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Theater of the Absurd Mitt Romney Wants Reid to Prove Romney Didn't Pay Taxes

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1. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 761 threads 2,592 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

   231   3:30pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Honest Abe says Its like every liberal response has a disparaging or derogatory comment thrown in. That is because the position of the conservatives on this issue is boneheadedly stupid. Only a meathead would be satisfied with Romney's command that Reid prove his non payment of taxes when the lamebrain Romney has the tax records. I hope you aren't a meathead, Abe. Really I do.

2. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 761 threads 2,592 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

   232   3:32pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   xrpb11a says Taking advantage of tax loopholes is legal, aboveboard, non-criminal, complying with existing law. But it will cook Romney's election chances. And it looks bad. And it probably needs to be a loophole that is CLOSED. It is not criminal because the criminals are making the laws. So, do you get paid by the hour or by commission for posting, XRPB? You never answered that.

3. omgbacon Follow Befriend 82 comments

   233   3:37pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   stop quoting xrpb11a. I put him on ignore for a reason.

4. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

   234   3:43pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Well, at least the left's talking points are consistent everywhere... dodge the question. "One more on Harry Reid. It's a simple question. Does the president think that this allegation coming from Harry Reid, without any evidence, made on the Senate floor, is that below the belt? Does that cross the line?" Karl asked. Carney responded by saying that President Obama believes in full disclosure of tax documents when you are running for the presidency. Cloud says http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/06/wh_distances_itself_from_harry_reid_carney_says_he_speaks_for_himself.html

5. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

   235   3:48pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Agreed, up to a point. When other people start bleating how romney didn't pay taxes for 10 years, based on what reid said, as an argument on this forum. then it becomes an issue here. bgamall4 says xrpb11a says Using romneys nondisclosure to justify reid's slanderous remarks. two separate issues. Only one issue matters. That is Romney's runnig for president and not showing his returns. Any other issue is not important. Gary Anderson strategicdefaultbooks.com

6. omgbacon Follow Befriend 82 comments

   236   4:04pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I'm enjoying this whole reid/romney fight. republicans: whaaaaaaaaa. someone made unsubstantiated and easy to refute claims about romney's taxes. whaaaaaaaaa. take back those mean things you said! democrats: if it's not true prove the the rumors wrong by releasing your taxes. republicans: whaaaaaaaaa. meanwhile in crazyville... republicans: obama's not a citizen he was born in kenya! show us the birth certificate! obama and the state of hawaii: here you go. republicans: it's a forgery! show us the real birth certificate. obama and the state of hawaii: we showed it to you. republicans: it's a forgery! obama was born in kenya! romney's son: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/romneys-son-jokes-about-obama-birth-certificate-college-grades/ "When the Romney sons were asked in New Hampshire today whether their father would release his tax returns, Matt Romney said he didn’t know the answer, but went on to add that he’d heard someone suggest that dad might do so as soon as Obama releases his college grades and birth certificate." Romney on Trump: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/229943-trump-overshadows-romney-with-obama-birth-certificate-comments the ultimate point being that if you don't want to play these kinds of games don't start them in the first place. it's refreshing to see the democrats meetiing assholery with assholery.

7. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

   237   4:05pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I agree with everything you stated below. No, I don't get paid by anyone for posting here. I still maintain: 1- It is Romney's right to withhold any private information about himself that he chooses, to his detriment or advantage. It's his risk. 2- What we don't know: * How much tax Romney paid for the past 10 years 3- What we know as of today: * Romney has not broken any laws regarding his taxes, based on the non-action of the IRS. * People calling him a criminal here without any facts are just plain wrong, and I am pointing that out at every turn. * People on this forum, saying romney didn't pay any taxes for 10 years, based on reid's hearsay, have 0 evidence to back it up. * That people here will counter my arguments about them using non-factual information by saying "Romney can clear everything up by releasing his returns", which does nothing to address them using non-facts in their argument, but is merely a diversion. How Romney can "clear everything up" is not what I am arguing. I am arguing the non-facts being thrown around as a basis to degrade his image. bgamall4 says xrpb11a says Taking advantage of tax loopholes is legal, aboveboard, non-criminal, complying with existing law. But it will cook Romney's election chances. And it looks bad. And it probably needs to be a loophole that is CLOSED. It is not criminal because the criminals are making the laws. So, do you get paid by the hour or by commission for posting, XRPB? You never answered that. Gary Anderson strategicdefaultbooks.com

8. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 761 threads 2,592 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

   238   4:21pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   xrpb11a says People calling him a criminal here without any facts are just plain wrong, and I am pointing that out at every turn. I am not calling Romney a criminal. I am calling him the King of sleazebuckets. He is a dirty little man.

