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You are a criminal. You are a felon. Yep you, personally.


By Dan8267   Follow   Thu, 2 Aug 2012, 9:32pm   7,370 views   69 comments
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John Stossel's Illegal Everything

Today's laws are largely arbitrary, overly complex, and overly intrusive. One cop could buy lemonade from you kid and the next cop could arrest your kid for selling lemonade.

Over-criminalization is one of the greatest problems in our society today. Every year you probably commit dozens of felonies without your knowledge, violating laws that should not even exist in the first place.

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  1. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich


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    1   9:05am Sat 4 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike  

    The key to prosperity is for everyone to invest in prison management companies and then go out and get arrested and thrown in jail!

  2. Dan8267


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    Bap33 says

    all of the good people that make up the 98% that know deviant behavior should not be treated as normal, and that gayness is a mental disorder or a birth defect. That's who. Maybe?

    Those people aren't good, and homosexuality is not a mental disorder or a birth defect. I could make a strong case that faith is a mental disorder and that social conservatism is a birth defect. Actually, I have many times and I've been supported by science.

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    3   7:41am Sat 4 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    True. We have 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prisoner population. Land of the Free!

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    4   8:00pm Sat 4 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Bap33 says

    ..you got me .... you got the Tater...

    You get extra credit for that one.

  5. Dan8267


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    Bap33 says

    sexual deviants happen in nature so you think it's natural

    If it happens in nature, it is by definition natural. If it happens all over the place, it's not deviant.

    Furthermore, you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support your assertion that male homosexuality is the result of a mental illness. That is just your prejudice.

    Just because you don't like something doesn't make it vile and evil. Male homosexuals have loving and compassionate relationships that they find fulfilling and emotionally satisfying. To consider that to be a mental disorder is retarded.


    This is from a real professor of psychology, Bap.

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    6   9:18pm Sun 5 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Bap33 says

    sexual deviants happen in nature so you think it's natural??

    Do I really need to say it? YES - if it happens in nature YES it is natural. That's the very definition of natural:

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/natural

    Forcing gay people to live as straight people, now THAT is NOT natural.

    You seem to equate homosexuality with pedophilia. How do you draw that correlation? If an elderly man sexually abuses his granddaughter does that make him gay? How about a female schoolteacher that sleeps with her underage male students? Is she then a lesbian?

    You are the one putting labels on people here. "Deviant", "perversion", "birth defect", all definitions put on homosexuals here by you. Those are the very dangerous words. Those words allow gay people to be marginalized, persecuted and eventually killed. Think I'm overstating my case?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people

    http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/online/hsx/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender_scare

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/09/in-most-islamic-countries-gay-men-and-women-are-ostracized-persecuted-and-in-some-cases-even-murdere.html

    Wow, your views of gay people parallel those of the Nazis, Islamic fundamentalists and McCarthy. That's quite a crowd you run with!

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    7   10:32pm Sun 5 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)  

    By the way, how the hell did this thread end up being about gay marriage. That's a totally different thread!

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    8   8:09am Tue 7 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)  

    Gay "rights" are a distraction. Distraction from real issues and problems this country has.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    It's kinda hard not to break laws when you Libs making ad hoc laws, fashioned to prosecute people on the wrong political side, to be enforced immediately.

    Its not the libs keeping marijuana illegal now is it?

    Its not the libs denying gay couples the same rights as straight couples is it?

    If not the libs then just who is?

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    10   7:07pm Sat 4 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Honest Abe says

    Each and every law is the loss of freedom. To stabalize the insanity, how about this? For every NEW law put on the books, TWO existing laws must be removed!

    Counter proposal: Every law expires after 25 years automatically. Each law must be re-approved by a majority vote in Congress within five years of expiring in order to be extended. This includes tax laws, especially the income tax.

    My counter-proposal would allow for a stable number of essential laws to exist but would make extraneous laws too difficult to maintain.

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    lostand confused says

    True. We have 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prisoner population. Land of the Free!

    We also torture, which is the most cowardly act one can do. So much for "home of the brave".

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    12   8:54pm Sat 4 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Unlike civil compensation, criminal laws use government deliberately to cause harm, in order to punish someone. Unfortunately this creates a revenue opportunity for the prison-industrial complex, and a power opportunity for politicians (which they can translate into revenue). So, I suggest each criminal law should be subject to public referendum every 20 years. To sustain a criminal law, 3/4 of voters would need to agree that something should be a crime, within one year of initial enactment, and every 20 years thereafter. To repeal it, 1/3 at any time would be enough.

    Corporations would not be allowed to vote, until such time as they can be sent to prison themselves.

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    It will soon be law that you must change your oil every three thousand miles.

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    14   7:15pm Sun 5 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Bap33 says

    New renter says

    If not the libs then just who is?

    all of the good people that make up the 98% that know deviant behavior should not be treated as normal, and that gayness is a mental disorder or a birth defect. That's who. Maybe?

    Speaking as a straight man in a happy "traditional" by-your-definition marriage I am not at all offended by homosexuality or same sex marriage. The gay people I have known are no less deserving of the rights and drawbacks of marriage, are no less qualified to be parents than the straight people I know. Homosexuality is not "unnatural", any non biased animal researcher can tell you that.
    If you consider homosexuality to be wrong then fine, don't cruze gay bars. But don't try to force gay people to conform to what makes you comfortable least you yourself be forced to live a lie that makes someone else comfortable.

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    swebb says

    Seriously, that's what drives this hate?

    The hate comes from the militant deviant nation .... ask Chick fal A

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    16   9:48pm Sun 5 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    swebb says

    Bap33 says



    God will not be mocked.


    Seriously, that's what drives this hate? The Jesus that I read about in the bible is loving, accepting, open and understanding. Try it.

    you are suggesting I have ill feelings toward a special needs person? That's very rude of you. I want to help all special needs people. You should want to protect them from being abused, as I do.

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    17   9:50pm Sun 5 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    p.s., "God will not be mocked" is part of the explaination of the behaviors of sexual deviants. Not part of a sermon.

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    Bap33 says

    all of the good people that make up the 98% that know deviant behavior should not be treated as normal, and that gayness is a mental disorder or a birth defect. That's who. Maybe?

    No. The 98% distract you with stupid arguments about gay marriage while they rape the future from your children.

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    I live in Santa Clara County in CA. Santa Clara and San Mateo has one of the toughest laws in CA.
    When somebody calls police with a minor reason, three cars are coming. People get arrested before open mouth and have to prove their innocent in court, not the otherwise. Yep, they are proud to have one of the lowest crimes in country.

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    REpro says

    New renter says

    I live in Santa Clara County in CA. Santa Clara and San Mateo has one of the toughest laws in CA.

    When somebody calls police with a minor reason, three cars are coming. People get arrested before open mouth and have to prove their innocent in court, not the otherwise. Yep, they are proud to have one of the lowest crimes in country.

    So you'd prefer to live in Apocolypsefuck's zombie apocalypse?

    What is your point?

    Never mind, I just realized you are just trying to get us back to the OT...

    So everything is just fine in your opinion. Maybe someday you or your close friend be arrested and your view be changed.

    That's always a possibility; however, I haven't had any problems with the SJ police myself. Indeed I have found them courteous on the few times I have had to interact with them.

    YMMV

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