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Anti-Gun Control Groups Spent 17 Times As Much On Lobbying As Pro-Gun Control

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1. The Original Bankster Follow Befriend 4 threads 342 comments Phoenix, AZ The Original Bankster's website

   25   10:10pm Thu 26 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   10 Palestinians have died for every IDF soldier. This means that terrorists are right and the IDF are murderers right?

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   26   10:27pm Thu 26 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   freak80 says wbblair3 says And ask these guys about the dangers of total gun confiscation: I don't think anyone is trying to totally confiscate guns. At least not nationally. Mabye in some local jurisdictions perhaps? At the same time not too many people think we should all be allowed to own tanks and rocket-propelled grenades. The "sensible" position is somewhere between those two extremes and there's no real "scientific" way to know exactly where to draw the line. Plus there are diffences like urban vs. rural, cultural differences, etc. Pshhh RPG,that's a baby toy! What you REALLY want is one of these babies: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

3. HEY YOU Follow Befriend (4) 352 threads 965 comments

   27   12:13am Fri 27 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Patrick@ 21, You may already have this with the transcript. It's hard to beat the spoken word & written word when combined. http://shoqvalue.com/george-carlin-on-the-american-dream-with-transcript

4. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

   28   9:19am Fri 27 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   StillLooking says It is unlikely that someone in a the United States does not know someone that was shot or killed by a gun. "Would it make you feel any better, little girl, if they was pushed outta windows?" -- Archie Bunker

5. lostand confused Follow Befriend (9) 184 threads 1,660 comments Premium

   29   3:44am Sun 29 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   There has to be a balance. In the country it is fine. If you live out in the boonies, you need a gun . If you have livestock, a vet maybe an hour or two away and you may need to know how to put down an animal in distress humanely-guns are pretty good for that, if you know what you are doing. Plus they give you a measure of protection and you can hunt. On the other hand, in a big city, do you really want a bunch of drunk young males walking the streets with loaded AK47s? I forget which state it is, that allows people to bring guns into bars. Again country is fine, but big cities are different animals and there has to be some restrictions-just not sure what the line in the sand should be.

6. Rent4Ever Follow Befriend 7 threads 94 comments

   30   7:55am Sun 29 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   lostand confused says On the other hand, in a big city, do you really want a bunch of drunk young males walking the streets with loaded AK47s? I forget which state it is, that allows people to bring guns into bars. Again country is fine, but big cities are different animals and there has to be some restrictions-just not sure what the line in the sand should be Take out AK47s and put pistols, and that is exactly what is happening in cities all over the country. Except those guns are not legally owned and obtained guns. Gangs, drug dealers, thieves, drug addicts, ex-cons, they all have guns but not through the legal channels. It's the second amendment, just behind freedom of speech, assembly and press. So it isn't going anywhere without a large movement of support. As for the debate of what is reasonable and what isn't, the reason the NRA and other gun supporters lobby so hard to discourage any and all laws relating to gun control it's because of the concept of "give them an inch, they want a foot." Start allowing federal income taxes, and all of a sudden we see rates upwards of 20%-40%. There will always be a gun-control cry in politics and it will never end no matter what the NRA/gun rights people give. So no one wants to give anything.

7. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 14 threads 2,450 comments San Jose, CA Premium

   31   10:29pm Sun 29 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Honest Abe says Could it be they believe that firearms in the hands of patriots may be the last line of defense against a tyranical government? Then they are fools. If our government truly turned on its own people the military would be able to reduce this country to the stone age with narry a drop of sweat. I'd also be willing to bet that in that situation most of the people with guns would be far more willing to fore go their sacred 2nd amendment rights and swear allegiance to the new order than take a chance fighting for the old. That said I'm constantly surprised and grateful that our rank and file military put up with us civilians as well as they do. Imagine how whiny we sound complaining about 80 hour work weeks and high home prices while so many of them spend years in complete $3@^holes with IEDs, PRG and God knows what else. Its still not going to stop me from complaining but I do try to keep it in perspective.

8. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 434 threads 4,251 comments Baltimore, MD

   32   9:26am Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)

9. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

   33   11:08am Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Patrick says How is the gun issue used to divide us? It's very similar to many other divisive issues, like gay marriage and abortion. Who has an interest in dividing us, and what do they want? Like I keep saying, if the Democrats would be more moderate on those issues, they'd regain permanent-majority status. But they won't. I don't think it's our overlords funding the homosexual pressure groups or radical feminists. Those are real movements with money that strongly influence the Democrat party.

10. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 298 threads 5,278 comments

    34   1:39pm Mon 30 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   clambo says The twerps who want to take them away are generally the lazy, prozac or cymbalta achievers hanging around cafes. Wait a minute, I hang around cafes, I'll have to keep a vigilant eye out for the twerps you speak of.

11. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 3,093 comments

    35   12:26am Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   lostand confused says On the other hand, in a big city, do you really want a bunch of drunk young males walking the streets with loaded AK47s? I forget which state it is, that allows people to bring guns into bars. Again country is fine, but big cities are different animals and there has to be some restrictions-just not sure what the line in the sand should Remember the street riots in LA back in the Early 90s. Had it not been for the loaded guns by the shopkeepers and merchants. Many would have been killed by thugs and their business burned and looted ! Guns stopped the killings ! Before a verdict was issued in the new 1993 Rodney King federal civil rights trial against the four officers, Korean shop owners prepared for the worst as fear ran throughout the city, gun sales went up, virtually all of them by those of Korean descent, some merchants at flea markets removed their merchandise from their shelves, storefronts were fortified with extra Plexiglas and bars. Throughout the community, shop owners readied to defend themselves as if on the eve of a war.[51] College student Elizabeth Hwang spoke of the attacks on her parents' convenience store in 1992 and the fact that if trouble erupted following the 1993 trial, that they were armed with a Glock 17 pistol, a Beretta and a shotgun and they plan to barricade themselves in their store to fight off looters.[53] Some Koreans formed armed self defence groups following the 1992 riots. Speaking just prior to the 1993 verdict, Mr. Yong Kim, leader of the Korea Young Adult Team of Los Angeles, which purchased five AK-47s, stated: “ We made a mistake last year. This time we won't. I don't know why Koreans are always a special target for African Americans, but if they are going to attack our community then we are going to pay them back. "

12. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 3,093 comments

    36   12:36am Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Patrick says Bad assumption. Go beyond the false "conserative vs liberal" dichotomy and think for yourself. How is the gun issue used to divide us? It's very similar to many other divisive issues, like gay marriage and abortion. Who has an interest in dividing us, and what do they want? Your from Maine! You think differently from others... your values are different from others. WE are not you, and do not seek your values.

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    37   12:57am Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   freak80 says Who do you think is more fearful, the "pro-gun" side or the "anti-gun" side? The crossbow side. CIA did a study back in the late nineties which established the most visually intimidating hand-held weapon and the crossbow won out over all.

14. Homeboy Follow Befriend 17 threads 1,606 comments

    38   12:58am Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Daniel Estulin says I would assume that since Patrick posted this article, he must be against gun ownership, despite that this is the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution, it's part of what our troops vow to protect, and that communist governments have regularly, throughout history, banned guns prior to conducting genocide on their own people to remove the political opposition and "undesireables" from those societies. Why anyone would want to so fully trust our obviously corrupt government in some ways suggests either brainwashing by that government, or being hired by said government. The Tavistock Institute in London certainly provides plenty of well-coordinated global propaganda to help with the brainwash aspect.

15. JodyChunder Follow Befriend (3) 21 threads 1,524 comments Victorville, CA Premium

    39   1:10am Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   So now we know what it looks like when Bubo the Owl takes a big dump on a guy's head, there's that much less mystery in the world. Back to guns!

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    40   8:39am Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)

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    41   9:17am Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   @Patrick, RE: urban vs rural from above. I think the poster above meant that most of America is still rural area, and I think you meant most of the population is more centralized in urban environments. Just wanted to put some Windex on the mud puddle.

18. TMAC54 Follow Befriend (9) 70 threads 930 comments San Leandro, CA

    42   10:15pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Two types of People want to eliminate guns. One type responding to media's sensationalism and another branch who want to render our society defenseless. Intellectuals who have been experienced around guns, understand their benefit(sss). Let's keep the rights of the honest and learn to eliminate those with ill intent.

19. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 3,093 comments

    43   10:18pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   LOL! great T-Shirt! this is the part of empowering women.. Libs dont like!

20. JodyChunder Follow Befriend (3) 21 threads 1,524 comments Victorville, CA Premium

    44   10:23pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Gun lover/intellectual:

21. The Original Bankster Follow Befriend 4 threads 342 comments Phoenix, AZ The Original Bankster's website

    45   10:54pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Jody, that pic is discriminatory against white trash. I demand you remove it and pay me 1 billion in subsidies.

22. The Original Bankster Follow Befriend 4 threads 342 comments Phoenix, AZ The Original Bankster's website

    46   10:56pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   "it's all a false dichotomy designed to fool you!" translation: Im a liberal twatbag who can't admit that my ideology is totally corrupt and self-destructing.

23. jvolstad Follow Befriend (4) 1,003 threads 1,146 comments San Antonio, TX jvolstad's website

    47   11:38pm Tue 31 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   JodyChunder says Gun lover/intellectual: Who took my picture?