9. Vicente Follow Befriend (8) 204 threads 4,416 comments Davis, CA

   239   4:22pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   This is like Birtherism turned on it's head. The more RMoney tries to dodge it, the more it will fester.

10. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 761 threads 2,592 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    240   4:22pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   xrpb11a says People on this forum, saying romney didn't pay any taxes for 10 years, based on reid's hearsay, have 0 evidence to back it up. Romney's silence is evidence.

11. robertoaribas Follow Befriend (23) 55 threads 3,836 comments Scottsdale, AZ robertoaribas's website

    241   4:27pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   xrpb11a says People on this forum, saying romney didn't pay any taxes for 10 years, based on reid's hearsay, have 0 evidence to back it up. hearsay refers to testimony in a trial, saying what someone else said, when that person can be supponeaned and tell for themselves what they said... Not applicable here at all. What you may be attempting to refer to, would go under the title of slander... but truth is a total defense of slander. And mittens would have to expose his tax records to prove it wasn't true...

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    242   4:32pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   thomaswong.1986 says Actually its NOT illegal.. in fact ANYONE could with a few thousand dollars grow to over couple million in a few years due to the stock market crash in 2000-2002 and again with market crash in 2008-2010. I bought back in 2002-03 post crash software stock in my IRA account. On average i made 12x my investment. I bought stock that was at book value.. cash for cash! Later it skyrocketed. Wait, are you saying he merely took $2500 and picked stocks so well that he made a few million? Wow, I think we found Peter Lynch's replacement. Move over Warren Buffett. Junk Jesse Livermore. Nah. I bet he was playing silly buggers with classes of stocks in companies he controlled, managed, or otherwise had the inside track on. Most forms of insider trading are legal, if you follow the disclosure rules.

13. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    243   4:40pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   xrpb11a says Well, at least the left's talking points are consistent everywhere... dodge the question. It's not necessary to dodge the question because the only ones who care about the question are Foxbots. Trying to turn outrage against Romney into outrage against Reid totally misses the only target that anyone cares about: The November presidential elections to which Reid isn't even on the Senate ballot. How Romney turned an IRS-limited IRA contribution into a hundred million dollars or more is a legitimate question about his integrity. Republicans who try to excuse him are like cops who see a homeless man walking down the street with 100 Rolex watches in a backpack......who then want to make the guy mayor. It's barely possible that he got all those gold watches legally, but not even questioning him is idiocy.

14. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    244   4:41pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Wow, you really went overboard proving Abe's point. I really think all this anger exhibited by the left is a byproduct of the economy, the number of people unemployed, and the jobless rate. This is Obama's Achilles heel. They know it is the single biggest weapon Romney has, and it has them paranoid and scared shitless. So on forums like this one, they bring up things like offshore accounts and shipping jobs overseas and non releases of tax returns.....anything to keep the subject away from the economy. But the reality of the situation is that most people don''t give a damn about any of the distractions. They just want a decent job so they can put food on the table, a roof over their head, support and grow their family. And if one president is not delivering, they will replace him. And if one segment of congress is obstructing, they will replace them. And they will keep replacing everyone until they get a configuration that successfully implements policies that will address their situation. bgamall4 says Honest Abe says Its like every liberal response has a disparaging or derogatory comment thrown in. That is because the position of the conservatives on this issue is boneheadedly stupid. Only a meathead would be satisfied with Romney's command that Reid prove his non payment of taxes when the lamebrain Romney has the tax records. I hope you aren't a meathead, Abe. Really I do. Gary Anderson strategicdefaultbooks.com

15. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    245   4:42pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   xrpb11a says But the reality of the situation is that most people don''t give a damn about any of the distractions. They just want a decent job so they can put food on the table, a roof over their head, support and grow their family. And if one president is not delivering, they will replace him. LOL.....the really funny thing is even Rasmussen is showing Obama 2% ahead now. This issue is killing ol Mitt.

16. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    246   4:45pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Are you saying Romney has not paid any taxes in 10 years because his silence is "evidence"?? He already said publicly, yesterday, that he paid taxes every year, for the past 10 years. He is not silent on the subject. bgamall4 says xrpb11a says People on this forum, saying romney didn't pay any taxes for 10 years, based on reid's hearsay, have 0 evidence to back it up. Romney's silence is evidence. Gary Anderson strategicdefaultbooks.com

17. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    247   4:46pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   yup. His strategy could backfire on him bigtime.... iwog says xrpb11a says But the reality of the situation is that most people don''t give a damn about any of the distractions. They just want a decent job so they can put food on the table, a roof over their head, support and grow their family. And if one president is not delivering, they will replace him. LOL.....the really funny thing is even Rasmussen is showing Obama 2% ahead now. This issue is killing ol Mitt.

18. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    248   4:47pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   For Iwog: Another example of someone ignoring the facts.... xrpb11a says Are you saying Romney has not paid any taxes in 10 years because his silence is "evidence"?? He already said publicly, yesterday, that he paid taxes every year, for the past 10 years. He is not silent on the subject. bgamall4 says xrpb11a says People on this forum, saying romney didn't pay any taxes for 10 years, based on reid's hearsay, have 0 evidence to back it up. Romney's silence is evidence. Gary Anderson strategicdefaultbooks.com

19. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    249   4:58pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   xrpb11a says For Iwog: Another example of someone ignoring the facts.... You keep playing games. What facts are being ignored here?

20. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 761 threads 2,592 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    250   5:07pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   xrpb11a says He already said publicly, yesterday, that he paid taxes every year, for the past 10 years. He is not silent on the subject. Yes, without his tax returns we cannot determine if he is telling the truth.

21. omgbacon Follow Befriend 82 comments

    251   5:09pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   this situation is awesome. in order for romney to do anything to reid he'd have to take him to court...and in court his tax returns would have to be brought forward as evidence. even if the tax returns are sealed the outcome of the trial would provide evidence as to the truthiness of reid's claims. if reid is telling the truth he wins. if reid is lying he still wins because romney would end up with a serious image issue for not releasing his taxes. makes him look even more suspicious. ha ha ha ha ha.

22. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 761 threads 2,592 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    252   5:16pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Romney is screwed. But he deserves to be screwed. In fact, few deserve it more than him. Maybe Greenspan and Rubin and the gang allowing toxic loans should deserve it more, but Romney hired economists who supported the last housing bubble.

23. omgbacon Follow Befriend 82 comments

    253   5:23pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   romney should have never engaged it. that's the only way he could have avoided all this.

24. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    254   7:26pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   It seems like a game to you because you refuse to acknowledge outright lies. BGAMALL4 said: "Romney's silence is evidence" ( on whether he paid taxes or not the past 10 years) Well, that is an outright lie because Romney has not been silent on the question of "if he paid taxes the past 10 years" http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/03/13106580-romney-i-have-paid-taxes-every-year?lite I'll point these fictional comments out to you from time to time to bring you up to speed..... iwog says xrpb11a says For Iwog: Another example of someone ignoring the facts.... You keep playing games. What facts are being ignored here?

25. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    255   7:29pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   STFU! Now, I don't consider this an insult, since you have me on "ignore". So I am calculating that you will never see it. Unless someone else quotes it....but then it's out of my control. omgbacon says romney should have never engaged it. that's the only way he could have avoided all this.

26. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    256   7:33pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   maybe...maybe not. http://www.kjonline.com/news/Romney-RNC-raise-more-than-101M-in-July-.html Romney already proved that if you outspend your opponents on attack ads during the final days of an election, you can win. ( see the primaries..florida, et al ) He is raising a lot more than obama. and he will unload this massive nuke a few weeks before the election, OB will be outspent. bgamall4 says Romney is screwed

27. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    257   7:38pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Even Obama's lackeys acknowledge this.... "[W]e still got beat -- and not by a little bit," Ann Marie Habershaw, chief operating officer for Obama for America, said in a press statement on Monday. "If we lose this election, it will be because we didn't close the gap enough when we had the chance," she told Obama's supporters in the hope more contributions will pour into the President's war chest. Current war chest: Romney: 160 million Obama: 100 million xrpb11a says maybe...maybe not. http://www.kjonline.com/news/Romney-RNC-raise-more-than-101M-in-July-.html Romney already proved that if you outspend your opponents on attack ads during the final days of an election, you can win. ( see the primaries..florida, et al ) He is raising a lot more than obama. and he will unload this massive nuke a few weeks before the election, OB will be outspent. bgamall4 says Romney is screwed

28. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    258   8:30pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   xrpb11a says Well, that is an outright lie because Romney has not been silent on the question of "if he paid taxes the past 10 years" We're talking about federal income tax. Romney said he paid "a lot of taxes every year" which sounds like Bill Clinton saying he didn't have sex with that woman. I would pay a lot of taxes every year too, even if I didn't file a tax return. There are lots of taxes we all pay. You have failed to provide even ONE instance of a Democrat or liberal denying reality.

