad because in the past I have really enjoyed this website.

    In the past? How long ago? It has been like this for years.

    Sometimes I make a rule that we ONLY talk about politics, religion, and sex over dinner with friends. :-)

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    HRHMedia says

    But you only express your opinion, feel free to back it up with fact now and then.

    that is an opinion. If names were allowed, right here is where I would call you a dumbass for missing the irony, but they are not allowed, so I will do no such thing.

    Bap33 says

    It has been my experience that sometimes one person's fact is another person's opinion. And that is just an opinion, and that's a fact - in my humble opinion.

    this was an opinion on your suggesting that you (from your higher position in life and humanity) demand to only read facts. A very funny request, in my opinion.

    then you went nuts, and here were are. Flame on, Flamer McFlamerson. Your pal, T. Roller

    @PeterP lmao

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    Ruki says

    Patrick says

    Apolcalypsefuck can insult pretty much anything on earth and I won't delete it.

    So there aren't any 'rules'. It is all arbitrary. Thanks for clarifying.

    Yes, it's Patrick's judgement. Unless the thread is started by a Premium Member. Then they can moderate comments on that thread too.

    Apocalypsefuck is so entertaining that I'm actually looking forward to cannibal anarchy.

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    Ruki says

    atrick says

    Apolcalypsefuck can insult pretty much anything on earth and I won't delete it.
    So there aren't any 'rules'. It is all arbitrary. Thanks for clarifying.

    Please allow me Patrick,

    Apolcalypsefuck is never - ever- biased in his posting. He never excludes anyone from his wrath. He is a "personality" on here that has been welcomed and enjoyed by everyone, including the target. He is one of the best at keeping things light hearted when the subject matter is really bad stuff. The postings put up show intellect and insight and true understanding, because true humor demands those things. He has earned the right to post off-color, degrading, irreverant stuff. From iwog, to marcus, to Dan, to me, to ellie, to ToT, to pretty much everyone else that has been spending our extra time on here -- ApF belongs, in full living color. You and I and most other will operate as the rules dictate. Life is not about fair, it's about adaptation. Chin-up. carry on.

    @Patrick, if I was not on the mark, deleat and accept my appoligies for over-stepping.

    edit: my post is in honesty, not a smartassed anti ApF post. I like things as they are

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    HRHMedia says

    calling anyone a 'tard is NOT OK!

    Agreed. Comment deleted.

    If we can't just all get along, perhaps we could all use the "ignore" function a bit more?

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    Bap33 says

    Apocalypsefuck is one of the best at keeping things light hearted when the subject matter is really bad stuff.

    Yes! You put it well. Even though he talks about tossing people from helicopters, he doesn't actually seem mean-spirited. I know that seems like a contradiction, but he makes it work.

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    I wish you two would just put each other on ignore.

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    HRHMedia says

    Meccos says

    I enjoy political discussion,

    You do and I love a good chat. But you only express your opinion, feel free to back it up with fact now and then. We can then all enjoy the benefit of what you know.

    Social Media Guru Since 1999

    WHy don't you read the essay that I wrote in response to the copy and pasting you did?

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    HRHMedia says

    Bap33 says

    your abilty to miss the flow of content is impressive. Cheers

    Are you looking in the mirror again? I don't like calling people Trolls, but I am sure there are people who would consider you as such. Why not start a thread?

    Social Media Guru Since 1999

    Funny I actually thought you were a troll...

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    Patrick, can you confirm that this dude aint playing multiple roles on here? Seems a bit too perfect.

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    Patrick says

    I wish you two would just put each other on ignore.

    Ah, that would be a good feature. Let people who are tired of hearing bickering between two other users put the two other users on mutual ignore. It would be like a parent separating two quarreling siblings.

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    Patrick: "I wish you two would just put each other on ignore."

    There you go, making it too complicated.

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    Bap33 says

    Patrick, can you confirm that this dude aint playing multiple roles on here? Seems a bit too perfect.

    Which two users do you think are the same? Email addresses are all unique, but I could check IP address of latest comment.

    Dan8267 says

    Let people who are tired of hearing bickering between two other users put the two other users on mutual ignore. It would be like a parent separating two quarreling siblings.

    Yes, that does seem to be a good idea. OK, Ruki and HRHmedia are now on mutual ignore.

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    I think HRHmedia is a troll...

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    Are we back to troll-hunting again?

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    HRHMedia says

    Meccos says

    I think HRHmedia is a troll...

    Said the guy with 28 comments to date

    Social Media Guru Since 1999

    Sorry I didnt know that making comments on a BLOG was not allowed.... THIS IS A BLOG were the purpose is to make comments! HAHAH seriously? haha

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    Actually I think I might ignore HRHMedia also... he is giving me a stomach ache from laughing too hard...

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    if 28 comments make someone a troll, does 483 comments make him 20x the troll?

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    Is reality backed up with anything?

    What are reality and facts in an ontological and epistemological context?

    In the end, any statement is either a "baseless" opinion or a "useless" tautology.

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    Oh Peter...don't go pretending you've surrendered to post modernist drivel. I know you to be smarter than that. Pi is Pi.

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    Randy H says

    Oh Peter...don't go pretending you've surrendered to post modernist drivel. I know you to be smarter than that. Pi is Pi.

    But I was inspired by Woody Allen's Love and Death.

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    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087332/quotes?qt=qt0475917

    Is it acceptable to call someone dickless? As in, I'm pretty sure hrh has no dick, at least that is what his priest said.

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    HEY YOU says

    Patrick: "I wish you two would just put each other on ignore."

    There you go, making it too complicated.

    Instead of asking our sponsor to be responsible for these sociological solutions, why not offer the damaged potential insight and solutions.
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/11955371/Universals-of-Child-RearingAnthropology.
    It might need to be offered more than once or twice, but if the individual continues self destructing then authorities should be sent to his 20. Name calling is only an intimidation tool. It is learned in childhood in insecure environments. If you are called a doo doo head & you believe it, they win. Patrick's Readers know & understand their intentions. Don't we really hope for their peace of mind ?

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    53   5:53am Mon 23 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    @Patrick
    This is in the wrong thread, b/c I forget which thread it belongs in. A number of people have complained about how the real estate section is being marginalized by political topics on the front page through board activity. Your response is often, 'why not just go to the real estate board.' I agree that is a good solution, and I often do it. I would suggest that you make it more obvious, perhaps give 'real estate' a preferred spot at the top, or put a little temporary banner up there to let people know about that.

    The people who just want to read the real estate section may be the least likely to figure out how to get to the right page and / or change their bookmark.

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    you know what, I agree. The major activity and "first view" really should be the realestate stuff ... I say this because that is probably the reason a new arrival was searching and found PatNet. But, to be honest, I am not really sure what a first time visitor finds when they land here. lol

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