24. KILLERJANE Follow Befriend (3) 12 threads 600 comments

    48   12:01am Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Gun up. I don't have one but I would buy one if it got really bad here.

25. The Original Bankster Follow Befriend 4 threads 342 comments Phoenix, AZ The Original Bankster's website

    49   5:23pm Wed 1 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   KILLERJANE says Gun up. I don't have one but I would buy one if it got really bad here. Thinking saying and doing need to line up. that's why they want to ban them BEFORE the violence breaks out. every wonder why they're doing everything they can to prevent a breakdown of the system?

26. ELC Follow Befriend (3) 3 threads 658 comments Fort Lauderdale, FL

    50   4:39am Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   TMAC54 says Two types of People want to eliminate guns. One type responding to media's sensationalism and another branch who want to render our society defenseless. The third type is someone who had a family member killed by their own gun. If you look at the statistics you'll see you're more likely to be killed by your own gun, or kill a family member, or a friend or family member kill you than some criminal.

27. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 249 threads 2,915 comments

    51   4:11pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   KILLERJANE says Gun up. I don't have one but I would buy one if it got really bad here. Everyone should have some extra "hardware" in their tool box...

28. PolishKnight Follow Befriend (1) 408 comments Reston, VA

    52   4:49pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Another word/phrase for "Anti-Gun Control Groups" are "gun civil rights groups." How about if we refer to the pro-choice movement as "anti-abortion control lobbyist groups?" In the meantime, what ARE labeled civil rights groups are often cynical lobbyists. "La Raza" (the race) which is a pro-hispanic lobbying group. "Feminism" which literally means seeing the world in terms of feminine interests (and this is their political agenda as well, they rarely care about equality if it benefits men at the expense of women). Etc. As you chuckle about "gun nuts", this is my perspective on the issue: Just as "gun rights" may seem like an unnecessary danger, the same could be said for a lot of things. Alcohol certainly is a danger and they tried prohibition. Do you NEED rock music? Guns can be a positive part of life. Go ahead, yuck it up. Allow me to explain. My friend takes his 10 year old daughter out for shooting lessons. She's disabled (but can fire a gun) and this provides her with a feeling of empowerment. She can handle a dangerous object and use it for precision practice, win awards, and demonstrate she can responsibly handle the weapon. Instead of just voting for patriarchal politicians to take care of her, she has demonstrated that if she needed to, she could defend herself. It gives her self confidence. And for men, well, sure it's stereotypical that guns are often substitutes for "other" "equipment" much like sport cars but also, it is a learning experience to handle a weapon safely and maybe even hunt your own game. It brings you together with nature that picking up shrinkwrapped food doesn't. Most rural gun rights supporters are more in tune with nature than suburban hippies in the Bay Area thinking they're roughing it when the Whole Foods opens an hour late...

29. ELC Follow Befriend (3) 3 threads 658 comments Fort Lauderdale, FL

    53   5:25pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says Gun up. I don't have one but I would buy one if it got really bad here. Everyone should have some extra "hardware" in their tool box... Having one in your "toolbox" is more of a danger to you or your family than not having one. Things almost never come down the way they do on TV. In the real world your child finds the gun and shoots themself. Your spouse gets drunk and/or angry and shoots themself or you. The criminal finds your gun and steals it or uses it on you. If you really want to always be prepared learn how to disarm someone and evade getting shot. Learn where other people keep their weapons. Learn how to enter a locked house or car to find a weapon when you really need it. Also learn how defend yourself if you have no weapon. Learn the many ways to build or improvise a weapon. That's what the pros are taught, and the criminals already know. Having a gun just lulls people into a false sense of security. How do you think a bunch of farmers and children chased a well funded modern army out of Vietnam? When I was a teen I worked in a carwash. I could tell just by looking at the bumper stickers and what was hanging from the rearview mirror who was going to have a gun under their seat. The smart way to go is to let someone else risk their lives storing a weapon for you for when I really need it. Rednecks abound.

30. ELC Follow Befriend (3) 3 threads 658 comments Fort Lauderdale, FL

    54   5:42pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   PolishKnight says Alcohol certainly is a danger and they tried prohibition. They didn't really try. Talk to some oldsters. It was hardly enforced. Everyone had a still. You could get it by presciption. Kosher markets sold it. Speakeasys all over. The law was a joke. If it was enforced the way heroine or cocaine is today it would have a whole different outcome. But then everyone would turn to pot, which was what was happening during prohibition. And we can't ever allow that to happen can we? Got to keep drug pushers, big pharma and treatment centers humming. BTW, check out the price and production of heroine just before and then after the US entered the worlds top producer of opium, Afganistan. The Taliban had almost eradicated opium production in that country. Those bastards! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan http://adventofdeception.com/wikileaks-afghanistan-afghan-opium-war/

31. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 249 threads 2,915 comments

    55   6:07pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   ELC says Having one in your "toolbox" is more of a danger to you or your family than not having one. If you had common sense, if you put a new "tool" in your "toolbox", you should have the intelligence and ability to use it.... ELC says In the real world your child finds the gun and shoots themself. Your spouse gets drunk and/or angry and shoots themself or you Do you keep all your sharp kitchen knives locked up in a safe in your house so your kids or spouse can't get to them and use them on you? ELC says The criminal finds your gun and steals it or uses it on you. If a criminal finds your gun and uses it on you, then you weren't intelligent, trained or smart enough to own it in the first place... ELC says Learn where other people keep their weapons. Learn how to enter a locked house or car to find a weapon when you really need it. Another intelligent comment... try that and most likely you will be on the receiving end of some "lead" poisoning... ELC says The smart way to go is to let someone else risk their lives storing a weapon for you for when I really need it. I can't even begin to start on that one....

32. ELC Follow Befriend (3) 3 threads 658 comments Fort Lauderdale, FL

    56   6:17pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says If a criminal finds your gun and uses it on you, then you weren't intelligent, trained or smart enough to own it in the first place... Most people aren't. Especially gun owners. It's the lazy, cowardly man's way to pretend they're protected. A substitute for mommy's teet.

33. ELC Follow Befriend (3) 3 threads 658 comments Fort Lauderdale, FL

    57   6:21pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   PolishKnight says And for men, well, sure it's stereotypical that guns are often substitutes for "other" "equipment" It means they're scared and they want their mommy.

34. Bap33 Follow Befriend (3) 12 threads 3,119 comments

    58   7:40pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   ELC says Especially gun owners. used as a perjorative ... really? ... LMAO _____________ is a mental disorder.

35. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (17) 785 threads 7,962 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    59   8:37pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   TMAC54 says This, of course, is a disingenuous argument. Gun control advocates, in general, don't advocate bans on guns, the attempted ban in Washington D.C. being the sole exception. Gun control advocates propose "cooling off" waiting periods to prevent crimes of passion and limits on the number of rounds per second available to purchase. A woman being attacked by a rapist can kill that rapist just as easily with a semi-automatic pistol holding 10 rounds as with an assault rifle, automatic shotgun, or uzi. The crazy fucker in the movie theater, however, isn't going to kill nearly as many people with a semi-automatic pistol. Best argument for gun control Now we can debate what kinds of weapons should be available, but to argue that someone who has a different opinion wants to see a defenseless woman get raped is absurd. If anything, one could argue that a ban on guns makes it less likely that a woman will get raped. After all, pepper spray is no deterrent when the attacker has a gun. Greatest defensive weapon ever made It can call 911 and send video and high resolution images of the attacker. It can even tell the attacker that his image has been recorded and sent to the police already and his current actions are being streamed live to YouTube, so he had better think about his next move.

36. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (17) 785 threads 7,962 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    60   8:39pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Patrick says Anti-Gun Control Groups Spent 17 Times As Much On Lobbying As Pro-Gun Contro Can't say I'm surprised. Businesses make a lot of money selling guns and ammo. No one makes money refraining from selling guns and ammo. The side that has a profit motive always has more to spend on lobbying. That's one of the fundamental problems with our system of politics.

37. ELC Follow Befriend (3) 3 threads 658 comments Fort Lauderdale, FL

    61   6:10am Mon 8 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Dan8267 says The crazy fucker in the movie theater, however, isn't going to kill nearly as many people with a semi-automatic pistol. James Holmes was only using semi-automatic weapons. Fully-auto weapons don't kill more people they just waste ammunition causing the shooter to have to reload more frequently. When a shooter reloads that's when you have an opportunity to stop him. Besides, any semi-auto can be bump fired. Back when I believed in having guns I would get kicked out of gun ranges all the time bump firing my MAC-10. It was a legal semi-auto yet I could empty the clip in seconds. or if you have no skill

38. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 249 threads 2,915 comments

    62   7:29am Mon 8 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Dan8267 says Greatest defensive weapon ever made It can call 911 and send video and high resolution images of the attacker. It can even tell the attacker that his image has been recorded and sent to the police already and his current actions are being streamed live to YouTube, so he had better think about his next move. Please tell me this statement was a joke......

39. Homeboy Follow Befriend 17 threads 1,606 comments

    63   12:05pm Mon 8 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Ralph Nader is also for gun-control.

40. Bap33 Follow Befriend (3) 12 threads 3,119 comments

    64   7:11pm Mon 8 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Ralph Nader blows goats. He was Agenda 21 before there was an Agenda 21.

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