29. Vicente Follow Befriend (8) 204 threads 4,416 comments Davis, CA

    259   8:35pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)

30. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    260   8:40pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   harry reid never stated romney never paid "federal" taxes, he stated romney never paid taxes..... If you infer that Reid was talking about "federal taxes", then it is only fair to infer romney was talking about "federal taxes". so I have provided you with TWO instances of lies in these forums, and the day ain't over yet!! iwog says xrpb11a says Well, that is an outright lie because Romney has not been silent on the question of "if he paid taxes the past 10 years" We're talking about federal income tax. Romney said he paid "a lot of taxes every year" which sounds like Bill Clinton saying he didn't have sex with that woman. I pay a lot of taxes every year too, even if I don't even file a tax return. You have failed to provide even ONE instance of a Democrat or liberal denying reality.

31. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    261   8:43pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   xrpb11a says harry reid never stated romney never paid "federal" taxes, he stated romney never paid taxes..... Then Reid figured everyone would assume he was talking about the federal tax return because no idiot in the world would assume that he was talking about ALL TAXES including food, fuel, property, etc. Disingenuous. xrpb11a says so I have provided you with TWO instances of lies in these forums, and the day ain't over yet!! The problem is that no one was talking about lies and you've got a lunatic definition of lying anyway. We were talking about instances of people denying reality. How can you have a conversation if you don't remember what it's about?

32. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    262   8:51pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Well, since that was the subject matter Romney was commenting on, you have to assume Romney was talking about "federal income taxes" too. So, to summarize: * Reid accused Romney of "not paying any taxes for 10 years" * Romney stated he "paid taxes every year" * It is inferred that both were talking about "federal income taxes" * BGAMALL4 said: "Romney's silence is evidence" ( on whether he paid taxes or not the past 10 years) Therefore, BGAMALL was not stating a fact by stating Romney was 'silent' on the issue. Therefore, This episode counts as one example of people being non-factual on this forum, an example provided by me to you, per your request. Case Closed. iwog says xrpb11a says harry reid never stated romney never paid "federal" taxes, he stated romney never paid taxes..... Then Reid figured everyone would assume he was talking about the federal tax return because no idiot in the world would assume that he was talking about ALL TAXES including food, fuel, property, etc.

33. Honest Abe Follow Befriend (41) 91 threads 1,806 comments

    263   8:55pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   http://news.yahoo.com/obamas-hollywood-backers-outsourced-jobs-195217334--abc-news-politics.html More hypocricy from B.O. and his political cronies - what a surprise.

34. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    264   8:55pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   you got me there! heh heh heh iwog says xrpb11a says so I have provided you with TWO instances of lies in these forums, and the day ain't over yet!! The problem is that no one was talking about lies and you've got a lunatic definition of lying anyway. We were talking about instances of people denying reality. How can you have a conversation if you don't remember what it's about?

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    265   9:24pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79419.html More liberal hypocrisy, as usual.

36. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    266   9:25pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   xrpb11a says Well, since that was the subject matter Romney was commenting on, you have to assume Romney was talking about "federal income taxes" too. Normally that might be true, unless you were talking about someone extremely defensive, worried he might not become president, and embarrassed about the true story. In that case you might define taxes like Clinton defines sex. Conveniently.

37. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    267   9:29pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   that's a lot of assumptions to make your case.... iwog says unless you were talking about someone extremely defensive, worried he might not become president, and embarrassed about the true story.

38. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    268   9:32pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   xrpb11a says that's a lot of assumptions to make your case.... Contrare, you're the one making all the assumptions. I'm assuming Romney is human, and I'm assuming that Romney's tax returns would be devastating to his campaign since he's fought so hard to keep them private. Therefore it's not a stretch at all to think that Romney was doing some double-speak ESPECIALLY since he didn't (and wont) clarify anything other than this one simple generic phrase: "I paid a lot of taxes every year". So does everyone. That's not what people are asking.

39. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 761 threads 2,592 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    269   9:35pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   xrpb11a says I guess when you live in a city like Reno, and you are surrounded by prostitution, Prostitution is illegal in Reno's and Las Vegas's counties. And gambling is limited for most folks to a few dollars, unlike Wall Street and the Square Mile, where billions are bet, much of which are guaranteed deposits of patriotic Americans. And don't attack the messenger when Romney is the immoral one.

40. Honest Abe Follow Befriend (41) 91 threads 1,806 comments

    270   9:41pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/middle-class-guy/2012/aug/6/harry-reid-must-come-clean-if-s-possible/ More on "Dirty Harry" Reid.

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